The Golden Rule [Concluded]

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GeneralHankerchief: Vote TevashSzat
Shlin28: Vote QJC
Seireikhaan: Vote YLC
Quintus.JC: Vote Shlin
woad&fangs: Vote QJC
Chaotix27: Vote Shlin
White_Eyes: Vote Reenk Roink
TevashSzat: Vote Beefy
Reenk Roink: Vote Seireikhaan
YLC: unvoted
Beefy: Vote Reenk Roink
Ares: Vote woad&fangs
Yoyoma1910: Vote No Lynch

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TevashSzat: 1
Quintus.JC: 2
YLC: 1
Shlin28: 2
Reenk Roink: 2
Beefy: 1
woad&fangs: 1
seireikhaan: 1
No Lynch: 1

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Still tied up. You have one more day, otherwise I am going to randomize it.

Not changing my vote. I know I am innocent so I do not fear such trivial things as randomising whatsits. The Laws of Probability are WITH ME! :devilish:

Not changing mine either. Im happy with who I voted for.

Oh for the love of God, let this round end! :wall:

Vote: shlin28 Even the laws of probability can't help you now. :laugh4:

Then so be it :bow: May my death be fruitful for the town and our dastardly plan.

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Originally Posted by shlin28

Then so be it :bow: May my death be fruitful for the town and our dastardly plan.

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Vote: Quintus.JC

My surveillance of you has determined you to be unlikely as an traitor. :bow:

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Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

Vote: Quintus.JC

My surveillance of you has determined you to be unlikely as an traitor. :bow:

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Dont forget to unvote the other vote :yes:

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Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

Oh for the love of God, let this round end! :wall:

Vote: shlin28 Even the laws of probability can't help you now. :laugh4:

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Man, without kills there is hardly anything to go off of....:shrug:....only reason I am not jumping on you for doing this, is because I was just about to do it myself:laugh4:.....(break the tie and get the DAMN round to end...:furious3:)

i hope im not put in the lime like for this but im doing u all a favour breaking the tie


unvote: W&F
vote: quintus
sorry but i think shlins innocent, hes always voted out soon, and he is roleplaying, sorry quinus, just to move us on :shrug: i think your the more likely of the two

GeneralHankerchief: Vote TevashSzat
Shlin28: Vote QJC
Seireikhaan: Vote YLC
Quintus.JC: Vote Shlin
woad&fangs: Vote QJC
Chaotix27: Vote Shlin
White_Eyes: Vote Reenk Roink
TevashSzat: Vote Beefy
Reenk Roink: Vote QJC
YLC: unvoted
Beefy: Vote Reenk Roink
Ares: Vote QJC
Yoyoma1910: Vote No Lynch



TevashSzat: 1
Quintus.JC: 4
YLC: 1
Shlin28: 2
Reenk Roink: 2
Beefy: 1
No Lynch: 1


End of Day Three.

Day Three


The tanker continued its voyage across the sea, and once again the men met to determine their fate. After the calm of yesterday, everyone seemed to be more at ease. Their weapons were drawn, but they were not nearly as tense.

But the votes were rattled off, and Quintus.JC was the clear winner, and he knew it. His weapon raised, and he looked at the men who voted for him and prepared to fire, but suddenly he dropped to the floor.

A spray of gunfire barely missed him, and he returned fire. Several of the crew jumped out of the way, but several were hit with bullets. Quintus looked around to see if he had any allies; but no one came to his rescue. So much for camaraderie.

"You were my friends..." He said, but a bullet tore through his chest, stopping his heart and knocking the wind out of him. His weapon dropped out of his lifeless hands.

The others escaped with some bullet wounds, but they did have a surgeon on board, and the rest were treated and bandaged up. The night would be a painful but uneventful one.

Night Three

No one stirred, and whatever traitorous element remained kept quiet and blended in with the others.



Begin Day Four.


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Yoyoma1910
Shlin28
Quintus.JC
Aries777777
WhiteEyes
El Diablo
Beefy187
GeneralHankerchief
Chaotix27
Reenk Roink
Seireikhaan
woad&fangs
TevashSzat
YLC

:surprised: i'm thinking now that there might not even be a mafia, and atpg is having us on, maybe the mafia can't kill, and they literally have to talk there way to a win and survive the lynches, this must be the safest mafia ever, considering its a board of thief's and bandits that surprises me, so.... another round of mindless voting i assume :shrug:

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Originally Posted by 777Ares777

:surprised: i'm thinking now that there might not even be a mafia, and atpg is having us on, maybe the mafia can't kill, and they literally have to talk there way to a win and survive the lynches, this must be the safest mafia ever, considering its a board of thief's and bandits that surprises me, so.... another round of mindless voting i assume :shrug:

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American propaganda.. If everyone has guns, it will keep them safe :laugh4:

It would be really tough for the mafia though, if they cant kill. If my assumption of one traitor and one FBI is correct then also the assumption that those two aren't allies it is neigh impossible for the mafias to survive the game for that long.

So I suspect there is more then one on each teams. Otherwise this game is way too hard for the baddies.

In case there are any concerns, I worked very hard to balance the game. The bad guys have an equal chance of winning or losing.

Wow, 14 hours after the write-up and no votes? What kind of twisted world are we living in??? :whip:

Quintus seems to be innocent by the write-up, I dont see any visible clues in there, unlike ED's lynch.

Anyhoo, an answer to Chaotix's accusation (gotta start the discussion somewhere...):

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Originally Posted by Chaotix

I think that he's using his silly persona as a defense so that he can vote for anyone he wants, with really no reason. Just because he's attracting attention to himself does not label him as careless and therefore innocent. Right now, he feels the most suspicious to me.

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You say I have used my "persona" as a shield, yet when have I used my "persona" as a defence from votes? If anything, it has attracted more votes for me (mainly because I am the only one doing it) :shame:. Seems a bit counterproductive no?

As for using it as an excuse, did my vote for Quintus came about because I want to kill him? No, it came about because he had suspicious voting activities, as noted by others.

Finally, your last point is perhaps the most sensible, of course I shouldn't be deemed innocent because I am roleplaying... but neither should I be on the top of the list when there are 13 other players who do not roleplay, and we cannot deem them innocent either could we?

Now, I decide to Vote: Chaotix, because of the stuff noted above and because he was one of the most lurkiest players here ('khaan has fewer posts but he answered other people's inquisitions quite suitably) This vote will be changed should new info become available.

You may call the vote a personal vendetta, I call it the spark that will ignite the whole discussion thingy.

Hm. The main reason I called you out before was because it seemed like you were roleplaying as a way to stay alive. Let me elaborate: You roleplay as a nutcase who wants to kill people. Yes, some people, like me, will think this is suspicious and vote for you for it. However, others will see it as you just acting silly: because if you were mafia, it would be a careless thing to do, so surely you must be a townie if you have such little regard for everyone else's suspicions on you. By the same card, you can, then, be mafia, and just be using reverse psychology. It's similar to ATPG's playstyle.

And I probably would have let you off now if it weren't for the revenge vote. Vote: shlin

Finally, as for my absence/lurking, this can be attributed to two things:

-For the most part the main discussion has been on subjects other than you, who I did not find as suspicious
-Christmas has kept me busy. Now that it's over, I should be able to devote more attention to mafia.

Vote: YLC

For inventing reasons to vote for other players, for massive WIFOM, and for using WIFOM to defend your use of WIFOM.

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Originally Posted by 777Ares777

i hope im not put in the lime like for this but im doing u all a favour breaking the tie


unvote: W&F
vote: quintus
sorry but i think shlins innocent, hes always voted out soon, and he is roleplaying, sorry quinus, just to move us on :shrug: i think your the more likely of the two

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The tie was already broken by a Mr. Roink.

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Originally Posted by seireikhaan

Vote: YLC

For inventing reasons to vote for other players, for massive WIFOM, and for using WIFOM to defend your use of WIFOM.

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Although I liked your reasoning I think ill stick with Reenk for the time being.

I want to hear you defend your self before I go voting for another person

Vote:Reenk Roink

Sorry, was absent for a day celebrating with the family.

To answer SK's vote - yes, I used WIFOM, because believe it or not, it's how I think (not that it's erver really helped me :laugh4:), and I cannot help that. I don't even see the WIFOM in my own posts how ever, although please notify me if my answers, questions posed, or questions answered are not satisfactory, and in what way, and I will try to answer correctly.

As to making up a reason to vote for someone, I never did, at least not in my eyes. GH voted for a very lazy and thoughtless action and I called him out on it, that was all. I had no one better to vote for, and GH seemed scummy to me, and yes, in the first round, I did a revenge vote because GH forced me to commit suicide in your own mafia (however funny and humiliating it maybe at the same time), but I voted him in the second round because of his vote, is there something else you want me to go on besides posting and voting behavior right now? If so, please point it out - an ignorant townie is sometimes worse then the mafia themselves.

