Rampage Out of Space

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Originally Posted by Timsup2nothin

Okay this is the only honest thing that has been said about me this game so far. So far I joked about collecting three heads and circling back for Argon. That is a pretty typical joke for me. The Blues Brothers not quite quote about killing Csargo was also I thought pretty obviously mostly a joke.

The reads list, day one, even before everyone has posted? Never done that before EVER. Had MANY day one knock down dragout tilts over refusing to give reads, both as town or wolf. A huge warning sign on Raskol is that he should be deep into WTF is Tim up to now? and he seems totally cool about it.

Argon is flat lying and I'm not sure what to make of that. I am town, but there is no way a n0 cop check on me comes back anything like miller so that part at the very least he made up out of thin air.

Yea, I can, and often will, flood the thread as wolf or town. I am not, and I am not going to be. This is less typical for me, but I have also done this as wolf or town.

Gun to head right now I probably would vote Raskol, but will not actually be voting until either everyone has voted or we are reasonably approaching EoD, whichever comes first.

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:sweatdrop: I thought it was serious...

thought the reads list was abnormal, but figured hk would have pointed out it that was true.

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Originally Posted by pzelda

Not a specific problem. They just feel too eager to call people towns and I don't exactly see the meta townread of hk as good (I hope that answers your question c4).

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I don't really get the first part. I can kinda understand the second though, since the first part of that read confused me and I thought it was odd.

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Originally Posted by Dolby

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Originally Posted by hollowkatt

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Originally Posted by pzelda

Tbh, the whole take is vaguely in null territory. A great comment or action from HK would make it minor a nuisance. Tbh, talking about Largon doing the same thing every game isn't moving game forward and I find it slightly off that HK uses it to push Borg. Also, his meta read on Tim - It's good but it's also deliberately keeping Tim in nulls.
But again, I don't think any of this is substantial enough to call HK scum. The Tim read actually got me slightly paranoid about Tim, who immediately posted about changing his style every game - and that's not a post, which makes man feel safer.

Overall, this feels like an old school d1 with surface interactions and lack of substantial reads.

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lord have mercy this post is bad
Vote: pzelda

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elaborate

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It's all shade, no conclusion, and also wrong

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Originally Posted by Timsup2nothin

been thinking about how I would play with Argon in the pack...I think if he is wolf with you you just have to trust him to get clear, so I wouldn't be expecting any panic even if he is a wolf

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probably the right thing is let him do whatever he's interested in doing and trust that he isn't going to spew you

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Originally Posted by Winston Hughes

Vote: hollowkatt

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You voted hollowkatt because he called you "town"?

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Originally Posted by Winston Hughes

unvote

I suppose I ought to start making an effort to read the thread and form opinions about stuff.

Being a civilised creature, however, first I need cocktails, dinner, dancing, and perhaps a little light petting to get me in the mood.

On the other hand, maybe I'll just smash a microwaveable doner kebab and four wicked-strength cheap lagers through my facehole while watching some shit on the telly.

Either way, I'll be back at some point before eod to attempt a degree of actual participation.

p.s. Anyone who reads me as anything other than straight null up to and including this point is either lying or wrong.

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< null cause :martass:

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Originally Posted by Garden Gnome

You voted hollowkatt because he called you "town"?

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you should read the proceding 3 posts to that again I think

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Originally Posted by Garden Gnome

You voted hollowkatt because he called you "town"?

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It's best to nip that kind of thing in the bud, I find.

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Originally Posted by Csargo

:sweatdrop: I thought it was serious...

thought the reads list was abnormal, but figured hk would have pointed out it that was true.

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I mean, I'm always willing to lop off someone's head, but it is a quote from the Blues Brothers. I honestly didn't expect it to be taken seriously. You do seem a lot more actively engaged than I expect from town Csargo though.

