If khaan is scum then I am having officially the worst game of my life. I don't even want to be that wrong, but what are my options here? To vote my town reads?
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If khaan is scum then I am having officially the worst game of my life. I don't even want to be that wrong, but what are my options here? To vote my town reads?
Why don't you talk your town reads through why you lynched Dp101.
Case in point:Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Lol this.Quote:
Originally Posted by novice
Lynch votes
3 votes: GeneralHankerchief (BSmith, novice, Montmorency)
2 votes: atheotes (Askthepizzaguy, Renata)
1 votes: Askthepizzaguy (Al Sipsclar)
1 votes: Al Sipsclair (seireikhaan)
1 votes: Montmorency (El Barto)
1 votes: Aetheotes (Newyn)
Voting history:Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
I've just ISO'd atheotes, and damn, but there is nothing there.
Below some interactions with Monty from day one, since those need explained in a Monty/atheotes w/w world.
Bottom post is the only one that pings at all, and it's for the shallowest of reasons. Strategy or no strategy, I don't know I can keep my vote here.
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This is not a joke?Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
By the way, regarding Pizza's vig claim in a roundabout way:
I do have a bulletproof vest. Single use, have to guess properly when to use it. I didn't have it at start of game, and my assumption was a power role had given it to me. (That may have been an incorrect assumption. I'm asking.) If a power role gave Pizza the vig power similarly, then using the vig says nothing about Pizza. If the vig power was in the game from the start like a conventional power, then barring CC today the only person who could have had it other than him is Stork, who died last night. (I don't see mafia killing Zack.) Stork, unfortunately, went silent after the GH thing, and I don't know what his reads were.
But Pizza, I'm not liking the atheotes idea right now.
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Originally Posted by novice
Re: dp101, read these posts and I'll answer follow-up questions you may have.
Go to this post: 210
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053725705
Read through 225.
Picks up again 242.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053725747
Continues on there for a little bit.
Al Sipsclar, in any universe where atheotes is town.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
If you're looking to resolve khaan first, I have seen nothing indicating he's scum. I don't think we lynch there.
But if you're worried about blame or the game going to slop if we lynch there and he's lynched and he's town, I'm more than sure I'm going to get the lions share of the blame. And if the game ends sooner, so be it. We're just guessing.
I didn't believe in your end of that discussion, Pizza. It read to me like you just digging up a plausible reason for voting Dp, which the poor puppy obviously couldn't refute.
Of course he's looking for reasons to town read you, that's how he operates, by looking for townies to follow. And he never posts anything without qualifying it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
This was where you left it, without every letting us know if it did make sense or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
I laid out the reasons, but it's two posts because the others are basically a null set. It's also buried and garnered no interest from anyone but khaan and Al himself.
You know how easy it is to push Dp into a web of contradictions, I did it to him in our first game here, where both he and I were town. So when the first thing you did in this game was push Dp, I was not impressed.
That was my response to his question about why I was questioning his motives. I had already decided I didn't trust them.Quote:
Originally Posted by novice
So you claim a 1-shot vig. Way to up the ante.
if atheotes is town, and you and Renata are town, and Khaan is town, and let's add novice for good measure, then that leaves Al-Monty-Barto-BSmith-Newyn, and I doubt you would consider BSmith in light of the other targets.Quote:
Al Sipsclar, in any universe where atheotes is town.
Your claim succeeds in making me more hesitant to lynch you, but now there is no way I'm backing down from Khaan. One way or another you're protecting him and if both you and Khaan survive through tomorrow it's game over. You'll be shielded by the claim, and Khaan's moment will have passed. You're ranging to lynch me, and all that atheotes-Barto-Al Sipsclar stuff is just filler or primer to seal the deal tomorrow.
Not quite sure what this is in response to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Anyway I have to run. To be continued.
After his rampant paranoia about me following 2 scum games vanished without a trace, I wasn't. It looked like a poor attempt at pocketing.Quote:
Originally Posted by novice
If you're suspecting me and you ask me no questions that I can answer, I can't help you correct your mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by novice
This was directed at Renata / anyone else hesitant to lynch atheotes and has a desire to lynch khaan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Pizza did you have the vig power from start of game, or did you get it later?
I had it from the start of play. Didn't use it night 1, because that's too early to shoot a single shot. Gotta narrow things down a bit more than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
Didn't want to wait until N3 because I could have been dead by then.
Did you breadcrumb the ability?
I feel like I'm wasting my time here. I'm being asked to talk about dead townies, and asked to wait until tomorrow to even discuss my suspects. Renata may be the only person who actually looked and gave me her opinion. The alternative option I put forward, as I mentioned, gained no attention or discussion or votes outside of the guy who could get lynched today. I'll vote there but not many other people have said they'll go there, nor have they looked into Al. And as for khaan, I'm being told this is a good vote and it's not clear to me why this is. And, the people pushing khaan, have made no real effort to convince me that khaan is even the right choice.
I'm ready to wash my hands of this round. You want me to vote for Al, that's my vote. You want me to stay on atheotes, that's my vote. I've been here for five hours, ready to call it a night.
No, I did not.Quote:
Originally Posted by novice
If you have one vig shot, there's no need to do so. The proof is in the shot itself.
My moment will have passed? How so? What kind of town logic is this anyways? Look, I can get Renata jumping my bones(:heart:), because yes, my big elaborate post probably wasn't my best work, but guess what, that's not normally my schtick and I didn't exactly have a ton of time left in the round, so I had to run with my gut at points. But what argument is *this*? "I have to lynch khaan now, just in case he's mafia"? How does me not being lynched today somehow prevent my lynch tomorrow? Heck, that's one of the things I've historically been best at - getting the threat of lynch for a few rounds before people tire of me and throw me into the volcano later in the game. I don't get this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
For what it's worth, Stork's latest comment on Zack was a positive one. I don't see him being the vig and Pizza just taking the credit. Don't mind me, working through my issues now. Scum vig? Not too likely, I don't think.
I don't know. My head hurts.
Khan's voting Al Sips. I think that makes a more appropriate counterwagon than atheotes right now.
Unvote: atheotes
Vote: Al sipsclar
If we can get the vote movement that way, otherwise I go back.
Because if you don't lynch today, there will be no more impetus behind the case aside from me, and Pizza will dominate the day - the day being D4 being LYLO if scum isn't lynched today. If you are scum and you don't swing today, the game is effectively over.Quote:
Originally Posted by seireikhaan
There is no scenario in which I can lynch you tomorrow, period.
If you need my vote to lynch a scum you'll have to decide your final vote relatively early in the round. These rounds end well after I go to sleep and then to school, in Norwegian time.
Otherwise I can just faff about and be a lone voter. I can't help you cfd someone.
How on earth is there suddenly no impetus for it? Consider:Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Town lynches someone else. Most likely, I will have to vote for said person because of self-preservation. If they are mafia, yay, we're not lylo, high fives etc. If they are town, suddenly I am sitting here being the guy who self preservation voted twice and got two townies lynched. On top of the fact that there is consistently multiple votes onto me ever phase. How on earth, again, do you lose the impetus to lynch me?
And, just another thing to toss out:
Consider, for a moment, if I am *not* scum. Wild theory, I know. I know that you want to pair atheotes with me or something to that effect if I am. But what if I'm not? Suddenly you're back here at LYLO, only instead of having your clear scum target, you have.... what? You already seem to think a town me implies a town atheotes.
Rather silly analysis, by the way. This is some social commentary on me generally being a lurker in most games, and anyone who takes it as "clearing" is a silly goose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Al Sipsclar