Have i to quote Sir Moiody?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
the dead can vote, Flavius
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Have i to quote Sir Moiody?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
the dead can vote, Flavius
Vote: Don Corleone
Ack ! Now that's new, completely passed me by.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caius Flaminius
Thanks for mentioning though Caius, now on to voting !
PS: Moody, when does the voting period end, I really need to re-read this thread.
:balloon2:
He's had one day, and he investigated you and found you guilty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
If you believe doc then why vote me :dizzy2:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Don
EDIT: forgot to add vote:DonQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir Moody
Keeping it tied.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
A strategy you've done far too many times to seem jittery, but doc's evidence satisfies me.
Unvote: Sasaki
Vote: Don Corleone
Unvote, Sasaki
Vote DonC
Vote: DonC
He played it pretty well- acting very closely in behavior to how he plays when innocent.
Voting Closed Stand by for execution
Csar looked around the senate chamber. The few remaining Senators had been reinforced by the families of dead Senators and the vote was in. "Senators and esteemed Family members you have chosen Senator Caput capitis Insurgo, known as Don Corleone, to be executed. I hope you are right friends as any mistakes will cost us the Republic! Guards take him!"
As the Guards moved on Insurgo he became quite distressed. He began muttering and shaking his head. Worried about what he may do the guards encircled him and stayed back. Suddenly without warning Insurgo Drew a long needle and lunged at the closest guard skewering him with the needle. As the guard fell, already foaming at the moath as the poison took hold; Insurgo grabbed the fallen galdius and charged at Csar! The unarmed Consul would have surely died except that Senator Medicus, known as Doc_Bean and the current Praetor, reacted with lightning speed diving into Insurgo and wrestling him to the ground.
Even Medicus didn’t notice when Insurgo, now resigned to the failure of himself and his Partner Morsus Anas (AggonyDuck), stabbed himself with a tiny needle. He was dead instantly as the needle was coated with a much more powerful and painless toxin.
"Friends" proclaimed Csar "We have saved the republic from these traitors’ plans, if ever it was needed this proves the value of our system and that democracy works! We must now begin the process of rebuilding the senate and electing a new Consul but for today, at least, go rest and be merry - we have won!!"
In the following years the senate would be rebuilt and the perilous rebellion to be would be forgotten. Consul Csar would remain in office for 3 years and then would retire. His body was found not long afterwards in a alley with the words " nos ero tergum" written in blood on the walls. He was remembered as one of the greatest consuls of the age. While the rebellion failed the lessons it taught were not forgotten and many years later another rebel would use these lessons to successfully overthrow the senate and seize power proclaiming himself Emperor and changing Rome forever...
Senate Victory
Alive
Sasaki Kojiro
Csar
doc_bean
Reenk Roink
Xiahou
Dead
Crazed Rabbit
Masy
Kagemusha
Dutch_guy
Peasant Phill
GeneralHankerchief
JimBob
Craterus
Executed
Ituralde
Caius Flaminius
Kommodus
AggonyDuck (Rebel)
Don Corleone (Rebel)
Suicide
Proletariat
Wrath of God
Destroyer of Hope
A write up of my thoughts on this game will be posted later - I’m at work now and cant spare the time for anymore than this. Though i will say I think Sasaki was right at the beginning - the detective is too powerful if I host another game I will probably not have a detective.
Nice game this!
Waiting for Interficio Quod Scrupulosa II!
Good job, well played.
Nice job, guys! :2thumbsup:
Kudos are in order for:
1. Sir Moody for a game well-hosted. The theme was solid and well-narrated.
2. The successful senators and their Praetor, doc_bean. Your detective work was invaluable to the success of the good guys this time. You picked a good time to reveal and did it in a convincing fashion.
3. The rebels, Doc Corleone and AggonyDuck. You played a good game, and I'm convinced you would've won if it hadn't been for the detective. I had AggonyDuck figured out after round 3, but I gotta admit, Don Corleone had me fooled! :embarassed: (I actually suspected Xiahou after the third round.)
I apologize for my wierd stunt at the beginning. Like I said, I just wanted to try something different. No hard feelings, eh?
Looking forward to the next game...
I don't really have much to comment on. Most of the thinking and killing was handled by Don and he did an excellent job at it. For me the problem was the darn voting. Couldn't convince myself of anyone being guilty when I knew I was guilty and it did show in my votes. I must say I prefer the role of villager over mafioso, simple because you don't have to live with the constant fear of doing something wrong and being discovered. Not a pleasant experience at all, but hey atleast I didn't have to lie once about my innocence. :2thumbsup:
Woo, I survived again.
