As you wish.Quote:
Originally Posted by B_Ray
Vote: Elite Ferret
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As you wish.Quote:
Originally Posted by B_Ray
Vote: Elite Ferret
vote: Elite Ferret
Majority reached on Elite Ferret. He has been lynched.
I was not given ample opportunity to participate.
What is to be my compensation?
~~~
end of day
~~~
Elite Ferret was surprised to see the sudden shift in voting.
He popped the antidote into his mouth, and prepared to press the hidden trigger which would flood the chamber with gas.
The group had reached consensus, however. They believed that it was him who had been tormenting them.
He stepped toward the switch, but was tackled from behind. He reached forward, and his hand was stepped on by another captive.
He struggled mightily, snarling with frustration. He looked around, expecting his love to help him escape, but no such help came.
They had no weapons. They were beating him with bare hands and kicking him with bare feet. It would take a while for him to die.
It was painful, at first. But soon, the wounds he sustained made him feel numb and sore. He could barely move.
Someone slammed their foot down on the back of his neck, snapping it.
He stopped breathing, and blood pooled out of his mouth.
And yet, somehow....
we still enjoyed watching him die/
~~~
broken toys/
chaotix - head smashed in with hammer
townhughthom- legs sawed off on the 'merry-go-round'
autolycus- fell into a burning ring of fire
Jarema- turned into a french fried version of himself
rickinator9- left this world on a sad note
edse- didnt even see it coming
classical_hero / avatar of chaotix- his chest has much in the way of cleavage now
caius- ....................... went smushy
zack- felt the need to spill his guts
Elite Ferret- Tormentor of Toys
begin night five/
you are not finished yet/
now you must find the other/
@Askthepizzaguy
you've stickied this not closed it.
Buh.... what?
Naw, I didn't make it sticky. That was the blood of the Ferret spilling everywhere.
Thread unstuck and closed.
~~~
end of night
~~~
The cell filled with gas. Everyone went to sleep.
In the morning, no one had died.
Did someone forget to take their antidote?
~~~
broken toys/
chaotix - head smashed in with hammer
townhughthom- legs sawed off on the 'merry-go-round'
autolycus- fell into a burning ring of fire
Jarema- turned into a french fried version of himself
rickinator9- left this world on a sad note
edse- didnt even see it coming
classical_hero / avatar of chaotix- his chest has much in the way of cleavage now
caius- ....................... went smushy
zack- felt the need to spill his guts
Elite Ferret- Tormentor of Toys
begin day six/
solve the crime/
W00t!! We got one scum :)
Wow, we stomped out another bad guy and somehow avoided a night kill. Nice!
Personally, I figured I'd be last night's victim since I more-or-less led the bandwagon on the late Ferret. If somebody out there protected me, thanks!
Vote: robbiecon for lurking, voting for 3 townies, and waiting until after Caius lynch was sealed to join the bandwagon. He may just not be paying the game much attention, but he's done a good job of not helping whilst staying well under the radar.
Actually you are right. He is not paying attention to his games ATM, but he might be the final scum (suppose C_H is a SK-ish role and EF and robbiecon are ordinary mafia) especially due to the lack of kill.
So vote: robbiecon
At worst we lynch an inactive townie.
I'll go along for now. vote: Robbiecon
The posts leading up to that lynch cleared quite a few people in my eyes. Diana, and Curio amongst others, but right now DF and B_Ray are playing solid aggressive town. Maybe the majority required to lynch rule (not to mention the threat of punishment if unachieved) encourages that, but whatever - I'm happy to get behind you guys right now whatever you suggest.
vote: robbiecon
I'd suppose Makrell is probably town too. On my list of suspects, the silence of Visorslash and the belligerence of MajorRDump both worry me. Seon hasn't said much so I don't know. Montmorency has been playing 3rdparty/SK since the word go and is probably not scum, but probably should be lynched because mafia theory states that he is not entitled to survive a game in any role.
Vote: robbiecon
those fine theories might aamont to quite a lot
You know what to do Andres.
Aha! Very funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elite Ferret
Andres seems reasonably townie to me, he's made alot more posts than most, after suspecting me for a bit along with Elite Ferret, he stated that he no longer thought I was scum, but then proceeded to vote me again. Other than that, I don't think he's put a foot wrong really.
