04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread

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Originally Posted by Fable

Oh and finally in a game where egix is pillaging so that's cool.

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Have we played before though? MU Anni maybe?
In which case I find this read kinda surprising ngl.

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Originally Posted by Insaner

Csargo's post is absolutely glorious.

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:flowers:

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Originally Posted by ladd

alrighty, here is the division of the jobs

I expect:

gh to give us a locked in logic read

dya and fable to give us a locked in read on each other

zack to give us a lock choxorn read

me (while I try to dodge being lunched) and empoof will take care of the trolling and the cat herding

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Originally Posted by Zack Brannigan

I wouldn't call it locked in or anything

He is mildly suspicious. I'd rather kill barto

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Originally Posted by ladd

el barto

I honestly have no real preference

I don't think any MUer has been particularly bad except maybe pzeld(capage)

will have betetr read on them (the MUers) d2 though

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Zack is giving ladd a mislynch like

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Originally Posted by Egix

Have we played before though? MU Anni maybe?
In which case I find this read kinda surprising ngl.

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fable just played in throne mash...you were taichi there, weren't you?

holy fucking shit that other game is finally over

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Originally Posted by Csargo

I'm still reading through the thread, I've had a busy few days, but my impressions so far:

Zack's opening was strong, but that's to be expected, Zack's a strong player. I'm hesitant to prematurely say he's town, but everything points in that direction. He spews sunshine and rainbows.

Empoof seems in a similar vein to Zack, nothing gives me pause about their play so far. Though I'm not familiar with Empoof's play in general, but from my perspective it's all been good so far.

I'm okay with merl1n, Insaner, and Logic overall. I don't particularly think Insaner's "I'm townier, answer my question." was productive, but to each their own. Other than that I haven't read anything from Insaner that would make me think negatively. merl1n just seems pure and engaged, it's refreshing, nothing negative to say about any of their contributions honestly. Logic's opening was meh, but his recent postings were pretty good I thought, and that makes me think he's town.

I agree with Zack's meta read of Barto's behavior, generally I'd expect Barto to vote Insaner there. It probably doesn't mean much, but it seemed cautious to me, which is unexpected from Barto. I might be reading too much into it though.

GH's opening bothered me initially, a bit generic maybe? or just fell flat with me I'm not sure exactly how to describe it. Plus his interaction with Zack about Insaner seemed odd to me. I generally agree with what he posted this morning, so I'm a bit torn overall about how to feel.

Monty is an enigma. I'm not sure how to feel about him currently.

I don't have much else, but I'll continue reading.

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Thanks, that's better.

Tbh I'm probably not gonna end up having reads on Hank or Empoof until Day 2. In my mind they are inextricable from their stellar scum performances in the Season 5 finale.

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Originally Posted by dyachei

holy fucking shit that other game is finally over

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oh snap lemme check that rq

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Originally Posted by Egix

Thanks, that's better.

Tbh I'm probably not gonna end up having reads on Hank or Empoof until Day 2. In my mind they are inextricable from their stellar scum performances in the Season 5 finale.

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My reads on people who I don't have much or any experience playing with are extremely tentative. I'm not terribly confident nor is my track record terribly good in such cases. I have trouble reading generally in mafia games, so there's that. What I'm trying to say is I'm bad :sweatdrop:

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Originally Posted by Insaner

Capage just feels... very different from the last game I played with him where we were both villagers. Like he isn't providing reads in order to expose the self evident truth of everyone's alignment here but rather just to look like he's contributing. There is little specificity behind his reads and the ones that do have an explanation aren't that hot either.

As for ladd, I just don't get the feeling that we are on the same team here. Like he is working against people I think are likely villa and is giving my wolf reads an easy pass. His reasons for his reads don't impress me either.

