Tarot Mafia

(um and i wanna point out it also doesnt matter to me, i didn't policy vote him for lacking, i don't really care about that, i just found the post wolfy.)

Anyway. I'm off to a late Aussie bedtime.

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(I'm somehow top poster with 26 posts so go me!)

Grr probably town for

(Lol I just opened my phone and this was there and I don't remember why but I found it funny so here you go)

Oh yeah for going at newcomb, nevermind that it's a stupid read

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

Grr probably town for

(Lol I just opened my phone and this was there and I don't remember why but I found it funny so here you go)

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wolfy popout m'lord

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Originally Posted by Jan

Feels?
I think cobalt as wolf would commit to the read and give a reason and not end with

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@Jan why?

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Originally Posted by ColonelLubriderm

have no desire to yeet into the oblivion:
cobalt



sheep- basically didnt like the stett read

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@ColonelLubriderm

could you go into these a bit more?
what about c0balt do you have as towny?
ik you acknowledge the sheep thing is just agreeing with what others said, but can you explain why it pinged *you* ?

b/c frankly, i think its a really awkward point of attack and think it was more natural than other early TRs on me. wolves aren't srsly gonna "lockclear" a town post 1, espec a town they probs don't want to waste an nk on. think the reasoning others have expressed is pretty weak here, so i'd like to hear yours.

Vote: nebjiamn

2/5 nice

Grr is tiny SL rn, but his alignment is probs obvious by eod

I’m not vibing with wisdom’s posts at all yet, but wanna see if that’s just dif perspective or if its indicative of alignment stuff.

Arctic is odd. His posts kinda sound like voice notes turned into text. Idk what that means, maybe town?

Gemma town, ender town, insomnia town

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Originally Posted by didistetter

@Jan why?

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Not all that cobalt specific tbh.

Villagers are more off the cuff and more likely to underexplain while wolves are ready to (over)explain and their pushes are more calculated.

Saying less leaves you open for scrutiny.

And I don't think Cobalt as a wolf wants to get bad heat early (which is where the read gets back to being somewhat cobalt-specific).
His biggest weakness is not getting a foot in the door of the village from my limited (and outdated) pov which can result in flaking.
Once he gets a grip on the game/state he has an easier time staying within the group.

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Originally Posted by sheepsaysmeep

I think the answer to this is sorta like, I had been approaching this start-of-game maybe like a turbo game of mafia. my brain is just auto-filtering posts like I think that's a scummy post, that's a towny post. I think other people have been similarly going "this person is towny btw" and I just subconsciously didn't really value those explanations rn yet.. idk. THat's what my TKON vote was originally supposed to be; like "I scrolled through a couple times and he felt scummy, and off the top of my head I wouldnt be sure why." but then stett asked me, and I was like sure I will rewind and try to get into why I didn't like him, this seems fun / interesting and I am free right now

I think if this was a turbo mafia game I would probably be pushing TKON after that much because simply "I didn't feel those things, so I think his thoughts are more likely fake than real" and that's the extent of it

Or, I guess, I also just sorta did became able to see why someone would find dya's post wolfy (after looking at it again and considering insomnia could see it too). hence I re-framed it right after-"I fel like his thoughts are surface level 'ok fine' but my gut didnt believe he believe them". I admit now I can see why someone would prob say dya's post is scummy, so that is not really a question I have, I just really did not feel it when I was reading which is slightly slightly >rand scum because it is just >rand not real for page 2

like my newly reformed take is in a way abt opportunism.. surface-level I can see why dya's post would seem scummy (I assume I sorta get what TKON's thinking was) but as a villager in this game I didn't see it at all, so maybe it's scummy to hop onto that seemingly logically fine take. the stett thing (taking stett's towny spoiler and then treating that nugget differently from me) is kinda similar.

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what on earth

Gemma, do u have reads aorn?

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Originally Posted by didistetter

Vote: nebjiamn

2/5 nice

Grr is tiny SL rn, but his alignment is probs obvious by eod

I’m not vibing with wisdom’s posts at all yet, but wanna see if that’s just dif perspective or if its indicative of alignment stuff.

Arctic is odd. His posts kinda sound like voice notes turned into text. Idk what that means, maybe town?

Gemma town, ender town, insomnia town

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why gemma? I vaguely agree with the other 2.on the same line.

For gemma I only really remember loose questioning which sounds great but meant nothing to me.
It is the minimum hurdle of competence as either alignment.

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Gemma, do u have reads aorn?

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sup

nothing spicy hbu

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Originally Posted by Jan

For gemma I only really remember loose questioning which sounds great

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wow and here i was trying to so hard to sound wooden

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Originally Posted by Jan

Not all that cobalt specific tbh.