It's almost as if he's too townie, isn't it...
How did he respond when you suggested that you bus him in this manner then?
He said "What are you talking about? I'm a townie... Are you even allowed to PM me? I don't think you should be seeing as you are dead."
I took that as a go ahead.
FoS: Elite Ferret: I think you are scumQuote:
Originally Posted by Elite Ferret
I'm convinced. Burn his body.
vote_burn: Elite Ferret
It would be a bad idea to lynch Classical Hero.
He can't be lynched anyway.
Vote: Classical Hero
Okay, I agree with that choice, Vote: Robbiecon.
Majority nearly reached on robbiecon.
That was fast!
Vote: Visorslash
...because untested unanimity is usually unwise...
Yeah, this bandwagon got started a little too strongly, I think. It's good we're putting Chaotix out of business, but we do need some discussion to work with later on. But I suppose that will naturally come as the game gets closer to the end.
In the meantime, I'm wondering why there wasn't a kill last night. Only two reasons I can see: the guilty party didn't send in valid orders, or someone's role prevented a murder. If anybody protected or role-blocked anyone last night, that's relevant info. If anybody out there did something along those lines last night and you trust me, feel free to PM me about it. I'm not going to make it public info just yet, but I wouldn't recommend keeping it to yourself for too long, in case you wind up a victim as some point and can no longer share what you know with anyone.
Anybody want to take a guess at the number of guilty parties in this game? Based on the write-ups, I think it's safe to say that Elite Ferret had at least one partner, while Classical Hero was most likely a solo party. Clearly he had some powers/abilities at his disposal, but they should be irrelevant now. Does two mafia (our captors, in the context of the game) and one chaotic neutral party sound like enough non-townies for a game with 23 players? ATPG has certainly hinted that that's the case, but it seems too straight-forward for such a twisted premise.
How about untested equanimity?Quote:
...because untested unanimity is usually unwise...
:wink:
Very well. Vote: robbiecon.
Round ended. Writeup in progress.
Me, belligerent?
Is vote: Dark Feather belligerent?
I am nothing if not consistent. I am a type A townie. Scumdar lock early. Just watching the show.
damn
~~~
end of day
~~~
it is just not the same without you my love/
i cannot bring myself to commit the act/
i enjoy watching you do it/
but I will always be the voyeur/
the toys were able to break us/
and so many of our fantasies will no longer come true/
we had so many elaborate deaths planned for them/
and if i had your strength they would suffer those deaths/
and we would shatter those toys one by one/
still they would suspect nothing/
for we made the puzzle too difficult to solve/
i have to go now my love/
though i could fight onward/
it would be meaningless without you/
goodbye my love.
Askthepizzaguy stood up from where he was sitting in the corner. His quiet sobbing didn't look out of place. But somehow, nobody even noticed he was there, even when he had participated in their discussions.
Perhaps they didn't want to see him there. But all the clues had been hidden away, in the rules which were written for all to see.
When he forced the majority on Elite Ferret, he was certain they would notice him then. His death would have inspired his love to kill them even more viciously. And slaughter them even faster. And so, his vote had a purpose.
But his love was too cunning, even for him. He didn't even know that Elite Ferret was the one he admired from afar. He always wore that hood, and kept his face covered.
And so, faced with the inevitability of being trapped in the cage with his Toys, with nothing to eat, and no way of secretly killing them off, he decided that the game was over.
The Toys had won. And they would be free to escape from the Playground.
He knew what he was doing. When he voted to put robbiecon to death, it was clear that he was crying over the loss of Elite Ferret, not because he was helplessly trapped alongside them.
Even as he approached robbiecon, he knew he would be unable to do the deed personally. He could never summon the courage.
He thought about tormenting them further.
But it wouldn't be the same without his love.
He would not enjoy their deaths. They would be far less inspired. Mere beatings and strangulation.
They would not be art.
And without his Muse, they would never be truly inspired.
"though i could torment you further/
it is clear that you have broken us/
it was my hope that we could break you/
but you are too strong-willed/
you are free to go."
