Should make an intresting write up if we get to court, and after that, it'd be like an episode of OZ.
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Should make an intresting write up if we get to court, and after that, it'd be like an episode of OZ.
$20 was a lot of money to lose.... :shocked:
Sorry guys, just moved back to school so I'm a bit busy at the moment. Look for an update in a couple of hours.
While we're throwing around theories...
What if we're an ex SysTech employee, and we found out something we REALLY shouldn't have, like they plan to assassinate the president, and take over the country, or the CEO is Magneto, or that soilent green is people.
And if the cops are somehow being paid by SysTech to find us, we're pretty boned.
You check around for odd occurances, finding nothing. "All right, friend," Officer Purvis says, "Unfortunately, we don't have *any* matches, not even partial ones. I'm not sure exactly where you came from, but it's like you never existed before today. We've got you in the system now, which will help if something comes up in the future, but for now we can't help you anymore. Best of luck in the future." You shake the officer's hand and leave the station, disappointed.
By the time you walk back downtown, it will most likely be time for the psychological experiment. Where would you like to go now?
We're a clone, or a synthetically created human.
If no one else got that by reading the officer's words, then there it is.
or at least I"m leaning towards that.
There is also a slight possibility that we were created with the sole purpose of being some sort of spy, and this psychological experiment might bring that out in us, but that is only mindless speculation.
I vote we go to the psychological experiment now.
We can speak the language without a problem.
Do we have the same accent as the natives?
So we seem to be American at least.
Btw, does everyone have to register their finger prints in America?
No, as far as I know this is just the criminal database.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefy187
If we're not in the criminal database that means that we're not criminals, but what the officer said was very.... specific... too specific to let go I think.
I agree that he was too specific, especially if not everyone has to register their finger print.Quote:
Originally Posted by spL1tp3r50naL1ty
But I didn't get the clone part. What makes you say that?
Perhaps this is a parallel world. Not everything is the same as the world we know.
Anyway, I also vote we go to the psychology experiment.
Go downtown and do the experiment.
If the experiment is what caused it, then at least we have a record now.
Well, in this version of the world, people seem to be a lot more conformist. Maybe that has to do with universal fingerprinting?
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Originally Posted by Beefy187
"It's as if you didn't exist before today."
Something that is entirely viable.
You don't know WHO you are, WHERE you are, or HOW you got there. A clone would not have memories, as they would be freshly created from just raw materials, you can't MAKE memories in the human mind, we're not that advanced in science yet...
If you look at sci fi, it could also be a product of teleportation or time travel.
Modern teleportation theories state that we would have to clone ourselves, in a different location, and then immediately terminate the original copy, so that your "consciousness" is transferred to your new consciousness.
Perhaps something went wrong and we didn't have our memory transferred successfully?
A clone would also have the same finger prints as whoever they were cloned as though wouldn't it?
Not necessarily, the fact that there are not even "partial matches" gives this lots of reason as well...
There should be at least a couple of partial matches over nothing... Perhaps we're an alien from another planet then? :laugh4:
If we are from the future (and if everyone is registered on the data base) we should be on the data base unless we are more then 100 years apart.
From the Croatoan message and Rosetta Stoned, we know for sure that we have some message to deliver. Aliens and Future person maybe, but what would the clone have to say?
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Originally Posted by Beefy187
But everyone is not registered in the database... it's a criminal database, ergo we wouldn't be there unless we're a criminal in the future.
Wow, all I got from the write up is that we aren't a criminal.
No, not at all. Fingerprints are complete individual.Quote:
Originally Posted by CCRunner
It's also possible that we are a chimera - a clone of several people combined into one. We could detect this pretty easily, in a relative sense.
Hmmm...on second thought IT IS a good possibility we may be a clone of several people. The Rosetta Stone was sought in Alchemy as a means for immortality and perfection.
Think about it, and it starts to make a little sense. If we are, then we'd be at peak human capability - I think we should test ourselves a bit, see how strong, enduring, or fast we are.
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Originally Posted by YLC
Are you suggesting we fight the cop?
I think more, find a jogger and race him, see how we do :grin:
Find a gym maybe?
We'll lets head for the Psychology test first. Then once we make it out of there alive, we can test our theories.
I think we might be constructing an elaborate theory out of not very much, although it does look like a hint from GH.
We don't need to be a clone to have "not existed". We could be some kind of Jason Bourne style military experiment (which obviously wouldn't be listed on any database, and might explain the hole in the defence money).
I'm really intrigued about the house we started in. We started in the basement of some random guy's house, who seemed surprised to find us there. The lights were off, so it seems likely that someone put us there. It's just a very weird situation.
On the basics of 'if' I think gym would be a bad idea, dispite having problems finding one, it is likely you'll need membership or will at least have to dish the cash in some way or another. We're only getting $50 for the experiment, were not wasting it just to see if we can break walls. Its much easier just to go up to something inanimate and punch it. :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefy187
Thinking more about the room we started in. This room is the only concrete thing we have about the time before we woke up. All this stuff about clones and psychology experiments could be just hot air generated by GH to see how we react. I think we should head back to where we started, preferably with a friendly police officer in tow, to try and explain the situation to the owner of the house and hopefully get permission to question him about his basement.
EDIT: This plan might be difficult unless we can get the police on board. The guy had a shotgun and wasn't very friendly.
True. But it would be a better investment then a Cigarette.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury
If we are to investigate our physical level, we should do everything.
Was it the basement? In that case, its less likely we ended up there during robbery, but rather teleported there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrddraal
If we can get the police to help, I think its definitely worth it.
Or maybe *they* wiped the short-term memory, temporarily, from the guy with the shot gun. Like in Men in Black with those flashy things. None of us (except GH :clown:) know what this world is like, aside from it being right about now if the newspaper is to be correct. There are just little add ons, like your typical sci-fi game universe, or even non-sci-fi game (Resident Evil and almost all zombie games come to mind for some reason).
My vote goes to alien. Maybe we have telekinesis or can shoot fire out of our butt.Quote:
Originally Posted by spL1tp3r50naL1ty
But if we were a clone or a chimera we'd have a match in the database. After all, a clone is an exact copy of someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
Okay, let's say we are an alien.
Were we not sent here with a mission, a purpose?
Would alerting the police that something odd is going on come back to bite us in the :daisy: at some point?
Likely yes if we went around doing alien things :P
I didn't say we were an alien, that's just the coolest theory. :tongue:
See? Where's the "OMG WE'RE GOING TO JAIL ITZ TEH END" guys now? Nothing happened in the Police.
Simple. Since the police hasn't helped, we'll go do the experiment and if no new information comes out of it, we go to the hospital and we find ourselves a doctor to whom we explain the amnesia.
Flick a wall with your finger. If nothing happens slap it. Then punch it if it doesn't hurt.
You make your way back downtown and return to the building in which they're doing the psychological experiment, getting in a quick smoke before you enter the building. Dragging down that nicotine is starting to come easier to you now.
Taking the elevator back up, you enter the office and greet the receptionist. "Welcome back, sir, the experiment will begin in a couple of minutes. In the meantime, feel free to take a seat over there with the rest of the participants. Help yourself to some coffee, too." You silently swear to yourself. It seems like coffee is available everywhere in this town for free and yet you still managed to pay for a cup.
******Status update******
Stage completed: Exploring Phoenix
Inventory:
- Wallet with $67
- Backpack
- mp3 player with "Rosetta Stoned" loaded on it
- Slip of paper with "Croatoan" written on it
- Pack of cigarettes (semi-used)
- Cigarette lighter
Feedback:
A mixed bag. Some of your decisions early on in the stage were absolutely atrocious, most notably alienating the kind woman from the bus, who could have been a potential resource. You've made up for it later on though, by trying to find out when you are (the real-time present day) as well as taking the proper steps to try and establish your identity. Even though those attempts were unsuccessful, at least it's a start. In addition, after some questionable purchases, you're on the road to earning some additional money in the form of the psychological experiment.
You also seem to have begun smoking. Only time will tell how much this affects you in the future.
(OOC: This will most likely be the last update for tonight.)
I'm gonna draw the line and say no alcohol.
Also:
Throw the cigarettes into the garbage can before you get addicted. If you want one, punch yourself in the stomach and the the :daisy: over it.
We REALLY don't need to waste money. Or die of lung cancer.
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Originally Posted by Double A
I think we should chat to the participants while were waiting, see there background and why they are doing the experiment, but also if they know anything more about it than yourself.
I wonder if GH actually has a plan for this game lol or if its all just made up along the way haha, maybe by doing this game he is conducting a experiment on us lol.
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Originally Posted by YLC
This is from a little far back, but I still think it's relevant.
The stone you're thinking of, YLC, is the Philosopher's Stone, not the Rosetta Stone.
The Rosetta Stone is a massive, ancient stone tablet that was found in Rosetta, Egypt, by British invaders. The stone had the same message written in Egyptian hieroglyphs, ancient Egyptian common language, and ancient Greek- it was erected by one of the Ptolemies. Basically, the presence of three languages that said the same thing allowed linguists to decode the grammatical structure and vocabulary used for each one. It's currently in the British Museum in London, I saw it just 2 years ago.
Still, the Tool song itself is probably our real clue, not just the title. I think it's plausible that our character could be a clone. Also, whose brilliant idea was it to make him start smoking? :laugh4:
*epically facepalms*Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaotix
And I say I studied history...
I was wondering why you thought the Rosetta Stone did that... and I haven't had "high school" history yet.
You throw your cigarettes in the garbage before they can do any further damage to you. It's probably a good thing you did so so early, as the period of withdrawal will be almost nonexistent.
As you make your way back from the trash can, you notice three other people also seated for the first time. No doubt they are here for the experiment as well. One of them is a college student; stringy, with somewhat long hair. He's listening to some music on his mp3 player right now. Another is an attractive, but over-made-up female in her mid-20s. She is constantly checking her watch. The last person there is a gentleman in his mid-60s. He is wearing glasses and is very well-dressed.
You will only have time to talk to one of these people before you are called in. Alternatively, you could say something to all three of them which will serve to break the ice, but you will not get to know anything more about any of them in this case.
Is it possible to ask a passing question to one, and then focus on another?
The college guy is probably here to get booze/drug money, that chick's probably a bimbo, so I say we talk to the old dude.
No. If you pick one, you have to focus on that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
I vote we talk to the girl, and use the exact same tactics we did on the old lady. :laugh4:
And then we can take her $50 after we're done!
:inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
I'm not following this line of thought, and I'm not sure I want to...
We aren't a criminal. We don't have to get into crimes just yet.
The lady is obviously a trap. Lets go for either college student or the old gentleman.
i vote old man, and use the same tctics as old ldy :laugh4:
or maybe we should seduce the college student, you know what thebsay about those long scruffy haired guys :P
GH: Do we find any of the three sexually appealing?
If the old man is willing to do this hes probably senile. I think the college student would be as gormless as yourself, attractive woman, mid twenties might have a different take on things? :grin: Plus shes pressed for time, sounds a bit more interesting than the others? If she is a bimbo (heavily made up) it might have us figure out why her of all people are taking a psychological experiment also.
If we talk to the old man, at least we'll get a funny reaction.
How about we actually get to know one of these people, instead of sizing them up based upon whether or not they might want to get lucky.
:wall:
I say old man.
Alright, I see where most of the opinion lies here. Let's get this game going again, there's been no orders all day.
Strike up a conversation with the old man. Ask him about what made him decide to take this psychological experiment. If he asks us the same thing, then claim we are a little short on cash, and thought this would be a good idea. If he is initially cold and aloof, then compliment his clothing to try and warm him up.
Deciding that talking with the elderly gentleman would be the most interesting/productive, you strike up a conversation with him. After shooting the breeze for a bit, you ask him why he chose to take the experiment.
"Well," he says, "I need the money. I had a good, solid job for most of my life. I worked in real estate. So all of my hard work and saving went down the drain pretty quickly once the housing bubble burst. Didn't help that my agency was bought out by some research firm that had no connection with real estate, either. Got to love the M.O. of these mega-corporations, eh? Whatever happened to specialization?"
The man seems like he could go on talking about boring white-collar issues for a while.
Perhaps ask the specifics about the research firm which bought out his agency?
$5 its systech.
Yeah it makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
Ask the old man if he knew what research firm bought out his agency and if he knew what they were planning to do/build there. Try not to butt in if hes on a rant and be respectful. Also ask him if he knows anything more about what the psychological experiment entails.
"I can't remember its exact name; it was just another faceless entity to me, the kind of company that controls a bunch of other companies that are more familiar to the American public. Sort of like Berkshire-Hathaway, although I know it wasn't them. Maybe Aperture Science? No, wait, that's a name my grandson's been talking about a lot lately. I'm sorry about that. As for what they wanted to do, who knows? I got canned very early on after the acquisition. Old guy like me, been with the company for a couple of decades? I had no chance of surviving that merger. None. So that's why I'm stuck here, doing this experiment because it's a guaranteed 50 bucks. My grandson needs a birthday present in a couple of weeks and this is going to pay for it."
Before the man can say more, the four of you are ushered into the next room by a very professional woman. She looks to be in her early 40s, but is still mildly attractive.
"Greetings and thanks for coming," she says. "My name is Angela Larson and I'll be helping administer the experiment today. This shouldn't take more than two hours and complimentary refreshments will be provided at the end, along with your $50. I'm now passing out what is pretty much a consent form to all of you, signifying that you agree to take part in the experiment and will not hold us liable for any damages, however unlikely, that may arise from your participation. I urge you to read over it and ask me any questions before you sign."
She passes you the piece of paper and a pen. The overly made-up woman signs immediately. The other two participants are taking a bit more time.
Take a brief look at the consent paper.
Wink to the middle aged woman.
:2thumbsup::2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I'm getting an Aperture Laboratories mug in the post :smash:
The first part of the consent form is just that: "You agree to give consent to... etc." Nothing particularly interesting. The second part is the liability form. It reads "By agreeing to take part in this experimental study, you hereby waive all rights to hold the Madison Psychological Research Institute liable for any such damages incurred by the study, and agree that the Madison Psychological Research Institute is not responsible for any effects that the study may have on your being.
Below that is the signature line, and below that is a bit of fine print. "Certified ethical by the American Psychological Association."
Hehehe, I noticed GeneralHankerchief added a certified ethical mention from my previous mentioning.
Sign it John Smith and take the test.
(back to where I said we should call himself John Smith and there was implied agreement, since no one disagreed)
I think we should sign "José Mourinho". That name will quickly increase our odds of success at everything.
Ahem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
All the way back to page 10...
I presumed that the silence to my proposal meant there were no objections. Therefore, we're called "Calvin Hobbes"Quote:
Originally Posted by Subotan
Does it really matter what we're named? It seems like a trivial matter...
Just sign the :daisy: thing...
It does matter. Partly because I picked it, but also becaue John Smith is the most obvious fake name ever.
No it isn't, I actually know two real John Smiths.
Also, that was the joke of it.
Pretty sure I suggested we are named Michael J. Caboose and I got a second.
:beam:
You know, the best name would be: Splitpersonality.
And Calvin Hobbes isn't? Especially a Calvin Hobbes who's going to do a psychological experiment?Quote:
Originally Posted by Subotan
Seriously... Who cares about the name.... Lets move on shall we lol.
Might as well write: Sigmund Freud, Jean Piaget, John Watson, Burrhus Frederic Skinner, Noam Chomsky, Russell Spears, Harvey Saches, etc.
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Originally Posted by Jolt
Mine was first, and Double A was seconding something else:snobby:Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
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Originally Posted by Subotan
My name has a middle name. :smug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
You sign the paper and hand it back to Angela, who finishes collecting the rest of them. She disappears into the next room for a moment and reemerges with several more sheets of paper. They are grouped together by staple.
"What follows next is the written portion of the study," she says. "Please answer all questions honestly. Failure to answer every question will result in a forfeiture of the $50. Once you are done, just let me know and I will collect your answers. Once everyone is finished, then we can move on to the practical portion." She passes out the questions and motions for you to begin. The questions are as follows:
1. You are a healthy adult adrift at sea with no hope of immediate rescue. Two other people are adrift with you: Another healthy adult with whom you have a friendly relationship, and a child whom neither of you know who is starting to feel the effects. The three of you are starving. Which one of you do you choose to sacrifice to buy the other two time?
2. A cataclysmic event is happening planetwide. You have a well-stocked bunker and will manage to survive indefinitely, but the bunker can only hold five people aside from yourself and there are several people vying for the spot. Whom do you choose, keeping in mind that your party may be the only people on Earth that survive the cataclysm:
- An elderly professor that has won several community awards, but refuses to go without...
- His wife, who is past childbearing age and refuses to go without her husband
- An infertile professional chef
- A 32-year-old ex-Marine, who was dishonorably discharged
- A 27-year-old male computer programmer who originally dropped out of med school
- A 51-year-old handyman/mechanic, who may or may not be able to still have children
- A 19-year-old pregnant crack addict
- A 33-year-old single mother, who refuses to go without...
- Her 7-year-old daughter, who will go without Mommy but will probably never be the same
- A Catholic priest
3. Ignoring the inherent paradoxes, if you had a time machine and were allowed to go back in time to prevent one person's assassination from happening, who would you choose and why? Keep in mind that the world you are coming back to will not be the same because of your actions.
4. Would you rather spend five years with the love of your life and then die, fully content, or live a full lifetime without ever experiencing love?
5. How did you feel about the ending of "The Sopranos" and how would you have ended the show? You may ask a neighbor or the test facilitator if you are unfamiliar with the show.
6. Define success.
7. You and your 18-year-old son are traveling in a foreign country. You are going through Customs when the inspectors find a high-potency illegal drug in your son's suitcase. He has been in trouble with this drug before. However, in this country, the fine for possession and smuggling is much steeper and your son will spend a long time in prison. Do you cover for your son and take the rap or let him suffer the consequences, knowing this may well be the last time you ever see him?
(OOC notes: First of all, even though your character is suffering from a case of amnesia, assume he still has the ability to answer Question #5. Secondly, orders-givers may answer however many or little questions they want to, in any order, but the game will not progress until all questions have been answered.)
Oh god this is going to take us an age to answer with our split personality. lol
Consider yourself lucky; I originally had this sucker at 20 questions before cutting it down. :evil:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stildawn
You answer number 6 first....
Success: an event that accomplishes its intended purpose