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would you say capage's the kind of person who makes equivalently off the wall reads as any alignment?

hm

lot more willing to excuse ladd based on those reasons, given the size of the game and how we've just started

but curious to see how that evolves over time

appreciate the answer, genuinely :)

trying to decide if dya as either alignment would have felt a need to engage more heavily than she has so far

leaning towards no but slightly more no as w than v

*slightly less no

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Originally Posted by dyachei

fable just played in throne mash...you were taichi there, weren't you?

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I don't remember Fable being in TM, huh
And yes, Taichi = me

They made only 22 posts that game, no wonder

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

trying to decide if dya as either alignment would have felt a need to engage more heavily than she has so far

leaning towards no but slightly more no as w than v

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think this is pretty nai this time in particular

both her and gh were in a fairly intense f3 that just ended

Dya giving me a read after only one round of posting is....certainly a departure from the last few games we've played dunno how I feel about that.

I like csargo so I'm ready for them to flip wolf.

There are so many crab memes but no lobster memes. A journey for answers continues....

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Originally Posted by Fable

Dya giving me a read after only one round of posting is....certainly a departure from the last few games we've played dunno how I feel about that.

I like csargo so I'm ready for them to flip wolf.

There are so many crab memes but no lobster memes. A journey for answers continues....

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you don't have to like it

Well insaner is more townie but I don't feel like trusting their reads right now.

Insaner, I want you to very slowly over the course of a either a larger post or a few larger explanation posts explain how you saw barto as town as early as you did (this is cuth's question on who do you think spewed barto as town, which I believe the answer is inside of GH/ladd and that's fine I just want you to actually show it preferably with quotes), I'd like you to stop nitpicking cuth as you're flipflopping harder than my local diner when they make pancakes which is lowering your credibility for me to take you seriously, and I'd like you to repost barto's larger post or a series of posts explaining what inside them you thought was townie.

They're in contention today, it's someone who's name is going to come up. If you're going to hard defend them at least give me that much instead of a bunch of essentially gut town reads on them. If you had a larger explanation that I missed, quote it.

My back still hurts today and I'm pretty pissed about that and have to make a phone call about money in about 30 minutes.

I'm trying to remember if GH thinks I'm an easy read or not. I know he respects my wolf game but I don't think that stops him from reading me at all. Otherwise I agree with his summary post today and he's not the type of player that's going to get "tripped up" by insaner doing insaner things.

I'll be in in about an hour or so, depending.

There's a very real part of me that wants to vote whoever Fable wants and just see what happens because I think it's funny

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Originally Posted by dyachei

you don't have to like it

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I want to like it but it feels very unlike you I guess. I'm used to waiting until d3-d4 for that read. :p

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Originally Posted by Fable

I want to like it but it feels very unlike you I guess. I'm used to waiting until d3-d4 for that read. :p

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I don't know when I normally read you but you fucking around like you have already with some reads thrown in looks good enough for d1

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Originally Posted by Empoof

There's a very real part of me that wants to vote whoever Fable wants and just see what happens because I think it's funny

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This was the best lobster meme I could find.

I'm not impressed.

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Originally Posted by Zack Brannigan

Have people suspecting Ladd this much every played with him before

This is pretty par for the course for how he'd begin a game as villa in my experience

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Yes, in both MU Anni and Throne game

In the former of those, he was on my scum team so I didn't have to read him ;), but I do think he played very well. He was one of the team captains, I guess you could say.

And in Throne, he was the Mad King (leader of one of the evil factions), I was a neutral, and I TRed him for most of the game.

So that considered, if he's scum this game, he's probably not taking it as seriously cos this isn't a mash game? Or cos he's just a goon?? Idk really.

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Originally Posted by Egix

Yes, in both MU Anni and Throne game

In the former of those, he was on my scum team so I didn't have to read him ;), but I do think he played very well. He was one of the team captains, I guess you could say.

And in Throne, he was the Mad King (leader of one of the evil factions), I was a neutral, and I TRed him for most of the game.

So that considered, if he's scum this game, he's probably not taking it as seriously cos this isn't a mash game? Or cos he's just a goon?? Idk really.

