Bandits and Mercenaries

Well, I think that was the fastest arranging for a mission that happened so far, lol. A good mission too.

Guy just bought 2 mounted seargeants to replace the losses from his battle with Octavian. Then we went into a battle with lots of maneuvering and actually very little bloodshed. Guy did very well, shepherding my vulnerable peasants across a valley, with Shaka's men dauntingly waiting on the other side.... The 4 units of peasants reached safety in the end with only 29 goods lost to the bandit.

The replay is here..

hehe, jus earned enough for my men to drink a beer...:P http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...evalcheers.gif
still was good fun ... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif
thx for the game, guy and nigel.

i would like to expand my army by a mounted crossbow unit and an arbalest, each valor 0.

regards shaka

btw, wot should happen if a units gains valor during a game?

That's a good point, Shaka.
In fact, Octavian also mentioned this earlier.

I thought about it too, only thing I am worrying a little is, that there could be an inflation of valour. But maybe those worries are unfounded.

I could say : submit a screenshot of the endscreen, and if a unit has earned one or more valour, it gets one valour increase for permanent.

What do you guys think ? Good or bad idea ?
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@Ang, about that castle battle. this might be a battle for your lieutenant to play. A) amatsu and i are both GMT -5, you are GMT. B) amatsu and i usually play late at night our time. and by late i mean after 11:00 PM. therefore, if you could find a lieutenant somewhere in GMT -5 to GMT -8 or so, that would make things easier.

edit:@ nigel, would this valour end up costing money (in support costs) or would this be "free" valour? also, i think it should be limited to one valour per unit, so that you couldn't have a unit jump up by two or more valour in just one battle.

This valour would still contribute to support costs.
You give out medals and promote your men, they expect higher salary (plus, I cant / dont want to keep track of two different types of valour - too complicated).

It would be "free" in the sense that you don't have to pay an initial cost for it (which is usually around 70% of the unit value).


With this increasing the support cost, of course, players will have the option to decide wether or not they want to make user of this potential benefit (as it could backfire if you are already short on cash). I think it is best if players have to claim their right to a valour increase by submitting the endscreen.jpg. You dont want it, you just dont claim it - easy.


And limiting it to one valour per unit per battle is a good idea too. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...-2thumbsup.gif

I'm for the idea of the valor being raised if it happens in a battle. It may be a little too complicated keeping track of the valor of units before and after battles. Plus the record of what upkeep is owed along with what valor all troops are to be at all times. Sooooooooooooo here goes.

We raise the valor if it happens in battle "take a shot" and raise the valor of the unit, it becomes record on unit chart and you get one full month free. Then you pay for whatever upkeep shows on your chart.

Thanks

Guy

as far as i know the log should show if a unit gained valor.

shaka

I'm lost. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/handball.gif

and still waiting for...I forgot which mercenary I was fighting. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/gc-oops.gif

Oh wait, I'm not fighting one yet. HURRY MERCENARIES. Bleh, I be sad if it turns out no one takes it and I end up in debt. :o

If we set a time of around 12:00 midnight for you guys and i'll gladly get up at about 5 ish to play you.

Xiahou Liao

I just see that you signed up for mission #9 on June 20th. That is well over 14 days ago. And still no mercenary is willing to take it on. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/ceasarno.gif

Well, I really want to get this silverware home to my castle soon and if noone wants to help me, I will do it myself. I am sure for the money I offered, I can also hire some men from the city guard.


So unless one of the mercenaries steps foreward, how about trying it this Sunday, 20:00 GMT ?

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How about it being transported to lord longshanks's castle. Since it is only 15km from your country house he is more than happy to keep your treasure safe in his underground safe whilst you find a mercenary to take your silverware the rest of the way to your castle. (This could also up the stakes of the castle battle, the extra merc could also be coming to relive the siege and take the shipment away ie the defenders try to get 2 units of peasents or whatever out of the caslte and onto the edge of the board whils the bandits attmept to capture the loot and get the castle.)

Sure Sunday 20:00 GMT..that'd be...15:00 for me...Hmm 3 O'clock sounds nice.

and Chimpyang...wouldn't that be slightly gyping me ? >>

LOL, Chimpyang, nice idea.
A lovely twist to the Longshanks story. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/cool.gif


Still, I got to get the silver to the castle in the first place (and I don't want to "gyp" Xiahou out of an opportunity to do the mission). So, yes, I will be as fast as I can, but if Xiahou should waylay me on the way there, ..... well, I hope at least something will get through.

Also, if you have already agreed on a date for the castle mission, I would go ahead and not delay it again to wait for my goods. But if you haven't, yes, there may be added value to that mission after Sunday. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif


So, Xiahou, we are on for Sunday, then. Any Merc who still turns up, I will gladly give him the mission and be happy to command the peasants for it. But if noone shows, I will see if I get some city guards as escort.

oh, and Shaka. Dou you have a logfile reader, which displayes the valour your units have gained?

The logfile itself shows the valour for each single soldier, and to work out an average valour gain for each unit is pretty tedious, even with Excel. I dont want to get into that, if I can avoid it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/flat.gif


Expanded your army, btw. It should show up shortly. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/handball.gif

ok, thx nigel http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif

i use this online logfile reader here, i hope the link works for u.

http://www.thiep.com/cgi-bin/ffmtw/logread.pl

it shows how much valor the unit gained, but the numbers are odd, most of times below 0. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../gc-dizzy2.gif
i dunno how useful it is.

shaka

Hmm man, 14 days? I've been sitting at my computer for 14 days waiting???? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...c-computer.gif

:: cheesy monster truck rally music and a cheesy deep voice. ::

Sunday Sunday Someday

The ultimate tourniment


:: Gasp???? ::

Oh no The dreadful...

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HANDBALL

Shaka, thanks, I will try it out and see if the numbers make sense with the games we have had so far.

Xiahou, you sure are looking forward to your mission. I only hope you didn't stop breathing with all the tension building up http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif. But yes, I am looking forward to Sunday, too.


And one more thing I have to do now.
Tiger VX has been in the dungeon for more than 7 days now and we have not had a word from him. So it is my sad duty to remove him from the list. Thanks for playing, Tiger. I hope you enjoyed the time, while you were here.

