Unvote; Vote: Monty
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Unvote; Vote: Monty
Let's see where this leads us.
Happy birthday to the overseer, for he has approved what follows:
Alright, you scumbags. You think you can get me lynched on the sly? Not even the courtesy of a night-kill?
And don't think I'm not wise to you, GH. I wanted to have you killed N3, before my champion got himself lynched.
By the way: Mictlantecutl, I ordered the hit on you. You were acting a little Godlike. :wink:
I am Huitzilopochtli, god of war and the sun.
Csargo is Quetzlcoatl. Yaro is Mictlantecutl. Chaotix was my killer. I know that GH is a killer.
It seems in my "speculations" I hit too close to the truth, and you guessed my identity.
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Originally Posted by Csargo
But cut the crap - you can't vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yaropolk
So here's the deal: everything you have heard thus far, from GH, Yaropolk, Csargo, myself, Chaotix, and one other among you, has been bullcrap.
I'm one of three gods here. We get a follower, and he kills for us. Csargo and Yaropolk were killed N2. I am the last god standing, but the other gods still have their killers in the field.
I am bound by the oaths of the wager against revealing our winning conditions. Suffice to say that we are working against each other, and the only way town can win is if we simultaneously kill each other. Town is not the driver here. Town is merely a backdrop to our activities. It's the flavor of the game.
If you don't lynch me now, I will be night-killed. All I want to do is take down GH. Whether he's Mict's or Quetzl's puppet, I don't care. I just want to take down one more of these guys.
It matters not. Third killer, I do not know you. But whoever is lynched here, make the appropriate kill. You've already won.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Vote: General Hankerchief
Unvote; Vote: General Hankerchief
For the sun god!
So let me get this straight, there are 3 gods who have three killers.
2 gods are dead and one killer is dead?
So we have one god you and apparently one killer GH
So then we are left with one killer, right?
Yes, one killer besides. No idea who that one is, so he deserves to win IMO.
I had that boiling since the morning, but some stuff did have to be redacted.
THE GOD OF WAR WILL NOT BE BEATEN WITH CLEVER ONE-LINERS
Hahahaha no. You can rip out my beating heart before I let mafia win. Knowing me, that will happen.Quote:
Yes, one killer besides. No idea who that one is, so he deserves to win IMO.
Town victory is what I'm looking for.
Are you intentionally trying to sentence yourself to death, seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by edse
Wait what? There's no win condition? Except if simultaneous killing by the Gods themselves? But if we lynch you, isn't there a chance the town can win since from what you say, the two killers will be alive and possibly kill each other?Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
We have half an hour right?
All I can really say is that it would take simultaneous elimination for town victory. The second killer has been revealed. Work that out.
No they have winning conditions, but they can't reveal them.
Actually. Why don't we just lynch all the bloody gods now.
I doubt that. Town has to be given a fair chance of winning and the chance of three people killing exactly themselves through other people or what have you is quite small. So no, I think you are wrong.Quote:
ll I can really say is that it would take simultaneous elimination for town victory.
Sure, I guess, if you lynch me and GH is spot on with his kill...
You do realise that we have time to find the other killer...
Or possibly we shouldn't take at face value everything the self-confessed mafioso says....Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Though it would make sense to kill both Monty and GH anyway, to be blunt.
Ah, yeah, see, that's the thing...Quote:
Originally Posted by Visorslash
<redacted
Please try to figure this out on your own. I will say that nothing we do has anything to do with the town, specifically. In fact, I'm pretty sure every single possible outcome is not a win, or a loss, nor a draw. This is all about the gods.
A chance is better than no chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Yeah, agreed. That's another reason why Unvote; Vote: Montemorency is a good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ishmael
:shrug: You'll see what I mean.
Hey birthday guy, please give me an appropriate send-off.
Suspects of mine:
Lewwyn
GH
DaveShack
Edse
BSmith (Not as much though)
Wonder what happens when the gods die? And their followers. Unless, they can recruit a new follower... which means we can't lynch the dead yes, but what about the "missing".
Khaan, I know we can't lynch the dead, but what about those missing, such as Csargo and Yaropolk?
You should go read the wiki article on Mictlantecutl . . . it would illuminate you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Ah, aren't you forgetting a particularly important clause concerning our conduct?
