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9999! You should have saved THIS for your 10k....Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
I would hope thats an understatment. The dems are screwed if the best shot is someone who can only hold even with hillary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
The Dems still have:
Bernie Sanders
Elizabeth Warren
Tammy Duckworth
Tulsi Gabbard
And the aforementioned Cory Booker.
For Sanders and Warren I can say they have the heart in the right place, about the others I have no idea.
Going by optical value, Kamala Harris could be thrown into the ring. :sweatdrop:
Either way the Democrats have four years while Trump does his thing and who knows whether they will need a star at the end, maybe anyone will do. :clown:
Ehhh, if the rumors of her cozying up to Trump are true, this is doubtful. I cant see her reaching the stardom of Sanders, Warren, or even Duckworth, who I think is a fast rising star.Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
Sanders is aging, and may or may not be physically up to the challenge in 4 years. He and Warren are classic big govt entitlement pols -- they truly do represent the desires/goals of most the DEM rank and file, but would have real problems appealing to middle America. Though I acknowledge that Sanders might have done enough better to edge out Trump had he been the one with the nomination. But he won't edge out an incumbent Trump unless Trump has self destructed (which cannot, of course, be completely discounted despite the best efforts of Spicer and Conway).Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
Duckworth may or may not be eligible as a derived citizen ( I am not sure if Dad's UN work meets the criteria). She is of the right age and has a solid pedigree though. You may have identified a good Dem choice. Gabbard may end up being a strong choice for the Dems, but that would have to be at least 4 and more likely 8 years down the road. Not enough gravitas at present -- especially since she comes from a "sure thing" Dem state already that does NOT have a lot of electoral college clout.
As to Harris, she is the right age, look, and comes from a sure thing Dem state with a LOT of electoral college clout. Only thing against her is limited executive track record. Of course, I said that of Obama as well....
Which might be a point against her.
The dem base may have fond memories of obama in 4 years, middle america is somewhat less enamored with the 8 years of can-kicking. Another "old hopey-changey" (I miss the Colbert character) could backfire nearly as badly as clinton.
I don't think Middle Americans are allowed to vote in the US...
We shall first have to see whether the middle US candidate can actually deliver on his promises or whether he is just "ye olde hopey-changey, GOP edition".
IMO both parties are mostly trying to ignore reality/progress, including Sanders and Warren if they care mostly about saving jobs. I'd rather see us distribute the fruits of robot labor given that I always thought work was a necessity of life every human would rather do without. People who like certain work can do it as a hobby either way. I'm not entirely sure why people would crave getting repetitive and potentially dangerous jobs at a conveyor belt back if there were a viable alternative of not needing a job at all. It's actually not much better/healthier to sit and stare at a screen all day either... The only things that come to mind are strange cultural developments and pure ideology.
All the actually modern ideas in this regard seem to come from Central Europe as far as I'm aware. Although they have not entirely reached mainstream politics here either, we're also under heavy influence of calvinist-capitalist praise of hard work (and yet look forward to retirement all the time...).
This latest story is surely taking the piss? Who leaked this?
Buzzfeed is looking to follow gawker to its sticky end in the u turn of american legal plumbing.
Im crap at toilet puns,
There seems to be a stream of these stories.
Gets clicks
POTUS, reality TV star and sex scandal. Goes together like movies and snacks.
Not sure what exactly you're talking about, but I did have an observation that seems to have gone somewhat unnoticed:
Trump and his supporters keep talking about "bringing back the jobs" as though Mexicans somehow stole them, but the entire underlying tone implies that people in Mexico and the US cannot both have jobs. So what happened to the old trope of Capitalism that everyone can be better off under it? Why can't Capitalism just create new jobs in the US without "taking them away" from the Mexicans? Or is it that the wealth of the USA depends on the poverty of Mexico after all? :inquisitive:
Divide and rule. Blaming the poor for their poverty. Blaming crime on black people. Blaming terrorism on Muslims. This is what we will get for 4 years.
He's blaming poverty on over-regulation and bad free trade deals; he's blaming crime on haphazard law enforcement and overly regulated policing; and terrorism on Muslim extremists. It remains to be seen how much of his rhetoric will translate into substantive policy. I am pretty sure that he is convinced that he is among the best "deal makers" on the planet...proving he has the ego for the job. Hope he can pull off a 10th of what his self-hypnotic hype claims. However, given my doubts, I didn't vote for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Idaho
Liberal Democrats are not hawks, obsessed with military adventures in exotic lands and the global majesty of the United States of America. Nooo, they are affectionate people of peace and prosperity.
Liberal Democrats do not care about christian ethics and sexual preferences. Nooo, they are tolerant people, uninterested in the bedroom affairs of their neighbor.
And yet, here we are... Crying about Manchurian candidates and Russian orgies.
Yeah, that's right, what humiliated Hillary was Putler, who is still a fascist by the way, and lack of morals, definitely not the fact that we never really recovered from 2008, with the unemployment being reduced by half-paid temporary jobs.
I agree somewhat that the whole thing about Putin "hacking" the election and Trump's alleged sex practices seem way over the top.
The whole hacking thing sounds a lot like manipulating the election in an evil way when it was more about revealing the truth. Of course it is very biased since nothing was revealed about Trump (e.g. tax returns), but the implication seems to imply something more sinister.
And yes, for the faction that claims to be about sexual liberation etc., making fun of someone's sex preferences is quite hypocritical.
That still doesn't explain though why Mexicans have to lose jobs for Americans to gain them if Capitalism can supposedly provide wealth for everyone...
