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Bush Senior is going to vote for Clinton, apparently.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...uck-his-party/
It's remarkable, but does anybody think it is surprising?
Knowing Trump he will probably tweet that Bush senior is a loser within the next three hours or so.
Who is Jimmy Carter voting for?
This just affirms my opinion that 41 was the best president of my lifetime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kralizec
but not of mine, youngling. Still, 41 was an honorable sort, and better than many to have held that office.Quote:
Originally Posted by drone
Do tell, please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
I am old enough* that I would pick Ronnie over GHWB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarmatian
* = The first POTUS I was alive for was LBJ (or JFK if you go by Catholic definition). Unlike most on this site, I was old enough to vote for Reagan against Mondale.
You young whipper snapper! I liked Ike when I was born (though I have no memory of him).Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
I personally would further qualify your choice by specifying "first term" Ronnie. I was, and still am, a huge GHWB fan, though I wished his presidency was more noteworthy than it was.
Nixon (term #1) was my first, but really any of the LBJ/Nixon/Ford/Carter set aren't going to win popularity contests.
Maybe it was my youth at the time, but I always got the impression 41 was there to serve.
LBJ and Nixon aren't so much unpopular as disappointing. They were the Icarus decade of the American executive.Quote:
the LBJ/Nixon/Ford/Carter set aren't going to win popularity contests.
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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
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Originally Posted by Gregoshi
I remember talking to Abe L. in my high school days...
Is everyone ready for tonight's cage match?
Are any of the betting houses taking bets on this thing?
What are the chances that Holt blows a bolt and bashes their heads together repeatedly until neither can continue campaigning?
heading into the debate chances are roughly 50/50:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...-first-debate/
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Enjoy the debate
Well, the Donald certainly made himself look like a prick throughout the debate.
Didn't expect anything good from him I hope?Quote:
Originally Posted by Legs
Was fun to watch. Trump strongest asset is that he isn't a very good debater. Hillary will never be likable she's too fake.
She's too fake!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Please watch the video posted by edyzmedieval :p
How can you not really see her for what she is, she's dangerous, always trust your intuition.
He does trust his intuition. He doesn't trust yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
That's at much I get
CNN instant polls on winner of first debate:
2008
Obama 51%
McCain 38%
2016 (tonight)
Clinton 62%
Trump 27%
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WozEaFcmBhQ
Hardly surprising, she's much better at this. Clinton is much more intelligent (and fake) that much is obvious.
So Trump's USP is that he's genuinely stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
At least he isn't anyone's poodle. I'd give the man a chance if I was American. Better for us Eurpeans as well because he isn't all that interested in global politics. A president is only as powerfull as the strings attached and America is starting to look like a country of incestious political dynasties. Should have bolded ties in dynastiesQuote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
Better someone who ruins the country with genuinely stupid intentions than someone who wants to fix the actual problems but has rehearsed the correct answers to the important questions. :clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/eve...ate-1787121521
No one thinks he won except horserace journalists. Worst debate performance I've ever seen, and short of calling Hillary the B or C word or body slamming her, the worst that could possibly be given.