The Golden Rule [Concluded]

[Beefy187]

Chaotix-1
Shlin-1
YLC-1
Reenk-2
Beefy-1
Tevash-2
NoLynch-2


The tally is tied between No Lynch, Reenk Roink, and TevashSzat. I have decided that the next vote will break the tie.

Vote

I believe theres only one vote on Reenk as you seemed to count Ares' mistaken vote

[Askthepizzaguy]

My bad.

I need tally assistants, stat.

Okay, edited.

[ULC]

Vote: No lynch

The cases against Tevash is not very strong (hell mines stronger by far), so I'd rather the day remain uneventful with no lynch and continue the discussion into another day.

[Beefy187]

Vote: No lynch

The cases against Tevash is not very strong (hell mines stronger by far), so I'd rather the day remain uneventful with no lynch and continue the discussion into another day.

But I want someone to die.. ...

Jokes aside, I suggest we lynch someone today. If we don't next phase will be exactly the same. No one dead. No further lead. Furthermore, as our host kindly put it Time is running out, I believe if we don't find that FBI agent... Everyone loses (except that FBI dude)

As for traitor. Since we are getting golds, traitor is probably wanting to be the last one alive to get all the gold for him self. So we have to lynch the bugger but FBI should be our first priority.

To do that, we need more much more discussion, much more fuzzy votes. Much more arguments just like GH and YLC had. Lets do something!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Day Four

CLASSIFIED FBI LOG
Agent 824, Headquarters

The criminals on board the ship have again decided to spare one another. The clock is ticking... if we are to make a move, it has to be now.

The observation continues, and nobody suspects a thing, but the situation is dangerous. That's what I signed up for.

Night Four-

The tanker sailed on... every cabin was locked tightly. They all survived until the next morning. But there was at least one person sweating profusely, possibly more.






Begin Day Five.

Still Alive:


Yoyoma1910
Shlin28
Quintus.JC
Aries777777
WhiteEyes
El Diablo
Beefy187
GeneralHankerchief
Chaotix27
Reenk Roink
Seireikhaan
woad&fangs
TevashSzat
YLC

[woad&fangs]

Vote: YLC

Because the FBI will win if we keep nolynching. But perhaps you already knew that

[ULC]

And what? Vote for Tevash and have people jump on me for lynching on poor evidence? No thank you, I have to defend myself from Khaan enough .

Seriously, how do you know the FBI would win? Are you in fact certain of that? What evidence clearly points to the FBI winning if we do not lynch everyday to find him? What convinces you Tevash is the FBI agent? Please state clearly why your in a sure fire mood to lynch at all?

[Yoyoma1910]

And what? Vote for Tevash and have people jump on me for lynching on poor evidence? No thank you, I have to defend myself from Khaan enough .

Seriously, how do you know the FBI would win? Are you in fact certain of that? What evidence clearly points to the FBI winning if we do not lynch everyday to find him? What convinces you Tevash is the FBI agent? Please state clearly why your in a sure fire mood to lynch at all?

Quote:
CLASSIFIED FBI LOG
Agent 824, Headquarters

The criminals on board the ship have again decided to spare one another. The clock is ticking... if we are to make a move, it has to be now.

The observation continues, and nobody suspects a thing, but the situation is dangerous. That's what I signed up for.

I agree with W&F. It sounds like we need to catch the FBI agent quickly.

[ULC]

I looked at that and interpreted it in a different way then you. To me, it would be very unfair to impose a time limit on the town, so in my mind, it's merely stating that the FBI Agents time is running out, not the towns. That is my opinion of the current situation.

As for WF vote however, how is it founded? He voted for me on the basis that I did not lynch Tevash - if the Agent is Tevash, then vote Tevash, correct?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I want to say here, I am loving this discussion. Everyone is doing a fairly good job at thinking critically and keeping an open mind.

[Chaotix]

Well, it seemed clear enough to me that we were running out of time. I think it would make for an extremely boring game if the town sat around and didn't lynch and the mafia sat around and didn't kill. In fact, if the town and mafia aren't trying to kill each other, it doesn't make for much of a game at all.

So I would therefore reason that since the FBI Agent's goal is to get rid of us all, he must have some other method to doing it than killing one of us each night. Perhaps that method is a time limit: some sort of a helicopter raid or something, that would take a certain amount of days to reach the tanker. We need to get rid of the Agent before he can order that attack.

I see YLC as looking for more reasons to stall, and that stands out as scummy to me.

Vote: YLC

[Yoyoma1910]

I want to say here, I am loving this discussion. Everyone is doing a fairly good job at thinking critically and keeping an open mind.

Does that mean that you hate the discussion, and that everyone is thinking in a close minded manner?


And where's the friggin' sharks with laser beams we were promised? I want to lodge a formal complant with "mastermind" of this operation.

[TevashSzat]

And where's the friggin' sharks with laser beams we were promised? I want to lodge a formal complant with "mastermind" of this operation.

Umm......someone forgot to put salt into the shark tanks so all of them died. We got the laser beams, but they're just laser pointers and don't really do much damage unless you stare at it

[Yoyoma1910]

Umm......someone forgot to put salt into the shark tanks so all of them died. We got the laser beams, but they're just laser pointers and don't really do much damage unless you stare at it

I guess that's what happens when you don't have a "logistics expert" on you squad. Who's the accountant? I voting for them for not coughing up the 10 bucks for a few boxes of salt.

[shlin28]

Hmmmmm... Yoyoma says "we need to catch the FBI agent ASAP", yet votes no-one. I mean, withholding you vote so that more discussion take place is all well and good, but basically in this game the only thing we gained this phase was the FBI note, so all of the scummy behaviour that may have occured would have occured already before, so we should all have enough info to vote for someone without waiting for further discussion.

Vote: Yoyoma, for waiting when he should be lynching.

[seireikhaan]

Un-freakin'-believable. This is embarrassing. The town won't even use its lone, single weapon against the mafia.

Vote: YLC

I will not stop until you are lynched or exonerated through a detective.

[Yoyoma1910]

Hmmmmm... Yoyoma says "we need to catch the FBI agent ASAP", yet votes no-one. I mean, withholding you vote so that more discussion take place is all well and good, but basically in this game the only thing we gained this phase was the FBI note, so all of the scummy behaviour that may have occured would have occured already before, so we should all have enough info to vote for someone without waiting for further discussion.

Vote: Yoyoma, for waiting when he should be lynching.

That is true. Last round I didn't change my vote, as I thought I would. I've been a bit distracted lately.

Anyway, I didn't say that until this round, because I thought last round we had possibly caught the FBI agent, since there wasn't a FBI log in the write up as there had been the previous night. Also, the way it was writen seemed to lead itself to sound like someone had been caught. Now I see I was in error.



I'm going to vote:Aries. I still find his playing style suspicious.

[Beefy187]

Looks like I had my theory right. FBI agent has to be caught ASAP.

YLCs have been fairly constructive. Creating discussion and voting for someone. FBI strategy would be stay on low profile. Which does not fit YLCs behavior.

Although I did vote for Tevesh, I don't think its likely that the gang leader is the mole. Thats way to straight forward from my liking. His good to go for now.

I am more worried about White_eyes and Yoyoma for voting for no lynch. ATPG would not let us vote for no lynch over and over again. We have to start lynching people, ignoring the casualties or else, FBI is going to snatch his victory.

Yoyomas excuse is rather lazy but at least he came up with a excuse. I am going to vote White_eyes even though I know that his going to start a huge Beef steak fest.

Vote: White_eyes

[Thermal]

Yoyoma, may i ask why you find me suspicious? this always happens


i would also point out that choatix and seireikhaan bandwagon voting against YLC for being constructive and making some good points IMO , is a bit hasty

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

(i just couldn't bring myself to put FoS towards them )

So, someone tell me who to vote for and why, and i will, my vote is in your hands, i think....

[Yoyoma1910]

Yoyoma, may i ask why you find me suspicious? this always happens


i would also point out that choatix and seireikhaan bandwagon voting against YLC for being constructive and making some good points IMO , is a bit hasty

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

(i just couldn't bring myself to put FoS towards them )

So, someone tell me who to vote for and why, and i will, my vote is in your hands, i think....

Well, I guess I've never fully been convinced of your innocence, but I'm trying to keep an open mind, as noone else seems to agree with me.

i'm thinking now that there might not even be a mafia, and atpg is having us on, maybe the mafia can't kill, and they literally have to talk there way to a win and survive the lynches, this must be the safest mafia ever, considering its a board of thief's and bandits that surprises me, so.... another round of mindless voting i assume

This post sounds fishy to me.

i hope im not put in the lime like for this but im doing u all a favour breaking the tie


unvote: W&F
vote: quintus
sorry but i think shlins innocent, hes always voted out soon, and he is roleplaying, sorry quinus, just to move us on i think your the more likely of the two

Reenk Roink had already broken the tie.

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Yoyomas excuse is rather lazy but at least he came up with a excuse. I am going to vote White_eyes even though I know that his going to start a huge Beef steak fest.

As you can see from this post last round, I was trying to analyze the situation by comparing the style and wording of the write ups.

Gentlemen, compare last night's write up with the previous.

Do you think it's possible that Quintus was the FBI agent?



This round is going very interesting. Currently I'm going to vote:nolynch, but will likely change it.

But I was wrong. It seems that when we don't lynch someone, or possibly every other night, we get an FBI file. But when we do execute someone, we don't get an FBI file, and instead get a murder scene.

[Beefy187]

But I was wrong. It seems that when we don't lynch someone, or possibly every other night, we get an FBI file. But when we do execute someone, we don't get an FBI file, and instead get a murder scene.

About Ares, I cannot fully agree with you. Ares theory at this point was fairly plausible. There is no kills so far other then the lynch. I doubt that there is even characters who can kill.

But as for the second quote, careless mistake Ares

I don't think evidence against Ares is enough to get him lynched. But I suppose some is better then none and we do have to lynch someone anyway.

Very good point about the FBI logs. Your absolutely right. The night when Quintus died we had no FBI logs but when we lynched no one we did. But I don't think convincing the towns for multiple none lynch is particular an easy job for the FBIs. So I don't think the number of logs got anything to do with FBIs victory conditions but rather how many turns he is able to survive.

Umm..

UnFoS: Yoyoma?

[ULC]

Well, it seemed clear enough to me that we were running out of time. I think it would make for an extremely boring game if the town sat around and didn't lynch and the mafia sat around and didn't kill. In fact, if the town and mafia aren't trying to kill each other, it doesn't make for much of a game at all.

So I would therefore reason that since the FBI Agent's goal is to get rid of us all, he must have some other method to doing it than killing one of us each night. Perhaps that method is a time limit: some sort of a helicopter raid or something, that would take a certain amount of days to reach the tanker. We need to get rid of the Agent before he can order that attack.

I see YLC as looking for more reasons to stall, and that stands out as scummy to me.

Vote: YLC

Again, I am not drawing the same conclusion you are about our time to catch the FBI agent, that would be very unfair to the town if we had only a mere handful of turns to lynch someone, and it unfairly tips the balance of the game in favor of the FBI agent. Your making snap judgements based on unprovable data, or even nonexistant data.

Your all willing to jump on me for voting no lynch, but in my eyes the FBI agent is not Tevash, and so I went with what I thought was the best option. Were not going to get many clues in this game people, ATPG said so himself, so we can't just go lynch crazy and hope something comes up in the write ups - we have to depend on verbal discussion to win this one, between ourselves.

I am not stalling, that's a ridiculous notion. I advocate the use of the lynch, but I advocate it's use wisely - IMHO we would have gained, if not lost, something if we lynched Tevash, and so I took IMHO, the best course of action.

That said, no one yet has explained the logic behind why I should have voted for Tevash reasonably well yet.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Apologies for my absence, I've been doing stuff IRL.

Vote: GH

Until I catch up on the thread.

[Beefy187]

Unvote, Vote: YLC

In normal mafia, towns are lynching someone every night. That is because mafia gets the kill every night, especially when theres more then 2 kills, towns are in deep trouble unless they lynch the scums real quickly.

However this mafia is different from any game I have played in so far. Because no one dies during the night. Well at least so far no one has died. If thats the case then there is nothing which would stop the towns from not lynching anyone for the whole game and the game drags on. Only possible theory that the host can do is invent a role who wins if they survives number of rounds. And ATPG notices us by saying stuff like "time is running out"

It will make sense as we are about to steal the gold bars. And if FBI agent manage to survive until we actually goes for the gold, he can notify the police or what ever which place we are stealing from and can catch us without a warrant.

If we keep up our no lynchs and ends up losing the game then its too late to cry and say we should've done that, we should've started to lynch peoples earlier. True there is no prove that the FBI wins on time limit but its plausible theory. And its probably more likely that its true then its not at this point.

As for lynching Tevash, I'm against it. True that Tevash may be a FBI or a traitor. But if he is a FBI we can sue him for tricking us in to doing bad stuff. And we'll drag him down with us to hell. He could be a traitor like Joker in the opening scene of 'Dark Knights' but from animes or mangas perspective, boss is 95 percent a decent good guy and is on our side. Boss who betrays their minions does not have honor

Tevash wasn't in risk of getting lynched last night. Ares unvoted and Ares accidentally had two votes on him. So at the end, it was just me I believe.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Unvote: GH
Vote: Tevash

I'm satisfied with his response to my question, but woad also made a good point against him and I want to hear him respond to that.

[ULC]

Unvote: GH
Vote: Tevash

I'm satisfied with his response to my question, but woad also made a good point against him and I want to hear him respond to that.

Are you speaking to me for clarity?

[GeneralHankerchief]

No. Tevash.

[Beefy187]

I read the opening setting again. Seems like I can't read for crap.

Well at least I seem to be on the right track about the FBIs role in this game

[ULC]

Um, what ?

As far as I can tell, it was between Tevash and No lynch, you weren't in the running Beefy...

[Beefy187]

Um, what ?

As far as I can tell, it was between Tevash and No lynch, you weren't in the running Beefy...

Nah Tevash had 1 vote. I voted for him. Ares voted for him.. Twice. Then unvoted. So he had one votes at least the last time I checked.

I meant I voted for Tevash, not I was in the running. Sorry.