You accused GH of trying to "dominate the discussion with strawmen" when you voted for him. GH was not doing so, though he was indeed talking a little more than he usually does. When I called you out on it, you admitted it was flimsy(not that it even achieved that level of strength in reality) reasoning. However, you still vote him anyways. You claim to not see the WIFOM in your posts, yet you readily admit to using it prolifically. :inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by 187Beefyz

Although I liked your reasoning I think ill stick with Reenk for the time being.

I want to hear you defend your self before I go voting for another person

Vote:Reenk Roink

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Why are you so intent on killing me?

Vote: 187Beefyz

Retaliation vote yes, the most noble form of voting. :bow:

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Originally Posted by seireikhaan

You accused GH of trying to "dominate the discussion with strawmen" when you voted for him. GH was not doing so, though he was indeed talking a little more than he usually does. When I called you out on it, you admitted it was flimsy(not that it even achieved that level of strength in reality) reasoning. However, you still vote him anyways. You claim to not see the WIFOM in your posts, yet you readily admit to using it prolifically. :inquisitive:

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Yes it was flimsy - I thought GH was trying to dominate the conversation by falsely accusing White Eyes, is that not a strawman? If not, please tell me what the real definition is so I do not use it incorrectly any further.

As for the WIFOM, no I do not see it, but you claim it is there, and thus I defer to your more experienced judgment on such matters - I take your word for it, since it can obviously be confirmed by other players and accusing someone based on "false" WIFOM me will only get the conversation turned on yourself.

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Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

Why are you so intent on killing me?

Vote: 187Beefyz

Retaliation vote yes, the most noble form of voting. :bow:

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vote:reenk roink

Beefy was asking to hear more from you, instead you do a OMGUS vote and don't answer or address his question :shrug: and all this "retaliation" voting isn't useful for destroying the mafias, by simply attacking someone because they voted for you, even though there probably innocent

confirm in an unedited post vote: reenk roink god this rule is annoying seeing as i edit almost all my posts :yes:
:dizzy2: :balloon2: :dizzy2:

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Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

Why are you so intent on killing me?

Vote: 187Beefyz

Retaliation vote yes, the most noble form of voting. :bow:

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Because you didn't give me a reason not to :bow:

Come lads, Let us not start a bandwagon on Reenk. We two are just casually questioning each other. :clown:

I'm tempted to vote everyone who's jumping on this ridiculous Reenk bandwagon, but I want answers from Tevash for this post:

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Originally Posted by TevashSzat

Hmm.....GH voted for white_eyes a few post above yours. Were you trying to break the huge 1 vote tie to get someoney lynched?

Vote:Beefy

As for White_eyes I don't really see anything from him thats suspicious. Ares isn't acting that scummy either so I dunno who we should lynch....

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Why did you say "I dunno who we should lynch" right after you voted Beefy?

Vote: Tevash

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Originally Posted by YLC

Yes it was flimsy - I thought GH was trying to dominate the conversation by falsely accusing White Eyes, is that not a strawman? If not, please tell me what the real definition is so I do not use it incorrectly any further.

As for the WIFOM, no I do not see it, but you claim it is there, and thus I defer to your more experienced judgment on such matters - I take your word for it, since it can obviously be confirmed by other players and accusing someone based on "false" WIFOM me will only get the conversation turned on yourself.

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Falsely accusing WhiteEyes(of what? He admitted to having mis-interpreted his statement, apologized, and unvoted White Eyes :inquisitive:) is not a strawman. A strawman would be ignoring WhiteEye's defense and continue attacking, which GH did not do. For the definition, here's wiki for you.

WIFOM= Wine In Front Of Me, referencing the scene from Princess Bride. "Well, I wouln't use such odd behavior if I was a mafioso, but I might do it if I knew that you knew I wouldn't use such odd behavior. Unless I knew that you knew that I knew that you knew that I wouldn't use such odd behavior". Basically, that's what WIFOM is. Saying "Well, yes I'm using WIFOM" is in itself more WIFOM. You're practically oozing the stuff.

Also a negative towards your behavior was the self-preservation vote towards the end of the first round of voting.

Well, with no kills to go off of.....I choose Vote:No lynch....since my simple paranoia is not enough...:book: (I still has no idea but even though you may vote for me for mentioning it GH...:sweatdrop:) I think we should look at the roles that got knocked off, maybe there is something there....and double check the write-ups....don't know maybe something is there?:shrug:

Gentlemen, compare last night's write up with the previous.

