Read the post before this, I think I do know what I am talking about. Unlike others in this thread.
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Pro-tip: If you want someone other than your colleagues to have Renata murdered (Renata good part of a 2nd Mafia composed of Good guys only for all I know), it's not a good idea for a mafioso to advocate the murder of the person you actually want the town to murder.
Actually, that isn't what happened Jolt. They were working together until Renata started pulling rank because she was going to get kill off and threw Diamondeye out into the cold in order to feed the evil faction a chaotic, however, Renata is the far larger threat and she grows stronger as people are more likely to believe her now since she backstabbed Diamondeye, and the sheep will continue to follow.
They most likely been working together since the whole "Seon - Renata" connection and I been warning the evil faction not to follow Renata all game because I knew who she was, but as usual, the sheep don't listen to those who know best.
There are no memes available that could convey my feelings at the moment.
Except for this one.
https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums...g?t=1305385979
That was a fun game, right up to the end.
The one thing about old games, though, is you can never reread the PM conversations (unless you archive them). The triangle between me, you, and splitpersonality was really cool, though, and I'd love to see that again.
That game was my first introduction to the .org -- not playing, but reading along while playing in ATPG's game at CFC. Good times.
"Foolish Jedi... don't you realize who you're messing with? The greatest and most undetectable mafioso of all time. OF ALL TIME!"
:cool:
Even Mace Windu flees me.
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The multiple levels of myself in this game are very confusing.
Apparently I'm myself, the player.
And another player is playing a character that's me from Capo 3. A character that includes the costumed character that I played in that game - a costume dreamt up by Seamus. And somehow I did not get lynched when there were write-ups of a man dressed as a rabbit killing people.
We need analysis of not just who voted for Diamondeye, but when and in what quantity.
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Visorslash you're a terrible liar and likely scum. Seriously what a failure to deflect attention
I'd like to point out the tally I quite clearly and accurately referred to is the Day FIVE item tally. I'd refer everyone to ATPG's post or just a quick check on the game summary thread which Visorslash can't try to edit or misquote. It's notable that you, Visorslash voted items to Diamondeye all the time in the past yourself, any good explanations?
Now for the really annoying dead liars, here's a little fun fact:
The Innocent (or EVIL MAFIA TEAM) victory condition only requires that me (as I'm one of them, I would know, unlike you dead neutrals) eliminate the chaotics. Neutrals, Serial Killers, other, are not required to be eliminated for our victory. Not only is this crazy case on Renata truly worthless as a distraction but even if it was true, someone like me, a normal Innocent evil guy, would achieve full victory just with eliminating the chaotics, so while that could be premature to the secondary faction victory of wiping out rival factions, still not really important to go for the latter, I'm happy to take down the chaotics at this point.
I said your approach to this is getting worse because of the South Park comment.Quote:
Visorslash you're a terrible liar and likely scum. Seriously what a failure to deflect attention
I think I only voted items to him one day? I did it because he voted me for things. Simple trading. You should be looking for scum elsewhere.Quote:
I'd like to point out the tally I quite clearly and accurately referred to is the Day FIVE item tally. I'd refer everyone to ATPG's post or just a quick check on the game summary thread which Visorslash can't try to edit or misquote. It's notable that you, Visorslash voted items to Diamondeye all the time in the past yourself, any good explanations?
Actually, show me where I lied please?
Work shift until after 1am guys; that means even though the round will end on the appropriate time, calculating results and posting a writeup will take me longer than usual because none of it will be done in advance.
Bear with me, the worst is over. Less players means less time.
Oh, if it's voluntary overtime or whatever, then good for ATPG.
I was just thinking there are much more reasonable full-time shifts than after 1 AM.
Uh, when did pizza guy become a moderator?
When you weren't paying attention.
https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums...g?t=1305508111
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Huh, not even a meme laden image? You're slipping.
Nice editing.