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ftr I take non mashes wolf game wayyyy more seriously than mash wolf games

but I have randed wolf in a non mash only 1.5 times in the last couple of years so I think only dya has actually seen me wolf in standard games here and zack a little bit

I've seen ladd wolf twice at least.

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Originally Posted by Insaner

I've seen ladd wolf twice at least.

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Though I do not remember any of it other than he was really good.

I haven't randed wolf in a non mash since wednesday

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Originally Posted by ladd

think this is pretty nai this time in particular

both her and gh were in a fairly intense f3 that just ended

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Confirming this.

Taking a few hours off to get my head straight and then I'll dive in here.

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Originally Posted by Insaner

I've seen ladd wolf twice at least.

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My experience when he is a villager is he starts the game slow and gets a lot of heat for it, almost every time without fail.* He takes time to build up to his full power.

The only time I recall seeing him wolf was in a team game where we not in the thread together on the same day, and my team may have actually already been dead by the time he was in the thread, don't remember exactly. He was very good tonally, and I distinctly remember having trouble reconciling how he was so villagy but making such wolfy pushes. The answer, of course, was because he was a wolf pushing his agenda. When we later played as v/v in a light game, our reads and thoughts on the game were almost impossibly similar. That said, he's keenly aware of that and so I don't put much stock into him agreeing a lot with me so far in this game, especially when it's mostly bland agreement with me after the fact.

All that said, I don't think he is super villagy or anything but he's definitely not wolfy either imo and killing him day one would be a mistake because he's an extremely good villager that people often misread on day one.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Confirming this.

Taking a few hours off to get my head straight and then I'll dive in here.

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Taking day one off and waiting to dive in until I'll be gone :stare:

you wily dog!

why do people townread egix?

feel like I've seen that a few times with almost no suspicion on him and I don't get it

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Originally Posted by ladd

ftr I take non mashes wolf game wayyyy more seriously than mash wolf games

but I have randed wolf in a non mash only 1.5 times in the last couple of years so I think only dya has actually seen me wolf in standard games here and zack a little bit

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- Well obviously I'm not gonna find that easy to believe but... okay...

- I presume the point-five is from when you subbed into that one Champs practice game. What was the other one?

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Originally Posted by Egix

- Well obviously I'm not gonna find that easy to believe but... okay...

- I presume the point-five is from when you subbed into that one Champs practice game. What was the other one?

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that was the 1

the .5 was a team game from some time ago on mu

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Originally Posted by Zack Brannigan

why do people townread egix?

feel like I've seen that a few times with almost no suspicion on him and I don't get it

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yeah coincidentally I agree and actually almost posted soemthing similar a while ago before being distracted by something (probably insaner)

not that I think they are wolfy but both their "push" on me and monty are pretty weak

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Originally Posted by Zack Brannigan

why do people townread egix?

feel like I've seen that a few times with almost no suspicion on him and I don't get it

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Yyyeah it's pretty obvious to me atp that you don't know how to read me

It's okay, you'll learn one day.

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Originally Posted by ladd

don't really feel like digging into the thread rn but I'll be around to real time some while doing other stuff. I do intend to be in the thread and try hard for the last 2 hours of the day to try and lunch a wolf.

the following people are various degrees of villagery:

zack
insaner
me
empoof
gh
newyin

also feel ~fine about logic/dya despite them not posting much

haven't really put much depth of thought into these reads but they should be mostly fine

zack is lack clear

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i don't think i like ladd putting himself in the middle of a list of people that have been "villagery". i've included myself when talking about people i think are good before but it's always either at the start or the end, being in the middle feels artificial instead of natural

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Originally Posted by Zack Brannigan

My experience when he is a villager is he starts the game slow and gets a lot of heat for it, almost every time without fail.* He takes time to build up to his full power.