Do you think it's possible that Quintus was the FBI agent?



This round is going very interesting. Currently I'm going to vote:nolynch, but will likely change it.

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Originally Posted by seireikhaan

Falsely accusing WhiteEyes(of what? He admitted to having mis-interpreted his statement, apologized, and unvoted White Eyes :inquisitive:) is not a strawman. A strawman would be ignoring WhiteEye's defense and continue attacking, which GH did not do. For the definition, here's wiki for you.

WIFOM= Wine In Front Of Me, referencing the scene from Princess Bride. "Well, I wouln't use such odd behavior if I was a mafioso, but I might do it if I knew that you knew I wouldn't use such odd behavior. Unless I knew that you knew that I knew that you knew that I wouldn't use such odd behavior". Basically, that's what WIFOM is. Saying "Well, yes I'm using WIFOM" is in itself more WIFOM. You're practically oozing the stuff.

Also a negative towards your behavior was the self-preservation vote towards the end of the first round of voting.

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He falsely accused White Eyes of being the "FBI agent" role, which he wasn't, and of trying to lynch people based on role, which had long dropped and even said that it wasn't a good basis. I had nothing at the time but this, so I pursued it, hoping something would come up. Nothing did, as you have pointed out. And thank you for the link, I hope to actually use "strawman" properly now :laugh4:

I did say I know what WIFOM means, in fact, that's how I think, by trying to think like another. I try to keep turning the crystal in my hands, seeing as many new angles and faucets as I can, to see things from different perspectives as much as possible. It may lead no where, it may lead somewhere, but that is how I think.

And I said I am using WIFOM because you say I am, how am I supposed to say I am using WIFOM without actually saying I am using WIFOM (which is more WIFOM?)? Please clarify.

As to the "Defensive Vote" (against El Diablo?), How else do you want me to explain it? He voted for me even though he said Ares was more suspicious, but I was the easy target, and I called him out on it. He even admitted to using that vote to try and save himself.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

I'm tempted to vote everyone who's jumping on this ridiculous Reenk bandwagon, but I want answers from Tevash for this post:



Why did you say "I dunno who we should lynch" right after you voted Beefy?

Vote: Tevash

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Well, my vote for beefy was just basically a pressure vote to try to get him to talk. I had no intention of really gunning for him to be lynched and was just trying to get the discussion away from the fairly worthless discussion that was going on before.

As for my later statement, white_eyes and ares were in the lead to be lynched, but neither seem that scummy to me, which is what I was referring to.

Vote: TevashSzat

After doing a quick readthrough of your posts it appears that you were the first to push for a mass reveal yet you then said this :inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by TevashSzat

Hmmm.....I dunno, we're still just randomly voting....I would think that ATPG assigned the roles randomly rather have some predetermined role be the FBI/traitor

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Originally Posted by woad&fangs

Vote: TevashSzat

After doing a quick readthrough of your posts it appears that you were the first to push for a mass reveal yet you then said this :inquisitive:

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Its both effective. In round 1 there is very limited stuff to go on with, might as well reveal our roles so we got something to go on with. Also its nice feeling to know the talents amongst our gang.

What he later said is also correct. FBI agent and the traitor is not likely to be someone who is extremely obvious. So this is also likely to be true. Now we have a rather large WIFOM.

I don't blame Tevash for voting for me. However I do want to say I've been fairly active.... Well I hope so. So if you were really after pressure votes, weren't there better options?

Tally

Chaotix-1
Shlin-1
YLC-1
Reenk-2
Beefy-1
Tevash-2
NoLynch-2

No lynch will be the case if there is a majority yes?

What if its a tie between few players and no lynch? Is there a possibility that it will be no lynch?

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Originally Posted by 187Beefyz

No lynch will be the case if there is a majority yes?

What if its a tie between few players and no lynch? Is there a possibility that it will be no lynch?

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not sure, by the way i wasn't really bandwagonning reenk, just agreeing that it would be nice to hear from him, and his response was very poor

unvote: reenk roink

i don't suppose no lynch will help at all, but i may have to use it seeing as the clues are pitiful

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Originally Posted by 187Beefyz

No lynch will be the case if there is a majority yes?

What if its a tie between few players and no lynch? Is there a possibility that it will be no lynch?

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No lynch will be the case if there is a majority. I am not sure what I will do if no lynch ties with a person, I may just wait for a tiebreaker, or I might randomize it, or I might select whichever choice is worse for town.

So I come back from my little holiday and fmyself systematly lynched from all the games... :no:

Go town :sweatdrop:

Chaotix-1
Shlin-1
YLC-1
Reenk-1
Beefy-1
Tevash-2
NoLynch-2


The tally is tied between No Lynch and TevashSzat. I have decided that the next vote will break the tie.

Vote :whip:

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Chaotix-1
Shlin-1
YLC-1
Reenk-2
Beefy-1
Tevash-2
NoLynch-2


The tally is tied between No Lynch, Reenk Roink, and TevashSzat. I have decided that the next vote will break the tie.

Vote :whip:

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I believe theres only one vote on Reenk as you seemed to count Ares' mistaken vote :bow:

My bad.

I need tally assistants, stat. :wall:

Okay, edited.

Vote: No lynch

The cases against Tevash is not very strong (hell mines stronger by far), so I'd rather the day remain uneventful with no lynch and continue the discussion into another day.

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Originally Posted by YLC

Vote: No lynch

The cases against Tevash is not very strong (hell mines stronger by far), so I'd rather the day remain uneventful with no lynch and continue the discussion into another day.

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But I want someone to die.. :sweatdrop:...:clown:

Jokes aside, I suggest we lynch someone today. If we don't next phase will be exactly the same. No one dead. No further lead. Furthermore, as our host kindly put it Time is running out, I believe if we don't find that FBI agent... Everyone loses (except that FBI dude)

As for traitor. Since we are getting golds, traitor is probably wanting to be the last one alive to get all the gold for him self. So we have to lynch the bugger but FBI should be our first priority.

To do that, we need more much more discussion, much more fuzzy votes. Much more arguments just like GH and YLC had. Lets do something!

Day Four

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CLASSIFIED FBI LOG
Agent 824, Headquarters

The criminals on board the ship have again decided to spare one another. The clock is ticking... if we are to make a move, it has to be now.

The observation continues, and nobody suspects a thing, but the situation is dangerous. That's what I signed up for.

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Night Four-

The tanker sailed on... every cabin was locked tightly. They all survived until the next morning. But there was at least one person sweating profusely, possibly more.






Begin Day Five.

Still Alive:


Yoyoma1910
Shlin28
Quintus.JC
Aries777777
WhiteEyes
El Diablo
Beefy187
GeneralHankerchief
Chaotix27
Reenk Roink
Seireikhaan
woad&fangs
TevashSzat
YLC

Vote: YLC

Because the FBI will win if we keep nolynching. But perhaps you already knew that:whip:

And what? Vote for Tevash and have people jump on me for lynching on poor evidence? No thank you, I have to defend myself from Khaan enough :laugh4:.

Seriously, how do you know the FBI would win? Are you in fact certain of that? What evidence clearly points to the FBI winning if we do not lynch everyday to find him? What convinces you Tevash is the FBI agent? Please state clearly why your in a sure fire mood to lynch at all?

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And what? Vote for Tevash and have people jump on me for lynching on poor evidence? No thank you, I have to defend myself from Khaan enough :laugh4:.

Seriously, how do you know the FBI would win? Are you in fact certain of that? What evidence clearly points to the FBI winning if we do not lynch everyday to find him? What convinces you Tevash is the FBI agent? Please state clearly why your in a sure fire mood to lynch at all?

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CLASSIFIED FBI LOG
Agent 824, Headquarters

The criminals on board the ship have again decided to spare one another. The clock is ticking... if we are to make a move, it has to be now.

The observation continues, and nobody suspects a thing, but the situation is dangerous. That's what I signed up for.

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I agree with W&F. It sounds like we need to catch the FBI agent quickly.

I looked at that and interpreted it in a different way then you. To me, it would be very unfair to impose a time limit on the town, so in my mind, it's merely stating that the FBI Agents time is running out, not the towns. That is my opinion of the current situation.

As for WF vote however, how is it founded? He voted for me on the basis that I did not lynch Tevash - if the Agent is Tevash, then vote Tevash, correct?

I want to say here, I am loving this discussion. Everyone is doing a fairly good job at thinking critically and keeping an open mind.

Well, it seemed clear enough to me that we were running out of time. I think it would make for an extremely boring game if the town sat around and didn't lynch and the mafia sat around and didn't kill. In fact, if the town and mafia aren't trying to kill each other, it doesn't make for much of a game at all.