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Originally Posted by hollowkatt

probably the right thing is let him do whatever he's interested in doing and trust that he isn't going to spew you

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Yeah, if I ever rand wolf with Argon I think that would be the only way to play it. That's why I think Dolby's "no sign of wolves panicking, must be town" read is kinda flawed. That plus the whole "few votes on" seems kinda stretchy to begin with. Even if Argon is a wolf and the rest of the pack were inclined towards outing themselves on protective efforts, Argon has been talked about but doesn't seem to have picked up any real pressure. Dunno if this is t!Dolby shielding out of habit or w!Dolby dropping the paragon because he knows that's what we expect from t!Dolby. Seems forced maybe.

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Originally Posted by Timsup2nothin

I mean, I'm always willing to lop off someone's head, but it is a quote from the Blues Brothers. I honestly didn't expect it to be taken seriously. You do seem a lot more actively engaged than I expect from town Csargo though.

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It's pretty easy given the thread. like you I'm also trying to alter my playstyle.

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Originally Posted by Csargo

It's pretty easy given the thread. like you I'm also trying to alter my playstyle.

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Hmmm...yeah it doesn't have that ominous weight of 4000 posts immanent pressing down on it.

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Originally Posted by Winston Hughes

It's best to nip that kind of thing in the bud, I find.

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I completely agree

[QUOTE=hollowkatt;2053820305]would be perfectly happy chopping panda/pzelda/raskol/QUOTE]

Think Panda's a misguided townie. He seems to really believe this snippet of mafia theory he's using.

Whoops

Busted quote, must be a wolf.

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Originally Posted by Timsup2nothin

Busted quote, must be a wolf.

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if only it were that easy

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Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5

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Originally Posted by hollowkatt

would be perfectly happy chopping panda/pzelda/raskol

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Think Panda's a misguided townie. He seems to really believe this snippet of mafia theory he's using.

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it seems easy to fake to me

Hello friends!

Sincerest apologies for not being here sooner. I pressed the LAUNCH button on my business on Sunday night, after nearly 18 months of preparation, and things picked up rather more quickly than I was expecting.

But, GOOD NEWS! I shan't be destitute immediately. And more GOOD NEWS! I randed town, which is my fav alignment, so now I don't have to feign interest in this game and genuinely do want to be here despite juggling 3 jobs, 1 of which doesn't know about the other two :P

Did I miss anything exciting (read: claims)?

My plan is to find a town and sheep them to victory because although I want to be here, my time is super limited.

Somebody please obvtown themselves to be ASAP or I will spam this game with Calumon gifs, NGL.

Oh god, a typo. I better read the rules before I edit that :|

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Originally Posted by El-ahrairah

Hello friends!

Sincerest apologies for not being here sooner. I pressed the LAUNCH button on my business on Sunday night, after nearly 18 months of preparation, and things picked up rather more quickly than I was expecting.

But, GOOD NEWS! I shan't be destitute immediately. And more GOOD NEWS! I randed town, which is my fav alignment, so now I don't have to feign interest in this game and genuinely do want to be here despite juggling 3 jobs, 1 of which doesn't know about the other two :P

Did I miss anything exciting (read: claims)?

My plan is to find a town and sheep them to victory because although I want to be here, my time is super limited.

Somebody please obvtown themselves to be ASAP or I will spam this game with Calumon gifs, NGL.

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There have been three claims, none of which has had even the tiniest shred of credibility. I wish I could refer you to someone as obvtown, but as of right now "not actively looking like a wolf" is about as high as anyone even seems to be striving for. My first reads list already had five wolves on it, and that was before five players had even checked in. It has gotten worse instead of better.

Please don't hit the gif button though, because since the last time I saw you do that I have seen two gif posters and they were both wolves. Amateurs giving gif posting a bad name, smh.

Okay, so.

There's some weird mechanic regarding ties. This is completely irrelevant to me. EOD is at Midnight or 1am for me (I'm not sure how far ahead we are since our clocks went forward 2 weeks ago). Either way, I won't be here for EOD. If I'm tied with a vote for someone, I'm always losing that whole rock-paper-scissors thing. So if it's the case that I'm lynched by majority, next day you lynch the scummiest person on my wagon. I might be able to give you a heads up in advance of who that will be. If I'm lynched by tie, don't auto-lynch my counter, just lynch the scummiest person on my wagon. I guarantee there'll be wolves on it. There always are, and now that I've revealed my EOD weakness they will probably try to exploit that.

Post cap, not an issue.

Player list looks fun. I can read these people:

hollowkatt
Raskol (but never seen him woofin)
Tim
Gnome (in turbos with 100% accuracy, slightly less in normal speed games)

I've also played before with LA, Nanook, Csar and Cap so feel comfortable reading them. If I think any are woofin, I'll let you know.

Just reading the spoiler text and it seems I can submit RPS actions ahead of time which is super nifty, so ignore the ramble above but always assume 1 wolf voting me.

I think that's about everything. Time to read up on what I've missed.

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Originally Posted by Timsup2nothin

There have been three claims, none of which has had even the tiniest shred of credibility.

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I resent this.

I have a 100% record of hardclaiming miller when I'm actually a miller. :crown:

Someone HMU with a link to the last noted vote count while I do ketchup?

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Originally Posted by Dolby

ngl want to townread this

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Want to, or do?

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Originally Posted by hollowkatt

vote: Raskol for existing and also having more posts than he should by now.

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Mmm

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Originally Posted by Csargo

okay, sort of meh but I'll buy it.

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Why buy the meh? I return meh for a full refund

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Originally Posted by hollowkatt

kinda wanna wolf read you for this

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mm

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

This made me laugh smh...

Jokes aside, I middly concerned by Dolby read on c4... pocket or ww or NAI? Gonna sleep on it

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Ah, so this is what Rask looks like when he's woofin

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Originally Posted by Timsup2nothin

probably equal

I'm a little puzzled by the OP

the thread is simple; we just chop Raskol, Chessguy, and HK, and if the wolves haven't slaughtered Argon for claiming cop we circle back and chop him

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I chuckled

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Originally Posted by El-ahrairah

Hello friends!

Sincerest apologies for not being here sooner. I pressed the LAUNCH button on my business on Sunday night, after nearly 18 months of preparation, and things picked up rather more quickly than I was expecting.

But, GOOD NEWS! I shan't be destitute immediately. And more GOOD NEWS! I randed town, which is my fav alignment, so now I don't have to feign interest in this game and genuinely do want to be here despite juggling 3 jobs, 1 of which doesn't know about the other two :P

Did I miss anything exciting (read: claims)?

My plan is to find a town and sheep them to victory because although I want to be here, my time is super limited.

Somebody please obvtown themselves to be ASAP or I will spam this game with Calumon gifs, NGL.

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Congrats on launching your business! That's awesome!
BorgPicard (AKA LordArgon) has claimed Cop. He's probably lying. He's also possibly town. Just a thing he does.
That's about it for claims I think?
@El-ahrairah

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Originally Posted by Dolby

ngl want to townread this

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Originally Posted by hollowkatt

vote: Raskol for existing and also having more posts than he should by now.

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Originally Posted by Csargo

okay, sort of meh but I'll buy it.

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Originally Posted by hollowkatt

kinda wanna wolf read you for this

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

This made me laugh smh...

Jokes aside, I middly concerned by Dolby read on c4... pocket or ww or NAI? Gonna sleep on it

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Originally Posted by pzelda

Good morning fellow space citizens!

Page 1 - It looks like there's a wolf in csargo/rask. Dolby feels good. Borg guts town for fake derping.
Page 2 - I guess both wolves and towns posted on the page, but nothing decisive.
Page 3 - Lewwyn's choice of posts to respond to is noteworthy, but too light to be alignment indicative. Csargo being more active than usual is mildly unsettling.

Overall, not much to talk about yet. HK and Csargo could be waffles together, if Rask town, but that's a nasty association I got here. HK's approach to this game feels slightly diferent than the last time, but my alignment was different back then and It was easy to see towniness in his posts.
Rask feels really hyped for this game despite claiming light disappointment about his role. I haven't decided if it's a good look yet.
C4 posted enough for me to notice them, but that's all I can say about their posts with certainty.
Tim not flooding the gates with posts probably should be a villa lean, but it would be a meh meta lean.

Villa leans: Dolby, Borg
Scum potential: Rask, Csargo, HK

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Look ma, I found a town

So apparently there's some sort of auto-queue that I haven't figured out how to clear yet...