The only time I recall seeing him wolf was in a team game where we not in the thread together on the same day, and my team may have actually already been dead by the time he was in the thread, don't remember exactly. He was very good tonally, and I distinctly remember having trouble reconciling how he was so villagy but making such wolfy pushes. The answer, of course, was because he was a wolf pushing his agenda. When we later played as v/v in a light game, our reads and thoughts on the game were almost impossibly similar. That said, he's keenly aware of that and so I don't put much stock into him agreeing a lot with me so far in this game, especially when it's mostly bland agreement with me after the fact.

All that said, I don't think he is super villagy or anything but he's definitely not wolfy either imo and killing him day one would be a mistake because he's an extremely good villager that people often misread on day one.

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That's pretty much why I'm wolfreading him. I don't think he has a villagery agenda. But I get why you would disagree given your reads this game.

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Originally Posted by Egix

Yyyeah it's pretty obvious to me atp that you don't know how to read me

It's okay, you'll learn one day.

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I mean I've never played with you and don't know who you are, why would I "know" lol

Morning, Poof. I am not ignoring you - it's just gonna take me some time to get my thoughts in order. I was actually waiting for you to show up. Lettuce work together and lynch a woof today.

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Originally Posted by ladd

yeah coincidentally I agree and actually almost posted soemthing similar a while ago before being distracted by something (probably insaner)

not that I think they are wolfy but both their "push" on me and monty are pretty weak

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I'm kinda internally debating with myself whether lynching you d1 is a good move or not

As for Mont, I can't really interact with him further until he comes back, which I don't think he has done yet

trying to catch up a little in my 30 minutes free, u ppl talk a lot

i think logic is probably good. i liked his post about ladd, found myself agreeing with almost all of it and thought it had some conviction to it

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Originally Posted by Insaner

That's pretty much why I'm wolfreading him. I don't think he has a villagery agenda. But I get why you would disagree given your reads this game.

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again, I already asked

explain where is my wolfy agenda

I have barely an agenda

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Originally Posted by Zack Brannigan

I mean I've never played with you and don't know who you are, why would I "know" lol

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I wasn't sure if you had ever seen me play.

It's all right tho, I didn't really mean to come off that aggressively there

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Originally Posted by Insaner

Morning, Poof. I am not ignoring you - it's just gonna take me some time to get my thoughts in order. I was actually waiting for you to show up. Lettuce work together and lynch a woof today.

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Or is it not morning for you idek

Anyway, gonna start reading back and working on my reply now.

i'm finding myself agreeing with whatever post is the last one i read, and then changing my opinion when i read another post that has an almost contradictory opinion. this has never been a problem irl games because people have pretty distinct voices but when i'm just reading words i'm having trouble figuring out if someone is bad or good and instead it's turning into a matter of me agreeing or not agreeing, and most of the time i'm just agreeing if they sound reasonable

to u ppl who play more forum games how do you train yourself out of this?

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Originally Posted by merl1n

i'm finding myself agreeing with whatever post is the last one i read, and then changing my opinion when i read another post that has an almost contradictory opinion. this has never been a problem irl games because people have pretty distinct voices but when i'm just reading words i'm having trouble figuring out if someone is bad or good and instead it's turning into a matter of me agreeing or not agreeing, and most of the time i'm just agreeing if they sound reasonable

to u ppl who play more forum games how do you train yourself out of this?

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I generally feel trusting the people whose names start with la and end in dd is the best strategy in forum mafia

but for real, that's something that happens to me d1 too some

just gotta lock in some stuff (for example I have decided zack is a villager and am basing my play today around that for a good part) and then when flips start to come the game becomes way easier

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Originally Posted by ladd

I generally feel trusting the people whose names start with la and end in dd is the best strategy in forum mafia

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well since i'm trying to avoid trusting other people and form my own opinions, that means removing people whose names start with l and end in dd from the game is probably the most beneficial course of action

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Originally Posted by merl1n

i'm finding myself agreeing with whatever post is the last one i read, and then changing my opinion when i read another post that has an almost contradictory opinion. this has never been a problem irl games because people have pretty distinct voices but when i'm just reading words i'm having trouble figuring out if someone is bad or good and instead it's turning into a matter of me agreeing or not agreeing, and most of the time i'm just agreeing if they sound reasonable

to u ppl who play more forum games how do you train yourself out of this?