On the plus side: there is now a new place open for another mercenary. And anyone who is interested is wellcome to join. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/gc-clown.gif

I'm sorry I couldn't help spring Tiger from the dungeon. Because I'm only hanging on by the skin of my teeth as is, I can't really spare any funds to help. Sorry, mate http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/frown.gif

Nigel, scratch the Urban militia, and both remaining clansmen units. There's absolutely no use for 'em. Hopefully, I'll be able to afford something better next month.

Wait, can I sell my units? Cause If I can, I have UM for half the price of a new set (75fl), and 2 clansmen units for 50fl each for anyone who wants 'em.

Yes...Yes I am...'cuz...I'm bored...with nothing to do...

So I think I'll take my girlfriend out again tonight. lol.

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I have spent many hours reading most of the preceding pages in this thread, and this certainly looks like an interesting and fun concept.

So, I would like to see if I could join the merry bands of mercenaries and bandits fighting for consumer goods
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I haven't chosen a faction, nor whether or not I'll be a bandit or mercenary (though right now I'm leaning towards a mercenary).

I live on the west coast of the good ole U.S. of A, which means, I think, that I am 8 hours behind GMT. Also, due to my firewall, I cannot host. Luckily, though, I am free practically the whole day, due to school being over and whatnot.

I will await your reply with tredipation.

Crazed Rabbit

Today Today is the day that I die I mean waitNoooo I was singing a song by Dope X_o


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Axeknight, thus far I have said that you cannot sell units back to the bank. It makes sense, you have given them money for their equippment and for signing up with you, and when you fire them, you cannot expect them to pay you back.

But they are still mercnaries, not too fussed about who they eventually work for. So, yes, if someone offers you a good "transfer-sum", you can send them to fight in somebody elses army. I know this is game not supposed to be Footbball Manager http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif But I could imagine that deals like this were also made in the olden days. So if any other player offers you some money for the units you want to get rid off, that's fine by me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/gc-smile.gif .



Crazed Rabbit, wellcome to the game http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...evalcheers.gif
I am glad you like the thread and am sure you will have a lot of fun here. West coast USA (GMT-8) of course can be tough to arrange battles. But I am no friend of geographical restrictions, and if you are free during the day, it should not be a problem. Later, when school starts again, I would recommend finding a European lieutenant.

But for now, all you need to do is choose your faction and choose your side (don't worry too much over it, you can change sides later if you find you have made a mistake now). Then you can set up your army. If you give me your e-mail address, I can send you an excel spreadsheet, which will help you calculate the unit support cost you are expected to pay at the end of the month. With that, you should be ready to go.

Good Luck and Have Fun http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/bigthumb.gif

Today blood will spill :o

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LOL, Xiao, calm down.

I am beginning to worry that you will faint on the battlefield with an overdose of adrenaline. And then, what do I do ... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...gc-stunned.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif

But yea, it is time to get the swords sharpened indeed.
I have been able to get a few militia men from the town guard. Not really a match for a well equipped bandit gang. But with a bit of luck, they may just slip through...

Still, if any of the mercenaries turns up at 8:00pm GMT, I am happy to hand over the command to them.

.... just over one hour to go .... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...nquisitive.gif

Liao stares Nigel down acrossed the open field. It was quiet, and the wind blew softly. Just then...a desert tumbleweed rumbled through the green grass and confused Liao. Then he whipped out the Handball...and lost all concentration.


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Stare, stare, stare

Oh...I hope my Anti-virus is done soon... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/angry.gif

I can help you there my friend (and employer) {those two dont go togeather that well} i am willing to send my 2 units of Turcopoles to help you out.

Chimpyang sends out his two Turcopole units from Longshank's castle.
They spur their horses and hurry to Nigels help.

A bold move, for Chimpyang knows quite well {does he?} that, if the castle should be attacked soon, these riders may not return in time to help in the defence. But Chimpyang is willing to take this risk....

Thanks, Chimpyang http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/gc-smile.gif

Guillaume the Colt was having a bad week... earlier, one company of clansmen had broken camp in the night and gone out to find their own prey. It was only swift action by sending scouts out to find them and persuade them to return (through a certain amount of violence) that stopped them from deserting and becoming common-all highway robbers.

The dogs were restless - nearly a month had passed without a single shipment coming through the hills. Maybe the merchants had stopped trying to get goods through, and were instead diverting them along the coast? It was a danger, and Guillaume knew that those areas were laid claim by other 'free knights'. All he could hope for was that a shipment came through soon, otherwise he may have to take matters into his own hands....

Aye, Steeleye, it seems we are really having a shortage of Mercenaries right now. I would really get that shipment of pepper from mision #10 delivered before it turns bad. Anyone willing to do it ? I am increasing the pay to 800 Florins and doubling the bonus



Meanwhile for mission #9, Chimpyang's turcopoles have made it in time to help protect my silverware. Taking charge of the peasants as well, he manouvered them very skillfully and managed to sneak them past Liao's army without any losses. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...-2thumbsup.gif

I was much relived to see my silver safe and unscratched - for this time at least. The bandit, however, took his revenge, beat the militia guards and sent them runnig and routing. But alas, for Liao it was only fame but no Florins this time...


Now my silver is well under way to Lord Longshank's castle, guarded by Chimpyang's 2 turcopole units.

What does this mean for the castle battle?
It would be cool if we could have a scenario, where the silverware and Turcopoles arrive on the map as reinfocements and have to make a run for the safety of the castle. That would mean a 2v2 battle. Are we going to achieve that with players on both sides of the Atlantic ?

Well, we could try. If I am to command the peasants myself, it would have to be one of next week's workday evenings - say Wednesday between 8 and 11 pm GMT Alternatively, I have no objection to Liao acting as my lieutenant and commanding the peasants.

On the other hand, Octavian and Amatsu may decide that they would rather take advantage of the absence of Chimpyang's turcopoles and attack before they return. Please let us know Octavian (as you are the pricipal bandit in this mission) what you want to do.

Stupid Turcolpelelelslselslelsl thingies...


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lemme know when that mega mission gonna be :O

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Chimpyang, of course, shall also receive a reward for his help in the last mission. Not the full payment, since he only sent two units of turcopoles. But the bonus of 200 Florins, Chimpyang, it shall be yours. No one shall say I dont know what gratitude is.

And those turcopoles really made the difference in that battle http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif.

Fitzjohn rocked on the balls of his feet. His chainmail coat was starting to become uncomfortable, especially in the blistering summer heat.

But he had worn it here for intimidation purposes. He really needed money, after the last assignment. He had left the shipment, and the merchant's favourites, to rot when he heard the rumours of a count speaking English riding with the French. He had lost the shipment, and the rumours had been false. Damn it all A retainer poked his head around the door. On seeing Fitzjohn's face, his screwed up,
"Oh, it's you. The merchant will see you now, I suppose. This way, unless you have somewhere better to go." Fitzjohn didn't reply, making his hands into fists. I deserve it. At least to him.

"No. Never, ever, ever, ever will I let you take another shipment. I think you know why, Duke Fitzjohn."
"I am truly sorry for the last shipment, but..." Fitzjohn never got to finish,
"No That is final, Duke. I cannot trust you with anything" Sir Loreing slammed his fist on the table.
"But you yourself said this shipment was worthless, why does it matter to you?" Quiet reason. then violence. The merchant sighed.
"If you wish it, Duke Fitzjohn. You speak the truth; I know not what to do with this pepper." Loreing said quietly. Fitzjohn smirked,
"I do."



I'll take mission 10. Hopefully, with Steeleye in the UK, we won't have problems with timezones. I can't host, Steeleye, so either you have to host, or we get someone to take the peasants

BTW, Nigel, part 6 of Fitzjohn is up, in case you haven't read it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif
EDIT- You'll also note I 'medievalised' your name http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif

Ok, Axeknight, you got signed up to mission #10. Little do I care for this odd and exotic foodstuff, and if your Duke has to rush off to sort out his "other important business" again, I couldn't care less. But still, Good Luck with it.

The castle attack may well turn into a big thing, provided we can get 4 of us together on Thursday evening. We shall see what happens.


Meanwhile, here comes another mission.

-------------------------------------------------------------- Mission #12 --------------------------------------------------------------

I am still determined to get into the linen markets of Bulgaria. Therefor I have prepared another shipment to go to Turnovo, 200 boxes this time. Unfortunately, local linen prices have fallen to 8 Florins, but I should still make a much higher profit from each box that gets to Turnovo.

I will pay 900 Florins for a mercenary willing to take on the task and I am offering a bonus of 300 Florins upon successful completion. This bonus will double, if more than 80% of the shipment reaches the destination.

But beware, it is rumored that a gang of bandits is roaming the area and may try to intercept the transport.

Signed up as Mercenary : Xiahou Liao
Signed up as Bandit # # # : Octavian
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Map details :
1v1, bul1_practice.
Summer, Western European, 60 min, Mercenaries = attackers.

At last I have heard information that the merchant wishes to bring his shipment through within the next week.

In preparation for an engagement, I have given my company of mounted sergeants 123 florins from my chest, so improving their morale (Guillaume's bodyguards to V1).

I still appear to have Amatsu's archers hanging around - therefore i will make use of them in the coming battle - lets see how a mercenary company fights with my rebel scum

Thursday? Better be late...'cuz Thursday, July 15th, 2004, at 16:00 EST, I have an orientation to go to, to get my information about my job, my work clothes and other stuff.

XL, i dont think you are part of the thursday battle. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...icons/wink.gif

Steeleye, it seems your dogs are going to get their pray at last. Well, they got to hunt it first, though. I have heared the Duke packs an iron punch if need be https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...icons/wink.gif.

I will update your info shortly. As for Amatsu's archers, they were given to you as hostages, to be returned save and sound when Amatsu payes you back. So you had better not get them killed, or you will have some explaining to do.


As for Thursday, I still have not had word of Amatsu. Octavain, Chimpyang and Shaka (as spectator) are fine with the date and time (20:00 GMT). But Amatsu has yet to say whether he can make it or if he is ok with Shaka acting as his lieutenant.

We cannot really just do the mission without him knowing, so I am not sure if it can go ahead. Well, I am gonna be on anyway and if nothing else, we can just have a good ole game of standard MTW. Let's see.


Xiahou Liao, you may not be in this battle, but if you do turn up, you are of course wellcome to watch. And there is also mission #12 now looking for a bandit.

And misson #11 still has no mercenary. Well, matters are pressing, and I do know that the infameous Octavian is after the goods. So before I send them off without any protection, I may be willing to have them escorted by, errmmm, a fighter who is not registered with the mercenaries guild, but has no (or not a big) criminal record..... https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...gc-bandana.gif

I claim mission 12

Oh and I was thinking maybe I could've hosted tomorrow's battle you know? o.o;; That's what I meant. :p I have fast DSL...512/756
...Like hell I'm going to Fight Octavian. H E L L N O

ok, XL, you got mission #12 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/bigthumb.gif
I can understand about not fighting Octavian http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif

Meanwhile the Forum is having some problems, as you have probably noticed. Tosa and his staff are working on it. You can check the homepage of the .org for more info.

You also see that some army-pictures are not working. I hope this is only temporary and can get sorted soon. In any case I still have a backup of everyone's current army on my HD. Just drop me an e-mail if you need it.


Oh, and the castle mission did go ahead tonight. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...-2thumbsup.gif
Anyone doing a writeup ?
Stay tuned.

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Quote[/b] (Xiahou Liao @ July 15 2004,01:49)]I claim mission 12

Oh and I was thinking maybe I could've hosted tomorrow's battle you know? o.o;; That's what I meant. :p I have fast DSL...512/756
...Like hell I'm going to Fight Octavian. H E L L N O

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aww, y not?? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif

nigel, i shall try to find time to write you a little stroy about that mission of ours.

~The Fall of Lord Longshanks Castle~
As Written By Cornelieus Hood, Adjutant to Octavian the Hun.

We arrived, for the second time, at Lord Longshanks Castle. As the stone walls once again came within sight, our mens spirits rose. Perhaps they could now wipe away the stain of dishonour that had been cast upon them by their leaders cowardly retreat from the castle only days earlier.

The excitement didn't last, the men could tell something was bothering Octavian, and rumours began to circulate. Soon it became apparent what the problem was. Amatsu, the turncoat that he was, was nowhere to be found.

"He must come, he must" Octavian paced back and forth through the knee high grass, lookng not towards, but away from the castle. "His men will kill him if he doesn't fight this battle, surely he knows that." Just then far on the horizon, small puffs of dust began to appear. A murmur ran across the crowd of men. A young aide, shaded his eyes from the rising sun and looked north.

"I don't think it is Amatsu m'lord, too few, and from the wrong direction."

"Aye" Octavian, nodding sagely, "that will be Chimpyangs lieutenant, Nigel, returning with Chimpyangs cavalry, and more silver.
I had hoped to be in the castle before he arrived, but perhaps this is better"

At that very moment, shouts went up from the men, wheeling on his heel Octavian prepared to berate them into silence. Then he heard what they were cheering.

"AMATSU AMATSU" Rose the cries. Riding swiftly, Amatsu's vanguard galloped up to Octavian, halted, and then, on command, dismounted. Still mounted, the Officer in charge rode up.

"Amatsu was unable to come, he has taken ill these past few days. He has sent me in his stead however, with all of his army."

Octavian nodded, then, silently, signalled his officers to assemble the troops.

In just a few moments, the bandits were ready to march. Octavian ordered the two catapults placed on two hills on the Eastern side of the castle. Allowing him to break into both the upper and lower sections of the castle. Meanwhile, Amatsus lieutenant, Shaka prepared to give Nigel a warm reception. Placing one unit of Mounted Sergeants in the woods near the castle gate while setting the rest of his cav on our left flank, facing north.

As the first stones began to fly, he marched most of his cav towards Nigel, keeping his ambush near the gate hidden. At first, Octavian gave orders to his horse archers to support Shaka but just moments after giving the order, he recalled them. Instead, he sent one unit of mounted sergeants to the castle gate.

The ambush succeded, and not a one of the servants carrying the silver escaped. On a hill overlooking the castle, Octavian smiled, calculating the loot.

"1200 florins i reckon, 57% of which is mine." his aide de camp, startled by the sudden comment, stammered for a moment.

"Y-y-yess sir, just what i was about to say myself."

Octavian snorted, "I'm sure Gustavus, I'm sure, it seems no matter what i say, i always steal the words right from your mouth."

Gustavus, stammered again, searching for the right words, then decided to agree. "Yes sir, my thoughts exactly" then, judging from Octavians stare that he had said the wrong thing, "I-I mean, not at all sir"

Octavian spat, then strode forward to gain a better view of the soldiers riding back with the loot. "They will get shot if they aren't careful." Almost in answer to his words, a rider slumped in the saddle. "Fools"


more 2 come https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...ns/biggrin.gif

I really could have done with the help, in the end the sheer mass of FMAA got to me and I didnt have enough troops to cover everything.

Nice story, octavian. Looking forward to part two https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...s/gc-smile.gif

Well Chimpyang, they were too many in the end, indeed. Bad luck that Liao's act of revenge on the militia men of the previous mission meant that they were not available in the castle battle. The bandits sure owe him a favour now....

Still, and without wanting to pre-empt the second part of Octavian's story, Lord Longshanks was lucky to escape with his life and grudgingly payed you the promised 900 Florins. Octavian and Amatsu meanwhile divide the rich spoils of the mission 57%:43% as they had agreed beforehand.

And some of their troops have gained valour, too, which I will update later.
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I will take the valor upgrade. :) Also, don't I get my bowman back from Kyodai as the battle was won, and I can effectively pay off his loan to me? Also, I'd like to reward Shaka with 100 florins from my loot, for acting at the head of my army. It may not be much, but as I learned, 100 can go a long way. And please pay Kyodai back :) I wonder if I'll have any left after this... hehe. Regardless.. Some might wonder, what happened to Amatsu...?

Amatsu road in the front of his men, as he often does. "Advisor?" It took several minutes for the advisor to show up, making Amatsu wonder exactly where he was.

His advisor road up as fast as he could, but was quite a long ways away from Amatsu. Amatsu always had this policy of keeping his advisor far away from him, though nobody knows exactly why. "What is it mi'lord?"

"How much farther is it to this blasted castle?"

"Several days yet sir."

"I am without sleep or food since we left many nights ago. Curse that Octavian. If the money was so good, I'd never agree to help him." Amatsu lowered his head and closed his eyes. "It's one thing to destroy my reputation amongst the mercenaries... but to help a bandit? Why did I ever agree to this advisor?"

"So the men didn't declare a mutiny and kill you in the resulting panic sir."

"Yes, that's right." Amatsu continued thinking... "What if I didn't lead the troops myself?" He paused, still deep in thought, "And gave command of my troops to another Bandit for a mission? At the reward of 100 florins."

"Awfully cheap, if you ask me." Replied the advisor, almost mocking his master.

"No more than it would cost to have you executed. 100 florins can go along way, especially to one that doesn't have to lead his own army into battle. I can simply put the word out that this bandit, seeking his own glory, fought me hard until he convinced me to drink some tea. Where he promptly drugged me. He then returned to my men, used a pocket watch to hyponotize them all into thinking they were also bandits, and used them for his own evil deeds in helping his fellow bandit. My reputation is saved, booty is gained, it's a win win"

"A cunning strategem as always sir, but what bandit would answer YOUR call?"

Just as the words rolled off the advisors tongue, they came across Shaka, who agreed to lead Amatsu's men to aid Octavian, as a 100 florin award. Though, he wasn't told the story about how a rumour would be put out that he cowardly drugged Amatsu and then brainwashed his troops.

"Well then, with that taken care of... I will ride back to town, and get some sleep. I leave things in your hand Shaka." https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...evalcheers.gif

And there you have it, a logical explination for why I couldn't make the battle. lol, though in reality, I simply overslept. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...ns/gc-oops.gif

Bleh. Stupid Turcopoles.

A tired messenger arrived in the morning, with a message from Amatsu and a backpack of silver cutlery. Guillaume inspected its contents.. 'What's this?''I said 140 florins, not some snivelling silver trinkets'. The messenger looked uncomfortable 'This is what Amatsu sends, the silverware covers the loan and he asks that your hostages are allowed to return with me'.

'Bloody cheek - well, i suppose i should let them go - on reflection i don't want any poxy mercenaries running away like women when Axeknight appears with those seeds anyway - be off with you before i change my mind'.

Amatsu's archers were on the road soon after - Guillaume got the impression that they indeed were quite happy not to stick around to be forced to fight and in the process become marked men. Guillaume spat on the ground 'good riddance - Buiselm, didn't you notice a funny smell around here when those archers were around? - never mind - well, we're short of some arrows now - send word to De la Rose that i'll pay him and his men 350 florins to join our little band.'

'oh, and get this tat melted down and sold to the silver merchant in town' he, said, tossing Nigel's heirlooms to his right-hand man.


1 unit of val 0 longbowmen, please, Nigel.

hey Nigel, i just realized from the logfile that i had a *slightly* different army. instead of 3 MS V1, i had 2 MS V2. quite frankly, i dont think it gave me an advantedge (if anything it made me worse) so i dont think that its an issue.

OK, nigel, here are my upgrades:
My V0 FMAA to V1
one pav XBow
one Mounted Sergeant V1

for what should be a total cost of 844, m not sure what my new support costs will be, but im sure ill have enough.

Nigel, will there be an option of having more than 16 units, and then pick and choose what units i want to use?

also, my general would like to take command of the new unit of Mounted Sergeants. ie three non gen units at V2, gen stays at V1.

edit, miscalculated the cost.

oh, and is anybody willing to play mission 11? please?

Can I be on yourside instead, and like, we just charge the peasants? :D??????

I
AM
NOT
FIGHTING
YOUR HORSE ARCHERS
I
LEARNED
THAT
FROM THOSE
GOD DAMN TURCOPOLES
I HATE THEM
I WILL KILL THOSE UNITS CHIMPYANG WATCH ME










Anyone wanna play handball?
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...Hey can I switch allegiance to Mercenary? The bandit life isn't just working for me... :o

XL, block horse archers by foot archer fire. ;)
the horse is a bigger target and the footarchers are 60 men and not 40. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...s/handball.gif

nice stories amatsu and octavian ;)

thx for the 100 fl btw https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...evalcheers.gif

shaka

Yes, very nice stories indeed https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...icons/cool.gif
Let me pick them up...


Sir Nigel is sitting at his desk going through the paperwork.
There is a letter from the Guildmaster of the Mercenary Guild seeking his advice. A young commander is seeking admission to the guild for himself and his men. As he is suspected of not alwys having been lawful, the Guildmaster is asking for Nigel's opinion. Nigel looks over the criminal record of Xiahou Liao, a very short list indeed. A brawl with the city guard, a few threats issued in the taverns, but nothing ever actually stolen. That should be no problem. Besides, Nigel has prepared a shipment of linen to Turnovo is looking for someone to escort it. So he dips his quill into the ink and writes a letter, recommending to accept Xiahou Liao's application.

"Here", he calls to his secretary, "bing this letter over to the Mercenary Guild. I think we have someone to deliver out goods. But more importantly, have you word of out agent yet ?" Nigel had hired a spy to find out where his silverware had got to after the raid of Longshank's castle.

"Well, Sir, I have indeed. The bandit Octavian had more than half of it and your spy has been able to by them back at 12 Florins per box. The remaining silver Octavian had handed to Amatsu, and he too demanded the same price for it."

"Amatsu, now that is strong I turn blind eye at his little escapade with Longshanks, and he is selling my own silver back to me Gahh, I shall sue him for that and have him hanged or burned."

"Well, Sir, other people are trying to do that already, Sir. However it appears that Amatsu has spread a intreaguing story to explain these happenings. It involves another bandit, a cup of tea and a hypnotic pendulum and...."

"Yes, yes, I have heared that story. Who is gonna belive that anyway ?"

"Well, Sir, those who don't are talking of robbery and those who do are talking of witchcraft.
So it seems a dispute has arisen between the magistrate and the church. The matter has now been presented to the Doctores at the University to be discussed and decided."

"To be discussed at the University ?? You know what that means, don't you ? These scholars will now talk and debate for ages and no decision will ever come of it. I guess we can savely assume that we wont have any legal handle on Amatsu now for a few years to come (sigh). Well, one good thing the whole story has. Lord Longshanks now has other problems to take care of and won't bother my trading caravans with toll and taxes for quite a while. The money I am saving there may well be more than what Amatsu conned me out of. So he may be forgiven. And my set of silverware is save, too.That's good."


"Well, Sir, not exactly. It appears that Amatsu owed some money to another bandit and to pay this debt, he gave some pieces of your silver set to him."

"Another bandit ? Some pieces of my silver set ?? Which bandit ??? What pieces ????" https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...ticons/eek.gif

"Well, Sir, it is the bandit Steeleye, who is by now quite well known in England. Amatsu gave him the silver fruit dish with your family blazon engraved in it and the decanter with the cameo of your grandmother' portrait when she was a young Lady. It has to be feared that the bandit will melt them down and sell them for the value of the raw silver."

"Whaaaat That can't be, that is impossible. We have to do something. And we have to do something quick "

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It appears that the bandit Steeleye is in the posession of some silver items which belong to my heirloom and which are very dear to me. As I fear he may melt them and sell them for the value of the silver, I will pay 1500 Florins to anyone who can take them off his hands and return to me savely.

The captain of the army who signs up will recieve 50% of the sum in advance on the day he sets out to confront Steeleye, so he will have to give care, that his unit is not captured or routed during this mission.

It can be assumed that the bandit has hidden the silver somewhere and while it would be nice to see the bandit defeated, I will also be happy if only the silverware is retrieved and returned savely.

Attackers : Xiahou Liao
Defender : KyodaiSteeleye

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Map details :
1v1, flatinland01.
Summer, Western European, 60 min.

The silver is hidden in the wagon next to the old mill. The opponents deploy within the indicatd circles, about same distance from the silver. The idea is that the mercenary has to get one unit to the wagon to get the silver out. Then he can decide to fight on or withdraw. If Steeleye defeats his general unit he steals 50% of the mission reward.

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lol Nigel.

Well, whichever mercenary decides to cross my path better get a move on, or Buiselm will have visited the silversmith...

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Sign me up for #13. I must redeem my reputation with good deeds.

I will bring back the silver

HA Steeleye, with *one* of the best armies, VS XL with one of the worst (only because you haven't upgraded it yet)

oh, and Nigel, perhaps it would be helpful to indicate which players can host. maybe just putting the word HOST after their name by the army pics.

finished but not polished, which i dont think ill ever do https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...ns/biggrin.gif enjoy https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...s/bigthumb.gif

~The Fall of Lord Longshanks Castle~
As Written By Cornelieus Hood, Adjutant to Octavian the Hun.

We arrived, for the second time, at Lord Longshanks Castle. As the stone walls once again came within sight, our men’s spirits rose. Perhaps they could now wipe away the stain of dishonor that had been cast upon them by their leaders cowardly retreat from the castle only days earlier.

The excitement didn't last, the men could tell something was bothering Octavian, and rumours began to circulate. Soon it became apparent what the problem was. Amatsu, the turncoat that he was, was nowhere to be found.

"He must come, he must" Octavian paced back and forth through the knee high grass, looking not towards, but away from the castle. "His men will kill him if he doesn't fight this battle, surely he knows that." Just then far on the horizon, small puffs of dust began to appear. A murmur ran across the crowd of men. A young aide, shaded his eyes from the rising sun and looked north.

"I don't think it is Amatsu m’lord, too few, and from the wrong direction."

"Aye" Octavian, nodding sagely, "that will be Chimpyangs lieutenant, Nigel, returning with Chimpyangs cavalry, and more silver.
I had hoped to be in the castle before he arrived, but perhaps this is better"

At that very moment, shouts went up from the men, wheeling on his heel Octavian prepared to berate them into silence. Then he heard what they were cheering.

"AMATSU AMATSU" Rose the cries. Riding swiftly, Amatsu's vanguard galloped up to Octavian, halted, and then, on command, dismounted. Still mounted, the Officer in charge rode up.

"Amatsu was unable to come, he has taken ill these past few days. He has sent me in his stead however, with all of his army."

Octavian nodded, then, silently, signaled his officers to assemble the troops.

In just a few moments, the bandits were ready to march. Octavian ordered the two catapults placed on two hills on the Eastern side of the castle. Allowing him to break into both the upper and lower sections of the castle. Meanwhile, Amatsus lieutenant, Shaka prepared to give Nigel a warm reception. Placing one unit of Mounted Sergeants in the woods near the castle gate while setting the rest of his cav on our left flank, facing north.

As the first stones began to fly, he marched most of his cav towards Nigel, keeping his ambush near the gate hidden. At first, Octavian gave orders to his horse archers to support Shaka but just moments after giving the order, he recalled them. Instead, he sent one unit of mounted sergeants to the castle gate.

The ambush succeeded, and not a one of the servants carrying the silver escaped. On a hill overlooking the castle, Octavian smiled, calculating the loot.

"1200 florins I reckon, 57% of which is mine." his aide de camp, startled by the sudden comment, stammered for a moment.

"Y-y-yes sir, just what I was about to say myself."

Octavian snorted, "I'm sure Gustavus, I'm sure, it seems no matter what I say, I always steal the words right from your mouth."

Gustavus, stammered again, searching for the right words, then decided to agree. "Yes sir, my thoughts exactly" then, judging from Octavians stare that he had said the wrong thing, "I-I mean, not at all sir"

Octavian spat, then strode forward to gain a better view of the soldiers riding back with the loot. "They will get shot if they aren't careful." Almost in answer to his words, a rider slumped in the saddle. "Fools."

The majority of the riders made it safely back to the army. Unloading their loot well behind the lines they then rode up the hills to report to Octavian.

“684 florins worth I reckon sir” said the commander excitedly as he rode up. “684,” he let out a long slow whistle, then saluted, and rode off to join the rest of his cavalry wing.

Octavian, having paid little attention to the officer, went back to surveying the damage done to the walls, which was now quite significant. As another chunk of stone went flying, the crew manning one of the catapults began to take fire from the castle walls. A few of them dropped to the ground, writhing in agony, until some comrades came forward to take the few who were still alive back behind the lines.

Finally the walls began to show the first signs of collapse, and then an entire section fell to the ground, opening the lower ring of fortifications to assault. Some officers, eager for glory, ordered their troops forward, rushing towards the gap in the stone. Octavian and Shaka ordered them back hurriedly, cursing and shoving the men back to their positions.

“Not until both rings of the castle have been opened dare we attack, with just one, we are to easily cut down” Octavian shouted. “Now, back to the lines Form up”

Just moments later however, the second ring was exposed, and the infantry began moving, keeping in formation.

The infantry halted just out of bowshot, awaiting further orders. Meanwhile, up on the hill, Shaka and Octavian held a hurried conference.

“I think it would be best to send the spearmen in first, to wear the enemy out, then put the Men At Arms into the melee, and then make a final push with everything we have left.” Said Shaka slowly, weighing every word, thinking through every possibility.

Octavian thought for a moment, “Yes, I think that would be good, I will hold my cavalry in reserve near the lower ring, along with my militia. Hopefully I will be able to tie down part of their army, without having to fight, then, with the upper ring secured, we can push down into the lower level. Or, if Chimpyang decides to abandon the lower level, I can march in, break the gate, and hit his rear.”

“Right then, lets do it.” And with that, Shaka rode off to convey the orders to his troops.

The first unit of Italian light infantry began to march forward, slowly yet confidently, about 60 yards from the castle, the first arrows started to fall among them. The infantry sped up to the double time, then crashed into the line of Feudal Men at Arms who were waiting near the gap in the wall. The Light Infantry did well at first, the sheer shock power of their charge throwing the Men at Arms into slight disarray. Then the staying power of the FMAA began to show, and one after another, more and more Light Infantry began to drop, dead or severely wounded. More units were committed to the fight by both sides, but despite the most valiant efforts of the Italian spearmen, their losses were significant. Soon after the third unit of Light Infantry had entered the fray, the entire Italian line began to crack. However, just as the first waves of routers began to leave the melee, the Italian FMAA charged in. Fresh and eager to fight, they pushed deep into the French lines, forcing Chimpyang to commit his remaining cavalry. In addition to sending his cavalry into the fight, Chimpyang also pulled back the few troops that he had in the lower level.

Immediately Octavian sent his militia sergeants in, they swiftly pushed the cavalry that Chimpyang had left behind out, and began to batter the inner gate. Despite the boiling oil sent down upon their heads, they made fairly good progress.

Meanwhile, in the upper ring of fortifications, things had taken a turn for the worse, Chimpyang had committed his elite infantry, Swiss Pikemen. And despite the valiant attempts of Octavians Hungarian FMAA, the pikemen were slowly pushing them back. Octavian threw his last reserves, the cavalry, with the hopes that he would be able to buy time for his militia sergeants to force an entrance. Then Shaka ordered his now reformed Light Infantry back into the fray.

At that very moment, when it seemed that the day might be lost, that the Militia Sergeants broke through the gate. Octavian, realizing that his soldiers, with proper support, might be able to win the day, ordered his unit of bodyguards to form up, and personally led them down, through the lower court, and up towards the inner gate. It was there that a messenger from Shaka caught up with him.

“M’lord, General Shaka sends his regards, and his compliments on a well fought battle, but wishes to inform you that his line is about to break. And that believes it necessary to withdraw his troops from the battle, if they ever wish to fight again.”

Octavian wheeled his horse violently, “Tell him to form his men up for a final push, the enemy is about to break, I can feel it, now quick Tell him Before it is too late” with that he wheeled back to face the gate, and galloped through, followed by his entourage. As he rode through the gate, he found his militia sergeants fighting hard against a unit of French FMAA, without hesitation he charged into the conflict. Within minutes the entire unit of FMAA lay slain on the field. Not pausing for even a heartbeat, Octavian ordered the militia sergeants into the enemy’s rear. Soon after, the entire contingent of French soldiers lay dead or huddled in small groups, guarded by Hungarian and Italian soldiers.

Mission 10 is set for tonight https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...s/bigthumb.gif I'll do a write up tomorrow (hopefully)

oh Nigel, since no one wants to fight me in Mission 11, i guess ill take mission 12 as well. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...s/bigthumb.gif

I offer to help Xiao Hou in his battle, I'll send my entire cavalry corps, 2 units of Hobilars and 2 unit's of Turcopoles to the battle for 200fl when sucessful, 20fl if not. I'll do anything to redeem myself after my loss of hounour at Longshank's castle.


I would also like to upgrade 3 of my FMAA to v1....i'm not sure of how the costs are spread but i think i'll make it thorugh this month safely.

It's uhm, not always about the best army that wins

Battle of Cannae anyone?

>>;

Good, i'm taking it you don't want Chimyang's cavalry then

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Well, Steeleye and I just fought mission 10. He beat me https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...cons/frown.gif

"Damn it all God damn it all" Duke Fitzjohn shouted. It had been going so well. He had ordered the servants carrying the shipment to move erratically, in the hope of confusing the bandit. He personally lead a cavalry charge to distract them, but the bandit's horsemen had cut his poorly armoured men to pieces, and a group of bandit horsemen he had missed set upon the shipment. Seeing the shipment lost, he ordered the rout.
"Sir?" the spearman asked hesitantly,
"What is it?" Fitzjohn snapped back.
"The count, sir. Of dead and wounded, sir."
"Leave it with me." Ross gave him the paper quickly, as though he wanted to be rid of it. Fitzjohn soon saw why.
"Six hundred and sixty seven dead or wounded? My God..."

Battle replay will be up soon, if anyone wants to see my magic 'which corner are the peasants in?' trick https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...ns/biggrin.gif . I'll send Nigel the logfile now.

Think about it........all those turcopoles and hobilars.....

You know i could make a living out of hiring my units to the bandits and mercs.

lol, ang, quite a lucrative career.


and Nigel, i check the previous page for my army upgrades. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...s/bigthumb.gif

yup, Octavian, I'm on it. Just soo much catching up to do with you guys. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...ns/biggrin.gif

Signing up for mission #12 as well, right. You sure are determined to become the most infameous bandit of the land, Octavian. Just one day the other bandits might decide to gang up on you. "Oi, what your men doin' here. This is our dark forest. Git yer hands off our merchants, or we'll teach yer right."

Xiahou Liao, it looks like you will have to go up agains Octavian after all. Can't hide, but perhaps can run. I do recommend Shaka's advice on dealing with horse arcers. Shoot them out of the saddle, just don't attempt to chase after them. And for that one you may want to think about Chimpyang's "swords for hire" https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...s/gc-smile.gif

Mission 10 Battle Report (a bit convoluted ;))

Guillaume's band had been formed up for two hours on a chilly morning on the edge of the hills. Tension hung over the rebels like a dark cloud. Slowly, slight movements in the distance heralded the approach of the guildsmen with the merchant's cargo. Guillaume had formed up his clansmen and cavalry into a seperate battle on the right, in case the guildsmen had tried to bypass their position. He strained to try and see if he could spot the merchant's men. They didn't appear to be with the main company. Apprehension rose in the bandit-leader's stomach - where was the shipment? Was this just a clever decoy?

No - there, he spotted the merchant's men using the cover of a wood with some clansmen escorts. 'tell Buiselm and the cavalry to get over to that hill on the left quickly', he ordered his command-rider. The man spurred his horse toward the second battle, and soon the bandit horsemen were galloping over the valley and up the far slope to cut off any possibility of the merchantmen making a run for home. The bandit clansmen formed up behind the archers in the main body of infantry.