QED
If you're working against each other, how do you know so much about the other gods and their killers? Especially in what, round 3? I like to think that I know khaan pretty well, and I know he's always hated detectives and other roles with the potential for omniscience, which is essentially what you're claiming.
Role Pm. Ask your buddy to show it to ya.
Also, Yaropolk admitted as much.
How convenient for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by issaikhaan
Except that it doesn't violate those rules.
Very well, I'll bow out. Go ahead and wriggle your way out of this, I won't raise my voice against you any longer. :mellow:
Interesting turn of events - and I like how GH is point-blank denying it. To be as blunt as Visor - I'm inclined to keep my vote on Monty and vote GH tomorrow - what we want to avoid is a tie. Unsure after all these 'reveal's' what might actually secure a town victory, but I'm fairly sure that lynching everyone who isn't town is a good way to start (heehaw!) :2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Visorslash
Montmorency: 4 (Lazy, BSmith, GH, Lewwyn)
GH: 2 ( Montmorency, Visorslash)
LazyMcCrow: 1 (edse)
After alot more posting today there is still a surprising lack of actual voting going on.
I believe after a lot of to-ing and fro-ing that the tally is correct but PLEASE someone check it - I am generally mistaken: - A sad fact which could just as easily apply to the situation at hand - I'm not sure how much I want to vote the way the God OF DEATH (supposedly Yaro) suggests I should. There seems like a great deal more to explore about Monty's actual motives beyond self-preservation and not enough time for such exploration. <insert shruggedy-shrug here>
The problem is that we have the same people talking. We have a load of lurkers.Quote:
Originally Posted by LazyMcCrow
We can lynch GH right now if you want Lazy.
Well I was worried about a tie letting them both off the hook, but reviewing the rules is always a good idea!Quote:
Originally Posted by Visorslash
"Any ties in voting will await someone to break it. First vote to either person who is tied will result in lynch, regardless of any posts after it."
So - why not, it might have some affect or another!
Unvote: Montmorency Vote: General Hankerchief
(if my tally is indeed correct)
Montmorency: 3 (BSmith, GH, Lewwyn)
GH: 3 ( Montmorency, Visorslash, Lazy)
LazyMcCrow: 1 (edse)
Unvote: Montmorency Vote: General Hankerchief
now with emboldened!
Lynch em all and let Tlaloc sort them out. :laugh4:
Lazy, what's your opinion of Lewwyn and Dave?
What was wrong with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Visorslash
Unvote:Vote:Montmorency
I have already given my 'intuition' based opinion of Lewwyn's scumminess, and I bought the explanation at the time. Now I'm not so sure. GH seemed keen to vote Daveshack, - if Monty's 'reveal' is true then GH may have been fishing for another killer. Daveshack hasn't said much of note, but has consistently stayed on the right side of a WoKing - that is either because he is scum, or because he genuinely wishes to participate :) tbh - I find you more scummy than Daveshack right now, but that should come as no surprise :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Visorslash
So why do you think Monty is a preferable lynch to GH?Quote:
Originally Posted by edse
I've been voting for Monty for two days already...Quote:
Originally Posted by LazyMcCrow
Why are you others voting for him? Because a dead man told you to.
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Originally Posted by LazyMcCrow
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Originally Posted by BSmith
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Originally Posted by Visorslash
When I think about it...
Unvote: Vote: GeneralHankerchief
He's a killer, Montmorency might not be able to kill.
And (thumbs back through thread) the only reason you've given for voting him up to now is because he was third on a joke bandwagon on D1 - is that the only thing that makes you more suspicious of Monty than GH?Quote:
Originally Posted by edse
As I've been saying from the beginning, it's a scummy move to be third on a joke bandwagon AND say "look, I'm third on the bandwagon, I must be mafia, hehehe"Quote:
Originally Posted by LazyMcCrow
edit: ahh you've updated your vote to GH.Quote:
Originally Posted by edse
I agree that as a suspected killer GH has to be lynched. If Monty's story is true and Gods cannot gain a 'Godfather' kill then there should only be one Night kill after a lynching of GH - by the remaining Killer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Re: Monty's reveal above. It all seems so definite - and frankly believable - apart from (and this has already been pointed out - by Ishmael? I can't remember) the emboldened line above. So~: Naturally, the Gods can't reveal their win conditions, but I feel fairly certain that Monty is BSing about town's victory conditions. What do others think on this subject? And assuming this story is for the most part true - who is the remaining killer?
