Re: Re : Re: Racism in Sweden
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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
He was killed by an Algerian asylum seeker. I have recently decided to just call a spade a spade.
While searching for an English link on the situation on France, I found this rather unsettling article from Australia. Welcome to French style race relations, Australia:
'Middle-Eastern' may be appropriate for Australia, but in a French context that should read 'from the Maghreb'. Morocco, Algeria, Tunesia.
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If what's stated in this article is true I don't understand how a nation can stand by while their women are being targeted like this.
Re: Re : Racism in Sweden
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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
That article does have a one-sided perspective. But that doesn't make it untrue. The Quadrant seems like a serious enough magazine, and this article was written well before the riots last year in either France or Australia. It is a long read, but a good one. All of it sounded eerily familiar. From the portrait they paint of a generation of rampaging Arab immigrants to the blind eye of their PC apologists.
I too was once one of their apologists. No more. I can not not see what I see.
Is it a coincidence that dozens of immigrant communities do well in France - from the Cambodians to the Portugese, from the Chinese to the Indians? Millions of them have integrated and found that live in France is rather good. Yet somehow the North-Africans have created some sort of war-zones for themselves. Little pockets of Palestine ('Paristine') - forever at war with the country around them.
Is it a coincidence that the 'Asians' in Britain (mainly Pakistani's, mainly Muslims), and the Turks in Germany (Muslims again) are on the whole doing fine, really?
Is it a coincidence too that the countries in western-Europe that have the biggest immigrant problems are those countries where the predominant group of immigrants are Arabs, of overwhelmingly North-Africans decent?
Is it some nasty inherent fault of France when countries as different as France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden and Norway all seem to share the same problems with them?
I'm not interested in any race wars or any clash of cultures a la Samuel Huntington. But I'm not going to be a fool about it anymore either: the North-Africans are the problem, not us. And yes, the situation in Israel is pressing on them, and they feel insecure in the post 9/11 world, and they fall in between the cultures of their parents and their new homelands and all that. Which is all very well. But go see a shrink, don't gang-rape teenage girls.
Don't some European nations like France and Denmark have a bit of institutionalized racism present?
I just cannot see this as a one sided, all their fault problem...
Re: Re : Re: Racism in Sweden
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Originally Posted by Quadrant
I wonder whether the inventors of the racial hatred laws introduced during the golden years of multiculturalism ever took into account that we, the silent majority, would be the target of racial violence and hatred. I don’t remember any charges being laid in conjunction with the gang rapes of south-western Sydney in 2001
Compared with what happened I would say that Quadrant is appearing biased:
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The public uproar caused by the gang rapes led to the passage of new legislation through the Parliament of New South Wales, dramatically increasing the sentences for gang rapists by creating a new category of crime known as aggravated sexual assault in company [2]. Also in the course of one of the trials, the defendants refused counsel claiming that all lawyers were against Muslims. This led to the contentious prospect of the defendants being able to cross examine the witnesses themselves, a situation that was averted by further legislation being put through the New South Wales parliament [3].
The first court case heard under the new sentencing regime concerned the gang rapes of two young women in Ashfield on July 28, 2002 (see Ashfield gang rapes).
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Bilal Skaf, ring leader of the three August 2000 rapes, was sentenced to a total of 55 years imprisonment. On September 16, 2005, the New South Wales Court of Criminal Appeal reduced Skaf's 55 year sentence to a maximum of 28 years, with parole available after 22 years. Bilal Skaf will now be eligible for release on February 11, 2023.
Bilal's younger brother, Mohammed Skaf, was jailed for 32 years for his role in the gang rapes but also had his sentence later reduced to 19 years with a non-parole period of 11 years.
Three other gang rapists - Belal Hajeid, Mohammed Sanoussi, and a man known only as H, also had their sentences reduced.
Sanoussi's brother Mahmoud Sanoussi and another man, Mahmoud Chami, both lost their appeals on their sentences.
Tayaab Sheikh, 18, was sentenced to 15 years imprisonment.
Mohammed Ghanem, 19, was the final person to be sentenced and was imprisoned for 40 years with a non-parole period of 26 years for two counts of rape.
Nine men in total were jailed over the 2000 rapes and received a total of 240 years.
Re: Re : Racism in Sweden
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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
It is a tragedy. For Europe. But also for the first generation immigrants, for (north-African) muslim parents who came here, have lead a decent live of hard work, and now see their sons run rampant. It is a tragedy for that majority of immigrants who just go about their own business and lead perfectly respectable lives.
It's not a tragedy, it's a crime. The immigrants raised these monsters. How can you honestly say they're just there to peacefully co-exist, integrate and improve their lives when they fly their native flags, refuse to speak the local language and encourage their sons to rape/mug/pillage/riot? Why do I say they 'encourage'? If your parents aren't stopping your bad behavior, they're encouraging it.
I say if some kid is out rioting, mugging people, what have you eject the whole family. Send them all back where they came from and bar them from reentry. You'll see these problems evaporate. Immigrants? Yes. Reconquista cultural, as the Mexican gangsters in this country call it? Never...