The guildsmen companies marched toward them, but the merchant's men kept coming and going out of view, and companies of mercenaries kept darting left and right. Guillaume licked his lips with anxiety. 'Rider - keep track of those merchantmen - tell me if you see them running for the woods or i'll have your eyes - that mercenary captain B*st*rd is confusing the hell out of me'. His chosen lookout dutifully stood up in his saddle, trying to keep his eyes trained on the interweaving companies of mercenarymen ahead.

The mercenary companies' weaving was leading to confusion amongst the bandit company leaders - Buiselm rode his troops across the valley again, unsure where the guildsmen would strike. 'Captain, look', Guillaume's command rider pointed - the mercenary captain and all of his horsemen were streaming left up the far slope of the valley, the merchantmen just behind. 'Quickly - tell Buiselm to get up the hill and stop the merchant's men breaking through - at all costs'

Buiselm and his cavalry raced across the valley to cut the mercenary captain off, but before they could reach the top of the opposite slope, the mercenary cavalry charged and it was all they could do to wheel in time to meet them face on. Meanwhile the guildsmen archers were now in range and were exchanging arrows with the bandit companies. Axeknight's foot companies charged down the slope - the bandit clansmen quickly formed into their favoured wedges and countered, throwing themselves onto the guildsmen's spears. The initial impact was dreadful - whole ranks of men on both sides were hacked down, but the mercenary line held and axeknight quickly flanked the clansmen, felling them quickly, as in their tight formations the scots could not parry the incoming blows. Too slowly, the bandit men-at-arms charged forward, only to see the clansmen shock troops fleeing toward them, mercenaries in tow. Guillaume's well armoured foot troops stopped the pursuit, however. Meanwhile, Guillaume charged his personal retinue and the remaining cavalry over the valley to support Buiselm, who was now in a desperate melee with the guildsmen hobilars. Gaining the top of the opposite slope, his remaining cavalry charged down at the exposed hobilar flank, turning the tide of the fight. Just as he was about to do the same, a glint of metal in the neighbouring wood drew his attention to the merchant's men, nearly invisible, and crouching in the undergrowth, waiting for an opportunity to slip past unawares. 'the bones of saint ignatious - an extra florin for every man that captures a sack of those seeds', cried Guillaume as he spurred his horse into a charge against the peasants.

The merchant's men didn't fight for long and ran in panic soon after. Meanwhile, Buiselm's cavalry finally got the better of the mercenary captain, who turned tail and fled - causing his infantry to do the same. Even the rebel clansmen rallied and turned on their pursuers, who were so surprised that they too fled the field.

Later that night, after some experimentation on some unfortunate archers to find the magic of his newly acquired black seeds, (who still scowled and complained that their guts were burning away), Guillaume declared he had found the answer 'that's it - these are the seeds of plants taken from the land of dragons - two of these will give a man the strength and courage of five Buiselm - sell these on to those superstitious fools in the town, next market day, we'll make a killing a second time Oh - and while you're at it send a message to that mercenary Axeknight that he seems to have carelessly left two of his companies behind', motioning to the small groups of huddled figures tied to trees around the camp.

'oh, and Buiselm, don't take that silver stuff quite yet, there's a rather fine engraving of a young lady that i like to study at night...'

Buiselm was relived at this remark of his leader as this would save him the long way to town (he was also sightly worried about him for different reasons). He had already been a part of the way, when the notice had come that Axeknight and the shipment of teh devils seeds were approaching. Quickly he had hidden the silver among a few sacks of flour by the old mill and joined his master to fight the battle.

And a good battle is was, too. Both his master's as well as his own unit had distinguished themselves with valour. So had two other units of the band. The men were now highly motivated and keen for another battle.

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Quote[/b] (KyodaiSteeleye @ July 19 2004,22:26)]'oh, and Buiselm, don't take that silver stuff quite yet, there's a rather fine engraving of a young lady that i like to study at night...'

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Someone get that silver off him now https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...ns/biggrin.gif

Good write up, Steeleye. Great battle as well, I really enjoyed it. I shall dig up the replay now, watch the peasants, I moved them all over the place to try and get the drop on him, but with no luck https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...s/rolleyes.gif .

Aw damn, WinZip won't zip my replay. Could you upload yours, Steeleye?

There have been various comments saying that it would be a good idea if your men could gain valor from battles. And several ways of doing it have also been discussed. Considering the things suggested (and failing to get the log-file reader to give useful figures for valor-gain) I will now use the following system :


Gaining valor from battles

1) The End-Screen will show you if any unit gained valor.

2) Take a screenshot.
Best way to do this is by using the Print Screen button.
Then open Paint (or any other graphics program) and insert.

3) Save it as JPG (please) and email to Gamemaster.

4) Since valor involves an increase in Support cost, you dont have to give it to all units who would qualify for it.

5) There is a max. valor gain of 1 for each unit per battle.
I.e. if a unit gained 2 valor, it will still only be given 1 additional permanent valor point.


Hope that should work.
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P.S.
Lets see how it does work. If we find we are getting valor inflation, we may have to go for a max 1 valor per battle in total (i.e. players have to decide which one of the qualifying units gets the valor increase).

Finally Octavian's "recruiting officer" returns from his mission through the taverns. He brings back two new units and also splashes out some cash to the FMAA, who in turn promised to fight harder than ever before. In total he spent 796 Florins from Octavian's budget, leaving 749 in his chest. The payroll has gone up to 802 Florins....


And Chimpyang, too, hands out some money to increase the dedication of some of his FMAA: 366 Florins. Enough left to let pay-day approach with peace of mind.

Actually, I would like to make ALL my unit's available for hire, prices will be listed later (can i do this?). Losses of these unit's will be replaced by me. Note there is a "calling out" fee (usually around 20-50fl) and a mission completion fee (if mission is won). I will decide if i can spare the unit(s) to hire out and will also command these units in battle.



Note : My men will not fight each other, so if one side has hired some of my men, the other side cannot. Also in extreme conditions I may lend my unit's to someone else and give them full command for a battle. This will inccur a high callout fee but the cost of replacing the unit (if lost) will be shared 75%:25% with me taking 75%.