POTUS Election thread

[Sarmatian]

Since Americans like their acronyms, I decided to use one in thread title to fit in better. Also, imagine I'm chewing gum while I'm writing this.

You Yanks have become lazy. Mrs. C. has declared that she will run for president in 2016 and nary a peep from you. Get back in shape.

What does this mean, who'll be the president, is Clinton doing it only to get back at here husband by hiring a hot male assistant if she wins and so on...

[rvg]

Bush 2016.

[CrossLOPER]

Since Americans like their acronyms, I decided to use one in thread title to fit in better. Also, imagine I'm chewing gum while I'm writing this.

You Yanks have become lazy. Mrs. C. has declared that she will run for president in 2016 and nary a peep from you. Get back in shape.

What does this mean, who'll be the president, is Clinton doing it only to get back at here husband by hiring a hot male assistant if she wins and so on...

From where I am, some of her supporters think that she is just a bud from Obama's tenure. Personally, I think most of the leaders are total tripe, but I suppose you have to choose the best from the worst.

Geriatrics vs. numbskulls. Go.

[Crandar]

Why does Hillary's old age matter so much? Mithradates was killing Romans in his late sixties...

[Hooahguy]

Hey, we always got Waka Flocka Flame.

[drone]

You Yanks have become lazy. Mrs. C. has declared that she will run for president in 2016 and nary a peep from you. Get back in shape.

We aren't lazy, we are just hoping that if we ignore them it will go away. 18 months of this crap...

[CrossLOPER]

Why does Hillary's old age matter so much? Mithradates was killing Romans in his late sixties...

She is actually one of the younger contenders.

[Kralizec]

It's pretty telling that a number of Republicans who might run in 2016 felt it necessary to slam Clinton immediately after she announced her candidacy.

When she lost the Democratic primary in 2008 I thought that we had all witnessed the end of her political career. It seems to me Obama did her an immense favor in making her the secretary of state (allthough he presumably would have had political motives to do so, instead of / in addition to the kindness of his heart)

[rvg]

She is actually one of the younger contenders.

If by "younger" you mean "one of the oldest", then yes, she's one of the "younger" ones.

[Kadagar_AV]

Soooo... let me see if I got this right...

You USAnian guys, out of a population of about 320 MILLION people... Are considering whether Clinton or Bush is what you should put your life and energy into?

Don't get me wrong, I love flaming the US of A. But seriously this feels like pumping a shotgun to a already dead animal...

Very, very, very dead.

[Greyblades]

Jeb might not be nearly as bad as his brother but america's not going to risk burning itself thrice. Hillary is worse than her husband but america is going to jump on her in the hope of reignighting her husband's spark.

What matters in a post recession economy, I suppose, is economic performance and the Bush name is long spoiled by dubya's mess. Clinton is still somewhat fresh from Bill's surplus so I think Hillary is going to win and I think hillary is likely to be another obama. She'll be technically good, maybe even great for the country's finances, but she's not going to live up to liberal voters hopes.

So, Ladies and Gentlmen, liberals and conservatives, prepare for dissapointment.

[Kadagar_AV]

prepare for dissapointment.

Is the topic still about the US of A?

If so there is absolutely no need to prepare for disappointment. After the WMD in Iraq and OBL in Afghanistan.

Get this, the world at large is disappointed in you regardless, and for good reasons.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Nothing has happened yet. Hillary announcing is not news at all. I was hoping I could get 4 more months of peace before this mess started.

[Papewaio]

So which number Clinton will she be in the family dynasty?

And if Jeb runs which one will he be fore the Bush dynasty?

[Sarmatian]

Nothing has happened yet. Hillary announcing is not news at all. I was hoping I could get 4 more months of peace before this mess started.

Could have been worse. Imagine you're from Iowa.


Who here thinks it will be down to a Bush vs. Clinton showdown?

[Hooahguy]

Who here thinks it will be down to a Bush vs. Clinton showdown?

Im actually thinking that the GOP are going to go with Rubio. While he's on his knees for the hard right just like the rest of the candidates, there is some glimmer of hope that hes not like all the rest, like when he introduced immigration reform (which he promptly retracted because the hard right started throwing tomatoes). Hes also younger I think then the rest, though Cruz is only a year older. But then again, Cruz does look much older than he actually is, because from my experience, being possessed tends to age you by another 10-15 years.

[HopAlongBunny]

She shall save us all!

http://readyforwarren.com/

[Hooahguy]

She shall save us all!

http://readyforwarren.com/

...despite her saying repeatedly that she won't. And its probably a good thing too, she didnt win her home state last election by a very large margin, and she probably does the most good in congress anyways.

[HopAlongBunny]

... she probably does the most good in congress anyways.

Agreed; I don't think she would like to run against Clinton and expose the serious divisions in the Democratic party.
It is nice to hear that progressive voice in American politics again though :)

[Hooahguy]

It is nice to hear that progressive voice in American politics again though :)

Yup, her and Bernie Sanders are a welcome addition! There are so few members of congress I dont view with disdain nowadays, having a few people who give me even a sliver of hope is always good.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Could have been worse. Imagine you're from Iowa.


Who here thinks it will be down to a Bush vs. Clinton showdown?

I think it's depressingly likely.

[Montmorency]

I was going to make a crack about getting a Roosevelt into the running, but it appears we're down to just a couple of those...

[Gilrandir]

I was going to make a crack about getting a Roosevelt into the running

Eleanor?

[Montmorency]

Eleanor?

She daid, unless you mean the 88-year-old relative.

At that point, why not just call back Jimmy Carter for a do-over.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

A deeply religious Democrat?

Careful, you'll upset the 30-something class of current politicians and talking heads.

[Fisherking]

It is a shame the rabbit didn't get him.

[Gilrandir]

She daid, unless you mean the 88-year-old relative.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8A62AK20121107
Way to go!

[Seamus Fermanagh]

One of the under-spoken things about US politics is the existence of a quasi-aristocracy. It is not completely exclusive and in no way as "insular" as the aristocracies of Europe, but in politics the age of your money does seem to make a difference....

For example, were Jeb to be elected, he would be the 9th Mayflower family descendent to hold the Presidency -- out of 44 persons who will have held the office as of January 2017 (Yes, I am aware that Obama is the 44th POTUS, but trivia buffs will remember that Cleveland served in two separate presidencies in the late 1800s).

So, if you tend to see familiar names cropping up, it may be less surprising than one might hope.

[HopAlongBunny]

Quick detour to the influence of money in the latest POTUS test.
Is Jeb simply keeping his powder dry in order to better direct the PAC's lending him support?:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...he_future.html

Overall, since Citizens United has the influence of wealth increased?:

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dru...ampaign-giving

hmmm...

[Hooahguy]

So Bernie Sanders will be throwing his hat into the ring. Should be interesting. Most likely wont win the nomination, but at least he will challenge Hillary.