~~~
broken toys/
chaotix - head smashed in with hammer
townhughthom- legs sawed off on the 'merry-go-round'
autolycus- fell into a burning ring of fire
Jarema- turned into a french fried version of himself
rickinator9- left this world on a sad note
edse- didnt even see it coming
classical_hero / avatar of chaotix- his chest has much in the way of cleavage now
caius- ....................... went smushy
zack- felt the need to spill his guts
Elite Ferret- Tormentor of Toys
Askthepizzaguy- Keeper of Toys
congratulations
Postgame commentary
askthepizzaguy is a character which has been known to insert himself into his own stories from time to time.
however/ being a balanced game designer/ such an act is always problematic.
it needs to be fair to the other players.
in each instance of such a twist/ the game was winnable without voting for him.
in the golden rule/ you win by being the last one standing/ or no lynch no murdering/
and realizing that the solution is to treat others as you would wish to be treated/
as was the titular hint.
in the snatcher/ you could win by eliminating the player currently inhabited by askthepizzaguy.
but voting for askthepizzaguy would do nothing.
for askthepizzaguy to be an actual player/ it would have to be a secret.
which is why i posted "in" in bold/ after i announced that this is how you announce that you are playing.
the lack of player list and official tallies made it possible to hide/
but there would have to be some restrictions/
for one/ i cannot actually be the game host/ which means i needed chaotix to host the game/
i designed it but gave the design to him so the other roles would be randomized/
and requested that he add a role to the game that i did not know about/
which was not a detective or killing role for balance reasons/
therefore the game setup would be a mystery to me/
for my partner/ they would not fear investigation or murder/ but could only murder once per night/
unless i had been lynched/
then they could murder twice per night/
which would help buff the role which otherwise has little chance of surviving the game.
for myself/
i cannot know the identity of my partner/
i cannot communicate with my partner/
i cannot murder/
all i can do is act as a voting partner/
and i must also for fairness reasons make it clear that i am playing before 'lynch or lose' by voting unprovoked.
further/ i must vote for anyone who votes for me
and i put hints in the rules.
thus the game is solvable and fair to all.
i believe you would have solved it eventually but it would take a long time/
and if you did not solve it/ such a victory would be hollow/
and not much fun for either myself or my fellow players.
i gambled that i could manipulate you into lynching me first which would have been an awesome twist/
and given my partner new life/
but he was dead before i could set those events in motion/
so i played poorly and you played well/
rather than subject you to what would probably be more than a month of chasing ghosts/
i concede/ with my partner's consent.
i am not afraid to lose this game/ i just feel i didn't design it that well.
i hope you still had fun.
I WILL MAKE YOU SUFFER YOU SOME OTHER TIME.... MWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA
Start with the rules, notice how I bolded "in" a second time, and re-read the game with the knowledge you have now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
I bet that you'll find some enjoyment in picking up on my hints.
A subtler way, indeed...
Vote : MRD
:( not a fan of the twist, but other than that good game indeed
Ugh, there was another page...
I suspected there would be something like that, honestly. The "think outside of the box thing" had been bothering me for a while and I wondered if we didn't have to lynch the host in order to win the game.
I had fun and I really appreciated the majority vote in combination with Chaotix putting pressure on the players when it took too long. I think that part of your concept could be useful in future games.
Yay, we won!
Thanks for hosting Chaotix and ATPG. I still wonder what would have happened if we got to the latter rounds where bandwaggoning would be more devastating.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Thanks to ATPG for the concept and Chaotix for hosting. I really enjoyed it. :bow:
While I appreciate this, part of me is disappointed that we weren't allowed the time to solve the mystery and exact a long and lingering revenge. I had some nagging suspicions that you were involved, but not enough at this stage to act on them. Perhaps you were just too subtle...Quote:
rather than subject you to what would probably be more than a month of chasing ghosts...
And finally, just something that is bothering me. Andres: in what way am I 'always so suspicious'? I am genuinely confused...
Thanks for playing, all.
I had fun scaring you with my red text.
I'll post the role PMs soon.
Aw, I'm sad to see it end so soon, especially since ICFFoF is also nearing completion, but it was very fun while it lasted. I liked the setting and the sense of urgency created by the rules. I don't personally care for the gory, graphic death scenes, but I appreciated the serious tone they set. Much like watching Saw the first time, I figured there was an important twist coming, but I don't think I would have ever figured it out. While I first played mafia here at the .Org years ago, I haven't been very active since then, and up until now I hadn't participated in any games with "tricky" elements like voting for the host. But I'm starting to learn how cleverly you guys think.
:bow:
Thanks for hosting, ATPG! Sorry it didn't go quite as intended, but I suppose that's a necessary risk with such an elaborate design. Chaotix was a real wildcard, gotta give him credit for playing his part well (and of course for helping host).
Special role PMs:
Chaotix:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Elite Ferret
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
classical_hero
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Askthepizzaguy
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
So, a game with one SK, another SK, one of the SK's unknown partner, and… hey, this was an interesting setup. It's sitll a bit creepy that you can write those things out of your arse just like that, Pizzamandudeboy.
classical_hero was not a Serial Killer.
He was a town-aligned power role.
Additionally, a mechanic unknown to all but myself - classical_hero was not the only player able to vote after death.
In fact - ALL players had this power. Even people who were not in the game could drop in spontaneously and make a valid vote. I was the only user on this site not allowed to vote in this game.
This was payback for ATPG's ability to influence the vote without other people knowing he was playing - in fact, everybody was a player, and if they figured it out via induction, they could turn his trick back on him.
I mentioned something similar that in one of threads about an idea I would like to see. Awesome to see someone actually doing something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaotix
Thanks for the game Pizzaguy and Chaotix. I didn't think majority would be reached so early in this day phase, not that it mattered in the end.
Thanks Chaotix for hosting, and Pizza for messing again with our minds. Interesting concept. To bad it ended so soon, I was just starting to get into it. :bow:
I believe I joined mafia in the first place because I wanted to write elaborate death scenes involving characters you'd identify with.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
From the very first Simpsons game to the murder manor games to this one- if you're going to die in a mafia game, I prefer it to be more memorable than:
El Barto was found dead in the morning.
Apologies to those who don't like gory writeups. I tend to stay away from the genuinely disturbing, but I feel at least once a year, I need to do a Murder Manor or a Psycho Mafia or a Dinner Party where the writeups are dead serious and not laugh out loud funny. The harsh, dangerous tone helps set the mood.
Thanks to all for playing- sorry I chose to end it early, those of you who wanted to fight on: There are other game hosts waiting and unfortunately due to the number of people left and how far away you were from guessing me, it would have taken too long for the payoff.
You did well, there was no way I'd survive to the final round and vote you guys dead. As such, tipping the king over is the choice I made not just for myself but those waiting to host a game.
So does that mean a majority could have been reached without anyone actually in the game posting?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaotix
Certainly some interesting mechanics here, which I'd like to see used in future games. Thanks for hosting guys.
The torture of the toys has come to an end, for now.
My head melted. At least it could have done, quite explicitly in the text, if the game had carried on. Thanks for hosting Pizzaguy. I'll try to be more savvy in the next one.
That's correct - the "majority" was based on the number of living players in the list, but could be caused by anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferret
Although I deemed the actual chances of anybody but classical_hero making use of this ability pretty low.
And the chances of people not even in the game, even lower.
There's a small hint in classical's role PM, but I didn't tell him - this was more of a secret ability to be unlocked if the town chanced upon it by a random dead townie voting as a joke and then causing a lynch with it.
I'm like tom riddle, the mere memory of me caused askthepizzaguy to lose his mind. :p
Subtlety is not a thing I understand all that well. Interesting concept. Shame I used the Fire power too early.
Oh, that ship sailed a loooooong time ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by robbiecon
My first survival ever, and no thanks to myself. Silence is golden
it was... interesting setup.
I enjoyed it when I was alive
In my game it was a stylistic choice -humility and manhood over everything else, if you get my meaning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Gory writeups are fun! Not the haha kind of fun, mor elike the hoho kind of fun, but there's no accounting for my eclectic tastes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Noble choice from you, my good host! Now onwards to the next game!
All aboard the crazy traaaaiiinnn!Quote:
Originally Posted by AskthepizzaguyOh, that ship sailed a loooooong time ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by robbiecon
You're always nice, friendly, helpful and usually give plenty of explanation and analysis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaius Scribonius Curio
So I, who am scummy as a townie, even as a GM, would slip completely under your radar? Good.
We really couldn't have done it without me. Congratulations, Zack. You done did a good job.
(i.e. I'm pretty sure I did absolutely nothing helpful to my team)