Really well played Don. You matched your previous play perfectly.
And doc_bean, you saved the day with your detective work. I thought I was going to be lynched that round and had planned on claiming detective and accusing AD which would have been pretty messy.
I'm just glad we won without you and that you didn't see through Don either :sweatdrop:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kommodus
Btw Don and AD, what was your guys strategy behind not killing anyone last round?
I do think this game shows that the detective is too powerful in these games. Either that or we need more mafia.
A quiestion of a newbie:
What happened if the detective were killed for the mafia?He (or She) cant reveal the investigation?
We only barely made it, it was pure luck I didn't get killed earlier and that Sasaki and Reenk were still alive AND that they hadn't sent in their kills in time last round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Moody
I feel this game was pretty balanced.
Good game all, sorry for giving you such a hard time Kommodus !
Ack Don, why kill me so irritatingly early on in the game - I actually liked surviving in those other mafia games, you know ~;)
By the way, why the needle ?
:balloon2:
No prob, bro. I actually only acted like I really didn't want to be lynched. All part of the (ill-conceived) plan, ya know. :dizzy2:Quote:
Originally Posted by doc_bean
Once the detective is dead, they can't reveal their role or the results of their investigations. All the information they gathered dies with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caius Flaminius
What if Doc had been a rebel? Am I alone in thinking that it would've been a stroke of brilliance for an impostor to cement his credibility by declaring two actual innocents innocent?
I agree. I think a convincing counter-claim would've probably gotten you (and the impostor) lynched and tainted the results of any of your investigations. As close as the game was, I think the senate would've easily lost in that case. That's not to criticize the rebels (well played guys), as they were clearly working their own angle- one that nearly worked too. If they would've had just a bit of luck and killed you early on, they would've walked away with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by doc_bean
I think it would have been too risky. Usually the mafia can be counted on to take a less risky strategy. I thought Kommodus was bold enough to try something daring, but I was wrong (I really should have seen through that after being convinced Sigurd was mafia for most of TGF2 when he tried something similar). The mafia could probably have counted on winning by lynching me that round so doc_bean claiming as a rebel would be an unnecessary risk. AggonyDuck should have counterclaimed though, but then he doesn't like lying so there you have it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
Heck, if they had just killed doc_bean last night they would have walked away with it. You were going to be lynched and not don. Sorry about that btw, he seemed perfectly innocent.Quote:
I agree. I think a convincing counter-claim would've probably gotten you (and the impostor) lynched and tainted the results of any of your investigations. As close as the game was, I think the senate would've easily lost in that case. That's not to criticize the rebels (well played guys), as they were clearly working their own angle- one that nearly worked too. If they would've had just a bit of luck and killed you early on, they would've walked away with this.
First of all, much thanks to Sir Moody for this great game. It was under promoted and coincided with Christmas time, so it didn't get the exposure or posts, but I can't think of a better themed game. :balloon2:
Well done to our rebels too, Don and Ducky. You played it real cool till the end. :2thumbsup:
Sorry to Kommodus and doc_bean the most. I suspected you both the most. Kommodus because of his ultimatum and doc cause I'm paranoid. In the end I only put suspicion on you to get info from Don though, so it worked out.
I'll write more later when I read some writeups, but thanks to all for a great game... :bow:
My role was boring.
would have been less boring if youd maybe sent me PM's with the execution methods rather than leaving it all to me and sitting their like a lemon :evilgrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
I believe Don missing the kills was unintentional. The last I heard of him he was planning to kill doc_bean, but it seems as if New Year kinda ruined it for him.
Well damn. I forgot I was supposed to PM you. Would have been way more fun for me to do that then sit around like a lump.:sweatdrop:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Moody
That's a shame, he deserved a win.Quote:
Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
Pre-Start
Using the D&D virtual dice (check the wizards website) Don Corleone and AggonyDuck were selected as Rebels. These weren't bad choices, Don has never been mafia and tends to run a fine line with suspicion which if he can maintain the posting style he should slip by under the radar, Aggony is a generally consistent player so should do well.
Next Csar was chosen as Consul - this should be fun Csars crazy posting style should make for some good executions, plus he cant try to bandwagon sasaki too.
Last Doc_bean was chosen as Praetor - I think this will be a chancy role for him to pull off, he tends to hide in the background most games and so avoids some attention but eventually he may end up being target for a lynching and with no Legatas a reveal will be his end.
night phase 1
Don Contacts me via a PM and asks me to give him my email - which i promptly do. He choses both targets tonight as AggonyDuck is busy.
well not bad kill methods gives me plenty to work with.Quote:
-I would like to kill Crazed Rabbit as follows: Romans used to go to the baths every day. I'd like Crazed Rabbit to stay back, enjoying the steam room by himself. When he does, I will slink into the room in the shadows. I'll come up behind him with a very thin but strong leather cord and garrote him.
-I would like to kill Masy as follows: At the opening of the senate, Masy will be walking in in a large crowd. Many of his fellow senators will pass him by, too many faces to count. In the midst of the crowd, I'll keep out of view but poke him in the back of the neck, with a poison laced needle by patting him on the back, so that as he takes his seat, he'll notice a welt raising in the back of his neck. Then, he'll begin to shake uncontrollably, will froth, have a seizure and die, on the senate floor.
First Crazed Rabbit... well i cant call him that directly ill need a name. After using my Latin Dictionary i go with "Fatum Rodent" or "Doomed Rodent"... well actually its "Fate Rabbit" but its close enough and looks ok. Next i add a distraction to explain how he doesnt see the killer - perfect.
Next Comes Masy - well Masy isnt too bad a name but lets add something to it - "Venenum Masy" or "Poision Masy" - otherwise ill pretty much leave the kill as is.
Doc_Bean investigates Dutch_guy
Kommodus is cooking up a storm with his proclemation - i doubt he wil llast long after that...
Day 1
Oh hell, my spelling is awful and trust sasaki to bring it up...
Well somehow Kommodus has escaped the noose this time and Reenk and Ituralde are tied - its certain Reenk will survive he is a veteran while Ituralde is new..
Tie 1
Wow a flurry of postings and initailly it looks like Reenk is done for but it slowly turns around and moves towards a draw. with so few players and with the holdiays aproaching i cant let this draw out so if they draw ill have to kill them both - not a good start...
General Hankerchief tries to start a no-lynch party - again i cant let this draw out so ill let everyone know that no-lynch isnt an option and a draw will end up in both being executed - that should force people to pick one but you never know...
Ituralde did a good thing - very selfless - since Csar hasnt sent me anything ill let him off easy with a Noble Suicide - the Romans would have approved.
Night Phase 2
AggonyDuck sends in the first kill
well i cant call him Kagemusha so out comes the dictionary again - "Compleo Vir" or "to fill up Man" - not very good Latin but ironic as he will die relieving himself. I dont like this note idea either - paper was quite rare and its too subtle - Blood on the walls is much better.Quote:
I'd like to kill Kagemusha in a public urinal by slitting his throat and then dropping a note on parchment beside him with "Vir prudens non contra ventum mingit" written on it. I'll leave it for the senators to figure out what it means.
While im waiting for Don Proletariat asks to be suicided - well ive written a kill for Aggony duck ill have to work it into Dons kill.
Don Sends me a warning that csar is attmepting to break the rules by asking the detective to contact him - I make a quick reply...
After the warning he sends the kill;
Well working Proletariat into the kill wont be too hard her name is very latin like so no need to modify - Dutch_guy on the other hand... im stumped here, he has a name in Latin above his portrait so ill use that.Quote:
I'd like to kill Dutch_Guy as follows: He'll be entering the Hippodrome, to watch the chariot races. When he enters, he'll be in a throng of people, all pushing to get in. I'll sneak up, unseen, and another poison needle, this time poked into his shoulder, while I'm reaching through the crowd, so he can't see me.
Doc_Bean investigates Reenk Roink - a good choice he has been acting odd
Day 2
sasaki is striahgt off the bat and onto Komm - wow he is lightning quick on those bandwagons :laugh4:
GeneralHankerChief and his guts nail AggonyDuck - wow im not going to argue with his gut in the future he hits the nail dead on... Aggony is able to sweet talk his way out tho.
Sasaki is like a dog with a bone - he just wont let go he and Kommodus need a bucket of cold water thrown over each other wow are they vicious
and now Sasaki for no aparant reason is throwing his vote to generalH ... odd even for Sas
Ciaus has made a really silly mistake - hes new so i can understand it but this line will get him in trouble later on if not now
yup i was right General jumps on him almost imediatly he can probably get more people to follow alongQuote:
I am still surprised why i am not dead.
there sasaki goes with the spelling again... ill have to write a nasty kill just for him - revenge will be sweet oh yes...
well that was fun - within a few hours Ciaus has been bandwagoned, he even voted for himself, both Rebels avoided the Bandwagon...
