BI Demo Comments

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Originally Posted by Louis de la Ferte Ste Colombe

I have tried and test a few mods. Most modders are not aware of the -mod function, or just too plain lazy to implement it well.

And that's too bad, because the function does work well... and if modders were really willing to do it, everyone would be able to run multiple mods + vanilla on one install.

That also reminds me that the link in your sig is not using that functionality. Consequence; you can't play MP with it, and it screw up other mods that are using properly the -mod function.

Louis,

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Ok, then put bugfixer in seperate folder, use -mod function, and please try to start imperial campaign or custom battle.

If you succeed, then please tell me how you did it, and what I missed.

My experience is that for this to work, is that I need to feed that folder with copies of buch of original unmofidied files too, to get it to work (especially imperial_campaign folder).

And even then, since text folder still need to be original, then what is really the point. It would still screw some mod then mods txt files...


P.S.
CA did said that -mod function is incomplete, and it doesn't work for all files, and that it will be improved in expansion.

I do expect moding revolution then, and extensive use of -mod too.

By the way, I think MCM users could easily make it bug-fixer "compatilbe", if they copy original files that MCM doesn't modify to MCM folder. That way they would use original values instead of bug-fixer ones.


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My hunch says that by just puting original descr_mount.txt to your MCM folder, will make it work over MCM (while keeping bug-fixer for SP game).

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Originally Posted by player1

By the way, I think MCM users could easily make it bug-fixer "compatilbe", if they copy original files that MCM doesn't modify to MCM folder. That way they would use original values instead of bug-fixer ones.


EDIT:
My hunch says that by just puting original descr_mount.txt to your MCM folder, will make it work over MCM (while keeping bug-fixer for SP game).

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But that would make MCM non compatible with multiplayer. MCM needs a clean vanilla installation and not to manipulate its own files to work in multiplayer games.

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Originally Posted by player1

Ok, then put bugfixer in seperate folder, use -mod function, and please try to start imperial campaign or custom battle.

If you succeed, then please tell me how you did it, and what I missed.

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I've been watching your bugfixer and if you want how to make it using -mod, you have to put the original descr_strat file in your mymod folder. In addition, you will have to put text, UI and sprites folders in Data and not in mymod folder. As you didn't add new models nor textures, you don't have to redirectionate entries from descr_model_battle.txt.

As I said, just take a look at my mod to learn how to.

If you have any question about how to mod using this feature, please pm me because this is off topic, this thread is to talk about BI demo.

Yes, I just realised, after some experimentation, that descr_strat is requred to be able to start either campaign or custom battles.

Probably the reason why my earlier experiments failed.

Although, as I noticed earlier, I still need to manaully place TGAs from original imperial_campaign folder to mymod version, in order to show map on faction selection screen properly.


This still leaves question of text folder, probably why I won't use this structure (until BI).


Anyway, as far as I'm aware in order to use original MP with bugfixer installed, all it is necessary is to use original export_descr_units.txt file (supplied with bugfixer backup folder). It was enough to not show warning when loading original game replays.

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Originally Posted by Puzz3D

You can download it from here:

MCM-v0.11 English

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Thanks

Since this thread has shifted toward a mod discussion I have to wonder whether anyone is still playing the demo?

sorry...


BI demo has great looking barbarian captain skins.
You know the brown guy with brown shield.

Maybe it's because he does not suffer from faction color overuse?

I really dont mind about the mod discussion. As far as I'm concerned, with all the excellent work you've done for RTW you can discuss what you want where you want.

I honestly just wonder whether the lack of posts over the last few days indicates a real lack of enthusiasm for the demo. On the other hand, I only played the RTW demo once, so who knows.