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Originally Posted by El-ahrairah

So apparently there's some sort of auto-queue that I haven't figured out how to clear yet...

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just keep them in the queue, that way we'll never have to ask for progression :D

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Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5

Panda towny

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Town, or towny?

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Originally Posted by Timsup2nothin

So: early reads...these are obviously subject to development, but will be decisive. Nulls are for wimps.

Argon: in first, claims cop, claims ridiculous n0 check on me, uses avatar basically open referencing that he is a wolf...just another day in the life for him...if he is a wolf he has partners and at least some of those partners would be saying "WTF dude?" because they don't know him. No sign of that discomfort; Argon town.

Chessguy: lots of posts, creates image of "let's get started" by picking at gif posters but doesn't say anything really, overeager to be read on this; probs just a wolf.

Csargo: throwing them gif, but a LOT of them, then shifted to words and stayed overbusy for Csargo; probs a wolf.

Raskol: Emphasizing "disappointed by the rand" which is code for "I claim village," doesn't mention me until he finds a way to be agreeable instead of challenging immediately so trying to stay off radar; probs a wolf.

Dolby: meaningless paragoning of Argon, early read of Chessguy that I disagree with, challenged and stuck to it in a good way. Town.

Hollowkatt: comes in swinging to draw attention, early targeting on Raskol so reval as potential w/w there, seems to be worried about me an appropriate amount. Town

Nanook: enters by establishing slanker cred, immediately threatens to kill the person that helps him. Town


Winston: entry by Hardclaim, no additional posts. lean town

Lewynn: entry is softballed off previous post, but second post indicates reading of full thread, then back to softballing off another entry. Probs wolf

Pzelda: opens with a developed reads post which he just got wolf bombed for last time I saw him and he didn't get bombed for it here. May just have done a better job of it, but... Probs just town.

Panda: points out Pzeldas read post as unique, which is accurate, but wolfs it just for that without challenging the reads. Wolf

Many not posted yet. Gnome, Ibn, Laurentus, El, Vro...get your stuff together.

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Town #2 identified

El landing hard on the thread is a town read for now.

Nice crosspost.

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Originally Posted by Winston Hughes

spricht keiner von euch deutsch?

oder ist es so, dass meine Lügen mich eingeholt haben und niemand mehr etwas glaubt, was ich "hardclaim"?

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Yeah... don't do that.

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Originally Posted by Garden Gnome

This feels like a very shy thread. Anyone could be a scummy scum scum. I read it all and am happily clueless.:help:

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"Anyone could be scum" is hardly breaking news but I'm glad to see you got a proper avatar. That stock one you had in the sign-up thread was super forgettable.

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Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5

:/

Do I need to AtE selfvote for you to have a read on me?

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Ace?!?!?

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Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun

I have been keeping my eye on the thread.
Don't know who to vote yet.

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Oh look, another town. I don't know what you were talking about Tim, they're easy enough to find.

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Originally Posted by El-ahrairah

Yeah... don't do that.

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Sorry, but I've got a reputation to hold down.

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Originally Posted by El-ahrairah

Oh look, another town. I don't know what you were talking about Tim, they're easy enough to find.

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While I don't disagree with any of your finds so far the only one I absolutely hard agree on was me. But yeah, there are some. There's just too many wolves though. :(

townies (not ordered)
El
Tim
Winston
Dolby
C4
Gnome
Lewwyn

Dunno
Everyone who's not already named

Do Day Murder To (not ordered)
BorgPicard
Raskol
pzelda
Panda

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Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun

Don't think Rask is mafia.
Csargo could be one?

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@Ibn-Khaldun

If you haven't already, can you elaborate on the bolded?

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Originally Posted by Dolby

Bad

So here's my problem with Rask. It feels like he's mashing his mouthparts together and expecting something substantial to come out, but it's not. We've got his second sussing Csargo, that I was writing off as a joke until I saw this

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If Rask flips town, speed-lynch Dolby.

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Originally Posted by BorgPicard

It is nice being town cop so I can be certain of my reads. So I can assure everyone don't worry about Tim.

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Okie dokie

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Originally Posted by hollowkatt

UGH WHY IS IT TINY

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:tiny:

I'm literally reading the thread at the exact same speed as El, but without managing to post any analysis whatsoever! :shame:

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Originally Posted by Winston Hughes

Sorry, but I've got a reputation to hold down.

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If you're going to randomly spout other languages in the game thread, you could at least make it a language that's awesome and sexy, like Klingon.

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Originally Posted by El-ahrairah

If you're going to randomly spout other languages in the game thread, you could at least make it a language that's awesome and sexy, like Klingon.

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SoSwI'

apparently in klingon the words "mother" and "hardclaim: miller" are the same :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5

I am objectively playing the most pro-town of anyone right now.

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Never lynching here today.

Lewwyn looks townie enough, though I would warn against underestimating his ability to fake it.

HK feels natural. And being the top poster by a distance, I'm never voting here d1.

Tim, I need to go to bed. Who are we voting?

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Originally Posted by BorgPicard

I have set myself a meta so that even now that I am a cop mafia can't tell if I am lying or not. The only way they can tell is if I green check one of them and then I probably will be ignored. I have played with most of the people here so I feel like I can pull this off without disrupting town. Once I get a red check I will share it since getting one of the mafia is probably as good as it will get. Then all my green checks will be cleared when the mafia silences me.

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This logic pleases me, but also seems rather scumsome.

vote: pzelda

Vote: Dolby

Let's give that a try. Super tired, going to bed. GL town.

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Originally Posted by El-ahrairah

Vote: Dolby

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not that I have any kind of townread here, but this feels a bit milquetoast

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Originally Posted by El-ahrairah

Let's give that a try. Super tired, going to bed. GL town.

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nn :bow:

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Originally Posted by hollowkatt

lord have mercy this post is bad
Vote: pzelda

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hadn't read this when i voted

that's a mindmeld

Confidence says the interactions between Tim and Lewwyn look very t/t.

Paranoia says Tim and Lewwyn would probably do something like it if w/w.

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Originally Posted by El-ahrairah

Tim, I need to go to bed. Who are we voting?

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Unless someone has a better idea I'm gonna concede to not trusting Raskol. Him town reading me early just strikes me so much as "yeah we're gonna just night kill you Tim and that will make this look good." I legit have wolfed him so hard so often that I cannot explain how he would trust me so quick and easy there.

Hi guys I was going to play today but then I fell asleep instead. Sleep deprivation is a helluva drug.

Who are we killing and why is it tim?

Panda feels townie to me for reasons I can't currently explain.

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Originally Posted by El-ahrairah

Vote: Dolby

Let's give that a try. Super tired, going to bed. GL town.

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Night El.

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Originally Posted by NANOOK

Hi guys I was going to play today but then I fell asleep instead. Sleep deprivation is a helluva drug.

Who are we killing and why is it tim?

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Was this supposed to be in wolfchat?

Got to be honest here...

I really don't want it to be Rask, but I think it might very well be.

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Originally Posted by Timsup2nothin

Was this supposed to be in wolfchat?

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:laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Winston Hughes

Got to be honest here...

I really don't want it to be Rask, but I think it might very well be.

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I have killed Raskol early so many times, as a wolf and as misguided town, that I feel bad doing it even if it's right. But he's way off if he's town...almost so far off as to be in too wolfy to be a wolf territory. Which is weird because I have seen him just openwolf it before too so TWTBAW isn't a defense I'm really comfortable allowing him either.
@Raskolnikov get in here and town it up please.

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Originally Posted by Dolby

you should read the proceding 3 posts to that again I think

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Why does this happen?

No need for a correction here if you're town. Just let it play out.

Feeling better about El's vote now.

hk and skinner can be town

rask and dolby can join pzelda in the burn pile

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Originally Posted by El-ahrairah

Why buy the meh? I return meh for a full refund

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mostly cause i can understand it, and see how Dolby got there. i just didn't really agree with the take

HOST TALLY 1-5

Zelda (2): c4, Winston
Rask (2): Csargo, Zelda
c4 (2): Borg, Panda
Panda (2): Lewwyn, Hollow
Winston (1): Rask
Borg (1): Ibn-K
Dolby (1): El-A

Not Voting (6): Dolby, Tim, Gnome, Nanook, Laurentus, Vroendal

This wagon formation always...

Movement
[Rask] Csargo >> Winston
[Hollow] Rask >> Borg >> Panda
[c4] Borg >> Zelda
[Winston] Rask >> Hollow >> Zelda





It is vanishingly unlikely anyone will reach the postcap today.

How do I vote here?

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Worth saying at this point that if this is a 10 pages day, wolves will have a blast.

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This rings scummy to me. Feels of trying to think like town but not quite getting there.

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Originally Posted by NANOOK

How do I vote here?

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manually. bold text, vote: name

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Originally Posted by NANOOK

How do I vote here?

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Like this:

vote: Dolby

That gives us five wagons to choose from at two votes tied...time to choose among them and consolidate...let's get our stuff together here town.

HOST NOTICE

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How do I vote here?

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Check the Rules spoiler in the OP. There are some important need-to-know rules there.

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1. Vote to oust a player each day, e.g. Vote: Visorslash. Not allowed are Vote: No Lim (aka Sleep) and Vote: Abstain, since you're all a decisive, rough and ready sort of folk by flavor. Unvoting (Unvote:) is noted, but not required to place a new vote. Stick to this format. Misspellings and nicknames are acceptable as long as they are not obscure.

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I'd be happy with rask/dolby/pzelda going rps.

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Originally Posted by Winston Hughes

I'd be happy with rask/dolby/pzelda going rps.

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This is where I'm at

I don't like the Dolby part. They are obviously town and any attmpys to say otherwise will lead to disapproving stares.

D1 Reads:
Town leans -
El-A - Opening reads very townie to me, puts in immediate effort to lock down his thoughts on thread, asks for clarification on posts through read-through.
CutePanda - Makes a post that catches flak, claims it was a contradictory bait. Calls on others to defend him for his activity. I will vouch that I’ve seen CP make plays like this before as town and that I’m doubtful he would take this approach as scum. Has a confusing ISO.
hollowkat - High amount of analysis in general, provides unique takes on players such as Rask, LA,
c4 - Early game indicative of townie WIM, shields HK, calls a weird post by CP townie while taking it as face value which is mehhh, bemoans post-count multiple times, makes a decent push on pzelda.
Lewwyn - Has been sheeping a few reads. Has broached on the idea of Winston/Garden being suspicious.
Raskolnikov - I have absolutely no read on his posts, I’m more inclined to town-read the way he went about interacting with Csargo and Winston, felt townier.
Tim - Makes a very detailed reads-list and attempts to take charge early. Makes high-effort analysis on defending players such as LA. Would be higher but I don’t trust him at all.

Nulls -
Dolby - Dayshielded LA for reasons I don’t quite understand, has cross-examined multiple posts.
BorgPicard - Conforms to own claiming meta, changes up his claim.
pzelda - First post is analysis, I was unable to establish any read based on his posts.
Csargo - Posted too many gifs, has been cross-examining.
Laurentus - Has yet to post. Will likely not post today. He has done this as town and scum.
Nanook - Conforms to own WIL meta.

Scum leans -
Ibn-Khaldun - Makes opportunistic vote to see tie, attacks LA for being anti-town, probably not w/w with LA.
Garden Gnome - Leads with nothing, interaction with Winston feels forced. Complains of lack of information. Opportunistically pushes BorgPicard based on jokes. Made a distancing poke at Winston for voting HK.
Winston - First post is a “Muller” hardclaim, forces players to use google translate, omgus votes Rask. Makes promise to analyze. Spams thread near EoD. Has been pursuing a wolfy playstyle intentionally.

Winston why are you town?

Where are you on pzelda, Tim?

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Winston why are you town?

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The joy.

Unvote
Mainly cause it was a joke vote

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Originally Posted by Winston Hughes

The joy.

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Is this a response or an exclamation?

Vote: Winston
For not answering the simple question.