Csar still hasnt sent a execution method in so its up to me again - since he voted for himself ill make it pretty nasty with a touch of roman mercy as hes plainly off his rocker...
Night phase 3
Don gets back really quickly
Well Peasant Phill will need renaming - Paganus (Peasant in Latin) - other wise only need a few tweaks here and there.Quote:
We want to catch Peasant Phil in a whorehouse. We'll sneak into his room, strangle him with a cord, and on the wall, leave the grafiti "No inquiro de iste necio". (In English, don't ask about that which you do not know).
We want to use the poison needle trick on General Hankerchief. When he sits on his chair at the forum, he will sit on a needle. He'll shout, point to it, then froth, convulse and collapse.
Again General hankerchief needs renaming - wish i hadnt started this now - ok Imperator Tela or "General Cloth" should do
AggonyDuck contacts me to correct Dons Latin phrase
Doc_bean investigates Sasaki - again a good choiceQuote:
"No inquira de iste neci".
Ill post these early as its the office party and i dont want to have to play with them later on
Day 3
The party went well and i didnt drink too much, didnt miss much either the kommodus wagon finally left the station - i was begining to think he would survive despite his early statements...
Aggony Votes for Sas and Don Absteins - they are doing a good job of hiding under the radar so far.
once again csar doesnt send me anything so i write the entire thing - kommodus will be Indubitanter Peto which is "Confident without Doubts" sums him up perfectly i think... - i wrath Destroyer as he has only made one post since the start...
Since the holidays are starting ill make this an extra long Night Phase as poeple wont be paying attention over the holidays
Night 4
oh wow Sas - the main proponent in the Kommodus bandwagon actually asks him if he found anything... yeah right like he will actually anwser that...
Don sends me the targets
both good kills - i change Jimbobs name to be "Novus Caro" or "Fresh Meat" since hes releivly new.Quote:
We'd like to kill Craterus and JimBob this time. JimBob will be reading in a library and strangled. The blood-written grafiti will read : Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc. (It means we gladly feast on those that would subjugate us, it's actually the motto of the Addams family. ;-) ). We'd like to poison needle Craterus. I think in this case, we will put the needle in the cushion of his litter. When he's on his way to a party, he climbs into his litter and sits on it, his mistress left to panic while he convules and dies in her arms. Hope you both had a Merry Christmas and I wish you a Happy New Year.
Doc_Bean investigates Craterus - oh well strange choice and fruitless in this case - and asks if he can reveal during the night phase - i reply he can but he never does
Unfortunatly just as im posting the kills im hit with a Powercut for 6 hours... joy ill protpone this till tommorow
Day 4
Doc starts his reveal this will probably spell the end for the rebles as only 3 un-investigated possibles will remain - theres still hope and they had a good run if they can both survive this round they have won
Damn... Sasaki nails Aggony in a way no-one can argue with hes a goner but he tries to defend Don by proclaiming his guilt pretty much - it will be a 50/50 toss in the final round
sigh and now Reenk is brining up my spelling - yes it sucks i know and spell checkers are made in the US they mainly dont use british spelling...
Ill call Aggony "Morsus Anas" which means "painful Duck (anas is the Scientific name for a duck)"
night 5
Doc_bean gos straight for Don this time - it wont matter as Don should kill him
its time to post and don hasnt contacted me... i feel bad doing this but ill have to post no kills and open for voting
Day 5
damn within an hour Don sends me his kills
good kills shame it wont happen that way...Quote:
Doc_Bean: Please have him strangled when he is trying to book passage on a ship to flee the city. The quote should be:A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi
Sasaki: Please have him be the recipient of the poison needle. Perhaps we could put in in his pillow at night.
Doc hasnt posted yet and its looking good Don may just clinch it - Sasaki keeps claiming if there were two mafia the game would be over... says who? id play it this far even if aggony was still alive to see if they could pull a total victory off... i guess i just like playing with you all...
damn doc posted at the last second its a draw - don is doomed its over.
Well ill call Don "Caput capitis Insurgo" or "Head Rebel" and Doc_bean will be "Medicus" or "Doctor". Since csar never sent me anything ill get him killed too along with the words "we will be back" in latin - that will teach him
Final thoughts
Well it was a good game while it lasted - would have been better if not over the holiday period and with more people but not much i could have done there...
one thing ive learned is to fear Sasaki - hes a one man whirlwind of accusations and crazy posts - its a real headache to try and follow his posts when you already know who is guilty - he really throws himself full on into an attack with little or no evidence, and once hes started he wont let go...