Here's the Day 6 voting history:
1408 dcmort 20 on Earthling
1409 dcmort fold
1419 Chaotix 1 on Renata -> (Renata 1)
1420 BL 10 on DE -> (DE 10, Renata 1)
1425 DE 60 on Renata -> (Renata 61, DE 10)
1429 Renata 10 on Greyblades -> (Renata 61, DE 10, Grey 10)
1435 GE 5 on khaan
1444 Greyblades 30 on Renata -> (Renata 91, DE 10)
1447 Yaseikhaan 40 on Renata -> (Renata 131, DE 10)
1452 shlin 5 on Greyblades -> (Renata 131, Grey 15, DE 10)
1455 Romanic 60 on Greyblades -> (Renata 131, Grey 75, DE 10)
1469 dcmort 30 on Greyblades -> (Renata 131, Grey 105, DE 10)
1470 Greyblades raises 20 on Renata -> (Renata 151, Grey 105, DE 10)
1537 DIY 25 on Greyblades -> (Renata 151, Grey 130, DE 10)
1540 Psychonaut 22 on Greyblades -> (Greyblades 152, Renata 151, DE 10)
1542 Greyblades raises 1 on Renata -> (Greyblades 152, Renata 152, DE 10)
1546 Psychonaut raises 10 on Greyblades -> (Greyblades 162, Renata 152, DE 10)
1557 Bow-wow-wow 20 on Renata -> (Renata 182, Greyblades 162, DE 10)
1597 Renata fold, & 10 on DE -> (Renata 182, Greyblades 152, DE 20)
1602 Psychonaut fold -> (Renata 182, Greyblades 120, DE 20)
1603 Romanic fold -> (Renata 182, Greyblades 60, DE 20)
1611 Greyblades fold, & 51 on DE -> (Renata 131, DE 71, Greyblades 60)
1612 Visorslash 40 on DE -> (Renata 131, DE 111, Greyblades 60)
1615 shlin fold, & 10 on DE -> (Renata 131, DE 121, Greyblades 55)
1620 Earthling 3 on DE -> (Renata 131, DE 124, Greyblades 55)
1623 acin 60 on DE -> (DE 184, Renata 131, Greyblades 55)
1626 Fluffy 15 on Renata -> (DE 184, Renata 146, Greyblades 55)
1628 Fluffy fold -> (DE 184, Renata 131, Greyblades 55)
1635 DIY fold, & 10 on DE -> (DE 194, Renata 131, Greyblades 30)
1638 Visorslash raise 10 on DE -> (DE 204, Renata 131, Greyblades 30)
1639 BL raise 50 on DE -> (DE 254, Renata 131, Greyblades 30)
1640 khaan fold, & 10 on DE -> (DE 264, Renata 91, Greyblades 30)
1642 Bow-wow-wow remove 20 from Renata -> (DE 264, Renata 71, Greyblades 30)
1644 Skooma 10 on DE -> (DE 274, Renata 71, Greyblades 30)
1646 Earthling fold -> (DE 271, Renata 71, Greyblades 30)
1651 Visorslash remove 35 from DE -> (DE 236, Renata 71, Greyblades 30)
1653 Fluffy 27 on Renata -> (DE 236, Renata 98, Greyblades 30)
acin looks very non-Chaotic after turning the tide in Renata's favor (#1623)
Greyblades also looks good in my opinion. I don't see him moving 51 credits on Diamondeye if they are partners (#1611). Too gutsy imo.
Visorslash also looks somewhat good for his 40 credits on DE (#1612). Probably not bussing either (but possible, he could have sensed the tide was turning).
Of course Renata looks awesomely non-Chaotic from all this.
Any bet on DE, done after #1623, could be a chaotic teammate bussing him for Town creds, specially those smaller bets (DIY, khaan, Skooma).
There also was a lot of non-voters, and I'm expecting a Chaotic or two in that list, since it would have been difficult for them to place a safe vote, siding with Renata or DE being two dangerous options. Non voters (not including those who unvoted) : Arpeg, Beefy, Believer, Crazed Rabbit, landlubber, Link, Red_Spy, robbiecon, Subotan, Warman, Winston.
You can draw your own conclusions from this voting record, pretty sure it's correct.
3 hours to go.
Last call if you want to discuss targets for your night actions (send me a PM).
In case I'm dead and never get the chance to make it public: the conversion item I took off Seon has a maximum of two uses, should the chaotics ever get it back. Again, it can only be used when they're down to one player.
Yep, I got the whole description. Along with something along the lines of "of course you can't use it, not being Chaotic and all".
Also, it's a 100% item.
Can we use it ourselves?
Sounds like a stupid question at first but it's not. If we're allowed to use it, and are told the conversion worked, then we would know that there's only one chaotic left, and of course we would lynch the new convert (we'd pick an inactive, or a suspect).
And it would waste the item after two conversions. :smug2:
Not being in possession of this item, I doubt ATPG would answer my question, as it would confirm that the item exists and what his powers are, something that I shouldn't have so Renata can you confirm this with our host? :beam:
As predicted, I can't nor would I confirm the existence of such an item.
I just got in, will get to work on this immediately. DO NOT wait up, this round will run late and eat into the day phase.
EDIT: Orders/calculations are done. Now I just need to do a writeup and send out the results.