So I would therefore reason that since the FBI Agent's goal is to get rid of us all, he must have some other method to doing it than killing one of us each night. Perhaps that method is a time limit: some sort of a helicopter raid or something, that would take a certain amount of days to reach the tanker. We need to get rid of the Agent before he can order that attack.

I see YLC as looking for more reasons to stall, and that stands out as scummy to me.

Vote: YLC

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I want to say here, I am loving this discussion. Everyone is doing a fairly good job at thinking critically and keeping an open mind.

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Does that mean that you hate the discussion, and that everyone is thinking in a close minded manner?


And where's the friggin' sharks with laser beams we were promised? I want to lodge a formal complant with "mastermind" of this operation.

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Originally Posted by Yoyoma1910

And where's the friggin' sharks with laser beams we were promised? I want to lodge a formal complant with "mastermind" of this operation.

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Umm......someone forgot to put salt into the shark tanks so all of them died. We got the laser beams, but they're just laser pointers and don't really do much damage unless you stare at it

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Originally Posted by TevashSzat

Umm......someone forgot to put salt into the shark tanks so all of them died. We got the laser beams, but they're just laser pointers and don't really do much damage unless you stare at it

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I guess that's what happens when you don't have a "logistics expert" on you squad. Who's the accountant? I voting for them for not coughing up the 10 bucks for a few boxes of salt.

Hmmmmm... Yoyoma says "we need to catch the FBI agent ASAP", yet votes no-one. I mean, withholding you vote so that more discussion take place is all well and good, but basically in this game the only thing we gained this phase was the FBI note, so all of the scummy behaviour that may have occured would have occured already before, so we should all have enough info to vote for someone without waiting for further discussion.

Vote: Yoyoma, for waiting when he should be lynching.

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Un-freakin'-believable. This is embarrassing. The town won't even use its lone, single weapon against the mafia. :no:

Vote: YLC

I will not stop until you are lynched or exonerated through a detective.

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Hmmmmm... Yoyoma says "we need to catch the FBI agent ASAP", yet votes no-one. I mean, withholding you vote so that more discussion take place is all well and good, but basically in this game the only thing we gained this phase was the FBI note, so all of the scummy behaviour that may have occured would have occured already before, so we should all have enough info to vote for someone without waiting for further discussion.

Vote: Yoyoma, for waiting when he should be lynching.

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That is true. Last round I didn't change my vote, as I thought I would. I've been a bit distracted lately.

Anyway, I didn't say that until this round, because I thought last round we had possibly caught the FBI agent, since there wasn't a FBI log in the write up as there had been the previous night. Also, the way it was writen seemed to lead itself to sound like someone had been caught. Now I see I was in error.



I'm going to vote:Aries. I still find his playing style suspicious.

Looks like I had my theory right. FBI agent has to be caught ASAP.

YLCs have been fairly constructive. Creating discussion and voting for someone. FBI strategy would be stay on low profile. Which does not fit YLCs behavior.

Although I did vote for Tevesh, I don't think its likely that the gang leader is the mole. Thats way to straight forward from my liking. His good to go for now.

I am more worried about White_eyes and Yoyoma for voting for no lynch. ATPG would not let us vote for no lynch over and over again. We have to start lynching people, ignoring the casualties or else, FBI is going to snatch his victory.

Yoyomas excuse is rather lazy but at least he came up with a excuse. I am going to vote White_eyes even though I know that his going to start a huge Beef steak fest.

Vote: White_eyes

Yoyoma, may i ask why you find me suspicious? this always happens :juggle2:


i would also point out that choatix and seireikhaan bandwagon voting against YLC for being constructive and making some good points IMO , is a bit hasty

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

(i just couldn't bring myself to put FoS towards them :clown: )

So, someone tell me who to vote for and why, and i will, my vote is in your hands, i think.... :shrug:

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Originally Posted by 777Ares777

Yoyoma, may i ask why you find me suspicious? this always happens :juggle2:


i would also point out that choatix and seireikhaan bandwagon voting against YLC for being constructive and making some good points IMO , is a bit hasty

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

(i just couldn't bring myself to put FoS towards them :clown: )

So, someone tell me who to vote for and why, and i will, my vote is in your hands, i think.... :shrug:

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Well, I guess I've never fully been convinced of your innocence, but I'm trying to keep an open mind, as noone else seems to agree with me. :shrug:

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Originally Posted by 777Ares777

:surprised: i'm thinking now that there might not even be a mafia, and atpg is having us on, maybe the mafia can't kill, and they literally have to talk there way to a win and survive the lynches, this must be the safest mafia ever, considering its a board of thief's and bandits that surprises me, so.... another round of mindless voting i assume :shrug:

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This post sounds fishy to me.