You are, don't even try to defend yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by LazyMcCrow
I agree that the killer needs to be killed first. unvote; vote: GeneralHankerchief. If Monty is to be believed then he will likely be killed tonight by the third killer, leaving us to find the last killer the hard way.
Can't remember if I've voted, so play it safe Unvote.
Vote: GeneralHankerchief I was split between him and Lewwyn before, might as well carry through with that and see what happens.
Letting Monty live is a terrible idea, since he may be able to recruit another champion.Quote:
Originally Posted by LazyMcCrow
If that is the case, wouldn't he have done that on N3 after Chaotix was lynched? Or if it is a day recruitment, it would be today. Either way we are already too late to prevent that. Better to kill the killer now and reduce the deaths tonight in my opinion, and run the risk of another recruitment, even though it is less likely.
There won't be a tomorrow.
Round over. Writeup will be posted in a bit.
Because Monty will win as 'Last God Standing' if we don't lynch him today? Seems unlikely. However it also seems unlikely that two Gods would be killed by the end of N2 so you may be right. Ah well. Try and elaborate if you can though - that'd be nice :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Csargo
Well then the game is already lost for me then what do I care? The way it looks right now is that we are being played by opposing gods with no real way to win, so what does it matter what I do? Tell me how the town gets a win out of this and maybe I’ll listen.
If we lynch GH today (and he is indeed one of the two killers remaining), then that leaves Monty and the other killer. The other killer kills Monty tonight, leaving one killer remaining for us to work out. Hardly the end of the game for us.
Now if you are telling me that not lynching Monty today will mean that he wins, then the only way I see that happening is that Monty’s killer is still alive and he is lying to us about that part. Lynching GH today would then leave the two of them untouched and possibly trigger their win condition.
This is what it is, isn’t it?
EDIT: Double x-post. Well the day is over, so what will be will be.
I don't think I was supposed to say that. Breaking rules and whatnot.Quote:
Originally Posted by LazyMcCrow
You win by default if you're alive basically.Quote:
Originally Posted by BSmith
This is absolutely ridiculous and I'm so glad that I got railroaded while I was asleep and didn't even have the chance to defend myself.
Seriously guys, this was the easiest thing in the world to make up a story to get out of a lynch. Which two people had the most unusual deaths? Csar and Yaro. What's a good way to deflect pressure? Lump yourself in with them, without proof, and invent a story saying you can't kill, thereby absolving you of all sins. Absolutely convenient. What a crock. If I had known you guys were going to fall for this hook, line, and sinker, I would have taken him more seriously last night. Lynch him with extreme prejudice tomorrow.
Now I just feel stupid ...again.
Bahahaha...Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
If you're not actually a champion that makes this pretty funny, GH.
I'm going to withhold feelings of stupidity until we see what happens tonight.
I don't know the town's VC, or whether there really is one. I was just inferring based on what I do know; it was the only way I could think of.Quote:
Re: Monty's reveal above. It all seems so definite - and frankly believable - apart from (and this has already been pointed out - by Ishmael? I can't remember) the emboldened line above. So~: Naturally, the Gods can't reveal their win conditions, but I feel fairly certain that Monty is BSing about town's victory conditions. What do others think on this subject? And assuming this story is for the most part true - who is the remaining killer?
is certainly another possibility.Quote:
You win by default if you're alive basically.
But sure, I can't actually be certain GH is a killer. If he isn't. he must be a "special" townie like Ishmael. Let's see the result.
For the record, I can not recruit another hero.
Forgive us for taking your words with a grain of salt Montmorency :yes:.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Personally, I'm positive. I think the town is well on the way to catching all the mafia and avenging our beloved High Priest. (Cue 'Total Mafia Victory' tomorrow)
Oh gee, thanks for telling everybody that now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Alright, I admit it. All of that was made up.Quote:
Forgive us for taking your words with a grain of salt Montmorency
I actually control both killers and I can recruit to replace the one you lynched, tonight. Now that you've wasted this round - and tomorrow you'll have to lynch me - my scums are unstoppable, as there are no longer enough of you to lynch them. Csargo and Yaropolk were your only hopes, but I chose to investigate N1 instead of killing; :evil:
On the other hand, everything in my reveal might just be the truth.
Of course, the Emperor was right, in a way. We still had the task set before us. The time for grief would be later. After the initial shock wore off, those gathered gave their most vigorous examination yet. It began more or less as a standard procedure. But before long, increasingly grand proclamations were made. One even claimed to be Huitzilopochtli himself! What madness? I began to wonder if the task was too much for much for this group of men. But before I could think to make any protestation, the scout returned from his watch to inform us the day was finished. The emperor stood up, with a somewhat disturbing grin on his face. "Well, my men! What have we? Which of you will you hand over to me today?" The group, so much smaller than when we started, looked around at each other for a moment before pointing at the prestigious General Hankerchief, victor in the war against Tlaxcala. I suppose that this made some sense. Even though we failed to annex the city proper, the General brought a large amount of territory under our own control.
He, however, disagreed. Even though he voluntarily walked up to the altar, he berated the rest. While he laid down on the altar, he laughed at their ignorance, claiming the whole effort was doomed folly. His voice was finally silenced as the Emperor, acting in place of Tlacalael, thrust the knife into his chest. Unfortunately, the Emperor was not nearly as proficient in the act as Tlacalael. It took nearly a full minute of slicing and hacking and pulling apart ribs before the Emperor found the heart, now still from being pulled from a deceased host. He held it aloft for a short while before setting it down next to the General. "Excellent work!" The Emperor congratulated them. "Well done! I'm sure the gods noticed our efforts today! Rain will be here before we know it!" I couldn't help but feel uneasy as I headed back to my quarter for the night.
IT IS NOW NIGHT FOUR. PLEASE SEND ORDERS.
GH- 6 (Edse, Bsmith, Daveshack, Montmorency, Visorslash, Lazy)
Montmorency- 2 (GH, Lewwyn)
Alive:
Bsmith
Daveshack
Edse
Fluffy
Landlubber
Lazy McCrow
Lewwyn
Montmorency
Visorslash
White eyes
Zack
Lynched:
Atheotes (D1)
SalmonSoil (D2)
Chaotix (D3)
GeneralHankerchief (D4)
Attacked:
Seon (N2)
Yaropolk (N2)
Csargo (N2)
Jarema (N3)
Ishmael (N3)
False dichotomy, much?Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Regardless of whether GH is scum or not, I'm happy to see one suspect go.
Heh, GH.
Ye of little faith... :no:
And....I missed another round. You all can lynch me if you can't find a suspect tomorrow, I make real good lynch-bait.:grin2:
I think the GH lynch was a fail...sure he was acting like he had a role but it seemed more Pro-townish. Even if Mort can recruit someone else, I doubt the new recruit can do so again(It is only 20 players). So there are 2-3 lynchs to get it right.:book:
Alright, night is over. Writeup will be posted asap.
Deep within the bowels of the pyramid, Visorslash found himself investigating a very strange chamber. With a torch in hand, he explored the chamber, marveling over the design. As the Emperor’s chief engineer, he was naturally curious about the structure of the pyramid, but never before had he the access. This particular chamber was in the center, with two open pathways out each direction. He explored around, looking for torches to light. Eventually, he found one on each side of the pathways. With the extra light, he could see the magnificent, high ceiling decorated in art similar to the sacrificial chamber. Even more fascinating, there were massive stone plates which could be drawn out to bar a pathway via a lever mechanism. However, the purpose of this chamber seemed to have been lost, as it now seemed to be used in storage. Sacks were stacked in the corners of each room. He poked at one, finding an odd, dark powder in it. He pondered what it could be when a flare from his torch dropped into a sack, igniting the substance.
Visorslash only barely avoided the small explosion, vaulting backwards. It still left a charred mark on his face, but it could be worse, he supposed. What sort of bizarre substance is this? And why was it being stored down here? He continued to explore around. His foot scuffed over something on the ground. His peered down, and his eyes went wide. It was a trail of the strange powder. He followed it out of the chamber, down the northern pathway. It lead to a nearby chamber, which was similar to the previous one. More sacks of the powder were littered across this one as well. What…? A noise from behind him made Visorslash spin around. He ran as fast as he could to the original chamber. He skidded to a stop when he found a lean man dumping another sack of the powder into the corner. He turned to his new guest. “Ah, welcome, welcome! You’re here just in time for the spectacular display!” the man said as he casually walked up to Visorslash. “Such a wondrous substance this is. Not sure where it came from, but once I found it, I knew exactly what to do with it. Tell me, do you know?”
Visorslash gulped and nodded. “Ah, such a pity. I guess that doesn’t leave me much choice.” Without warning, he lunged at Visorslash, pulling a club from behind his cloak. The engineer didn’t have the reflexes to doge, and blacked out the instant the club collided with the side of his head.
A hissing noise was the first to wake Visorslash up. He stirred, and was shaken out of his groggery by panic. There was powder littered everywhere across the ground. It lead out in both directions. The sound of swift running went off in the southern direction. If there were more chambers filled with the powder…. Was this man insane? Was he trying to destroy the whole pyramid? With a panic, Visorlslash did the only thing he could think off. He sprinted to the pulley controlling the northern door, and immediately began pump as fast as he could. The door seemed to slide out agonizingly slow, but perhaps that was simply time slowing down. The scraping of the door across the floor grated his nerves as much as the hissing of the powder trail igniting across the floor. With a thud, the first door slammed shut. He sprinted back across the room, and began cranking it as fast as he could. As he cranked, he began to sing his favorite tune in a hushed tone, one he’d come up with a while ago after receiving his promotion to chief engineer. It soothed his nerves whenever he sang it.
“I am the very model of a Tenochtitlan Engineer. I’ve learned to design with shapes of pyramid, tetrahedron, and the sphere. I know the construction of all faces of a building, front and rear. I’ve shaped the fields, the markets, made sure the space was clear…” With a thud, the second door clammed shut. With a deep sigh, he stared at the trail, just seconds from igniting the huge sacks stacked against the walls. At least the ignition wouldn’t escape. The lower levels were safe, at least for now. He skipped to the final verse. “For my knowledge, I have been paid and praised. For my purpose, many fields have been razed. In the end, in matters of construction and gears, I am the very model of-“ Visorslash’s final line was cut short as the stacks of powder ignited simultaneously, sending a roaring explosion searing the room and rocking the doors. But still, the massive plates held. For at least one more day, the pyramid was safe and sound.
As we entered the sacrificial chamber once more, we all knew the odds. The noise from the basement alerted a pair of scouts to investigate the source. We found one of the chambers completely charred, with an unrecognizable body inside. We only identified him as Visorslash later by head count. We needed to end this drought fast, or we all might die before we can even find the pure one. Even the Emperor seemed a bit more somber than yesterday in wake of the news. Still, our task was not yet finished, and so we began our examination once more.
IT IS NOW DAY 5. YOU HAVE 36 HOURS.
Alive:
Bsmith
Daveshack
Edse
Fluffy
Landlubber
Lazy McCrow
Lewwyn
Montmorency
White eyes
Zack
Lynched:
Atheotes (D1)
SalmonSoil (D2)
Chaotix (D3)
GeneralHankerchief (D4)
Attacked:
Seon (N2)
Yaropolk (N2)
Csargo (N2)
Jarema (N3)
Ishmael (N3)
Visorslash (N4)
Only one death - promising.
I enjoyed my death, thank you Khaan.
Alright. Monty I think we should probably kill you.
Edse as well.
Well, guys? Got anything you want to say to me?
I was thinking more along the lines of acknowledgement of my honesty... :P
Haha, no. Killing you wraps up a loose end.
Eh, whether or not I am lynched today, the outcome is the same.
Oh really. Town loses does it?
Nope. Only I lose. Well Chaotix, the eliminated pair, and I lose.
Right. We still need to find this pure sacrifice though. SO monty or edse townies, which one?
Well, let’s get this started. vote: Monty.
One kill is indeed promising.
x-post with Visor. I say Monty first, eliminate the known quantity. Not sure what threat he is at this point (assuming he has been honest) but that is what my gut is telling me to do.
A-HA!
I've found you out, I do believe.
Here's my last shot, henchman.
Vote: Bsmith
What's the situation with WoKs, Khan?
Why? Because I am the first to vote for you? Good luck with that.
Then who? Edse, Lewwyn, or Crow? The WoK-bait?
I've made my choice. I've no better to do than gamble.
But why are you gambling. What reasons do you have?
Hey, if I lynch my competitor, it can only be good for me.