Villagers are more off the cuff and more likely to underexplain while wolves are ready to (over)explain and their pushes are more calculated.

Saying less leaves you open for scrutiny.

And I don't think Cobalt as a wolf wants to get bad heat early (which is where the read gets back to being somewhat cobalt-specific).
His biggest weakness is not getting a foot in the door of the village from my limited (and outdated) pov which can result in flaking.
Once he gets a grip on the game/state he has an easier time staying within the group.

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Yes, I like seeing people post about my meta because it makes me feel noticed and important.

Carry on.

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Originally Posted by ladd

Newcomb is my top villa read

Should be a fun game :curtain:

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Originally Posted by ladd

I am more or less at this


Sheep posts wrt knights pinged me a bit about wanting it TOO much, like in some places it seemed like it started from the assumption

E.g. i think dya opening is neutral--> knkghts pushing it is wolfy

Idk i find the confidence and reasoning of his knights read a bit backwards (starts frkm knights wolf and thrn justifies it)

But (here comes the hedge eheh) when i used to play woth sheep like 3-4 years ago i mislunched them a bunch so ya



Surprised knigts has no read on sheep push on them tbh

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it's a little ego-y but I think i'm gonna townread ladd for this; I think the threadstate thing I posted before going to bed is one of those things that only crystalizes with a certain amount of experience and especially its relevance only really sticks out if you're thinking about the game in a certain way. Not that that way is explicitly good or the right way to play or anything, i'm really contorting my arm to avoid patting myself on the back here. But basically like, thinking about the game in terms of overall mafia archtypes and what kind of game it feels like compared to the breadth of your mafia experience, that is something it makes sense for ladd to recognize and then vibe with.

And in running the mental cross check for pocketing and TMI I don't like... exclude it categorically but it definitely feels more in the goldilocks zone than not.

I also think if that's actually a pocket w!ladd attempt I'm not sure he could resist a subtle prop or jab at the accuracy of the "0-1 wolves" thing? That's maybe stretching the mental map of ladd a bit too far to be comfortable. Feels right though.

cobalt's meta is

but ymmv

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Originally Posted by C0balt

jk

his line of questioning towards you just looks really pure from a solving standpoint / mindset

he has a couple posts like that

which seems like regular degular town newcomb to me

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now this I don't like as much

the second line feels like something you just throw in to add the appearance of depth without there being any real consideration

As I'm typing this though I'm recognizing that there's perhaps a bit of "townreading someone who townreads you is such a goober thing to do off the bat" that i'm reflexively doing the opposite to prove to myself i'm not a chump

gonna let this one marinate

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Originally Posted by Gemma

https://media.tenor.com/1OyMY4nvcp0A...nherdmlike.gif

sup

nothing spicy hbu

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Damn u lazy patate. Just pings on the knight and sheep but rn i cant remember why smh. I wouldnt be surprised if the one TRing Benneh flips wolf though. Think I have asked about it, will prolly cast a vote once I sober up a bit. Syns post is OK (lmao this read), will reevaluate when he gets up. Ender is OK for D1 on tone only.

Grrr looks a bit odd to me rn, not sure what he saw on Newcomb (but this vote got my attention, curious about any follow up).

Pretty much it

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

part of me wants to inform newcomb ive played like 2 games in the last year or two and will be absolutely zero help with translating for people

other part of me wants to just fake it so i can vibe with newcomb for a bit

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i'm cool with it

Who is Sett?

you can just make something up and i'll never know until I get hella confused on D3

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Originally Posted by Newcomb

it's a little ego-y but I think i'm gonna townread ladd for this; I think the threadstate thing I posted before going to bed is one of those things that only crystalizes with a certain amount of experience and especially its relevance only really sticks out if you're thinking about the game in a certain way. Not that that way is explicitly good or the right way to play or anything, i'm really contorting my arm to avoid patting myself on the back here. But basically like, thinking about the game in terms of overall mafia archtypes and what kind of game it feels like compared to the breadth of your mafia experience, that is something it makes sense for ladd to recognize and then vibe with.

And in running the mental cross check for pocketing and TMI I don't like... exclude it categorically but it definitely feels more in the goldilocks zone than not.

I also think if that's actually a pocket w!ladd attempt I'm not sure he could resist a subtle prop or jab at the accuracy of the "0-1 wolves" thing? That's maybe stretching the mental map of ladd a bit too far to be comfortable. Feels right though.

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My problem with it that I agree that you can have the feeling of "the thread is villagery right now" during a somewhat limited timeframe.

