Yes it is Tribesman remember the cold war.
????? Nope , you have completely lost me there Redleg , when did the allies overthrow Stalin and put him on trial for the crimes he committed when he was their ally ?
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Yes it is Tribesman remember the cold war.
????? Nope , you have completely lost me there Redleg , when did the allies overthrow Stalin and put him on trial for the crimes he committed when he was their ally ?
So the difference, apparently, is that we continued to allow Stalin to murder people after we supported him- therefore we're not responsible. Whereas, we're guilty of all of Saddam's murders plus even more guilty than those that are blowing up civillians today because we took steps to overthrow him. Yup, makes sense to me. :dizzy2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
Stop the knuckle dragging for the sake of it Xiahou .
If you support someone when they are killing people , you cannot then go and say that you have to kill more people because the person you were supporting was killing people and try and distance yourself from your support of his killings in the first place .
So, by your logic, the 1st Gulf War was also hypocritical?
So, by your logic, the 1st Gulf War was also hypocritical?
Yes completely , you backed a murderous dictator against another country whose population had just evicted another of your local pets , while at the same time your military and administration was supplying weaponry to the very people who had not only evicted you friendly little puppet but had attacked the US embassy and kept US hostages for over a year .
Now after the 3rd Gulf war , to round off the hypocracy you are supporting the "terrorists" who Saddam was slaughtering , and supporting the "terrorists" who Saddam supported and who were actively involved in the embassy attack , and you are supporting the "terrorists" who were fighting the "terrorists" that were supporting Iran , and have helped put in high office in Iraq the very Iranian backed radicals who you have claimed to be the root of all the problems in the first place .
By YOU I do not mean you personally .
So is their any end to the hypocracy concerning the middle-east ?
If you want some more we could examine the whole Turkey-Syria-America love hate relationship in this so called war on terror . That would be fun ~;)
after WW2 the USSR and the USA went into a cold state of hostilies between each other fighting proxy wars with each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
after WW2 the USSR and the USA went into a cold state of hostilies between each other fighting proxy wars with each other.
Ah ......I understand now Redleg . So because Stalin was a murderous dictator it was decided that instead of overthrowing the former ally at home you would back other murderous dictators in in effort to defeat him in someone elses home .
Now what was the lesson for today ?
Not even close TribesmanQuote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
Your arguement of I am forgetting nothing Redleg , I am just pointing out the pure bull that people are using Saddams actions when he was their friend to make comparisons .
I am pointing out the error in your arguement - just like you are pointing out the error mentioned above.
No lesson at all - other then that nations use other nations as allies when it suits their needs, and those nations become enemies when conflicting interests overtake the mutual interest.