Swords and Sorcery Mafia Without the Swords [Concluded]

And I especially would not clear a villager I was pushing yesterday. That's just silly.

I think this is the accurate tally as of #931:

Sooh - Atheotes, Snerk, Lewwyn, Montmorency, Zack (5)
Visor - Renata, Winston, GH, Choxorn (4)
Atheotes - Csargo (1)
Lewwyn - Visor (1)

I really do not think that Zack is the type of player to try this kind of ploy as mafia this early in the game.

We established earlier that, shenanigans aside, Atheotes and Sooh are caught in what appears to be an inconsistency with the facts. However, Visorslash has just vanished - he hasn't posted at all in the last 16 hours and barely posted in the preceding 24 hours, which doesn't fit Visor's MO at all.

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Originally Posted by kcaZ

Disagree. If two partners are dead this early, you need to be thinking of how to get to the endgame, and claiming a peek is not the way to do that. People expect you to die and will get suspicious when you don't.

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I'm not sure I expect the peekers to die before others. Might not be top priorities for scum seeing as it seems spells in general are a one-off in terms of usage this game.

It's also been a fairly slow day - 500 posts in D1, 114 in N1 and 320 in D2 so far, with 100 mins or so to go.

Unfortunately, I'm extremely torn on for whom to vote, but Visor just up and disappearing like that is most strange. Vote: Visorslash.

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Originally Posted by Arakhor

We established earlier that, shenanigans aside, Atheotes and Sooh are caught in what appears to be an inconsistency with the facts. However, Visorslash has just vanished - he hasn't posted at all in the last 16 hours and barely posted in the preceding 24 hours, which doesn't fit Visor's MO at all.

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Occam's razor: Sooh, Atheotes or Visor for scum.

Sooh not voting at all, despite the explicit warnings against it, is hardly helping her case, but Visor being totally absent is just bizarre.

I'm too tired to do any real work today, am probably just goign to leave my vote where it is and hope for the best.

Can confirm Renata.

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Originally Posted by Lewwyn

Sooh is the one I've been most suspicious of mostly because of the way there hasn't been any sort of scumhunting. Actively disengaging and not saying anything that can be nailed down or represent a very clear point of view. It's basic scum. Even the role claim is exactly this. I defended someone, you figure out who I defended. Basically allows for Sooh to wait for the rest of the role claims and later pick the one that causes the least conflict.

Visor has terrible and arbitrary reads early in the day, discounting things for whatever reason. And honestly it feels pretty scummy, I'm totally willing to lynch him, but I also think he's at least present something concrete whereas Sooh is not.

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I understand your reasons, though it's a shame me being sick should determine how I end up this game, but I guess we all have an off game.

I'm going to self-pres this time.

Vote: Visor

It's now 5-6 against Visor, who if he's going to do anything, needs to vote for Sooh if he wants to save himself. With an odd number of players, Csargo could also end up being the tiebreaker.

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Originally Posted by Arakhor

It's also been a fairly slow day - 500 posts in D1, 114 in N1 and 320 in D2 so far, with 100 mins or so to go.

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If you ask me content output today has been fine. 300ish posts in a phase is usually pretty neat if I am to digest it.

Up to date tally. I want to double check it, but I think it's accurate. If that's not where your vote is please post something and indicate where you changed it last.

Sooh – 6 (Atheotes, Snerk, Lewwyn, Montmorency, Csargo, Kcaz)
Visor – 5 (Renata, Winston Hughes, Choxorn, Arakhor, Sooh)
Lewwyn – 1 (Visor)
Atheotes – 1 (GHC)

Voting History (messy, I'm short on time at the moment)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Arakhor Visor 936
Atheotes Sooh 773
Choxorn Visor 900
Csargo Sooh 908
GeneralHankerchief Visor 833 Unvote 912 Atheotes
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Kcaz Sooh 913
Lewwyn Sooh 903
Montmorency Atheotes 616 Unvote 844 Sooh 907
Renata Visor 629
Snerk Sooh 777
Sooh Visor 940
Visor Lewwyn 768
Winston Hughes Visor 634

Day two ends in

Jabbz, I voted for Visor here:

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

I really think it's just Visor today.

Vote: Visor

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FWIW, I'm keeping my vote on Visor. Kind of wish he was around for EoD but I feel like he's been objectively the scummiest player here by a decent margin.

EDITED AT GM REQUEST PER POST #950

cfd on Montmorency?

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Originally Posted by Winston Hughes

cfd on Montmorency?

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It gave us so much great info yesterday, why not? :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

In case you read my atheotes thing as a vote change,

Vote: Visor

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Got it, put your vote on Csargo's line. Probably would have caught it going back and verifying every vote, but thank you.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Jabbz, I voted for Visor here:



FWIW, I'm keeping my vote on Visor. Kind of wish he was around for EoD but I feel like he's been objectively the scummiest player here by a decent margin.

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I think Sooh and Visor are both pretty likely wolves.

GHC for clarity in terms of voting order, you have my permission (and request) to edit post #945 to remove your vote. Post instead Edited at GM request per (this post number)

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Originally Posted by kcaZ

I think Sooh and Visor are both pretty likely wolves.

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Yeah.

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Originally Posted by kcaZ

I think Sooh and Visor are both pretty likely wolves.

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Do you think they just gave up?

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Originally Posted by Snerk

Occam's razor: Sooh, Atheotes or Visor for scum.

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My thoughts exactly. Visor most likely, then Sooh, Atheotes a distant third. I'll be a bit surprised if there's more than one townie in that group and extremely surprised if all three of them are town.

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Originally Posted by Arakhor

It's now 5-6 against Visor, who if he's going to do anything, needs to vote for Sooh if he wants to save himself. With an odd number of players, Csargo could also end up being the tiebreaker.

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I'm not GH sorry. No shenanigans from me.

Corrected vote tally.

Visor -- 6(Renata, WInston Hughes, GHC, Choxorn, Arakhor, Sooh)
Sooh -- 5(Atheotes, Snerk, Lewwyn, Montmorency, Kcaz)
Lewwyn -- 1(Visor)
Atheotes -- 1(Csargo)

Voting History (still messy)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Arakhor Visor 936
Atheotes Sooh 773
Choxorn Visor 900
Csargo Sooh 908 Unvote 912 Atheotes 912
GeneralHankerchief Visor 833
Kcaz Sooh 913
Lewwyn Sooh 903
Montmorency Atheotes 616 Unvote 844 Sooh 907
Renata Visor 629
Snerk Sooh 777
Sooh Visor 940
Visor Lewwyn 768
Winston Hughes Visor 634

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You don't need to unvote, and its messing with my system so please stop :P

If it turns out to be Visor and Sooh as the other scum, this will have been a dramatically one-sided game.

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Originally Posted by Arakhor

If it turns out to be Visor and Sooh as the other scum, this will have been a dramatically one-sided game.

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Part of me wants to say it's not that easy, but I do agree that all three of Visor, Sooh, and atheotes need to flip sooner rather than later.

I'm sure it can't be that easy, but none of them have put in a sterling performance today, even if there were the odd mitigating circumstance or two.

Time. No posting until resolution is complete.