Bye bye, Britain

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

Fragony stated that "The Netherlands is the largest, but the US is larger"... Conflicting terms, and I'm being a nazi ~;)

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Largest within the European Union.
United States (who is not part of the European Union) is larger.

Easily explained.

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Originally Posted by Greyblades

*sigh* we really are a vestigial nation, we cant even stay the topic of a thread for 100 posts.

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So write down that unwritten constitution, group up the counties into a few territories, downgrade the royals to rich celebs, and come in as states 51 through 54. You even start off with a meaningful voting block in the Senate. What's not to love?

And have American News networks pollute British airwaves? I'd sooner we become part of France, than suffer your torrents of political advertising.

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Originally Posted by Fragony

Haven't read it yet. But europhiles are screaming the usual nonense, it just came out so they haven't read it either. But the usual fearmonging 'WE NEED TEH EUROPEAN MARKUT!!!'. Yeah true, but it's a falafy, we don't need the Brussels to trade with EUrope. Rhetorical trick. Tell me, how are you going to build stuff if you will suffer a 30/40% access to materials? The Netherlands is also the biggest food exporternin the world, second only to the US (last year's numbers, hear France is now #2). If you expand your harbours the waterways will have to be deeper. Who are you going to call for that? Exactly, us. Waste of money no. As TA pointed out earlier, it will take decades before you can compete with us, and it will cost billions and billions (TA didn't say the latter but it's pretty obvious it will)

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Frags, Good idea but it is too late. You have been had. As exemplary vassal state for the Germans. We Finns bought your entire Armour fleet of Leopard 2A6 last month, with much of your AT missiles..so you can witness the Kraut Panzers roll in the Amsterdam any day now. Soon you can till the fields and work the docks as much as you like without bothering with nonsense like politics.. ~;)

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Originally Posted by Fragony

second only to, no contradiction, that means we are second.

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Yes, and since you're the second largest, you're not the largest one, are you? ~;)

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Originally Posted by Kagemusha

Frags, Good idea but it is too late. You have been had. As exemplary vassal state for the Germans. We Finns bought your entire Armour fleet of Leopard 2A6 last month, with much of your AT missiles..so you can witness the Kraut Panzers roll in the Amsterdam any day now. Soon you can till the fields and work the docks as much as you like without bothering with nonsense like politics.. ~;)

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You mean Finland will invade the Netherlands with the Kraut Panzers Finland just bought from the Netherlands? That's clever, but Germany won't let this happen. ~;)

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Originally Posted by Husar

You mean Finland will invade the Netherlands with the Kraut Panzers Finland just bought from the Netherlands? That's clever, but Germany won't let this happen. ~;)

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There goes another finely tuned plan down the toilet...Hmmmpphh.Maybe our time will come when the Norse disband their army as Horetore suggests...:quiet:

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Originally Posted by Kagemusha

There goes another finely tuned plan down the toilet...Hmmmpphh.Maybe our time will come when the Norse disband their army as Horetore suggests...:quiet:

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You live in Finland and aspire to conquer Norway? Clearly it is way too cold up there for positive thinking.

Try conquering Cuba or Puerto Rico or someplace with a decent beach and drinking tradition that involves teeny umbrellas.

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

You live in Finland and aspire to conquer Norway? Clearly it is way too cold up there for positive thinking.

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It's revenge for that time when Horetore and his boys invaded Finland.

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

You live in Finland and aspire to conquer Norway? Clearly it is way too cold up there for positive thinking.

Try conquering Cuba or Puerto Rico or someplace with a decent beach and drinking tradition that involves teeny umbrellas.

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Just between you and me confidentially.. The plan is not to conquer, but to invade and immediately surrender. Then once we have become happy Norse with lots of oil, instead miserable drunken Finns, living at frozen swamp. We can start all raising social benefits from the Norse Valhalla and spend the rest of our days being drunk and miserable at some beach at lot warmer latitude...~;)

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Originally Posted by Kagemusha

There goes another finely tuned plan down the toilet...Hmmmpphh.Maybe our time will come when the Norse disband their army as Horetore suggests...:quiet:

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You want the North?

Take it. I'll pay you for it. Please.

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

You want the North?

Take it. I'll pay you for it. Please.

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Oh you're just still bitter about that evening in Trondheim with the three Llaps and the goat....

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

Oh you're just still bitter about that evening in Trondheim with the three Llaps and the goat....

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I'll give you credit for the joke, but alas Trondheim is not a part of the North ~;)

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

I'll give you credit for the joke, but alas Trondheim is not a part of the North ~;)

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I was rushing. Should've said Narvik or somewhere up there where all directions are south.

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

Yes, and since you're the second largest, you're not the largest one, are you? ~;)

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Hence second only to

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

I'll give you credit for the joke, but alas Trondheim is not a part of the North ~;)

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Where do you draw the North? Looking at a map, Trondheim looks to be in the Northern part of main Norway, but is still within that big oval/head shape if you think of Norway looking like a big sperm.

The 'North' in England is defined as 'North of the Watford Gap' as shown in this image:
https://i.imgur.com/mxkl8G8.jpg

Usually due to examples such as population, culture, other various factors. Scotland has its 'Highlands and Lowlands'

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Originally Posted by Fragony

Hence second only to

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The appropriate sentence would read "The Netherlands is the second largest food exporter in the world, with only the US ahead." ~;)

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Originally Posted by Tiaexz

Where do you draw the North? Looking at a map, Trondheim looks to be in the Northern part.

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"The North" consists of Nordland, Troms and Finnmark.

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Originally Posted by Greyblades

And have American News networks pollute British airwaves? I'd sooner we become part of France, than suffer your torrents of political advertising.

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I wouldn't mind being part of a pan-Nordic government, though, we could break English down into 6-10 historic units if they'd let us join.

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Originally Posted by Tiaexz

Where do you draw the North? Looking at a map, Trondheim looks to be in the Northern part of main Norway, but is still within that big oval/head shape if you think of Norway looking like a big sperm.

The 'North' in England is defined as 'North of the Watford Gap' as shown in this image:
https://i.imgur.com/mxkl8G8.jpg

Usually due to examples such as population, culture, other various factors. Scotland has its 'Highlands and Lowlands'

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If you want to extend your knowledge concerning the Nordic countries and bit from other countries as well. Here is your ultimate source for any information needed::beam:

http://satwcomic.com/sweden-denmark-and-norway

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

"The North" consists of Nordland, Troms and Finnmark.

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Thought so, you were referring to the 'tail' part of Norway.

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Originally Posted by Kagemusha

If you want to extend your knowledge concerning the Nordic countries and bit from other countries as well. Here is your ultimate source for any information needed::beam:

http://satwcomic.com/sweden-denmark-and-norway

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I already have read that! It is very good and handy.

I like this one, ashame it doesn't include Jorvik and the North of England. :sad:
http://satwcomic.com/new-nordic

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Originally Posted by Kagemusha

If you want to extend your knowledge concerning the Nordic countries and bit from other countries as well. Here is your ultimate source for any information needed::beam:

http://satwcomic.com/sweden-denmark-and-norway

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Those were not the Regions I was looking for.

Was think more of breaking it down by Duchy, which makes more sense, and doesn't leave an orphan "South Central" region.

It's kinda depressing knowing that the scots want to go; they're the only member of this union that joined semi willingly.

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Originally Posted by Greyblades

It's kinda depressing knowing that the scots want to go; they're the only member of this union that joined semi willingly.

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they wont vote for it, however it wont be decisive enough to make the issue go away





Anyway if the sorta can join semi-willingly then the reverse has to be applicable

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

The appropriate sentence would read "The Netherlands is the second largest food exporter in the world, with only the US ahead." ~;)

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How I wrote it is perfectly fine

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Originally Posted by Greyblades

It's kinda depressing knowing that the scots want to go; they're the only member of this union that joined semi willingly.

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Well there was rioting in Scotland and Scots beaten up in London. It's just the other way around these days. :creep:

Stay with UK, Cameron tells Scotland!

Is that double speak?

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Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube

A big part of what I consider social stability is the society-wide sense of inevitable governance. A habit of civilization, if you will. The sense that revolution, civil war, or true large-scale disorder is not only doomed to failure but more or less impossible, even if it is desirable. While it is true that the UK has problems, I think the idea of revolution or civil war is just as far-fetched there as it is here--something that resides purely in the realm of fiction. A strong safety net is negligible compared to that.

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There's some real merit in this.

Theoretically, France has a better democracy, but the French are wont to "go to the barricades" over anything they don't like - which makes the country rather harder to govern than the UK.

"the French are wont to "go to the barricades" over anything they don't like - which makes the country rather harder to govern than the UK." Agree. That makes things more difficult to a French Government to impose laws restraining freedom than in UK. You tell a British striker the strike is illegal he goes home, you tell a French he just will tell it will be one more thing to negotiate.