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Originally Posted by 777Ares777

i hope im not put in the lime like for this but im doing u all a favour breaking the tie


unvote: W&F
vote: quintus
sorry but i think shlins innocent, hes always voted out soon, and he is roleplaying, sorry quinus, just to move us on :shrug: i think your the more likely of the two

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Reenk Roink had already broken the tie.

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Originally Posted by 187Beefyz

Yoyomas excuse is rather lazy but at least he came up with a excuse. I am going to vote White_eyes even though I know that his going to start a huge Beef steak fest.

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As you can see from this post last round, I was trying to analyze the situation by comparing the style and wording of the write ups.

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Originally Posted by Yoyoma1910

Gentlemen, compare last night's write up with the previous.

Do you think it's possible that Quintus was the FBI agent?



This round is going very interesting. Currently I'm going to vote:nolynch, but will likely change it.

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But I was wrong. It seems that when we don't lynch someone, or possibly every other night, we get an FBI file. But when we do execute someone, we don't get an FBI file, and instead get a murder scene.

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Originally Posted by Yoyoma1910

But I was wrong. It seems that when we don't lynch someone, or possibly every other night, we get an FBI file. But when we do execute someone, we don't get an FBI file, and instead get a murder scene.

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About Ares, I cannot fully agree with you. Ares theory at this point was fairly plausible. There is no kills so far other then the lynch. I doubt that there is even characters who can kill.

But as for the second quote, careless mistake Ares:smash:

I don't think evidence against Ares is enough to get him lynched. But I suppose some is better then none and we do have to lynch someone anyway.

Very good point about the FBI logs. Your absolutely right. The night when Quintus died we had no FBI logs but when we lynched no one we did. But I don't think convincing the towns for multiple none lynch is particular an easy job for the FBIs. So I don't think the number of logs got anything to do with FBIs victory conditions but rather how many turns he is able to survive.

Umm..

UnFoS: Yoyoma? :clown:

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Originally Posted by Chaotix27

Well, it seemed clear enough to me that we were running out of time. I think it would make for an extremely boring game if the town sat around and didn't lynch and the mafia sat around and didn't kill. In fact, if the town and mafia aren't trying to kill each other, it doesn't make for much of a game at all.

So I would therefore reason that since the FBI Agent's goal is to get rid of us all, he must have some other method to doing it than killing one of us each night. Perhaps that method is a time limit: some sort of a helicopter raid or something, that would take a certain amount of days to reach the tanker. We need to get rid of the Agent before he can order that attack.

I see YLC as looking for more reasons to stall, and that stands out as scummy to me.

Vote: YLC

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Again, I am not drawing the same conclusion you are about our time to catch the FBI agent, that would be very unfair to the town if we had only a mere handful of turns to lynch someone, and it unfairly tips the balance of the game in favor of the FBI agent. Your making snap judgements based on unprovable data, or even nonexistant data.

Your all willing to jump on me for voting no lynch, but in my eyes the FBI agent is not Tevash, and so I went with what I thought was the best option. Were not going to get many clues in this game people, ATPG said so himself, so we can't just go lynch crazy and hope something comes up in the write ups - we have to depend on verbal discussion to win this one, between ourselves.

I am not stalling, that's a ridiculous notion. I advocate the use of the lynch, but I advocate it's use wisely - IMHO we would have gained, if not lost, something if we lynched Tevash, and so I took IMHO, the best course of action.

That said, no one yet has explained the logic behind why I should have voted for Tevash reasonably well yet.

Apologies for my absence, I've been doing stuff IRL.

Vote: GH

Until I catch up on the thread.

Unvote, Vote: YLC

In normal mafia, towns are lynching someone every night. That is because mafia gets the kill every night, especially when theres more then 2 kills, towns are in deep trouble unless they lynch the scums real quickly.

However this mafia is different from any game I have played in so far. Because no one dies during the night. Well at least so far no one has died. If thats the case then there is nothing which would stop the towns from not lynching anyone for the whole game and the game drags on. Only possible theory that the host can do is invent a role who wins if they survives number of rounds. And ATPG notices us by saying stuff like "time is running out"

It will make sense as we are about to steal the gold bars. And if FBI agent manage to survive until we actually goes for the gold, he can notify the police or what ever which place we are stealing from and can catch us without a warrant.

