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Squawk! Mutiny will not be tolerated. Mutiny will not be tolerated. 2 gold pieces to anyone who votes for Andres. Squawk!
Fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by woad&fangs
*sigh*
Why does Sasaki always have to be right about these things?
Vote: woad&fangs
It's getting close to the end of day 2; it feels strange lynching people so quickly but it's in our best interest for it to be done.
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Originally Posted by Andres
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Originally Posted by atheotes
Would like to hear your reasoning...thats all :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
:laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by woad&fangs
Does it apply to anyone who has already voted Andres?
I already gave my reasoning : Grizzly lied about the pm's; instead of wasting a round on the inevitable lynch of a liar (it's not like catching somebody in a clear lie would not have been the best case we would have had round 1), we took matters in our own hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
Pirates need to kill suspects. I did just that, but I used the vig kill instead of the lynch. I think I've said it earlier in this game: why should we not use all means at our disposal? Vig kill is a powerful tool and Grizzly was a good target.
Vote: Andres
Sleekit AndrestheCunning. I shall pattern my life after the random loopings of your entrails.
Another point of consideration is that Vig Kills are not necessarily a step towards evil, as in Capo III.
The only way the Vig Kills will be detrimental, is that:
No.1: They are headed towards a treasure "personal victory"
No.2: They are scum who are trying to reduce the number of the town even more
Although Point 1 is rendered somewhat ineffective as protections are more efficient in the dollar returns.
Still... there are two sides of the coin as to whether the vig kills are beneficial now, but the point is still moot.
Or scum from the Maven seeking to amass as much coin as possible afore they crawl back to their master.Quote:
Originally Posted by Death is yonder
YARRRR thar be no significant difference between protection and killin', gold-wise.
You need 4 fer killin, result is 40/4 people. 10 each. Minus any fer a fifth member.
You need 3 fer protectin', result is 30/3 people. 10 each. Minus any fer a fourth.
I don't really care why he's right. I'll take what me can get. So long as the end result is good fer this ship, I've suddenly stopped carrrrrrin' about his methods.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
:pirate:
Fos:YaseikhaanQuote:
Originally Posted by Yaseikhaan
Trying to lynch somebody day one...how suspicious.
Sasaki, Andres, AVSM, pevergreen, Jolt. They showed courage last night, I don't think they be afraid to have it known.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
No one is voting mutiny, we just be talking, tis the pirate way.
The things about andres's pm's/kukri etc should be cleared up.
Nein. I posted ze math already. Random vig killing is beneficial to the town--though I don't really support it because it seems lame. Vig killing for good reason is fine night one. Worked well in rubicon too.Quote:
Originally Posted by White_eyes
Random vig killing by everyone in the game would almost certainly cripple both mafia families and end this voyage rather quickly. I myself haven't suggested it because it seem to be game-breaking. The sheer amount of kills done by the town would have rather excellent odds of hitting a traitor, and they would happen too fast fer the traitors to do serious recruiting. There's also seemingly no incentive to not do kills, as doing them doesn't bring you closer to being mafia, as in Capo. Yarrrr.
*sigh*
My own death is acceptable, I didn't aim for it but I had some entertainment with it and got to be the centre of attention so it wasn't all that bad...
Now Woad&Fangs is on the chopping block I feel a little guilty... its all well and good getting myself killed, but getting someone else killed trough my messing around would make me feel bad...
So I can't give away my role but Im assuming I can explain the rational behind my posts....
Firstly my original post about sasaki lying was more of a joke than anything else, I included the laughing smiley in there for a reason (i never once laugh at my own jokes) of course sasaki then came along and said i would claim it was a joke which was a smart move as it gave me no explanation to my actions... I though about extending the joke to include a comment about the terrible spelling and grammar in the post but didn't think i could pull off good enough spelling and grammar in the post to make the joke work....
Look at how that post is constructed, by my standards thats top class written English (i deleted the spelling and grammar joke off the end)
Then onto this post
I be a downright dirty decieving pirate....
Did anyone else notice that post was filled with my attmept at roleplaying... im pretty sure pirates are decietful liars... unfortunately I don't think anyone took this meaning from this...
But roleplaying aside... why the heck would call it a fake and then admit it was not if i wasn't messing around...
Its hardly if at that point people were piling the pressure on calling it out as a real PM i wrote, sasaki's pretty skilled im sure he could have faked such a pm convo from me if he needed to (he probably wouldn't this early though)
As best I can remember thats about it... you could always wait to see my post mortem results to check out what I am. Unfortunately the sharks smell blood and thier not letting up... be careful its not your gold thier after next time...
Lastly, apologies woad&fangs.. looks like I may have got you killed... (i probably owe the rest of the town an apology for making this some of the most useless opening rounds from the towns point of view in recent times)
Unless anyone has any questions about what I said I'll leave it there as it looks like im not helping at all anyway... good luck and happy plundering!
[Language please - GH]
unvote, vote: Andres
@ Woad - Since you are going to walk the plank, you should write a will and distribute your gold to the poor souls who tried to save you :wink: and we will drink to your memory :bow:
(pulls out his blade, points it at atheotes)Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
You opportunistic, schemin', honorless buzzard! ....YARRR!!!! :laugh4: I like the way you think. Cheers matey. :medievalcheers:
LittleGrizzly, why be ye carin' about woad&fangs? Why would ye be speakin' with him if he not be one of the crew of 'protectors' ye said ye was workin' with? Why should he defend you?
CR
woad&fangs: 11 (Sasaki, Yaropolk, ACIN, Sigurd, W_E, Andres, DiY, ATPG, Captain Blackadder, taka, TinCow)
Andres: 7 (DisgruntledGoat, KukriKhan, atheotes, 'khaan, woad&fangs, ricera10, SSN)
Jolt: 2 (pevergreen, YLC)
A1 Unit: 1 (Lord Winter)
Tratorix: 1 (Chaotix)
Psychonaut: 1 (CountArach)
Sasaki: 1( miotas)
Abstain: 3 (Reenk, A1 Unit, Cultured Drizzt fan)
Vote: Abstain
Long weekend round here, can't really keep up as I'm not really not at home much.
FoS: pevergreen & YLC
Why the heck are you both voting for me with no reason?
Trying to create a bandwagon, are we?
Vote: pevergreen
[Language please - GH]
Vote: Andres Well, his opponent be promisin' gold and Andres is apparently very fond of the pursuit of treasure. I'm sure he'd approve.
hmmm......I am thinking of changing my vote for GOLD.....:juggle2 (I am a Pirate after all....) can we get Gold for changing our vote??:book:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tratorix
Andres is now on thin ice, if I do that though...:yes:
Sorry Andres....but that 2 gold is too tempting...:clown:
Unvote:Woad&Fangs Vote: Andres
Perhaps you will match his offer?:deal:
The max gold that Woadsy can give out for people voting for Andres is 10, total. He can split that up however he wants.
-edit- White_eyes, bold your vote.
Ouch! Conspiracy! But he can still distibute it through his will right?
Vote: Andres
For bypassing the democratic process on this here vessel.
Will he still be able to if he gets lynched??:juggle2:
10 gold is kinda bad.....I was assuming we would be able to give ANY sum of gold to not get lynched...would have been more of a greed thing if that was the case:stare:
But I guess Pirates did this out of the kindness of their hearts....."There is no justice":laugh4:
yeah... the 10 gold cap should apply only for services rendered...in this case i am rendering Woad a service at a price of 2 gold :pleased:
by my reckoning the votes are now tied between Andres and Woad...
unvote, Andres, Vote: Woad
All right, drop me a PM if you're voting for Andres only because of woad's gold offer.
YOU WILL ONLY GET THE GOLD IF YOU PM ME. Otherwise I will not distinguish and assume that you're doing so out of the goodness of your heart. :yes:
The gold is better in my hands than the enemies, so I will vote: Andres so the gold doesn't go to the evil British or evil Marques.
Unvote:Andres Vote: Woad&Fangs
1 gold is not worth it....:juggle2:
Bribing people fer votes... and no one has bribed me yet. I'm insulted!!! Did you not hear me when I was singin' fer coin?? Yarrrr....
So you are going to allow 2 gold per vote...
hmm...
get 2 gold or vote for the suspect... :juggle2:
to Roleplay or not... :juggle2:
:thinking:
I am ashamed to call you a pirate - any honest pirate knows that all treasure, whether it is the smallest parrot droppin', or the greatest hoard of lost Incan treasure, must be looted!Quote:
Originally Posted by White_eyes:D
Vote: White Eyes:D
yeah right! :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
unvote, vote: Andres
I need to cast a vote still.
Andres I am not sure I want to lynch. Even if he was a bit 'creative' with the truth about PM's. (Just like Grizzly was. :tongue: )
You crew may divide all the lynch gold amongst yourselves. Me, I only want to make sure our crew gets to actually enjoy its well-deserved gold on some sunny island, with lots of beach, lots of Brazilian girls, and lots of wax.
I am going to make myself some delicious parrot stew, then use its legs as a toothpick afterwards:
Vote: Woad&Fangs
I can't work out what his role is. (Serial killer? Jester?)
But in the absence of woad putting up a defense of why our parrot is pro-town, I'll vote him.
I feel very bad about possibly killing a pro-town role. But neither Grizzly nor Woad can (is allowed to?) make the case why Woad is pro-town.
Do I still get my gold if I vote for Andres receiving justice, but the majority of the crew's minds are fuzzy from too much grog, and they end up voting for Woad by mistake?
And risk having a Vig group visit you?:laugh4:
Ye can't have any use for gold, if your dead...:skull:
Funny how you voted just now, yet your getting mad at me for not being greedy enough?......:inquisitive:
Edit: "Suicide" shlin28 is your new name...:clown:
Well, right now, all of the gold isn't used up yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Subotan
I'll leave little bit of information to you. Make what you want out of it. :yes:
Aye laddie, if you'd be willin' to vote fer parrot droppin's, I'd like to introduce ye to my friend Itchy Lou. His beard be full of the stuff. You can have all ye want if you vote the way I tells ye....Quote:
Originally Posted by shlin28
:pirate2:
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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
:stop: Are you sure he is a parrot? that would mean he is probably not a threat to the town...hmm..
More importantly that would mean he may have not gold to give away :shocked:
I dunno.Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
I am just getting paranoid about all these parrot droppings...
Y'mean the Maven crew? (spits) I believe the Brits would probably have Letters of Marque, though. Got Britain on the brain, Beskar?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Arrgh, they are no different to me. Feeling defensive of your Maven firends, Tratorix?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tratorix
Just thought it was an interestin' slip O' the tongue on yer part. Perhaps you ought to lay off the grog and switch ta somethin' lighter. Tea, perhaps? :wiseguy:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Ahoy there, me hearties!
I be here to let ye know of a special chance to get your own pirate avatar!
For the small price of 7 gold, ye can get your own special, personalized image depictin' yerself as a pirate. For examples o' me previous works, be lookin' here.
A full color image it be, as well, for you to hold on to as long as ye wish! This be a first come, first serve offer.
CR
Perhaps the grog is not to his taste. "Pink Gin" was the traditional drink of British officers I believe...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tratorix
actually it's very tasty, way better than rum mixed with water :sweatdrop:
No true pirate is drinkin' rum for the taste. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Remember tat folks - settin fire to yer friends is how Beskar goes about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Arrg, ye sayin ye don't like the taste of grog? Why, me mother fed it to me by the spoonful as a lad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tratorix
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If the vote is tied within 15 minutes of the deadline, I have 5 gold for whoever breaks it so that woad gets lynched.
ARR! This truly be th' most piratical lynch ever seen on th' high seas! Our captain surely be lookin' up at us from Davey Jones' Locker with pride! ARR!
I like it just fine. :pirate: I'm jus sayin' there's other things about it I like more. And now you put up an offer that makes me regret sellin' me vote early. :wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Me wonders why the White Eyes be offering money for votes? Perhaps he has no value for gold yarr?
Ahoy from me, ye scallywags!
I be here to let ye know of a special chance to get your own dirty pictures of the loosest whenches from all over the Caribbean!!
For the small price of 10 gold, ye can get your own special image!
The be the most scandalous, smuttiest pictures ye 'av ever seen! I dread to show them to even you hardened (pun) pirates!
'Ere's one to whet yer appetite:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
I'm in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
If there's a tie, 10 gold will go to the sailor who votes for Andres to meet his deserved fate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Okay, just to preserve my sanity, all transactions need to be verified by PM. :dizzy2:
Yo ho, yo ho a pirate's life fer me. :laugh4:
Very well, I up my offer to 10 as well. But I'm curious, why are you so eager to see andres dead that you'd give up that amount of gold?Quote:
Originally Posted by Subotan
Woad is probably mafia, and eliminating him before nightfall could be a great help to us.
I'm guessin' he just did it ta screw up yer offer. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
YARRR!!! My vote be fer sale, but I won't do anything for less than a hundred.... err... thousand... a million doubloons! Any takers? I tells ya what, I'll even throw in Itchy Lou, for... double the price. If ye act now ye get a ten percent discount... err... rebate. Mail-in rebate... that takes eight to ten years fer delivery. Satisfaction guaranteed*!
*not a guarantee.
Like I said:
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Originally Posted by Subotan
Offering gold for votes isn't very democratic, now is it ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Subotan
Do you intend to vote for all the other vigilantes? Do you think LG was innocent?
Ah, setting a trend now am I :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Maybe I should go back into my merchant role from Khaans game.
The line between "persuasion" and mob rule is quite thick. Besides, I'm only helping sustain the democratic process. :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Maybe. But seeing as how I can't read the future, I have no idea what the circumstances surrounding their actions will be like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Besides, that's not even the real reason.
Inciting mutiny amongst the crew has serious repercussions. Captain Rabbit is the Captain for a reason; he was elected by this here crew, and leader of this here crew he shall remain. By threatening mutiny, Andres is leading a coup against the very principles of piracy; the individual pursuit of treasure for the benefit of the whole crew, rather than the autocratic demands of a Admiralissimo out only for himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Also, why aren't we asking why are you so determined not to see Andres dead? Is it because of this sentence?
Hmm. Suspicious much?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
So to single out this for a moment, you said it was the reason, I asked what the reason was and you said it was the reason again, I question the reason and you say "that's not even the real reason"?Quote:
Besides, that's not even the real reason.
:stare:
Andres has something odd about pm'ing louis saying something that contradicts kukri sending him a pm at the same time or something...he needs to answer what louis was asking him about. Right now, I think LG was mafia and woad is his partner--that makes him a priority.
So you dropped one explanation when it wasn't working for you, and delved into roleplaying about "true pirates" as an excuse.Quote:
the very principles of piracy;
:juggle2:
I didn't say it was the reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
OK, that seems to be a reasonable train of thought. I'll concede, if we agree to bring Andres to trial before his peers after wiping out Woad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Regardless of the silly RPing I did, my argument still holds that Andres was inciting mutiny, and that you in particular seemed to benefit from his continued survival :pirate:Quote:
So you dropped one explanation when it wasn't working for you, and delved into roleplaying about "true pirates" as an excuse.
I killed a suspect. That's what pirates do on this boat: taking out suspects. Lynching is not the only way to do that. Thinking that would be narrow minded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Subotan
Vote: Present
College is leaving me BAMBOOZLED.
Er, ARR MATEYS PILLAGING BABIES IS LEAVING ME POOPED ON THE POOPDECK
I think thats why thier voting you.... to kill a suspect, rather than just someone messing around (me) we have a confirmed killer, so the reasoning is fairly obvious...Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Sasaki how confident are you about my guilt (and woads by association) you willing to hand over say the fee of 30 gold (or 15 per player) when you discover your wrong to the captain ?
I bet woad would be willing to give up all of his money should I be proven guilty, are you so confident woad ?
Yarrr... why are you so keen to make bets about yer supposed innocence, LittleGhostly? We will know what you are in a couple days' time. Focusing on yourself does nary a thing for catching the traitors here.
unvote: W&F
Vote: Andres
Yar! killin' be bad! Especially so soon!
I find it strange that Andres is the choice of the lynch for participating in a vigilante kill, when Sasaki not only participated, but organized it and encouraged it as well. Why are all of you Andres bandwagoners not voting for Sasaki?
I was a doctor in Capo and almost died from a random vig kill :brood:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
vote: Andres
I voted for the promised gold, not because i find him more suspicious than Woad :pirate:Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
I don't quite get all the votes for andres either...wonder what the vote count is.
LG, if you were town you would have no way of knowing that woad was innocent, yet you claim that :book:
And the last time I made one of those "if you turn out to be innocent" promises I was mafia...CR will remember ~D
Seeing as how this quote is a point of discussion above:
Andres PM'ed me and Kukri looking for a job. I replied with possibilities for protection jobs. Then Andres and Sasaki got in contact about vigging Grizzly. Then Kukri's reply came back to Andres. Andres by then was already engaged in killing Grizzly. It is mostly cleared up, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
At any rate, we know who the vig group members are. And Andres gave a defense of his actions. We may agree or disagree with it, with killing Grizzly, I for one do not intent to kill five people over it.
He committed to actions on behalf of the ship and then blatantly failed to see them through, publicly lying to all an' sundry about the affair in the aftermath, putting personal [or other] gain first. As for Sasaki, you're already aware of my views, can't speak for others.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Vote:Sasaki Kojiro Remeber rule #1.
Unvote:Vote:Woad and fangs
Besides, as I recall, we're supposed to be voting for this:
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Originally Posted by GH