Appyling this to 14/22 people when nobody has more than 10 posts is why it felt weird and fake to me reading it afterwards.

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Originally Posted by Maple

Based on the first 6 words of each paragraph, this is probably a wolf

I will not be taking questions at this time

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I fucking hate that I like this

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Originally Posted by Jan

My problem with it that I agree that you can have the feeling of "the thread is villagery right now" during a somewhat limited timeframe.

Appyling this to 14/22 people when nobody has more than 10 posts is why it felt weird and fake to me reading it afterwards.

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Had 14 people really posted when I went to bed? I thought it was like 8. If that's true i'm probably wrong just on sheer odds.

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Originally Posted by Newcomb

i'm really contorting my arm to avoid patting myself on the back here

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https://media.tenor.com/YqpRlAhh6JUA...n-laughing.gif

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Originally Posted by Newcomb

Had 14 people really posted when I went to bed? I thought it was like 8. If that's true i'm probably wrong just on sheer odds.

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I went back and did a headcount so yes.

dyachei
Didistetter
Vanta Black
nebjiamn
Sunbae
Ladd
Gemma
insomnia
Syn
ColonelLubriderm
Newcomb
Theknightsofneeee
C0balt
sheepsaysmeep

had posted at the time.
I don't call your take weird without doing the legwork. :P

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Damn u lazy patate. Just pings on the knight and sheep but rn i cant remember why smh. I wouldnt be surprised if the one TRing Benneh flips wolf though. Think I have asked about it, will prolly cast a vote once I sober up a bit. Syns post is OK (lmao this read), will reevaluate when he gets up. Ender is OK for D1 on tone only.

Grrr looks a bit odd to me rn, not sure what he saw on Newcomb (but this vote got my attention, curious about any follow up).

Pretty much it

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i page 1 v read sheep for posting a bunch of nonsense

wym benneh tr

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Originally Posted by Jan

I went back and did a headcount so yes.

dyachei
Didistetter
Vanta Black
nebjiamn
Sunbae
Ladd
Gemma
insomnia
Syn
ColonelLubriderm
Newcomb
Theknightsofneeee
C0balt
sheepsaysmeep

had posted at the time.
I don't call your take weird without doing the legwork. :P

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Respect the effort, I'm way too lazy these days to check you.

Vanta black and Syn are the two names that stick out on that list as like "no fucking way", like yeah I believe you but it must have been literally a 1-sentence popin. And what gemma's doing is not actually posting.

Felt like less, is my point

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Originally Posted by Newcomb

Respect the effort, I'm way too lazy these days to check you.

Vanta black and Syn are the two names that stick out on that list as like "no fucking way", like yeah I believe you but it must have been literally a 1-sentence popin. And what gemma's doing is not actually posting.

Felt like less, is my point

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It just takes 20 seconds of crossing names on a list and the amount of early cred you get from it gives you more time to nap later!

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Originally Posted by Newcomb

what gemma's doing is not actually posting.

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Originally Posted by insomnia

i guess another thing i feel like bringing up is that newcomb feels too chummy to me. but it's a bad thing to say cuz it opens up for interpretation and also if he's villa i don't want him to think he needs to play some sort of way (ofc he wouldn't / shouldn't even warp his posting just to not be wolfread by me or anyone), but it definitely caught my eye. didn't wanna say anything cuz i reckon it's easier to tell with him once he just doesn't pound wolves with logic that opens up your third eye or something

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why'd you say it at all then?

don't throw rocks and hide your hands now

say it with your chest

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Originally Posted by Gemma

i page 1 v read sheep for posting a bunch of nonsense

wym benneh tr

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I mean someone ended him a TR that felt leaking TMI. Will check l8r once on comp and I run out of cocktails (not rn lmao)

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

I mean someone ended him a TR that felt leaking TMI. Will check l8r once on comp and I run out of cocktails (not rn lmao)

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Handed. God phonetic spelling

Sunbae/jan/newcomb seems like a fun d1 masonry

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Originally Posted by ladd

Sunbae/jan/newcomb seems like a fun d1 masonry

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poor benneh

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Originally Posted by didistetter

@ColonelLubriderm

could you go into these a bit more?
what about c0balt do you have as towny?
ik you acknowledge the sheep thing is just agreeing with what others said, but can you explain why it pinged *you* ?

b/c frankly, i think its a really awkward point of attack and think it was more natural than other early TRs on me. wolves aren't srsly gonna "lockclear" a town post 1, espec a town they probs don't want to waste an nk on. think the reasoning others have expressed is pretty weak here, so i'd like to hear yours.

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I read it completely opposite of you and found his the least natural. You say he wasnt seriously lock clearing you but he literally said in the same post he wasnt joking and the following post he resaid he had one confirmed town(sure they may have been being hyperbolic in the confidence but the read i believe is real). To me it read like a wolf sheeping a read on someone they felt was(or was going to be) threadspewed villa.

During my readthrough this morning that was what i was thinking and i agreed with cobalt when he said that he didnt like sheeps post which in turn made me kind of like cobalt.

so i was thinking when this game started that i was just gonna shitpost and sheep jan and hope he rolled villa.

This might be the way

I really should stop playing on phone why am I like this.

Apparently all but Monte has posted but it feels like I missed half the playerlist.

The way Ender solves through relaxing and vibing is something that I associate with his town game.

On the other side, Cobalt seems a bit stiff and forced. For some reason his post on this page, about him liking people talking about him, wasn't in his ISO (I'm going insane). It felt real though.

Rask... for some reason I expected him to be more hype than he's shown so far, but I know that he really didn't want to rand wolf this game and I'd think he'd put more effort into seeming solvy than he's done so he's probably town anyway.

I'm a bit worried about Syn's approach to the game but I think his "threadstate is pure" post shows a towny mindset. @Raskolnikov I think you know why I'm worried, can you explain why you instantly locked him town?

Newcomb/Ladd is unlikely w/w and I feel like I agree with everything they say even when I don't. So, hopefully both are town and shouldn't be too hard to find them if they're alive wolves in later game.

Jan is still town. Retracting town leans on Sheep and Stett for the time being.

Unvote

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Originally Posted by Newcomb

why'd you say it at all then?

don't throw rocks and hide your hands now

say it with your chest

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when sunbae says something that you spotted, you can't help but agree with him. otherwise i would've waited more :P

i can type out in a lot more detail what i thought was wolfy about you, but until im not sure, i probably won't

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Originally Posted by Arctic

insomnia's post has me feeling things

idk how to describe it but basically this first happened after i read sunbae's post about newcomb and knights and i started formulating a weird kind of net of associations around cobalt/knights/sheep and realizing that if i'm wrong on sheep then he's probably town and one of the other two is more likely to have a wolf and like even though i lean on it being sheep i don't think the other worlds are that unlikely so they're kinda just existing in my mind as alternate options

this ties into insomnia's post cuz it's like. suggesting the alternate reality to the one i think is most likely. but i still townread it. it feels like he's having reasonable thoughts on those posts but i just disagree on which is the most likely world, but not enough for me to care about the fact we disagree. cuz, i mean y'all probably won't believe me but in my catch up post i originally had the same thought about how c0balt may have inadvertently been TMI'ing stett by accusing sheep of doing that because while i agree with the sheep sus that being the reason feels like more of a wolf accusation. soz this sounds hella hedgy but the point i want to convey is that i townread insomnia's post even though i had different takeaways cuz i can kinda see those options if i'm wrong, so having those thoughts is just as easily town indicative

the part about dya was super towny regardless

this post was so bad but im sending it anyway lmao

also hi IH :3

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good lord

Okay you're not the only one doing it i'm not talking to just you here, and high chance I come off as old man yelling at clouds, but goddamn some of you need to activate the editor brain and not just the writer brain.

I'm all for stream of consciousness and i'm a big advocate that making your thoughts clear and your process transparent is a great thing to do in mafia games, but good lord.

Some of y'all are giving multiple paragraphs to thoughts that are really not complex enough to warrant it

again, to be clear, not talking directly to you, there are a couple lyrical miracle posters ITT.

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Originally Posted by ColonelLubriderm

so i was thinking when this game started that i was just gonna shitpost and sheep jan and hope he rolled villa.

This might be the way

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Why would anyone sheep me?
I agree with everything else.

I am slowly crawling through lowtier maps on my lvl 73 gladiator in ruthless mode.
I only have a single support gem so far.

My life is pain and misery.

(we can maybe make a sheep train where I just have to find someone else to sheep and then you can sheep me. we will see)

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Originally Posted by ColonelLubriderm

I read it completely opposite of you and found his the least natural. You say he wasnt seriously lock clearing you but he literally said in the same post he wasnt joking and the following post he resaid he had one confirmed town(sure they may have been being hyperbolic in the confidence but the read i believe is real). To me it read like a wolf sheeping a read on someone they felt was(or was going to be) threadspewed villa.

During my readthrough this morning that was what i was thinking and i agreed with cobalt when he said that he didnt like sheeps post which in turn made me kind of like cobalt.

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Villagery post


I dont really get the hate on wisdom tbh, they seem to be posting like normal wisdom afaict

Sunbae post wrt knights/newcomb is 1) villagery and 2) i doubt he shades newcomb after newcomb basically gave him green light to pocket them. Alas sunbae is probabky a villager


Jan seems like his obvious villager self

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Originally Posted by Jan

Why would anyone sheep me?
I agree with everything else.

I am slowly crawling through lowtier maps on my lvl 73 gladiator in ruthless mode.
I only have a single support gem so far.

My life is pain and misery.

(we can maybe make a sheep train where I just have to find someone else to sheep and then you can sheep me. we will see)

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archmage ice nova is the way

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Oh yeah this is town thought I will fight anyone who disagrees.

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is sheep actually the most contentious overall read ITT right now?

that is interesting not in italics

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Originally Posted by ladd

Villagery post


I dont really get the hate on wisdom tbh, they seem to be posting like normal wisdom afaict

Sunbae post wrt knights/newcomb is 1) villagery and 2) i doubt he shades newcomb after newcomb basically gave him green light to pocket them. Alas sunbae is probabky a villager


Jan seems like his obvious villager self

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I gift you a dayvig that expires in 1 minute

shot?

Gods I vibe with Newcomb so hard I need someone to call out unreadable walls in every game!

i think jan is just town. he's vibing this game, feels like

he also hasnt posted a bunch of gifs yet

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Originally Posted by Newcomb

I gift you a dayvig that expires in 1 minute

shot?

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i'd probably kill like syn cause i am boring




but the players i am most intrigued by right now are knights/benneh/sheep

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Originally Posted by ladd

i'd probably kill like syn cause i am boring




but the players i am most intrigued by right now are knights/benneh/sheep

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knights did have a kind of awkward intro; whoever pointed that out, think it was rask or ender maybe, I vibe with it. didn't stick out like a sore thumb but on readback, the shoe fits for the token awkward thread entrance d1 wolf. Not a glass slipper, but at least a pair of crocs.

Talk to me about benneh; apologies if I missed it, i'm catching up and also f5'ing the thread as I do

(to be clear i am not convinced syn is a wolf as of this post)


i villa read sunbae/colonel(bop)/newcomb/jan/stetter pretty confidently


then i have a bunch of people who i have no strong reads on (some i admit i have just skimmed over their posts and will read them later)


then sheep/knights imo has 1 exactly 1 wolf

while i get why rask villa reads syn, i thought this post:

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Originally Posted by Syn

everyone currently passing the vibe check I think we should vote sleep

not to be confused with sheep

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was out of character for their villa self, but I am not sure how serious it is


this benneh post:

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

i agree, but i think i can explain it, ymmv. i think it was cause it was an odd segue onto a topic that was somewhat ... irrelevant anyway? like the idea that it was something of inherent value that sheep/knights didn't pick up on and point out is the wolfy part to me, because why did they have to think that was the case? what value or interest is gleaned from either of those players just taking stett's post as off the cuff. it seemed like a bunch of casual shade thrown onto ppl for making gut reads/leans which is the wolfy part to me

my only guess was the timing of stett's post could have made wisdom think this, but reading it in 'real-time' that wasn't something that occurred to me cause it was a pretty ~whatever post beyond being tonally towny and i didnt think much of anyone else reading into that post either

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reminded me of some benneh posts from last game here (where he was a wolf). I cba to double check cause it's d1 and my interest in lunching him today is extremely limited but thats the vibe i got




i'd bet ~everything vanta gets killed by village regardless of alignment

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Originally Posted by Newcomb

knights did have a kind of awkward intro; whoever pointed that out, think it was rask or ender maybe, I vibe with it. didn't stick out like a sore thumb but on readback, the shoe fits for the token awkward thread entrance d1 wolf. Not a glass slipper, but at least a pair of crocs.

Talk to me about benneh; apologies if I missed it, i'm catching up and also f5'ing the thread as I do

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yea knights honestly had a TON of stuff that pinged me, i just thought sheep push on them was worse in the moment so i didnt pay it too much attnetion

benneh read on wisdom just read like the wolfy kind of salady and wisdom is an easy villager to wolf read (and imo he has not been wolfy at all). I think a big part of it ws just a flashback to his wolf game here tho lol

idk maybe later i'll dig up the posts it reminds me of

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Originally Posted by grr

I must have genuinely read exactly the wrong newcomb games in the past if that is true. I found them all very inspiring from d1 on. (At least in theory, in practice I still remained myself after consuming them for some reason).

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I've been rolling that parenthetical around in my head for at least one actual minute and yeah i've got nothing

if only to satisfy my morbid curiosity - explain?

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Originally Posted by Jan

And I don't think Cobalt as a wolf wants to get bad heat early (which is where the read gets back to being somewhat cobalt-specific).
His biggest weakness is not getting a foot in the door of the village from my limited (and outdated) pov which can result in flaking.
Once he gets a grip on the game/state he has an easier time staying within the group.

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@Jan see, the problem for me is i kinda associate that more with his townplay than wolfplay, which means the early eagerness here kinda feels in line with what i'd expect from w!balt

#160 just feels hedgey to me, but intentionally so. i kinda doubt thats a post either v!cobalt or w!cobalt would anticipate getting heat for, so idrk if i buy your analysis, but. i'll keep it in mind, ty

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Originally Posted by ladd

yea knights honestly had a TON of stuff that pinged me, i just thought sheep push on them was worse in the moment so i didnt pay it too much attnetion

benneh read on wisdom just read like the wolfy kind of salady and wisdom is an easy villager to wolf read (and imo he has not been wolfy at all). I think a big part of it ws just a flashback to his wolf game here tho lol

idk maybe later i'll dig up the posts it reminds me of

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:wolfnod: join the wagon tbh

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Originally Posted by Jan

why gemma? I vaguely agree with the other 2.on the same line.

For gemma I only really remember loose questioning which sounds great but meant nothing to me.
It is the minimum hurdle of competence as either alignment.

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@Jan gemma has the vibes of a badger that got woken up by birds at 3am and is now drinking tea to cope.


translation: they have a kinda bruskness and "im too cool for this" attitude, which like, *can* be a way for maf to slank and blend, but i typically associate with villies. i also vibe with their lil micro comments like:
#138, #266, and how they've used basic "why" pokes.

this might seem a bit odd of a q, but: if you had to hypothetically assign one person in thread The Hermit card, who would you reckon best fits the bill?

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

. Retracting town leans on Sheep and Stett for the time being.

Unvote

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elucidate me? your TL in the first place felt like sheeping thread, so which posts made you come to your own conclusion? @Wisdom

:book2:

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Originally Posted by didistetter

:wolfnod: join the wagon tbh

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i generally only make 1 vote d1 and it's almost definitely gonna come in the 2nd half of the day

it's a bit of a system of self defense i have unconsciously devoleped over time lmao

yeah pretty sure stett just town. it's good because I like working with stett.

it's bad because these reads aren't really hot takes

v
Jan
Stett

@C0balt weird q but:

would you say PL at all influenced your approach to sod? if not, what was your general mindset going into your thread entry?

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Originally Posted by ladd

i generally only make 1 vote d1 and it's almost definitely gonna come in the 2nd half of the day

it's a bit of a system of self defense i have unconsciously devoleped over time lmao

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sad. im trying to build an army of obvitown boomer meatshields to ensure i get to endgame </3

you're obvitown enough without voting tho so, still works :P

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

Rask... for some reason I expected him to be more hype than he's shown so far, but I know that he really didn't want to rand wolf this game and I'd think he'd put more effort into seeming solvy than he's done so he's probably town anyway.

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I'm kinda squinting at this in a vaguely TWTBAW / TWTBTWTBAW way.

Like the flow as I understand it is - wisdom had an expectation on rask for "some reason" that they'd be more high energy. Also, he knew Rask didn't want to rand wolf. So the thought is, if he did rand wolf he'd counteract that perception by going harder.

Just having a lot of trouble wrapping my head around the actual thought process here. If Rask had come in high energy would that also be a townread? If so, what is the utility of the read at all? Didn't rask's first post have something about them being on vacation? That point doesn't get consideration when it directly relates to thread presence / energy?

Also the counter is super blatant - someone who really didn't want to rand wolf and then is lower energy, like idk maybe they're actually just a wolf??

Also I'm not sure I even agree rask has been low energy, especially grading on a curve

Yeah I think i'm gonnn need to see some tapdancing or something here

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Originally Posted by dyachei

yeah pretty sure stett just town. it's good because I like working with stett.

it's bad because these reads aren't really hot takes

v
Jan
Stett

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ngl im p sure we haven't been v/v since hydra szn lol, so im excited if tru!!

do you have any hot takes?

this feels like a p small townlist for 10 pages deep, so i'd like to hear a bit about how you approach TRs, and what, if anything you're cautious about with townreading other "heavily" (relative to gamestate) TR slots like newcomb, sunbae, arctic

sup

wrt colonel being bop - there was a couple posts that bop made (the one about if being gh gets him villa read then hell ya i'm gh) which stood out way more in my mind while reading and felt like how gh 'claims' his alts. and since gh alts alot over on MU, and this is his homesite, i just kinda ran with that assumption. Completely missed the jon paul references and benneh calling you bop otherwise yeah it would have been pretty obvious.

wrt ladd wondering why i didn't give a read on sheep - i wrote out a whole couple sentence thing about sheep, and wanting to drop him in lean wolf on my reads list, but after rereading it I felt like i was reaching pretty hard and trying to force a read on someone I knew i should have a read on, but I didn't actually have a firm read on, and so I just left him off.

my thoughts were essentially I think his wolf read on me is pretty high confidence considering its a page 1 wolf read on someone who he historically isn't the best at reading, but I didn't really think the reads were wolfy so much as wrong so i didn't want to omgus him, but that he hasn't actually been villagery either.

all of which sounds hedgy and stupid so yeah i just left it off :dizzy2:

@ whoever asked about my benneh read (raskov I think?)

its literally just i liked how he interacted with bop

relatively low confidence but the vibes were good

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Originally Posted by ladd

(to be clear i am not convinced syn is a wolf as of this post)


i villa read sunbae/colonel(bop)/newcomb/jan/stetter pretty confidently


then i have a bunch of people who i have no strong reads on (some i admit i have just skimmed over their posts and will read them later)


then sheep/knights imo has 1 exactly 1 wolf

while i get why rask villa reads syn, i thought this post:



was out of character for their villa self, but I am not sure how serious it is


this benneh post:



reminded me of some benneh posts from last game here (where he was a wolf). I cba to double check cause it's d1 and my interest in lunching him today is extremely limited but thats the vibe i got




i'd bet ~everything vanta gets killed by village regardless of alignment

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q: do you think wisdom was actually interested in why bob/knights/sheep (im forgetting who exactly it was now) didn't question whether that was a pre-written post?

that does not seem like something she would actually care about in that spot and i disliked the way it was framed because it came across as shade. so even if i accept maybe she just had a different thought/approach to the stett post the framing thereafter felt ruff to me

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unfortunately i kinda like wisdoms other posts since then and i dont really care to go down this road a ton but c'est la vie and all since u brought it up

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Originally Posted by ladd

yea knights honestly had a TON of stuff that pinged me, i just thought sheep push on them was worse in the moment so i didnt pay it too much attnetion

benneh read on wisdom just read like the wolfy kind of salady and wisdom is an easy villager to wolf read (and imo he has not been wolfy at all). I think a big part of it ws just a flashback to his wolf game here tho lol

idk maybe later i'll dig up the posts it reminds me of

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very surprised i had a TON of stuff that pinged you

the post cap/48 hr cycle is going to mess with my normal posting flow for sure but I don't think i've done much for people familiar with me to really have a strong read on me either way tbh

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Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee

sup

wrt colonel being bop - there was a couple posts that bop made (the one about if being gh gets him villa read then hell ya i'm gh) which stood out way more in my mind while reading and felt like how gh 'claims' his alts. and since gh alts alot over on MU, and this is his homesite, i just kinda ran with that assumption. Completely missed the jon paul references and benneh calling you bop otherwise yeah it would have been pretty obvious.

wrt ladd wondering why i didn't give a read on sheep - i wrote out a whole couple sentence thing about sheep, and wanting to drop him in lean wolf on my reads list, but after rereading it I felt like i was reaching pretty hard and trying to force a read on someone I knew i should have a read on, but I didn't actually have a firm read on, and so I just left him off.

my thoughts were essentially I think his wolf read on me is pretty high confidence considering its a page 1 wolf read on someone who he historically isn't the best at reading, but I didn't really think the reads were wolfy so much as wrong so i didn't want to omgus him, but that he hasn't actually been villagery either.

all of which sounds hedgy and stupid so yeah i just left it off :dizzy2:

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damn u still just feel towny to me idk.

:turtle:

this is all responsive/defensive, so im curious what your thoughts are on stuff not related to you tbh

this seems like you're p caught up with thread, so has anything shifted since last night?

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Originally Posted by didistetter

Vote: nebjiamn

2/5 nice

Grr is tiny SL rn, but his alignment is probs obvious by eod

I’m not vibing with wisdom’s posts at all yet, but wanna see if that’s just dif perspective or if its indicative of alignment stuff.

Arctic is odd. His posts kinda sound like voice notes turned into text. Idk what that means, maybe town?

Gemma town, ender town, insomnia town

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can u expand on the IH read. he seems like, an ~easy town find here tbh

damn stett's found the best org emojis already. she's a natural ORGAH

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q: do you think wisdom was actually interested in why bob/knights/sheep (im forgetting who exactly it was now) didn't question whether that was a pre-written post?

that does not seem like something she would actually care about in that spot and i disliked the way it was framed because it came across as shade. so even if i accept maybe she just had a different thought/approach to the stett post the framing thereafter felt ruff to me

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unfortunately i kinda like wisdoms other posts since then and i dont really care to go down this road a ton but c'est la vie and all since u brought it up

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Id say thats something wisdom could care about as a villager ya

They make weird reads fairly often as a villager and i didnt really think that post from them was wolfy

Idr have them as lock clear or anything bit thry have seemed mostly the same as all the times they have been villa here

@Knights

Yea, mostly small stuff but its a bunch of things. For transparency here is the list!

- not giving a read on sheep push on you

- villareading benneh for 4 posts about cats (with the same strength as bop who was objectively more villagery imho)

- syn read felt a bit weird cause i dont feel bop alignment should have mattered much?

- saying newcomb had made some game related post bit not reading them and instead going to sleep. This 1 is a bit silly but as a villager idt i could have helped myself from reading them lol

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Originally Posted by didistetter

damn u still just feel towny to me idk.

:turtle:

this is all responsive/defensive, so im curious what your thoughts are on stuff not related to you tbh

this seems like you're p caught up with thread, so has anything shifted since last night?

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I skimmed/looked for my own name on catchup so i haven't fully processed the thread tbqh

my general thoughts are that i still feel pretty good about my earlier villa reads, i think benneh's hangup on wisdom talking about your first post feels like villa!benneh, I think sheep had a villagery post that you quoted which i need to reread and process my feelings on, i liked arctic's entrance a lot, think newcomb is significantly more villagery now, and I hate ladd's wolf read on me because it feels not very fleshed out, and like he's just wolf reading me after general thread perception on me soured and he's just trying to add more pressure, so I think of the people pushing me he is currently most likely to be a wolf.

something about enderwiggen pinged me but tbh i don't remember what it was and i've never played with them so i'll probably jsut let that go

(Also i dont have a strong read on u, as i said i dont have an "home run" wolfread atm. I am mostly just content hanging out until later part of the day and them see how i feel/who i wanna push)

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Originally Posted by Newcomb

i'm cool with it

Who is Sett?

you can just make something up and i'll never know until I get hella confused on D3

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OH I CAN ACTUALLY HELP WITH THIS ONE

Sett is Cuthalion's alt here
One of my favs to play with
Usually has people uncertain early and then kicks it into gear in mid/late game and becomes obv villa and solves shit

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Originally Posted by ladd

Id say thats something wisdom could care about as a villager ya

They make weird reads fairly often as a villager and i didnt really think that post from them was wolfy

Idr have them as lock clear or anything bit thry have seemed mostly the same as all the times they have been villa here

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okie dokie -- i still think that was phrased wolfily but w/e

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@Knights

Yea, mostly small stuff but its a bunch of things. For transparency here is the list!

- not giving a read on sheep push on you

- villareading benneh for 4 posts about cats (with the same strength as bop who was objectively more villagery imho)

- syn read felt a bit weird cause i dont feel bop alignment should have mattered much?

- saying newcomb had made some game related post bit not reading them and instead going to sleep. This 1 is a bit silly but as a villager idt i could have helped myself from reading them lol

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cats are a proven pocketer, as evidenced by the makaze role in anni getting all the donations for the kitty appeals.

(i think knights read on me (and others) was actually fine btw, it seemed like a vibe read and not a 'zomg hes so townie' read. im biased tho)

Insom reads villagery to me which means Insom woofing :(

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OH I CAN ACTUALLY HELP WITH THIS ONE

Sett is Cuthalion's alt here
One of my favs to play with
Usually has people uncertain early and then kicks it into gear in mid/late game and becomes obv villa and solves shit

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wait for real?

didi = sett = cuth?

because that actually does change things if true

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Originally Posted by Newcomb

wait for real?

didi = sett = cuth?

because that actually does change things if true

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:curtain:

Lmao

Stett is a new player from MU (actually from 5up server iirc)

@Benneh :thumbsup: agree to disagree

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Originally Posted by Newcomb

wait for real?

didi = sett = cuth?

because that actually does change things if true

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no

didistetter is stett

sett is some guy who always get lunched d1 in mashes

cuth is lissa

Im going to see deadpool and wolverine

Im pretty sure I'm gonna be able to just big vibe and shitpost this game while the titans of werewolf actually solve shit for me <3

lol i'm confused as fuck

and I know the more I ask for a real answer the more i'll get trolled which is fair

I will therefore go do something else for a while :v