Don managed to beat Kommodus too which shows his method isnt fool proof - thats good it was beginning to look bad with komm able to pick out the mafia with seemingly nothing to go on i think dons game was damn near perfect - had the detective not cleared reenk and sasaki he would have survived as they dueled it out
well ive had my fun - now whos hosting the next game :evilgrin:
ah, so he was only one hour late.
Sorry about the spelling thing Sir moody. Got me all confused there round 2. Nice write up.
And we would have gotten away with it to, if it wasn't for you meddling kids....
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First and foremost, a great game by everyone. Kudos to Sir Moody for a great theme and a well-run game. Also to my great partner, AggonyDuck, who helped save me from one or two rather large blunders. And most of all, a big thank-you and apology to Reenk Roink. Reenk, I was terrified when I got picked as mafia. I usually play very edgy, acting affronted over everything, to see who miffs up. Pretty hard to do when you're trying to wear a poker face at the same time. I knew you were playing in role, and I actually got a hoot out of it. But I couldn't act like that. You gave me the chance of a lifetime... a chance to act like my usual cantankerous self and remove myself from the suspects list, because I started a crusade against you. I hope there's no hard feelings.
Now, I apologize to everyone for my poor end of game play. I thought we had you. I thought me being the 2nd to go for AggonyDuck would make me look free and clear. I had to travel to North Carolina to visit my wife's family for the New Year. I figured no problem, I'll have my trusty laptop. Then, one disaster after another. First my flight got delayed 8 hours. Then my laptop enacted a security protocol that wouldn't let me use any network other than my work one. :oops: :oops: :oops: Talk about chomping at the bit. Anyway, I just got home to New Hampshire. Thank you everyone for a great game.
Oh, P.S. Xiahou... thank you for the Latin quote. I loved it. Peasant Phil being the first to point it out was like winning the lottery. No hard feelings, old friend? :shakehands:
And Sasaki... talk about making somebody paranoid. You never mentioned me as a suspect once, which had me convinced I was top of your list in private.
And Kommodus... thanks for the early Christmas present. You gave me 2 rounds of posts, essentially about nothing, to build my credibility.
I hope I had you all guessing and I played the mafia role well. Without the technical glitches... well, who knows. :devil:
MY NAME IS CAIUS, NOT CIAUS!
Vote:Sir Moody
:laugh4:
Nope. I figured Kommodus for mafia first round. Reenk was roleplaying and you were being classically paranoid. I figured you both for innocent. Round two I got confused about who was writing the kills and how and briefly thought it was caius. Round three I went for Kommodus figuring AD or doc_bean was the 2nd. When the game wasn't over after AD's lynch I thought it was Xiahou. You weren't on my radar in the slightest :embarassed:Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Well played :yes:
Sir Moody sorry about never PMing you I completely forgot I was supposed too.
Nice write-up, Sir Moody! :2thumbsup:
No problem, Don! *salutes* Ya know, towards the end I was kinda hoping the mafia would win. Keep in mind, though, I'm gonna remember this; that is to say:Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Someday, and that day may never come, I will ask a favor of you... (j/k)
You really did play a very good game. :yes: I ran one numerical analysis during the course of the game - right after round 3 ended. Ya looked clean up to that point. I never bothered to re-check. :embarassed:
I decided to use that quote as my own meager attempt to add some flavor to the game. I was inspired by Reenk's speech, but lacked the time or patience to devote to something that well written. I realized that it might garner me some suspicion, but I decided I would stick with it regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
What made me suspicious, was it just the quote? I have little doubt that I would've been lynched had Doc not chimed in- the votes were clearly lining up against me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
No, I didn't find you very suspicious at all. But Don was clearly innocent :sweatdrop:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
I did think you would be clever enough to try some gambit like not killing anyone to make doc_bean look guilty. And there was that "nice work senator sasaki" think when AggonyDuck was being lynched.
I really enjoyed this game, being my first Mafia game. The setting was superb and the game well moderated. Although it irked my that the two people role-playing according to the setting were standing on trial in the first round. I may have to investigate my behaviour for the next Mafia game to see how I can avoid something like that.
I had planned to pay attention to the game despite my demise but the holidays were too distracting so in the end I was left with hardly any clue and had to stick with doc_bean.
Nice game all around and I'm already looking forward to my next game.
Thats my first game too.I liked it, the theme and how its played.When I joined, I red the rules many times, because I dont understood them, but I 'follow the others', when they voted, I too.
The Xiahou problem was he started to use a quote when the mafia used it in the kills.
I voted he at the start of the second votation, but I voted he because i wanted he to talk, but my ****** phase arruinated all.:wall: