The Settlement [Concluded]

For those concerned about Pisuf's Conversion ability, it's not as bad a situation as it seems. He can only use that ability once. It changes the target's victory conditions to Pisuf's own, but it does not otherwise alter that person's power. Based on the fact that Yoyoma has apparently confirmed CA's innocence to GH, I think the person who got converted is obvious. Yoyoma is not much of a threat as a converted minion, as he can only investigate, not kill. His value to CA is in misinformation, not killing power.

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Originally Posted by boudica

I'm assuming you/your source has investigated me then. I have been reluctant - with good reason i think - to reveal my role, and have avoided all townie networks for the following reasons.

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I investigated you on Night 4. I saw no need to divulge this until now because previously it would risk you getting killed. However, I deemed the risk to you to be less than that of W_E targeting the wrong person. Speaking of W_E, am I the only person who is getting the feeling that W_E is lying through his teeth? I still think CB is most likely Iffo due to his continued insistance that the well-know Priest cover role PM is his actual role PM. However, if I had to pick a second candidate for Iffo, I would pick W_E.

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Originally Posted by TinCow

For those concerned about Pisuf's Conversion ability, it's not as bad a situation as it seems. He can only use that ability once.

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You are 100 % sure of that?

Sorry, but after Netherworld, I for one would not be willing to let a god with the ability to kill and convert running around alive. He should be top priority for town.

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Originally Posted by Andres

You are 100 % sure of that?

Sorry, but after Netherworld, I for one would not be willing to let a god with the ability to kill and convert running around alive. He should be top priority for town.

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Yes, I just went back and re-read it to make sure. It can only be used once, with the only other limitation being that it couldn't be used on the Psyensil (me).

Also, I'm not saying CA isn't a priority. I think he is. Unless something happens tonight which shows Iffo's identity clearly, I think CA should be the lynch choice. I don't think we need to worry too much about Pisuf minions though, since there can be only one of them and that person (Yoyoma) cannot kill at night. Yoyoma will likely have to be eliminated, but he would be the very bottom of the ladder for lynches.

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Originally Posted by TinCow

Yes, I just went back and re-read it to make sure. It can only be used once, with the only other limitation being that it couldn't be used on the Psyensil (me).

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I remember a detective being 100 % sure about his investigation results (I believe it was 'khaan or Ichigo in Stigs' Heineken game), and it turned out that one of the results was still ambiguous.

I do trust in your judgement, but better safe than sorry me thinks.

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Originally Posted by TinCow

Also, I'm not saying CA isn't a priority. I think he is. Unless something happens tonight which shows Iffo's identity clearly, I think CA should be the lynch choice. I don't think we need to worry too much about Pisuf minions though, since there can be only one of them and that person (Yoyoma) cannot kill at night. Yoyoma will likely have to be eliminated, but he would be the very bottom of the ladder for lynches.

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When was Yoyoma1910 converted? Wasn't their one more kill on N2 when Yoyoma1910 got blocked?

Are you sure about his abilities and the night in which he got converted?

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Originally Posted by Andres

I remember a detective being 100 % sure about his investigation results (I believe it was 'khaan or Ichigo in Stigs' Heineken game), and it turned out that one of the results was still ambiguous.

I do trust in your judgement, but better safe than sorry me thinks.

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We'll know if I'm wrong if we see someone kill other than Pisuf or Iffo.

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Originally Posted by Andres

When was Yoyoma1910 converted? Wasn't their one more kill on N2 when Yoyoma1910 got blocked?

Are you sure about his abilities and the night in which he got converted?

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I don't know for sure, but if I had to make a guess it would be N3. On N3, CA was supposed to be investigating LittleGrizzly. He said he was 'blocked' in this and produced a result about some religious guy running around in a black cape that stopped him from checking out LG. In hindsight, I was a total idiot to buy this because CA had told me that he gets his info directly from OsiOsi (investigation by prayer, not sneaking around peoples' houses like I did). I have also not seen ANY role claims or evidence that would correspond to some priest in a black cape running around with lots of followers preaching about god.

In addition, when CA first contacted me he talked about how he and I were a perfect team, since we would both be able to spot a faked role PM or statement. Based on what I have since learned, I think this was bravado by CA because he was sending me an altered role PM right then and there. It would make sense that he would feel confident that he could fake a night result that I would accept as real.

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Originally Posted by taka

I am a merchant, but used to be a war veteran who hated combat and war. ive got combat skills of 7, but i cannot issue any challenges (i can accept as defence tho)

I didnt want to say because i thought it might bring suspicion upon myself; but since i've been asked to, i can only reply (before i really do become suspicious).

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Originally Posted by Sigurd

I think we should have another look at Lord Winter. He claims Merchant with duel score of 7.
If you look at Andres' Merchant role, it says 4.
I know that a vanilla merchant role has only a 1 as duel score. I can't quote on my cell, so please have a look at Andres' duel text in his quoted role PM. You will realize that a one would be the natural score from "weak as the silk you sell".

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Originally Posted by White_eyes:D

A little late for that.....if I am wrong....I am sorry Lord Winter.:sweatdrop:
but on the bright side you will not be dead.....you will just lose that awesome Duel score sadly.....:no:

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Nooooo! It was taka who claimed a 7! And yes, he is almost certainly guilty.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Nooooo! It was taka who claimed a 7! And yes, he is almost certainly guilty.

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Ooops!!
That's what reading on a cellphone does to you.
I think taka has a second role with a high duel score and wouldn't want to be caught in a lie should he somehow be challenged. Doesn't mean he is guilty though, just wanting to protect his rather high score and his role. Another god?

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Originally Posted by Captain Blackadder

I dual with Seamus

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I'd prefer a duel. I only "dual" with the wife, pal!



Yes, I concur that taka's duel score -- if as high as claimed -- STRONGLY suggests something more than he has indicated.

Arach is a threat. Lynch him. He has too high a chance, obviously, to beat any night-kill effort.

If I am viewed as a threat, have someone challenge me who's got a high score. They'll make short work of me and you can all divide up the mutton. Actually, this should probably take a higher priority than I'd like to say. I am turning up too often in people's worry lists.

Boudica is NOT telling her whole story (and arguably should not). Note, this does NOT mean she's a usurper. That is only one possibility. In this game, possibilites are boundless.

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

I'd prefer a duel. I only "dual" with the wife, pal!

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:oops: I meant I will duel with dual swords just to make it more fun.

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Originally Posted by Captain Blackadder

:oops: I meant I will duel with dual swords just to make it more fun.

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Your twin blades against my implements of choice: Crozier, sling, and belt-knife. Are you ready to
Rumble?

I think it is pointless to have blackadder duel. If White_eyes comes online in time to change his target from lord winter to taka Iffo should be eliminated. 7 is higher than the watcher, higher than the sorcerer of vode, and equal to Reenk Roink. Can't be anyone but Iffo. Taka claimed his actual score because I'd said we should have lord winter and him duel.

Then tomorrow...

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Originally Posted by TinCow

Yoyoma's statement to GH are probably related to one of the extra abilities that were added to CA's role after he chose his path (solo). I cannot quote that PM, but I think the name of the power speaks for itself: Conversion.

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No, no...

You lied about a guilty result on a priest (moi)
You continue to push Captain Blackadder even though he seems innocent, and rejected my bait
You forgot to mention CA's power of conversion before when you were listing all his powers, and only bring it out when yoyoma supposedly confirms his innocence?

Given your role, your judgement is not to be trusted with regards to any person connected with gods or religion.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

You lied about a guilty result on a priest (moi)

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The result I got from Reenk said you were guilty. I had no side objectives other than outlasting the usurpers (ironically, Yoyoma can confirm this, since he investigated me and got my full role PM). You have also admitted that you were recruiting and working against the town. You'll forgive me if scoff at your repeated innocence claims.

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You continue to push Captain Blackadder even though he seems innocent, and rejected my bait

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On what basis does he seem innocent? Your bait was obvious and could easily have been seen through. The only thing I see about CB is that he claims as his 'real' role one that we know has been given as a 'cover' role by two people. That's pretty strong evidence that he's not who he claims to be. His actions with accepting and then withdrawing and the re-accepting (too late) the challenges are also scumtastic.

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You forgot to mention CA's power of conversion before when you were listing all his powers, and only bring it out when yoyoma supposedly confirms his innocence?

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I wanted to see who would rally to CA's defense, because I wasn't sure about Yoyoma. Once Yoyoma contacted GH, he confirmed my suspicions that he had been recruited.

Oh come on Sasaki, there's a possibility to be converted to scum. Don't tell me you didn't apply for the job already.

Knowing you, you got converted at the moment somebody typed "he has the power to conver...".

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Originally Posted by TinCow

You have also admitted that you were recruiting and working against the town.

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Your bait was obvious and could easily have been seen through.

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Bahahaha! :laugh4:

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On what basis does he seem innocent?

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1) He sounds innocent
2) Taka is guilty




The real reason to lynch CA is because he killed me, or because he's lied about his role in the past. Not because of what senor atheist says...

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The result I got from Reenk said you were guilty.

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Sometimes I do think Reenk was just just messing with you/us...but it suits my purposes more to say that you're lying.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

The real reason to lynch CA is because he killed me, or because he's lied about his role in the past. Not because of what senor atheist says...

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FORMER Atheist, my friend. Former. As I stated before, I have been enlightened in death. After all, it's hard to deny the existence of Gods when you're in the afterlife.

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Originally Posted by TinCow

am I the only person who is getting the feeling that W_E is lying through his teeth?

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His attitude ever since Iffo was released has been very very scummy. Threatening to use his abilities at will, without any founded reason is very wierd.

Since I think Iffo possessed a townie which was formerly innocent, I think re-investigating everyone is in order, with priority to W_E.
EDIT: It would also explain the massive amount of investigators, since they would have to investigate for the usurpers then re-investigate for Iffo.

Where are the orders?

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Originally Posted by Jolt

His attitude ever since Iffo was released has been very very scummy. Threatening to use his abilities at will, without any founded reason is very wierd.

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The thing that I don't buy are his claims that his Iffo-defeating ability is a one-shot deal and that if he picks the wrong person he loses it. The only way that would be balanced is if he could also investigate, and he clearly can't do that because he's flailing around like crazy pointing fingers at people. If he could investigate, he would have kept quiet about his ability, investigated whoever he thought was guilty, and gone from there.

I have made no mistakes in the night writeups save forgetting to send one to a person and thus being late.

I read them to make sure.

Where are the orders?

Nobody wants to kill anyone.. whats the problem ~;)

My order for tonight is to resurrect little grizzly

my order tomorrow night will be to kill Iffo

My order for the 3rd night is to raise an army of all the killers in the game to try and take on CA

well that should be the game pretty much wrapped up!

I'd like to order a chicken tikka massala, with rice please.

i need to go, but before i do, just to say that i actually have a battle rating of 6, but i was given an item at night which gave me +1 battle rating.

I think the bound to charity thing about iffo is that he must give an item away or something. kinda makes sense imo

You could always post your role pm.

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Originally Posted by Andres

I'd like to order a chicken tikka massala, with rice please.

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No need to cook it though!

*Prepares fireball*

I'd appreciate it, Jolt, if you didn't resurrect in this thread and start a flame war. Thank you.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

You could always post your role pm.

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Which one?

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Originally Posted by Andres

Which one?

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How about this one?

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Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

Hello Seamus Fermanagh, thanks for playing :bow:

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Damn it Chas, how'd you get an extra fist under that beard? You just scare the poop outa me!

:stupido: You to Chuck Norris

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You are a Diademned Battle Lord

Background:

Your line of work was never easy, though often glamorous and the girls were plentiful. The only fly in this ointment was the "untrustworthy one." That one barred your path at every opportunity and often served the interests of your hated rival Chuck Norris.

You are following him -- Sasaki Kojiro -- to bring justice and make sure he never oppresses others like he has oppressed you.

Battle Rating:

42 – Your battle skills are a thing of legend -- only Norris can oppose you openly and win.

Note: In the case of a duel against Sasaki, you must have neutralized his other role in the game or he is likely summon Chuck Norris and your chance of victory will be small indeed.

You may investigate Sasaki once per night. Each night you will have a cumulative 5% chance to learn everything about his in-game role.

Victory Conditions:

Outlast Sasaki Kojiro
Outlast the usurpers and settlers (solo victory)

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But...but...I thought I recruited you into my cult!