I too agree that the whole "Putin hacked the election" and "Trump is a Russian puppet" is a tad overblown. That's not to say that Russian influence isn't a factor to his decision making. I think part of his unusual friendliness to Russia is mostly due to his business interests and holdings, not a sinister Kremlin pulling the strings. Also the way he views relationships between nations.
Notably, several of Trump's picks, including his proposed CIA chief, are being very Hawkish about Russia before the Senate. As Trump gets more and more information about what Russia did I imagine he'll turn cold to an extent. Aside from anything else I would imagine he will be insulted that Putin thought he needed help to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hooahguy
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opi...151556455.html
They should remember though, that InfoWars is just a Comedy Show people get their news from, like the Daily Show. :clown:Quote:
The resemblance isn't merely stylistic. When Olbermann insists that a "bloodless coup" has taken place, with conspirators in the political elite jeopardising America's very existence, he’s arguing against Trump with rhetoric identical to that used by Infowars and Breitbart.com to make the case for Trump.
The response to the intelligence dossier released by Buzzfeed illustrates the same phenomenon. The claims by a former spy remain entirely unverified, in a document commissioned by political opponents and riddled with obvious errors. Editor Ben Smith himself acknowledges that "there is serious reason to doubt the allegations".
Nevertheless, Buzzfeed justifies publication by insisting that Americans should "make up their own minds" - which, for better or for worse, is precisely the rationale that Infowars gives when it covers FEMA camps and chemtrails.
Haha, I'm reading on and it becomes increasingly obvious [warning: fake conclusion] that the article was inspired by my previous post:
Trevor Noah said (paraphrasing here) on the Daily Show that this is just Trump getting a dose of his own medicine, the problem I have with this is that two wrongs don't make a right. There are plenty of valid concerns about Trump, the Democrats going into hyperventilation fake news mode doesn't solve any of them.Quote:
In reality there's precisely zero evidence of Russian ballot tampering. Nevertheless, the truthy notion that Vladimir Putin "hacked the vote" continues to circulate throughout both mainstream and social media, in a curious liberal echo of the "fake news" widely blamed for Trump's victory.
[...]
More importantly, the Podesta files aren't fakes or forgeries. The argument that the publication of genuine emails cost the Democrats the White House thus amounts to an assertion that Clinton lost because the voters learned too much about her.
To put it another way, those claiming that Russia stole the election are arguing that the Democrats were robbed because they were prevented from concealing the difference between what their candidate said and what she truly believed.
He is going to do what he does best - spent 4 years on a state-sponsored ego trip where he celebrates small wins where he has wrestled with some company or country and dismisses everything else - including the vast amount of damage he does on to his minions.
He might get another term - George W did, after all. But already it appears everyone he's picked holds widely differing views to him, so he'll get quickly bored when he can't shout or demand they do things and concentrate on doing what he does best - acting like a used car salesman.
~:smoking:
A little problem with getting rid of NAFTA.
It would cost the U.S. jobs, money and damage the auto industry:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/manu...xico-1.3932234
Gee, it seems Trump's campaign was not all that well thought out... maybe he should have hired Hillary to do the research...:laugh4:
Repealing the Affordable Care Act will cause some serious shockwaves throughout the United States. While the Republicans will enact a legislation package of their own to counter the ACA, the impact on millions of people who have signed up for the ACA will be huge.
I wonder of the impact on those ACA forced to buy unwanted insurance on pain on fines will offset it.
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Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny
I dont get that article, it implies automakers dont care about losing a major market they are dependant on because there are other markets, but doesnt explain why the other markets would make up the slack in profits or demand. I mean it seems like they are implying that mexican car factories were only allowing the sale of thier cars in the US and that the south americans or european markets just need the chance to start buying mexican automobiles in quantities that will offset the american loss.Quote:
Compelling U.S. automakers to shut down or at least stop expanding their Mexican plants won't create more auto-making jobs in the U.S., CAR concludes. A likelier outcome would be that Mexico produces just as many cars as it ever did — they just won't end up coming to the U.S.
What, are mexican car factories just run by tunnel visioned idiots that havent even considerd the potential profits of letting the rest of the world buy cars until trump threatened nafta?Quote:
"Mexico has free trade agreements with 45 countries other than the United States," CAR said. "Mexico has plenty of choices for sources of its manufacturing inputs."
Probably :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
Like the Canadian oil industry, as long as the U.S. market is taking all we can produce, finding other markets was just so much babble.
Now that the U.S. can do just fine w/o our oil, gov't and industry are getting down to the hard work of finding ways to get to the world market.
The best piece I've read on Trump:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.c...android-googleQuote:
Donald Trump is 'gaslighting' all of us
Is Donald Trump really a "big fan" of the intelligence community, as he claimed on Twitter, or did he disparage intelligence professionals when he repeatedly referred to them and their work in sneer quotes about "Intelligence" briefings and the "so-called 'Russian hacking'"?
Did Trump mock a disabled reporter, or did your eyes, and the Hollywood elite make you think he did?
Did he convince Ford not to move a car plant to Mexico, saving American jobs, or was it all a fabrication for publicity?
"Thanks to us noone can say with certainty anymore." - CNNQuote:
Did Trump mock a disabled reporter, or did your eyes, and the Hollywood elite make you think he did?
Did he convince Ford not to move a car plant to Mexico, saving American jobs, or was it all a fabrication for publicity?
Did he win the election with a historically narrow victory, or did he score a "landslide"?
Fox is having a field day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mBKVCNEW1o
Shameful display.
Agreed, CNN has really soiled the bed with this one.
What did they do other than get ignored and not give Cavuto a hug?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades