17er Saints and Martyrs

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Originally Posted by dyachei

ben seems to want to read me as a wolf this game

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I don’t wanna read you any way, it’s just how I’m reading things so far

vote: Enderwiggin


dislike the Arctic turnaround and timing

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Originally Posted by Arctic

umm but seriously speaking

even if the main reason for rask's push is being underwhelming, that's not much better either? because everyone is underwhelming lol. half the list isn't even playing yet. it's a light game and everyone's kinda messing around, so i don't think it makes sense to single you out for this. i also don't know if i'd consider this wolfy for you even if you weren't the only person doing this because i'm used to you kinda doing nothing in turbos on day 1 as town and trying harder as mafia

it did feel like rask was sussing a lot of people - he said he felt meh on you and benneh and sussed me, logic, and murska - that's 5 people, and maybe they aren't fleshed out wolfreads but the implication is still kinda there. and idk i'm just kinda predisposed to wolfread this personally cuz i got off a wolfgame where i kinda did the same game, and "how easy this person is to push" wasn't something i really thought about at this early of a stage, wolves don't need to push everyone they wolfread, they just need to sow the seeds and see what sticks

i have played with logic before yes, once, and i incorrectly suspected him in that game mostly because of the way he spoke in binary/absolute terms and seeming generally awkward in the way he came across, so i haven't found the pushes on him in this game convincing even though i don't townread him either. i said that about rask cuz i thought they were acting in a way that's w/w with logic even though i don't wolfread logic - that is, trying to milk cred for pushing him when he's barely done that (but according to everyone this is just a joke so w/e), and also his last post about me is implying a townread because of a preflip of logic wolf if i understand correctly. so yeah

oh and answering 209 at the same time - wait actually i kinda already answered this, i don't really think you lacking is wolfy because of my experience with you in turbos

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mm okay, i think your expectations of what rask would do as wolf might be off because you’re very comfortable posting a ton and pushing villagers and power wolfing and stuff but i don’t think most wolves are actually like that, and though afaik rask is not a bad wolf i don’t thiiiink he’s that kind of wolf


also ftr i absolutely would not just do nothing D1 in a normal game lol, the reason i don’t really do anything D1 in turbos a lot of the time is cuz lolturbos they’re just a crapshoot mostly. it’s harder to process stuff and make reads i feel good about so quickly when everyone is posting so fast and i don’t have time to read back and think about stuff

i thought that was kinda self evident but ig not lol

if benneh isnt v i will be a sad boi

:end:

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Originally Posted by Zack

if benneh isnt v i will be a sad boi

:end:

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Is this a bad time to mention idk what Asari high command is

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

Is this a bad time to mention idk what Asari high command is

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This is Asari high command.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

hello!

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Originally Posted by Hally

mm okay, i think your expectations of what rask would do as wolf might be off because you’re very comfortable posting a ton and pushing villagers and power wolfing and stuff but i don’t think most wolves are actually like that, and though afaik rask is not a bad wolf i don’t thiiiink he’s that kind of wolf


also ftr i absolutely would not just do nothing D1 in a normal game lol, the reason i don’t really do anything D1 in turbos a lot of the time is cuz lolturbos they’re just a crapshoot mostly. it’s harder to process stuff and make reads i feel good about so quickly when everyone is posting so fast and i don’t have time to read back and think about stuff

i thought that was kinda self evident but ig not lol

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I get that in turbos it's harder to make reads but imo if you have the mindset that you aren't going to force yourself to make reads when there's not much to go off then I think it could easily apply here when most people were shitposting and there wasn't much to go off either, I dunno why it's weird for me to expect you to be tryharding given my experience with you and the state of the game lol. I don't really go after people doing nothing, I go after people being wolfy, this is usually ends up being the reason I either goat or fall flat on my face

and with that said

vote: dyachei

same reason everyone has given

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Originally Posted by Zack

if benneh isnt v i will be a sad boi

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You and him do make "The Towncore of people who sus me."

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

vote: Enderwiggin


dislike the Arctic turnaround and timing

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And I'd do it again.

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

The lack of people appreciating my master bait on GH is sad tbh.

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i love it when you master bait personally

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Originally Posted by Zack

if benneh isnt v i will be a sad boi

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i’ve been mentally slotting you both as villas as kind of a package deal since i started town reading you so if either one of you is a wolf i will simply blame the other for mindmelding with a wolf and getting pocketed like a noob :bow:

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fr though, if there’s a wolf between you guys i think it’s benneh cuz there are points where i do feel like he is kinda regurgitating exactly what you just said and making a point of how much he agrees with you lol

but tbh i think he would also “pocket” you as v/v and i don’t really think he would align with you so hard as w/v unless you’re wrong about everything. don’t fuck up zack :laugh4:

maybe i'm jumping the gun a bit on gemma a bit cuz they haven't done much either but their posts kinda fall between doing nothing / trying to do something and failing

apparently they townread ender for the bait to GH which seemed completely NAI to me and reads more as pockety towards ender, and the general focus on GH over.. anything else just kinda seems wolfy

am i being too uncharitable here? i'm worried i'm just construing normal posting as bad cuz i wanna find something but like i don't really get what they're doing. same applies to dya. both feel like struggly wolf entrances

btw i don't really think ender is a wolf, i think he's kinda playing his all over the place towngame which gets him killed a lot (this is bladescape, right?) and him going back and forth over stuff doesn't really seem calculated to me

ender is like

lowkey villagery

i wanted this to be stronger than it ended up being because i thought i felt something but the logic post and apparently rereading makes all my reads spiral into potatoe or maybe its page 7 things, idk the logic post isnt even that bad

i liked 125 on first pass, i guess he made similar posts to this in the other game where he was wolf (and sure there's an element of self awareness to it where if he's a wolf he wants to get ahead of the sus) but it made me laugh so i v read it

129 i mindmelded with at the time, i had stupid plans to pretend to w read jan at the start of the game then actually got pinged by some of his posts and ohno so ender being on that wavelength feels good maybe especially because incoherent, kind of irrelevant bc its jan but i liekd it anyway

i also generically like the way he ended uip v reading arctic and benneh the individual wreads arent wow amazing sure but the way he got there felt good imo

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

vote: Enderwiggin


dislike the Arctic turnaround and timing

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hum

can you talk about why

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Originally Posted by Zack

just to be clear, ender's post was bad because it was dismissive and felt disingenuous in an agenda'd / trying to control the narrative kind of way / suggesting my read was fallacious and bad but without pushing or suspecting me

it's just the kind of post where i read it and immediately think wow, a wolf probably made this post

i dont care if someone townreads logic or doesnt wanna kill him, i mean whatever it's like a quarter into day people dont need to agree with me

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nice im terrible

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Originally Posted by Gemma

nice im terrible

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uh

you saying you didnt like that ender post and bringing it up again is what prompted me to make that post

:inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by Gemma

ender is like

lowkey villagery

i wanted this to be stronger than it ended up being because i thought i felt something but the logic post and apparently rereading makes all my reads spiral into potatoe or maybe its page 7 things, idk the logic post isnt even that bad

i liked 125 on first pass, i guess he made similar posts to this in the other game where he was wolf (and sure there's an element of self awareness to it where if he's a wolf he wants to get ahead of the sus) but it made me laugh so i v read it

129 i mindmelded with at the time, i had stupid plans to pretend to w read jan at the start of the game then actually got pinged by some of his posts and ohno so ender being on that wavelength feels good maybe especially because incoherent, kind of irrelevant bc its jan but i liekd it anyway

i also generically like the way he ended uip v reading arctic and benneh the individual wreads arent wow amazing sure but the way he got there felt good imo

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i don’t understand this post

not even as in i think it’s wolfy, i just don’t really understand what you’re trying to say

wdym you were going to pretend to wolf read jan? why lol

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Vote: Arctic

Okay I actually take back my earlier read

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???

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Originally Posted by Hally

oh another thing, he talked a bunch about how rask was reading me but i don’t think he actually gave any thoughts on my posts besides that rask was wrong to call them pockety? tbh i kinda expected arctic would also think i was #lacking because he only knows me from turbos where he thinks i’m one of the strongest villagers and i wasn’t really posting like a strong villager which i feel like should have concerned him?

idk i might be wildin about this cuz people don’t seem to agree, would appreciate people talking about it esp the people that town read him

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Nah you are right

Rask is a villager and artic push on them felt super malicious

And not beacause rask is a villager, the reasoning just feels way off...rask is a wolf for fosing a lot of people? Cmn friendo thats not a real reason

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Originally Posted by Gemma

hum

can you talk about why

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Feels like it aligns with a kind of wave of anti-Arctic sentiment that arrived around that time that makes it feel opportunistic and whereas hally has fleshed out a read/reason to find Arctic wolfy I just don’t get that sense with ender that it’s that deep and more just idk, wish washy in a way

plus the earlier thing about logic

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Originally Posted by ladd

Nah you are right

Rask is a villager and artic push on them felt super malicious

And not beacause rask is a villager, the reasoning just feels way off...rask is a wolf for fosing a lot of people? Cmn friendo thats not a real reason

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omd that was a tangential reason for sussing them T_T
good morning to you too

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Originally Posted by Zack

uh

you saying you didnt like that ender post and bringing it up again is what prompted me to make that post

:inquisitive:

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yes

but i also just finished trying to articulate a v read on him

so your saying things that make sense doesnt exactly help my soul

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Originally Posted by ladd

Nah you are right

Rask is a villager and artic push on them felt super malicious

And not beacause rask is a villager, the reasoning just feels way off...rask is a wolf for fosing a lot of people? Cmn friendo thats not a real reason

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wolfchat sent the ladd signal eh

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Originally Posted by Arctic

omd that was a tangential reason for sussing them T_T
good morning to you too

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Hallo

it just felt real forced while i was catching uo, maybe ill re read the exchange better later (or maybe not)


Syn feels super different from all their other org games and they were a villager in all of them so uh not a good sign

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Originally Posted by Zack

wolfchat sent the ladd signal eh

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Gh told me you were grilling logic and to come bring down the shield on him

:curtain:

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Originally Posted by Hally

i don’t understand this post

not even as in i think it’s wolfy, i just don’t really understand what you’re trying to say

wdym you were going to pretend to wolf read jan? why lol

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idk i come up with weird ways to try to amuse myself / others lol

what dont u understand tho

open spreadsheet

shift ladd from null to the kinda wolfy column

close spreadsheet

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"SUPER malicious" (not really)

"SUPER different" (he seems like normal syn 2 me lol)

emphasis mine, i put super in all caps so it looks even worse

:holmes:

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Originally Posted by ladd

Nah you are right

Rask is a villager and artic push on them felt super malicious

And not beacause rask is a villager, the reasoning just feels way off...rask is a wolf for fosing a lot of people? Cmn friendo thats not a real reason

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well i was starting to think i was completely dumb cuz nobody acknowledged it but i feel better now lol

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inb4 ladd wolf :cantlook:

if zack isnt v i will be a sad boi

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Originally Posted by Zack

open spreadsheet

shift ladd from null to the kinda wolfy column

close spreadsheet

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"SUPER malicious" (not really)

"SUPER different" (he seems like normal syn 2 me lol)

emphasis mine, i put super in all caps so it looks even worse

:holmes:

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Iamindanger.jpg

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Originally Posted by ladd

Gh told me you were grilling logic and to come bring down the shield on him

:curtain:

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this is such a villa gh post that I am genuinely considering dropping the shield

especially sicne Newcomb/lissa havent really posted well

but regardless of everyone alignments i really don't think we should kill gh

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Originally Posted by Hally

well i was starting to think i was completely dumb cuz nobody acknowledged it but i feel better now lol

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inb4 ladd wolf :cantlook:

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If it makes you feel less dumb i also think you could be a wolf despite you making 99% good posts

Now thats dumb (of me)

:curtain:

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Originally Posted by ladd

If it makes you feel less dumb i also think you could be a wolf despite you making 99% good posts

Now thats dumb (of me)

:curtain:

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why?

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Originally Posted by ladd

If it makes you feel less dumb i also think you could be a wolf despite you making 99% good posts

Now thats dumb (of me)

:curtain:

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wow i really am going to F3

feelsbadman

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Originally Posted by ladd

Syn feels super different from all their other org games and they were a villager in all of them so uh not a good sign

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https://i.imgur.com/oOJEmzM.png

vote: EnderWiggin

Its mostly due to this post:

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Originally Posted by Hally

i keep clicking gh’s spoilers thinking it will be something and then it’s the same fuckin joke every time :stare:

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When speed reading through the game this is by far the post that gave me more "posting to fit in the shitposting phase" vibe

Idk it just felt fake coming from hally


Afaict their other posts are all fine but this one has really stuck with me for some reason lol

ngl man your reason for saying you thought hally was a wolf "despite making 99% good posts" seems pretty fake

i dont want to tunnel ladd or anything but yeah whew this re-entrance is a doozy

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Originally Posted by Syn

https://i.imgur.com/oOJEmzM.png

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lock v never rescinding btw

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Originally Posted by ladd

Its mostly due to this post:


When speed reading through the game this is by far the post that gave me more "posting to fit in the shitposting phase" vibe

Idk it just felt fake coming from hally


Afaict their other posts are all fine but this one has really stuck with me for some reason lol

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this is certainly a read of all time

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Good, you clicked through this spoiler. This isn't actually Asari high command. They're too busy tending to what's left of their planet.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

:curtain:

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Originally Posted by Zack

ngl man your reason for saying you thought hally was a wolf "despite making 99% good posts" seems pretty fake

i dont want to tunnel ladd or anything but yeah whew this re-entrance is a doozy



lock v never rescinding btw

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Now ill go back to sleep so you cant legally tunnel me

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Originally Posted by Hally

well i was starting to think i was completely dumb cuz nobody acknowledged it but i feel better now lol

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inb4 ladd wolf :cantlook:

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if it helps i didnt hate ur post hally

i just didnt really feel storngly about any of it

the w/w stuff specifically is whatever to me i think you're more likely to just confibias yourself than anything but you do you

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Originally Posted by Syn

vote: EnderWiggin

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why tho

mfw i’m one of the top posters and the only two reads people have given on me are that i seem blendy and an NAI post i made in rvs is the one that sticks out the most as opposed to any of the ones where i actually try to solve the game

guess i should have stayed retired lmfao

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Originally Posted by Hally

mfw i’m one of the top posters and the only two reads people have given on me are that i seem blendy and an NAI post i made in rvs is the one that sticks out the most as opposed to any of the ones where i actually try to solve the game

guess i should have stayed retired lmfao

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it's 13.5 hours into a 48 hour day 1

r e l a x

~:smoking:

hum

the water coming out of tap is brown

???

çwhy this

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Originally Posted by Zack

it's 13.5 hours into a 48 hour day 1

r e l a x

~:smoking:

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…ngl i was thinking the day was already half over, that’s why i haven’t been conserving posts at all lol

not used to a 48/24 starting morning my time. anti-america oppression in action :smg:

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Originally Posted by Hally

mfw i’m one of the top posters and the only two reads people have given on me are that i seem blendy and an NAI post i made in rvs is the one that sticks out the most as opposed to any of the ones where i actually try to solve the game

guess i should have stayed retired lmfao

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hugs, i v read you im sure other people do too and just havent bothered saying so

im glad you're here!

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Originally Posted by Jan

Talking about Saints and Sinners Martyrs ..

What is everyone's favourite Nicolas Cage movie and why?

Doesn't need to be the best. Best is a kind of boring answer when talking about such a wonderful actor.

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I like Cage. Can I jsut say the worst one? Willy's Wonderland

oh righjt you exist

hi hello welcome

i miss jan

https://i.imgur.com/ORxzGUO.jpeg

There are a lot of words on this page I didn't read.

I did catch that Dya called GH a villager. I came to the same conclusion via different means. I think by now he would have broached the subject of Traitors on Peacock if he were a wolf, if only to apologize that he hadn't gotten to it yet

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Originally Posted by Gemma

hum

the water coming out of tap is brown

???

çwhy this

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Probably rusty pipes.

Does it ever turn clear? If so, how long do you have to run the water before it turns clear?

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Originally Posted by Logic

Probably rusty pipes.

Does it ever turn clear? If so, how long do you have to run the water before it turns clear?

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no the water heater just btroked its happneed before

cold water clear thankfully

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Originally Posted by Logic

There are a lot of words on this page I didn't read.

I did catch that Dya called GH a villager. I came to the same conclusion via different means. I think by now he would have broached the subject of Traitors on Peacock if he were a wolf, if only to apologize that he hadn't gotten to it yet

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i was about to swap my vote to visor but now the dogged detrermination has set in >:[

i alos have no idea if this is a real read or not lol

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Originally Posted by ladd

Gh told me you were grilling logic and to come bring down the shield on him

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GH of all people should know that's a losing proposition.

Either that's one hell of a meta joke, or...
You really are wolf-bros with GH...

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Originally Posted by Gemma

i was about to swap my vote to visor but now the dogged detrermination has set in >:[

i alos have no idea if this is a real read or not lol

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100% gin-u-win

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Originally Posted by Gemma

oh righjt you exist

hi hello welcome

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rescinded btw

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Originally Posted by Gemma

no the water heater just btroked its happneed before

cold water clear thankfully

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If you are the homeowner, a purge and clean is probably the cheapest solution.

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

Is this a bad time to mention idk what Asari high command is

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Do you want us to leave you in the dark?

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Originally Posted by Logic

If you are the homeowner, a purge and clean is probably the cheapest solution.

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im not but thanks i will remember for my next life where i still have a mortgage from this one

it probably broke because its a thousand degrees outside

I have already conflated Zack and visor (currently slightly sus to me)
and also Gemma and Enderwiggan. (Light town)

I don't think the org is all that mobile friendly. Lol

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Originally Posted by Gemma

im not but thanks i will remember for my next life where i still have a mortgage from this one

it probably broke because its a thousand degrees outside

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I am something of a handyman; after the game I can probably talk you through how to do almost any kind of home maintenance. Even fixing a water heater, despite the hot outside weather.
(Are you in the UK? I recently learned they do hot water differently there)

meesa livin in australia, and oh boy i am here for the handyman talk

im hopeless at that sort of thing (and dislike that i am)

wdym conflating zack and visor

whats your zack sus i v read them for shitting opinions into thread ish

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Originally Posted by Logic

I have already conflated Zack and visor (currently slightly sus to me)
and also Gemma and Enderwiggan. (Light town)

I don't think the org is all that mobile friendly. Lol

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Are you wolf reading/town reading both heads of these pairs or just the latter halves

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Originally Posted by Gemma

meesa livin in australia, and oh boy i am here for the handyman talk

im hopeless at that sort of thing (and dislike that i am)

wdym conflating zack and visor

whats your zack sus i v read them for shitting opinions into thread ish

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I often can't remember that visit and Zack are different people with different opinions until I see the two of them side by side

I just reread page one (max ppp here on the org) and realized that visor posted just once in all that time, so at some point something Zack said I had attributedto visor.

Zack (and also visor) is one of the people I expect to read me better, so there is that. But he has been legitimately wrong on me before, so it's not a golden rule. I'll spare the golden rule for now, as I don't want to put undue pressure on anyone just yet.

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

Are you wolf reading/town reading both heads of these pairs or just the latter halves

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If you'll see my previous post, for Zack and visor, it's because I often can't tell them apart. Rereading page 1 has me separating the two a tad, as I'm null reading visor as being lazy for now. Zack is only getting minor points below null, but I'll let him simmer more.

Ender and Gemma are conflated into towny because my brain is thinking their avatars look alike, and I'm forgetting who said what.

I'm off to bed as it's nearly 10 PM here.

HMU with any of your Logic takes and I'll answer them in the morning.

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Originally Posted by Gemma

why tho

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he called me based

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Originally Posted by Logic

If you'll see my previous post, for Zack and visor, it's because I often can't tell them apart. Rereading page 1 has me separating the two a tad, as I'm null reading visor as being lazy for now. Zack is only getting minor points below null, but I'll let him simmer more.

Ender and Gemma are conflated into towny because my brain is thinking their avatars look alike, and I'm forgetting who said what.

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https://media.tenor.com/RTjqRxryYSkA...-wait-what.gif

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Originally Posted by Syn

he called me based

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ur based

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Originally Posted by Logic

If you'll see my previous post, for Zack and visor, it's because I often can't tell them apart. Rereading page 1 has me separating the two a tad, as I'm null reading visor as being lazy for now. Zack is only getting minor points below null, but I'll let him simmer more.

Ender and Gemma are conflated into towny because my brain is thinking their avatars look alike, and I'm forgetting who said what.

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….

what

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Originally Posted by Gemma

ur based

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:((

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Originally Posted by Logic

Zack (and also visor) is one of the people I expect to read me better, so there is that. But he has been legitimately wrong on me before, so it's not a golden rule.

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Genuine question - when?

You said this pretty definitively ("legitimately wrong") but I'm not sure what you're referring to tbh.

Can we lynch scum tonight guys.

I'm finally home, semi-naked, laptop resting on my moist, muscular thighs, ready to up my game by 14.6%.


GH's ISO next...

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Originally Posted by Logic

I often can't remember that visit and Zack are different people with different opinions until I see the two of them side by side

I just reread page one (max ppp here on the org) and realized that visor posted just once in all that time, so at some point something Zack said I had attributedto visor.

Zack (and also visor) is one of the people I expect to read me better, so there is that. But he has been legitimately wrong on me before, so it's not a golden rule. I'll spare the golden rule for now, as I don't want to put undue pressure on anyone just yet.

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i don't like making this read as i think it just reinforces shitty play

but i think logic going straight to the "expect to read me better" might be villagery

Vote: GH

:curtain:

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

I soulread Visor villa out of his sole post (fr)

Think folks like Arctic, Murska, and Logic had a meh opening for different reasons I won't be bother to type (also some of you have stressed potential pings). Murska being overly defensive and serious at this point of the game.

Benneh and Hally also meh but I guess it's not a D1 issue (unless :curtain:). Hally feels a bit too much willing to blend in or pocket I dunno. will see I feel about this one l8r.

Zack is awesome :curtain:

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villagery use of multiple curtains

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Originally Posted by Arctic

i feel like if there's anyone bussing logic it's you
where have you decisively pushed him lol? the first time you mentioned him was agreeing with zack's sus on him and then you said he had a "meh" opening

vote: Raskolnikov

i dunno man this is like strike 3 for weirdness

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wolfy post m'lord

I don't claim to be some Logic god-reader, mostly because I wouldn't claim that about anyone

1. people can and do change [insert sloppy steaks gif]

2. I've played so infrequently over the last few years that it would be silly for me to claim 100% accurate knowledge of someone's play and my ability to read it

3. I generally dislike appeal to authority / trust me bro reads anyway. if I think I have a good read then I should be able to convince you by explaining why it's good on its own merits.

But I truthfully have no idea what Logic is referring to here, I don't think I have actually been wrong on him in a game before (or at least not in the way being implied) but it's a relatively small sample size. Maybe he is remembering someone else doing that and mistakenly attributing it to me. Maybe I'm forgetting some game from years ago I was wrong, I dunno. Calling me suspicious because I should read you better (what posts are you making that i should townread you for anyway? most charitably it's a bunch of d1 fluffposting) and in the same breath implying my read carries little weight because it's unreliable is kind of incredible, and does make me a bit dubious about the genuineness of your read on me.

I guess it doesn't really matter, but the way it was presented rubbed me the wrong way and didn't seem on the level.

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I'd say benneh and Jan are the closest things I have to a townread, I've generally liked their posts and where and how they've poked.

Arctic/Gemma/Hally/Murska/Rask/Syn is this big pile of people I think are ~fine but have no true read on.

GH, Vanta, Visor, and Wisdom are true null, none have really done anything readable.

Ender and ladd seem a bit wolfy, I've already touched on this some for each and am far too lazy to repeat myself. Basically they've just made posts that made me go "oh, I didn't like that" / seemed like agenda pushing rather than genuine thoughts.

dya's posts honestly just seemed rough to me and felt reminiscent of their wolf game, they didn't do much other than the GH read which I disliked. Their response to me felt like trying to get me off their back, I thought the post about benneh wanting them to be a wolf was weird. Still plenty of time but yeah.

I've already talked about Logic a good amount, but if they're a villager I dont get what he's doing because he looks how he plays when he's a wolf so far. Posts feel forced and missing the purposefulness behind his solving when he's town. His suspicion on me just doesn't feel real ngl, it's also kind of incoherent and confusing which is not something I associate with him as a villager at all. Again, plenty of time to change and I think Logic is usually a fairly obvious villager once he gets going, so we'll see, but early signs not looking croggers.

Should be everyone, any gaps in my reasoning assume the answer for why I feel that way is "vibes".

Out for awhile.

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