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Originally Posted by Gaius Scribonius Curio

Because M. Calpurnius Bibulus is not consul.

Vote: YLC

Mind telling us why you are claiming to be such Bibulus?

(Gaius Claudius Marcellus and Publius Cornelius Lentulus Crus are the two consuls...)

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You know this how? Wikipedia( my only source of roman knowledge) says he's a consul.

Di Immortales! We've been transported back in time ten years! :laugh4:

Edit: (OOC: I study Roman history. The year we are in is 49BC. Bibulus was consul in 59BC. As I stated above the two consuls of the year are C. Claudius Marcellus and P. Cornelius Lentulus Crus. I'm fairly sure a quick check of wiki will confirm this.)

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Originally Posted by Gaius Scribonius Curio

Di Immortales! We've been transported back in time ten years! :laugh4:

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Ah, now I see it. Unvote: Abstain, Vote: YLC

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Hello senatos and welcome to good morning rome!. we have a great show for ya today that i hope will provide a lot of food for thought. So,, lets get started shall we.

I would just like to say for starters that you shouldn't trust anything caser says. Why would you listen to a dirty populare? and on that note, i'm disappointed with the lack of senators taking the direct root to deal with their opponents. This is a revolution! go out and get youre hands dirty. We all know that no matter what happens their is no way the senate is coming out of this intact. Do you really want the populares calling the shots? Trying to work with them is a fools errand my fellow optimates. If you show weakness they'll kill you. And if you refuse to join me, i might haf ta kill you.

Secondly, caesar would have you beleive that Sasaki Kojiro is one of my men. Well, he is. That's right, that traitorous dog caesar is telling the truth for once. Sasaki Kojiro is one of my most trusted lieutenants. and the best part is that even though you all know this, you won't believe it. its hilarious! I'm telling you right now that he is guilty as can be. won't your faces be red once i'm in charge? Well, those that survive that is.

Any loyal optimates should find a sharp object and stick it through one of these men:

Shinseikhaan
everyone
Ignoramus
Chaotix
It would really help speed things along, we can only kill so many people before our arms get tired from stabbing.

Cheers, and tune in tommorrow same time, same staiton.

The suspect is definitely a native speaker, but his very careless.. Lots of typos.
His a good tactician, using lots of WIFOMs..

And I'm a Optimates, but I think I rather more peaceful way of lynching all extremest.

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Originally Posted by Beefy187

The suspect is definitely a native speaker, but his very careless.. Lots of typos.
His a good tactician, using lots of WIFOMs..

And I'm a Optimates, but I think I rather more peaceful way of lynching all extremest.

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:inquisitive: hhhhmmmmmmm (just kidding)

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Originally Posted by YLC

“It is not death that a man should fear, but he should fear never beginning to live.”
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus Augustus

Marcus Calpurnius Bibulus (Bibulus)
Senator
(Optimates Faction)

As the son-in-law of Marcus Porcius Cato Uticencis, there has never been any doubt as to which political party you have supported. You are a staunch Optimates, and your efforts on their behalf have been richly rewarded. Unfortunately, the main reward that you were given was to be Consul in 59 BC with none other than Gaius Julius Caesar himself! That impudent lout turned the Mob against you, and they attacked your bodyguards and dumped human excrement on you! To save your own skin, you wisely retreated to your home and fortified it against intruders. You did you best to thwart Caesar by constantly proclaiming bad omens, but your term has often been ridiculed as the Consulship of Julius and Caesar.

You have never forgiven Caesar and the Populares for these grave insults, and rightly so! Perhaps now would be a good time to get revenge for all of the humiliations they have heaped upon you… sometimes literally!

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Populares Faction Members, including Caesarians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

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In addition to the historical inaccuracies, YLC has also overlooked the fact that Tincow gave us a template for the Consul PM, which does not resemble this at all.

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Originally Posted by Tincow

CONSUL FULL NAME (NICKNAME)
Consul
(Optimates Faction)

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Caesarians and Pompeians. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

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(2) Survive and eliminate all Populares Faction Members, including Caesarians.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) Lictors (Protect) - As you are Consul in 49 BC, you have a group of lictors to guard you. You can send your lictors to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night. Alternatively, you can have your lictors remain at your side to protect you instead. Either way, you must submit a Night Action PM with your orders. Your lictors will not protect anyone, including yourself, if you fail to submit a Night Action PM.

Participation in Senator Groups:
(1) You count towards the success of Senator kill, protection, and investigation groups. If you join a group, you will not be able to use your lictors to protect anyone, including yourself.

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Notice how at the very top underneath the name it says 'Consul' rather than 'Senator'. Furthermore I would draw your attention to the fact that the Consuls ability is already outlined... in detail. I would suggest Senators that at the very least Marcus Calpurnius has been trapped in a lie before the Senate in session. This would make him guilty of perjury, even were we not in the midst of a crisis. As it is sadly I must claim that his motives were treasonous, and thereby advocate his proscription. I urge all Senators to vote with me on this issue. LG can be targetted tomorrow, and in any case has had no chance to speak in his defence. Marcus Calpurnius (YLC) has made a total mess of his own defence and is more likely to be Pompeian than anything else.

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Originally Posted by Cultured Drizzt fan

:inquisitive: hhhhmmmmmmm (just kidding)

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Well I'm not a native speaker, so let me off the hook :laugh4:

The fact he may be lying does not make him guilty and he did have protection last night. Do not jump to a hasty judgments.

But someone who is caught in a lie is a better proscription than someone whose falsity is conjectured, and has had no oppurtunity to speak in their defence.

(OOC: I'd prefer to see YLC lynched than LG, at least if there are a few more votes on him it gives those who haven't voted another viable choice.)

What is the case against LG?

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Originally Posted by Caius

What is the case against LG?

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Sasaki says we should lynch him.

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Originally Posted by Gaius Scribonius Curio

But someone who is caught in a lie is a better proscription than someone whose falsity is conjectured, and has had no oppurtunity to speak in their defence.

(OOC: I'd prefer to see YLC lynched than LG, at least if there are a few more votes on him it gives those who haven't voted another viable choice.)

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*Smacks, hard*

I am a former Consul, get it through your head! Read again! I made it clear! How much thicker can you be?

This is very, very odd. I've observed YLC to have guards on multiple occasions, so I assumed he must have been a Consul or Praetor. Later he confirmed it to me, and we saw it as well in the write-ups... if YLC is not a Consul, he is not a Praetor, either- GH was one and I know the other. That means he must be a different role entirely. Whether or not he is mafia...

Unvote: LG

I'm not going to vote for him yet, because I'm unsure of what's going on. But I may change my mind.

Vote: Abstain

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Originally Posted by YLC

*Smacks, hard*

I am a former Consul, get it through your head! Read again! I made it clear! How much thicker can you be?

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If you're a former consul, why would you have the role of consul in this game. You would no longer hold the office.

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Originally Posted by Tratorix

If you're a former consul, why would you have the role of consul in this game. You would no longer hold the office.

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*sighs* Precisely. Think of me as a double, a stand in - a normal senator who can survive a night attack, thanks to the fact as a former Consul, I was able to accumulate enough wealth to have a fortress like villa.

dude you basically signed your own death warrant.....

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Originally Posted by YLC

*sighs* Precisely. Think of me as a double, a stand in - a normal senator who can survive a night attack, thanks to the fact as a former Consul, I was able to accumulate enough wealth to have a fortress like villa.

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Oh, so your just claiming a consul role. Lying is frowned upon in these games.

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Originally Posted by Tratorix

Oh, so your just claiming a consul role. Lying is frowned upon in these games.

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:laugh4::laugh4:

YLC's claim seems to have been made out of boredom more than having a specific motive behind it.

LG, however was lying for more sinister reasons. And is avoiding responding here.

The only who perceive a benefit from this useless discussion is the ones who are murdering every night our fellow senators. I'd like to hear more about LG. There is not a lot of info, but Sasaki is respalded by Pompey. Pompey said that Ichigo was right, that he was crazy and Sasaki had evidence. Yet this says nothing.

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Originally Posted by YLC

:laugh4::laugh4:

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OK correction, it is frowned upon IF YOU GET CAUGHT

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

YLC's claim seems to have been made out of boredom more than having a specific motive behind it.

LG, however was lying for more sinister reasons. And is avoiding responding here.

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LG also hasn't posted in Fillet Royale, which makes me think he's busy in RL. I'd rather hear from him before lynching him based on your suspicions. Even if YLC is telling the truth, he lied about being a power role for no real reason and has threatened that we will regret it if we try to lynch him. We don't need him around.

I'm still finding it funny that people think I am an idiot, must run in mafia games where the mafia are all completely lost on trying to remain undercover - seriously, if the Consul pm is open to the public, why would I not use that from my previous PM and forge it if I was mafia? Makes infinitely more sense.

Seriously, give me a slice of intelligence, credit it me with some neural activity.

You can vig YLC if you want to. "we don't need him around" isn't a reason for lynch.

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Originally Posted by Tratorix

LG also hasn't posted in Fillet Royale, which makes me think he's busy in RL. I'd rather hear from him before lynching him based on your suspicions. Even if YLC is telling the truth, he lied about being a power role for no real reason and has threatened that we will regret it if we try to lynch him. We don't need him around.

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*facepalm* I am a power role, infact most people are I believe - I am simply bulletproof.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

You can vig YLC if you want to. "we don't need him around" isn't a reason for lynch.

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I think the problem is that he cant be Vigilanted, he will just be defended from it.

Whatever, I'm done discussing this. My vote stays where it is, everyone else can do what they think is best.

Maybe we should just leave the mafia to kill off YLC themselves, instead of doing their dirty work for them. That is what he wants, if I recall correctly.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

You can vig YLC if you want to. "we don't need him around" isn't a reason for lynch.

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He has a point.

Does anyone have an updated tally?