If we keep up our no lynchs and ends up losing the game then its too late to cry and say we should've done that, we should've started to lynch peoples earlier. True there is no prove that the FBI wins on time limit but its plausible theory. And its probably more likely that its true then its not at this point.

As for lynching Tevash, I'm against it. True that Tevash may be a FBI or a traitor. But if he is a FBI we can sue him for tricking us in to doing bad stuff. And we'll drag him down with us to hell. He could be a traitor like Joker in the opening scene of 'Dark Knights' but from animes or mangas perspective, boss is 95 percent a decent good guy :clown: and is on our side. Boss who betrays their minions does not have honor :smash:

Tevash wasn't in risk of getting lynched last night. Ares unvoted and Ares accidentally had two votes on him. So at the end, it was just me I believe.

Unvote: GH
Vote: Tevash

I'm satisfied with his response to my question, but woad also made a good point against him and I want to hear him respond to that.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Unvote: GH
Vote: Tevash

I'm satisfied with his response to my question, but woad also made a good point against him and I want to hear him respond to that.

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Are you speaking to me for clarity?

No. Tevash.

I read the opening setting again. Seems like I can't read for crap.:wall:

Well at least I seem to be on the right track about the FBIs role in this game

Um, what :inquisitive:?

As far as I can tell, it was between Tevash and No lynch, you weren't in the running Beefy...

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Originally Posted by YLC

Um, what :inquisitive:?

As far as I can tell, it was between Tevash and No lynch, you weren't in the running Beefy...

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Nah Tevash had 1 vote. I voted for him. Ares voted for him.. Twice. Then unvoted. So he had one votes at least the last time I checked.

I meant I voted for Tevash, not I was in the running. Sorry. :shame:

It's fine Beefy

I would kindly ask that the Host end the day early :bow:

Wrong again.:wall:

me and ares voted for Reenk. Dear me.

Lynch me now for my stupidity :wall:

Sorry YLC

Unvote: YLC

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Unvote: GH
Vote: Tevash

I'm satisfied with his response to my question, but woad also made a good point against him and I want to hear him respond to that.

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I wanted the role mass reveal b/c ATPG often has hints in his writeups. These hints are most likely related to each person's role on the ship. Thus, it would be the best if we know who everyone was beforehand.

That being said, these roles were probably randomly distributed so voting for people due to their role name's mafia like qualities with just ridiculous.

Umm.....can anyone put up a tally?

Tally
YLC - 3(Woad&Fangs, Chaotix, Khaan)
Yoyoma - 1(Shlin28)
Aries - 1(Yoyoma)
Tevash - 1(GH)

As best as I can tell, that is the current Tally :bow:

Ill go back to my original vote

Vote: White_eyes

About me voting for quintus last round, i didnt realize reenk broke the tie, regardless in a way its useful having plenty of votes on a person to stop someone doing a last minute change, probably resulting in no lynch, and a likely stronger FBI, i don't think YLC id guilty but i'm usually wrong


vote no lynch
only because i'd be seen suspiciously if i voted for tevash or yoyoma, and there isn't any others i would vote against :shrug:

And now we have a huge bandwagon on YLC... :inquisitive:

I told you folks just to let me install cameras all aboard the ship but noooo... :rolleyes:

Vote: Chaotix27

You've been getting off the hook recently for whatever reason.

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Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

And now we have a huge bandwagon on YLC... :inquisitive:

I told you folks just to let me install cameras all aboard the ship but noooo... :rolleyes:

Vote: Chaotix27

You've been getting off the hook recently for whatever reason.

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Off the Hook? Whats he done?

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Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

And now we have a huge bandwagon on YLC... :inquisitive:

I told you folks just to let me install cameras all aboard the ship but noooo... :rolleyes:

Vote: Chaotix27

You've been getting off the hook recently for whatever reason.

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Yeah, what exactly have I done that makes me look suspicious?


To YLC: Your explanation seems to make sense for now, although I still believe our ideas on the game's mechanics are wildly different. Unvote: YLC for now, but I am still suspicious of you, and the repeated NoLynch tactic you were trying did look like stalling for time to me.

If we are all so scared about this FBI dude why don't we just lynch one guy, vote no lynch the next day, see what the FBI agent says in his message, lynch another guy the next day, see FBI agent's message, and so on etc....

Its foolproof :smash: