Kingdoms Teutonic Hotseat: The Frozen North (completed, winner Visorslash)

HRE is up

sly, I think I have all of your armies trapped...we'll see if they can fight their way out.

Myth, help yourself to that city, also Jazdow if you like. I'll just take Thorn and Marienburg and you won't have any order spearmen any more.

We'll see.

I will play my turn tonight :)

Can I have a 48 hour extension please?

Yeah, sure thing

Ok, I'm on my new PC right now having just installed Medieval 2 Kingdoms. For some reason, when I try and load the save, to begins to load, gets half way, the quote dissapears, and then I am taken back to the main screen. Any idea what I could be doing wrong? >.<

Did you install the custom mod we were using to make Norway and Mongols more playable?

Or you have forgotten the Kingdoms patch?

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Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey

Or you have forgotten the Kingdoms patch?

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You are correct, Phonics. I'm to bust tonight and tomorrow to play my turn, so to keep the game moving, could Myth please sub me? I'm sure he is more than capable of covering me for just one turn :)

Does he have your password?

IIRC, Myth has subbed Sly in the past, so I would hope he would.

Indeed I do. I'll sub him here and in TATW but tonight.

Norway up.

The small captain-lead Mongol force (out of the three stacks besieging the Emperor) has been defeated and can't move. Unfortunately, out of nearly 10 HRE commanders not one had developed the vital Night Fighter that would have allowed me to beat the Mongol forces. The war is not yet lost however, and no Monkeyish foot will step in Poznan if the Teutonic Order can do anything about it!

Go Mongols :P

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Unfortunately, out of nearly 10 HRE commanders not one had developed the vital Night Fighter that would have allowed me to beat the Mongol forces.

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It is a well-known historical fact that Medieval Germans were afraid of the dark.

No, only those who get put in command of the Reich's armies apparently :P

Denmark. Beat two Danish ships back (you did say the fleet between yours was the only one of mine that couldn't move?) and lost another sea battle.

By the way, is a ship under a blockaded port allowed to sail off? That was the fleet of mine that lost. I didn't think about it until after.

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By the way, is a ship under a blockaded port allowed to sail off? That was the fleet of mine that lost. I didn't think about it until after.

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well...the rules don't quite cover that :clown:

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no leaving a blockaded fort without defeating the blockading navy

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He attacked it and because he lost it retreated. No harm done.

But harm has been applied elsewhere. :smug:

@ Zim

:blush: I just decided not to attack any navies.

Everyone else: :2thumbsup:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/fum9ay

TO!

Myth?

Aw man bad habbit of opening .org PMs at work, and then there's nothing to remind me at home to do the turn. I'll do this tonight.

Mongols.https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...id=205&id=9569

Monkey you're lucky (or really good at calculating character MPs). My green line was two squares away from reaching your main stack. I suppose remembering to siege from the West was done on purpose though, for which credit is due.

I can see your movement range when I click on your guys - so no alchemy there, just an unfair advantage the game gives me because of my position in the turn order.

Poznan survives (I'm too nervous to assault while the odds are 1:1) but Baranavichy falls and the HRE dudes inside are put to the sword.

My days are somewhat limmited...

Norway: Attachment 2594

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My days are somewhat limmited...

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Denmark

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Why so much smiling Visor? Monkey is doing all the dirty work as far as the HRE is concerned. You're not 1v2ing us.

Besides, I like to think I did most of the hard work against the TO...no matter how true it is or isn't :clown:

You could have ended me if you had only kept the territories you had taken (the castles primarily). I gave away the fight when I led that stupid crusading noble with 0 command lead the army AND I did not let him sleep in a fort. Twice I've done this in FN and both times I've suffered defeat by being 3v1ed. But I've learned my lesson now! Anyway If you had pushed after defeating him and taken the two castles in the heart of my territories and possibly Jazdow I'd have had no way to raise more cost efficient stacks. Cost effectiveness is the only way for the TO to survive if it has not gone out to blitz Lithuania all out to get more cities for revenue.

If I ever get a second chance to play them I'd be sure to not attack Poland early on. I think back when Tristan was playing them the mass confusion and lack of proper conspiracy efforts vs him made a major contribution to his victory.

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Monkey is doing all the dirty work

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It's about time I did something in this game other than betray my allies and take undefended settlements.

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back when Tristan was playing them

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...you may well be right, but that boy was downright scarily good at hotseats. One of my proudest achievements was beating off his Norse when I was Scotland in a Britannia hotseat, but it left Scotland so devastated I had neither the money nor population to survive.

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it left Scotland so devastated I had neither the money nor population to survive.

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good times... :laugh4:

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Why so much smiling Visor? Monkey is doing all the dirty work as far as the HRE is concerned. You're not 1v2ing us.

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Aren't I?

I think I may have pushed too far. :smash:

TO up!

http://www.sendspace.com/file/8dkqlg

(Damned turn. I took my time, and I still think I screwed up. :tongue:)

Funny, Zim said that Scotland could wipe out Norway in Britannia before King Haakon came. The only way he beat Cecil was because he killed off all of his FMs in one battle, at least that's what he tells me. But Zim is the modest type so... Anyway, according to him Norway has no way to take out Scotland (bar lucky circumstances).

I'm eager to play with or verus Tristan, I've only heard about his skill never put it to the test.

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I'm eager to play with or verus Tristan, I've only heard about his skill never put it to the test.

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Fixed that for ya.

You don't get to play on the same side as de Castelreng, at least not for very long...

Backstabber is he? Only fixed team games for him then! :D

Mongols up.

So...

Dispersed the conga-line of Mongol reinforcements for the siege of Poznan. They can't move next turn. And the siege continues, seeing as how the HRE has been making more militia in Poznan while Monkey's men haven't really gotten stronger.
Retook Jazdow.
Besieged Cracow.

Visorslash: You sent the remainder of your full stack down South to capture an 800 population motte&bailey? I'm sure with your vast territories you can conjure up new stacks rather quickly, but that 4000 gold worth of forts you made to keep the Hochmeister at bay must have put a dent in your purse! Next turn I expect to reclaim some ground versus Denmark.

I'll let you take that town you're besieging, I needed that 1000 gold that could have saved it elsewhere. In a few turns this investment should bite you in the rear.

oops I missed this because the save was edited in instead of newly posted and for some reason I read and then immediately forgot your pm

I'll try to get to it tonight.

Mongol conga! I didn't think you could recruit while under siege?

I'm pretty sure you should be able to?

Can't.

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Visorslash: You sent the remainder of your full stack down South to capture an 800 population motte&bailey? I'm sure with your vast territories you can conjure up new stacks rather quickly, but that 4000 gold worth of forts you made to keep the Hochmeister at bay must have put a dent in your purse! Next turn I expect to reclaim some ground versus Denmark.

I'll let you take that town you're besieging, I needed that 1000 gold that could have saved it elsewhere. In a few turns this investment should bite you in the rear.

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You have no idea....

HRE is up

The doom of the Teutonic races is writ large in the stars by Great Tengri.

Stars-shmarz, did you assault Poznan?

BTW In single player I can make units whle being besieged, not sure why you'd say it's not possible.

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BTW In single player I can make units whle being besieged, not sure why you'd say it's not possible.

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As far as I know, they won't be recruited.

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Why so much smiling Visor? Monkey is doing all the dirty work as far as the HRE is concerned. You're not 1v2ing us.

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I didn't want to point this out, but have you talked to Slysnake recently?

I thought you can queue them up but they don't actually get recruited until the siege is broken.

No, I didn't assault Poznan, just left it in siege same as last turn.

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I thought you can queue them up but they don't actually get recruited until the siege is broken.

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I believe that's the way it goes.

Anyway, Myth, did you siege one of the blocking forts?/Take Siauluai?

Yes and no.

Excellent. :smug:

Don't think you'llbe able to pull your trick again and assault the Hochmeister with overwhelming numbers. You ain't lifting that siege.

You'll likely lose one settlement next turn, and one more in the turn after that, as well as me reclaiming the city you're sieging with feudal knights now.

Feudal knights... seriously? Are you made of money?

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Don't think you'llbe able to pull your trick again and assault the Hochmeister with overwhelming numbers. You ain't lifting that siege.

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That's not the plan. :smug:

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You'll likely lose one settlement next turn, and one more in the turn after that, as well as me reclaiming the city you're sieging with feudal knights now.

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Not a problem.

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Feudal knights... seriously? Are you made of money?

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(I really like that smiley. :tongue:)

Doesn't matter how many settlements you take with your remaining troops Myth, it's armies that win the game and yours are running out. You can't replace them quickly enough.

Once your armies are defeated it's just a cleanup operation.

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(you're right Visor, that did feel good) :clown:

And we can just spam troops at you.

It is good, isn't it phonics. :clown:

I mean, I am now more German then the HRE. :tongue:

We shall see.

Well, how much of a chance do you give yourself for winning this?

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You'll likely lose one settlement next turn, and one more in the turn after that, as well as me reclaiming the city you're sieging with feudal knights now.

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SO either Siauluai, or Windau. Then where? Got ships? :laugh4: Both? My army will smash yours. :tongue: And the hochmeister ain't going to be living much longer....

No point in theories. Just play.

Norway is up Attachment 2791

And Visor, either you are low on cavalry right now, or you just didn't know better, but leaving 2 generals by themselves in forts was not a good idea! :2thumbsup:

Did you beat my army sieging Lida?

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And Visor, either you are low on cavalry right now, or you just didn't know better, but leaving 2 generals by themselves in forts was not a good idea!

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Generals which had no command or loyalty. I was using them to distract your catapult/armies. Did you beat any other forces of mine?

for you, luckily not..

So only those two generals? :2thumbsup:

Ah, well that was an okay turn.

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Don't think you'llbe able to pull your trick again and assault the Hochmeister with overwhelming numbers. You ain't lifting that siege.

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Beginning to see endgame here clearly. Turn 30 maybe.

TO up!

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ppa6w1

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Ah, well that was an okay turn.


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Beginning to see endgame here clearly. Turn 30 maybe.

TO up!

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ppa6w1

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Look man your smiley faces and smug attitude about this game are beginning to annoy me up to the point where playing this game is more negative emotions than positive ones. You lied to me in real life so that you can get such a huge momentum going. If you think you're a better player you should have tried to take me on fair and square ok? Now either play quietly or I'll leave you to finish this vs the AI and send it all the excess smileys.

Mongols up.

Monkey was Cracow your richest and most populated city?

Not sure Myth, Chernigov has 13k people and makes me 1500 per turn but I can't recall the Cracow stats and I can't see them now since you took it. Did you make a lot sacking it? It was probably my second biggest if not the biggest.

I knew it and Jazdow would be left en prise if I stayed in siege at Poznan but I wanted to keep that HRE army trapped and take it out when I could build up my forces enough. I finally managed it this turn - huzzah!

And the net tightens around the TO.

Yeah, I got around 10-12k by it, that's really a lot considering how poor I've become. Looting the former Novgorodian towns, now there's a way to make 100k easily.

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Yeah, I got around 10-12k by it, that's really a lot considering how poor I've become. Looting the former Novgorodian towns, now there's a way to make 100k easily.

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100K? Not likely. Getting that, or you being able to sack em all. :tongue:

i'd say 11 or 12 cities, averiging 8 thousand per city should get me there. Now actually sacking them though is going to prove difficult, but one can hope!

Sacking Poznan scored me nearly 15k! Which is officially all the money I now have...

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i'd say 11 or 12 cities, averiging 8 thousand per city should get me there. Now actually sacking them though is going to prove difficult, but one can hope!

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You overestimate me. :P

You'd get 50K at the max.

I've got you right where I want you! *pats cat on lap*

You have the Hochmeister. Pity he was a beastly general. My fault for being a cheapskate and not building that fort. Ruined the whole Northern front for me. That Hochmeister would have been a serious pain for you to take out if you couldn't 3v1 him... I still have some cards to play though, however with such huge produciton and income I doubt I'll be able to turn the tide unless you do some blunders.

Him and King Knud both. :D

IIRC, I 2v1ed him. Prince Charles (high command) and King Knud (The Ownerer) :tongue:

Yeah, that fort would've saved you a world of trouble.

It's just too late to turn the tide. I own all the HRE besides Hamburg. Your army in the north has only a few options, takes Siauluai, I just follow it home, I trust that my army is strong enough. If it goes after Windau, it'll just take a little longer. And you can't open WIndau or Riga with a catapult.

I think that it's just too late, even if I make a massive mistake next turn.

Don't discount the HRE or myself yet is all I can say. When you take all our castles then you can be confident you've won.

If someone gets a chance can you post a screen shot of a recent map, it would help some of us more visual people follow :)

Slysnake...

yes?

Zim, you're up :) Attachment 2855

bumpety bump

Sorry, thought my turn had only been up one day.

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Hmph, captured Kalmar but its port was lost in the sacking. :no:

Big names taken down this turn. Norweigan King Yngwie, or however you spell it can't move.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/142fm2

Gunther is dead, and Maximillian is going to die next turn. Siauluai is under siege, by the way. God that army gave me stupid amounts of casulties, but it was worth it in the end.

Too bad I left Visorslash eat up all of Kiev unmolested. He has too much gold for his own good, and too much production now. But there is still hope! (Also, rooting for the Norwegians!)

While up North things have gone from bad to worse, at least in the south we have utterly crushed the Mongols!

Full stack besieging Torn has been defeated.
Two full stacks and approximately a halfstack of reinforcements (captain lead) near Jazdow have been defeated.

They all can't move next turn. To my knowledge those were the bulk of Monkey's forces. Now comes retribution!

If I had only built that fort around the Hochmeister, things would have gone much better for us, backstabbing and all.

Onward now, to the Mongols.

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Too bad I left Visorslash eat up all of Kiev unmolested. He has too much gold for his own good, and too much production now. But there is still hope! (Also, rooting for the Norwegians!)

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What could you have done? We were still "allies" then. There is always hope. But you're going to have to play perfectly. Already, I am bringing it more men. There is no stopping (as Zim puts it) The Tyranny of Denmark.

Fortunately for me your stacks are still sub-par compared to my own. Regarding the rebel Kiev, I could have made a deal with Thanatos to deny you these settlements instead of us fighting while you ate them up quietly.