If you knew you were going to miss most of the game then what was the point of the whole "don't lynch me/kill me" thing? Or is this just a pretend vacation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kommodus
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If you knew you were going to miss most of the game then what was the point of the whole "don't lynch me/kill me" thing? Or is this just a pretend vacation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kommodus
Bah, never mind. I can't begin to think why Kommodus would make himself unavailable after demanding to be left untouched for the whole game, but this is too crazy for even my conspiracy theories.
[SARCASM]Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Oh Sasaki, ya got me again! Can't pull a fast one over on you, can I? The whole "vacation" thing is just a game of make-believe.
First I'll imagine the long drive home to the imaginary little town where my parents live; then I'll pretend to greet my friends and family members and dream about their potential responses. (I hope no one sees me doing this, or they'll think I'm crazy.) After a self-induced mirage of a candlelight service at the little local church (also a mirage), I'll spend a quiet evening gazing at an empty space in the living room where a Christmas tree might have been - but isn't. The next morning I'll remove nonexistant wrapping paper from gifts which are, of course, a figment of my imagination. Later on, my fabricated brothers and I will head outside for a snowball fight (the snow, of course, doesn't really exist). :dizzy2:
[/SARCASM]
In all seriousness, I never said I would totally disappear. I only said my participation level would decrease. It takes a word-twister like you to turn that into "missing most of the game."
I find it odd that not one but two senators have votes against them, for no other reason that they've been unusually quiet and neither of them have had boo to say. DoH, Xiahou... you guys awake out there....??? :help:
So you admit it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kommodus
~:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
*edits earlier post to make things a little clearer*
lol, killed in character.
How fitting.
:balloon2:
unvote,Vote:GeneralHankerchief
for lurking
Er, did I miss something? What do you mean by this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
Well, note how the name Flavius Pacuvius comes up in the kill, which is the character I'm currently controlling in the WotS PBM (check my user title).Quote:
Originally Posted by Kommodus
That help ?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Kill
:balloon2:
:eyebrows: Vote Sasaki. This is not a joke. I repeat this is not a joke.
Erh, uhm, WHY? :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
Yeah, thanks. I missed that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
Indeed, why Csar? I'd like a bit more information, if you please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Have you concocted some amazing new numerical method or something? :book:
Yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kommodus
Well I believe it would be kinda hard to defend myself against such an argument. I don't know if anything I can actually say will change the mind of your gut and frankly I do not see a point in doing so either. At the moment this game resembles a lottery at best and well to be blunt, it really comes down to luck at the moment to lynch the rebels, so I suppose I am as good as any other suspect.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Right, just like I did in the two Godfather games when I was mafioso.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Look, in order to make this completely clear, Mafia will *not* be my #1 Org priority for a while. Probably not until after New Years'. I'll contribute when I can, but for the most part I *will* just lurk.
Edit: That answer satisfies me for now (to AggonyDuck).
Unvote: AggonyDuck
Vote: Sasaki
That's two experienced players he's attempted to lynch now.
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
I am still surprised why i am not dead.
He's just a good choice as any.:smash:Quote:
Originally Posted by Caius Flaminius
Unvote:Xiahou
Vote:Sasaki
Unvote: Sasaki
Vote: Caius Flaminius
For trying too hard to appear innocent
and bandwagoning.Quote:
I am still surprised why i am not dead.
:inquisitive:
I started to laugh a bit.i am innocent.
I am new on this type of games.Thats why i said that.I thoughout i was killed in the first round.Thats all.
This is really absurd.
See GH, ridiculous votes can lead to good things.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
unvote
tempted to vote Caius but he's new so I'm not sure.
Unvote:Sasaki
Vote:Xiahou.
Talk, Xiahou.
watcha doin caius?
Vote:Caius FlaminiusQuote:
Originally Posted by Caius Flaminius
The spellings of the kills match his posts.
Caius is not acting like a townie, accuse me of band wagoning but
Vote: Caius
Don't vote for lurking, WoM will handle that. Don't waste votes
Man, i have serious grammar horrors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Remember, English is not my first languaje.
Unvote:Xiahou
Vote:Caius
Hmm this is tricky.
1) Moody could have forgotten to spell check Caius's kill
2) Bad spelling could be mafia plant
3) Bad spelling could be Moody's own
The 2nd kill has improved spelling, but:
1) Caius's fellow mafia could have taken over writing
2) Sir moody could have spell checked
3) Mafia could have given up on ploy
I wonder which it is. I'm not sure why one person would be writing both the kills.
Also, in the 2nd kills, Prole is referred to as "he". Mistake or deliberate change up? Sigurd deliberately changed it in tbh2.
1)You dont believe me, right?
How I said, i have serious errors in grammar.
2)I dont know, I am not a slave.I am Caius Flaminius, Senator, not slave
3)It could be posible
4)I repeat.Im not a slave
5)Humans doesnt make the same error twice
6)?
Sir Moody was pretty clear that the spelling mistakes were his own. Caius might have had a 'slight' bandwagoning, but frankly, this early in the game, what else is there to do? Accuse somebody and make up a reason why or agree with the reason somebody else came up with. I think you're all barking up the wrong tree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Still no word from DoH or Xiahou. I'm not changing my vote until there is.
I'm going to hold off writing a Reenkaficsio post to avoid wrath from people. It's Christmas time and I want to be happy and merry.
Anyhoo...
I really got no one at this point.
I want to wait on Kommodus, as he is definitely still suspect number one, but lynching him can have bad consequences given his revision to his stance.
Also, Sasaki Kojiro and Sigurd must die by Round 5. That's just real. Sasaki is always suspicious alive (and sometimes dead), and Sigurd has always been mafia when he's lived that long.
As for now:
Vote: Reenk Roink (courteously)
:shrug:
Oh just abstain you pansy. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
When does the voting close? My main choices right now are between Sasaki and Caius... Then there's Kommodus, but with the shocking arrogance he's been displaying Im almost starting to believe his innocence. I'll vote shortly.
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
Any contact with Sir. Moody.No Pm.No msn.No email.No nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Vote: Caius
Maybe you're new, maybe you're mafia... either way, you're acting suspiciously. :shrug:
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
Senators:
If you want to kill me, kill me.
But I assure all, Im not a slave.How many times i have to explain you?
Tomorrow, think it.You are killing an Senator, not a slave.
Well, "Crazed Rabbit", Masy, Flavius, Prole and Ituralde, I will join they.Not dying for natural causes,i'm dying for a bunch of Senators and 2 slaves, who are here in this Senate.
I will not shut up.i will speak from the underworld.I keep all the names who voted for my injust execution.Remember me, in a couple of days there will be 2 more kills, and you wasted time in killing an one of you.
Bye, nasty world.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Prole was suicide. I'm pretty sure about that.
Sigurd is not in this game RR.
I have a hard time believing you. Weird but I've noticed that you've made a lot of mentionings of slave. Sometimes especially with newer players that seem to mention the role they have not on purpose of course..........................................Quote:
Senators:
If you want to kill me, kill me.
But I assure all, Im not a slave.How many times i have to explain you?
Tomorrow, think it.You are killing an Senator, not a slave.
Well, "Crazed Rabbit", Masy, Flavius, Prole and Ituralde, I will join they.Not dying for natural causes,i'm dying for a bunch of Senators and 2 slaves, who are here in this Senate.
I will not shut up.i will speak from the underworld.I keep all the names who voted for my injust execution.Remember me, in a couple of days there will be 2 more kills, and you wasted time in killing an one of you.
Bye, nasty world.
Err..not much interesting going on here.
vote: Caius
When I doubt, bandwagon ! :embarassed:
Prole was a suicide and so i wrote her into the Rebels kill - and i refered to her as a he because roman senators were men (no offence lady prole)
edit
oh and voting will close at around 12 noon gmt like always
Fellow Senator Xianhou,
From lurker to avid poster is always suspicious, certainly when some senators were letting there votes depend on the activity of fellow senators. Sure, you can say that you were merely trying to avoid being lynched but when just a explanation would suffice you suddenly and extremely changed your posting habit.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
Why did you suddenly start using a latin quotation? Is this a hint, something to laugh about when we don't catch you? You only started to use it after you saw the writings in the latrine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Moody
Vote Xianhou
Kinda busy at the moment and I don't feel like joining the Caius bandwagon, so:
Vote: Abstain
Voting Closed
"well my friends we have made up our minds Senator Caius Flaminus is hereby accused of murder and treason. Let us hope we have chosen correctly as the poor man is clearly half insane having thrown many accusations around and - in the end - voting for HIMSELF! because of this i have decided to show mercy, as Punishment Caius Flaminus will be striped of all lands, wealth and slaves, his hands and tongue will be cut off and he will be cast out onto the streets - if the plebs take pity on this poor fool then he will surivive as a pauper if not? well we will not think on that. Sleep well my Friends - Session adjourned."
Votes
Caius Flaminus = 6 (General Hankerchief, Sasaki Kojiro, Jimbob, Caius Flaminus, Xiahou, docbean)
DestoryerofHope = 1 (Don Corleone)
Xiahou= 1 (Peasant Phil)
Reenk Rionk = 1 (Reenk Rionk :juggle2:)
Abstain = 1 (AggonyDuck)
Alive
Sasaki Kojiro
Don Corleone
Kommodus
Destroyer of Hope
Csar
GeneralHankerchief
doc_bean
Craterus
Reenk Roink
Xiahou
Peasant Phill
AggonyDuck
JimBob
Dead
Crazed Rabbit
Masy
Kagemusha
Dutch_guy
Executed
Ituralde
Caius Flaminius
Suicide
Proletariat
Night Phase Begins - PM's Please
Aw crap, I missed the vote... I was trying to figure out who to vote for 'cause I thought Caius was innocent. Oh well. :embarassed:
as a little pre warning anyone who hasnt taken part at the end of the next voting session will be wrathed - you have been wanred
Seems all want to be WoM.
A paper fly in the air. That paper has written a phrase.
Senators, you had selected the wrong person.
Why did we lynch caius instead of kommodus
Yeah you voted for Caius.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Oh and I'm pretty sure you started that wagon ;)
vote: Kommodus
I say we've waited long enough.
(the kills are early today as everyone has sent them in and its the office party so forgive me but i wont be in any state to write kill around noon :inquisitive:)
Senator Paganus, often called Peasant Phill mockingly, was visiting the local brothel. He was a regular and was sent straight to his room to await his favorite slave girl. He lay on his stomach and waited. After a few minutes he became a little impatient and stood up and went into the adjoining room to ask what was taking so long - as he stepped through the door a leather cord was sliped around his neck and pulled taught. The last thing he saw was the words ' No inquira de iste neci' written on the walls in the slave girls blood...
As the Senators filed in for the days vote Senator Imperator Tela, known to his enemies as GeneralHankerchief, was feeling the weight of Rome on his shoulders. So far they had killed 2 of their own and the murders were still happening and the senate would soon be too small to fight back. He was so engrossed in his thoughts he didnt notice the needle fixed onto his chair. He sat down and quickly stood up in pain. Realising he was doomed he tried to accuse those he was sure were his killers but only froth came out of his mouth. he collapsed to the floor in a fit...
Csar Turned to the senators "two more of our friends are dead, this must end soon may you vote well and true"
Alive
Sasaki Kojiro
Don Corleone
Kommodus
Destroyer of Hope
Csar
doc_bean
Craterus
Reenk Roink
Xiahou
AggonyDuck
JimBob
Dead
Crazed Rabbit
Masy
Kagemusha
Dutch_guy
Peasant Phill
GeneralHankerchief
Executed
Ituralde
Caius Flaminius
Suicide
Proletariat
wow, was a bit too early there.
Still vote: Kommodus !
Yeah, why not? His post at the start was the most suspicious thing so far.
Vote: Kommodus
GH do it.Now he is dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
Damn the worst death yet (even worse than to die in a surreal popcorn explosion). I shall call this the blue balled strangulation case.
P.S. can somebody translate 'No inquira de iste neci'. I think that our killer is leaving clues, or at least some quotations about the deaths.
Er... you voted for Caius, buddy. :inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
No, you haven't.Quote:
Originally Posted by doc_bean
I still have some tinkering to do before I cast my vote, but hey, you want me dead, go ahead then. I'm more than happy to sit back and watch the mafia take this one. As for my defense, well... I've already explained it several times - no need to add anything.
I know it's getting late and we need to make good lynches (Kommodus still being our biggest lead), but I also think it plausible that our Praetor has investigated him by now. I don't know what to do. :huh:
Praetor, if you even have a collection of 4-5 innocents (by next round), come out and reveal. Give your PM's (as quotes) so we can compare them with Csar's.
Vote:Kommodus
Well, strange things are happening. Maybe it really is a little bit too early to lynch Kommodus. Either way the next lynching should be Sasaki Kojiro, preferably today, but there's already many 'supporters' for Kommodus.
Why Sasaki?
Well his posting style has really differed from previous games. He hardly discusses the scarce evidence we have, but instead throws himself on different people. His pledge for Kommodus has been strong since the beginning but why his sudden change of vote to Caius? He switched votes several times during that turn.
Maybe he's just acting differently because he wants to try out a new strategy, but his constant attacks on Kommodus nag at me, mabye he fears that Kommodus' methods may point to him.
All in all he's acting highly suspicious and a dead Sasaki should not hurt the town too much, while removing one of the major suspects.
If I were alive I would vote Sasaki.
Can we spell bandwagon?Quote:
Yeah, why not? His post at the start was the most suspicious thing so far.
Vote: Kommodus
Vote: Craterus
Wow, I died because I sat on a needle. :no:
I would like to think that... eh, nevermind.
Oh, and don't vote for Kommodus.
1) If you want to compare, look at Csar's game not Mafia V.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ituralde
2) I changed to Caius because no one was going for Kommodus and because I thought the kills might have been written by him. I still think we should have lynched Kommodus last round.
With 11 alive we have 3 lynches left. Mafia have a good chance at pulling it off due to inactivity. If there are 3 WoG's we will only have 2 lynches.
Kommodus only felt confident enough in his system to post an accusation after 560 posts and 5 lynches in Mafia V. We've had 220 posts and 2 lynches. Furthermore, he has admitted that his system has trouble differentiating between mafia and detectives/doctors, and there is an equal chance of his system picking one of them. In spite of this he insists that he is vital to our towns chance of success and must not be lynched (because he'll refuse to help out if he is). This is suspicious.
I also found his "Ituralde I thought you were innocent :sadface:" "caius I thought you were innocent :sadface" comments suspicious, it's like he knew they were innocent is trying to gain favor with them.
Wow, that seemed fast. If we still have a Praetor, it might be time for him to speak up if he can clear some of the living as innocent and narrow our slate of suspects.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
As to Kommodus, I agree that we've had that albatross hanging around our necks for too long, he may well be mafia- regardless, it's making it difficult to look at other suspects with all the attention he's drawn to himself. Personally, I was hoping the mafia would kill and thereby exonerate him- but not such luck.
Vote Kommodus; I have some other suspects in mind too, but I'll withhold my suspicions until the next vote so as not to aid the mafia.
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
BS Komm, we have 9 dead people already, I understand not wanting to get killed the first few rounds, but we're entering mid game now, I say everything goes, If you want to help the Senate then I applaud you, but if you're going to be upset over getting lynched halfway through the game you're just being whiney.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kommodus
On an unrelated note: can wa have a break on Xmass (24-26 december) ? I have a lot of family to visit and probably won't be able to participate, I recon a lot of people will have similar problems.
Or just being mafia. :inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by doc_bean
Good point, I'll be completely unavailable all day tomorrow with limited availability on Sun,Mon,Tues- although I should be able to get on long enough to read up/log a vote on those days.Quote:
On an unrelated note: can wa have a break on Xmass (24-26 december) ? I have a lot of family to visit and probably won't be able to participate, I recon a lot of people will have similar problems.
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
Hey guys, Peasant Phil has a good point here. Last round, he asked about the Latin and he wound up dead, with another Latin phrase next to him. Does anybody speak Latin? I don't. But I'd really like to know 3 things:Quote:
Originally Posted by Peasant Phill
1) What do these phrases mean?
2) What does the phrase in Xiahou's signature mean?
3) Is he being bold, or is he being framed? I think it's the former. I think he saw Kommodus's crazy statement at the beginning and viola, he figured be too obvious, and we'll never look at him. I don't think Kommodus is his partner. I think his partner is already dead.
I'm not saying whom and I'm not saying why, but I 'think' we've got one of the mafia already. I'm testing a theory and when I'm proven right or wrong, I'll let you guys know. But I think if we lynch Xiahou this round, we win. If we don't lynch Xiahou this round, don't be surprised to see me showing up dead with a Latin phrase next to my corpse next round.
Edit to add: Not to mention, Xiahou didn't say hardly anything the first 2 rounds. Now he's wading in, going for lynches without a lot of evidence.
Vote: Xiahou
Can anyone say wild goose chase? :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
There about like the bible quotes from Mafia V.
Funny that you say that. Somebody pointed the finger at Seamus, because of the bible quotes. As it turns out, he WAS one of the killers. And rather than blowing it off, why don't you explain all the Latin quotes. For all we know, Xiahou's signature means "You can't catch me, you fools".Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
Negative.
"And therefore I believe that Carthage must be destroyed".Translation of "Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam".
^^^ https://img178.imageshack.us/img178/...motarghbr6.gif
"For the rest, I am of the opinion that Carthage is to be destroyed."Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Otherwise argue In Carthage to be delendam-From his postQuote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
To swim to ask about that neci' -From the last kill
Damn. Okay, that doesn't sound all that helpful. Do you guys really think Kommodus would be that obvious to call that much attention to himself at the beginning of the game like that? It just seems way, way too obvious. I don't know what to think... :dizzy2: I'm seriously asking. I just can't sell myself on him being that dumb. Then again, crazy like a fox, right?
Unvote: Xiahou (sorry about that)
Vote: Abstain
Ok, I've been doing some thinking, and while it is plausible to take the Praetor's silence as a sign that he investigated an innocent Kommodus, it is equally plausible that he is dead.
Vote: Kommodus
Also, Sasaki must die next round. I'm surprised he's lived this long.
Looks like it's the end for me. So sad; I had almost finished the updates I had planned to my latest tool. Oh well, I'll try 'em out some other time.
FYI, you are wasting a lynch here. I'm not the one you want. But I understand your suspicion - so just like in GF2, no hard feelings. Doc_bean: I don't actually care much about being lynched. It only seemed that way; I just wanted to try a new strategy to see if it would keep me alive any longer than in recent history.
Anyway, good luck to the town - you'll need it... :skull:
Ugh, we're making a huge mistake here guys... :wall:
Yeah, there's an experienced mafioso here. But it's not Kommodus. It's Sasaki.
He's been dogging Kommodus since Round 1, using pretty much the same accusation each time. Compare this to previous Mafia games where he has consistently piled on the evidence, suffocating the poor person buried underneath. Here it's just "that first post was weird, lynch him."
Secondly...
This is the first time in a while he's referenced a red herring, as if he was trying to detract attention from himself. I tried it in GF2. IIRC, he didn't even mention the Bible passages in Mafia V. Heck, he even went after Banquo's Ghost because he tried to explain the Wanax reference! Is this characteristic of an innocent Sasaki? No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Third, he's been going after experienced players all game. Kommodus is obviously his number one target, but went after me (and I don't buy that it was bait) to sort of test the waters. When I defend myself and spin the blame towards Caius he quickly feigns indecisiveness, and then later bandwagons. This is the exact strategy I used to get him lynched in Godfather 2.
Vote Sasaki, people.
GH is right everyone. Though I already told you that. Lynch Sasaki.
Yeah, pretty much exactly like Csar's game which was also low activity.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I translated the quote that Xiahou's been posting to show Don that it wasn't "haha I did it". I haven't translated any of the kills quotes.Quote:
Secondly...
This is the first time in a while he's referenced a red herring, as if he was trying to detract attention from himself. I tried it in GF2. IIRC, he didn't even mention the Bible passages in Mafia V. Heck, he even went after Banquo's Ghost because he tried to explain the Wanax reference! Is this characteristic of an innocent Sasaki? No.
Kommodus is acting suspicious. If you want to claim that I'm going after him to lynch an experienced player, go ahead. But you have to then show that my accusations are contrived. You haven't done that, all you've said is "he's guilty". I have posted several arguments against Kommodus that you could have addressed specifically.Quote:
Third, he's been going after experienced players all game. Kommodus is obviously his number one target, but went after me (and I don't buy that it was bait) to sort of test the waters. When I defend myself and spin the blame towards Caius he quickly feigns indecisiveness, and then later bandwagons. This is the exact strategy I used to get him lynched in Godfather 2.
Vote Sasaki, people.
I can't let you live. ;)
You must be guilty :sweatdrop:Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
Oh kill him please. Vote: Sasaki he's so obviously guilty. Him and Kommodus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I wouldn't just discard Xiahou just yet.
- The quotation has a second meaning, namely that important things should be constantly repeated. What are you hinting at?
- Xiahou only started to use this quotation right after the rebels started to use quotations. Again why?
- Most of us respond the first chance we get when we're being accused. You however ignored my questions and accusations twice. For the third time why? Are you trying to let your little hint slip by unnoticed?