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Hmmm

I actually started on forum so I don't really recall ever experiencing this problem

I guess you'll just overcome it with experience.

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Originally Posted by ladd

but for real, that's something that happens to me d1 too some

just gotta lock in some stuff (for example I have decided zack is a villager and am basing my play today around that for a good part) and then when flips start to come the game becomes way easier

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the utter confidence in me being a villager feels unearned

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Originally Posted by Zack Brannigan

the utter confidence in me being a villager feels unearned

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you are too modest

there has been a lot of skimming, which i'll try and rectify when i have more free time but i'm mostly caught up

how crazy does the end of day get on a forum here? is the lynch very likely to be between the two people with the most votes and i should concentrate effort there or could it be somewhere else at random yet?

I mean I think you could still be a wolf in theory and you are good enough to fool me on d1

but your posts are villagery, you are pushing what I think is a villagery agenda, you are hitting all the notes I expect you to hit as a villager including us agreeing on a lot and fmpov it happened before I even posted

so I am just gonna call you a villager

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Originally Posted by merl1n

how crazy does the end of day get on a forum here? is the lynch very likely to be between the two people with the most votes and i should concentrate effort there or could it be somewhere else at random yet?

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there is a thing called cfd where someone with 0 or little votes, gets suddenly voted at the end

generally it can get pretty crazy d1 but it depends on the game

also since I am at it, what I like about Empoof is that he is not really trying to be villagery imo

I get it's a veery generic reasons but reading his posts I just think he is posting to solve the game and not be villa read

I am also perfectly aware that I am probably villa reading at least one wolf given how undeveloped my reads are but Idrc

let's just try to lunch a wolf today

I am still open to suggestions and if people have good cases, hmu with them

This feels like a cfd game and player list so I'd expect it

ladd talk to me about newyin, not really someone I have on my radar.

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Originally Posted by Newyn

Hi,

Last time I played here I got every single read wrong so you should probably not listen to anything I say unless it helps you push your agenda.

Also, day 1 is clearly absolutely useless so can I get a free pass for today?

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thought this looked honest, poof

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Originally Posted by Newyn

Cuth is town here.

People giving merlin a free pass, what if he's some secret alt that's not actually new? Would you still town read them then?

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and I feel the perspective or this post was more reflective than just trying to look paranoid for the sake of it and/or trying to shade another villa

+ a secret reason

not an home run but wouldn't lunch today

though now that I re read his ISO, the dissonance between having every read wrong last game and the confidence in his reads this game is a bit weird

also I may actually like fable more than dya

maybe

@Fable can you explain your wolf read on me?

and @ everyone voting me: please unvote me, I am an incredibly dumb vote and you are limiting my EoD choices by keeping me as a wagon + you are voting a villager

also I am fragile and if I get wagoned for too long I start to get tilted, I play worse, I start getting less pleasant and no one wants that

thanks in advance

I knew I was gonna end up getting too engaged in this game once I was gonna start having time to post

rip plans of low efforting this, the burn out is gonna come for me

back in a bit

@ me if you need something

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Originally Posted by ladd

also I may actually like fable more than dya

maybe

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I do, personally.

Vote Choxorn

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Originally Posted by Empoof

I do, personally.

Vote Choxorn

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you are probably right

zack
empoof
ladd
fable

who else?

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Originally Posted by ladd

you are probably right

zack
empoof
ladd
fable

who else?

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take out ladd and put in merl1n

There's a lot of ~middling people that I'm choosing to slightly not comment on.

but I think Zack/empoof/merl1n is rock solid and we can deal with not lynching in fable/cuth/insaner

and people like ladd can agree and put their name inside there :coffeenews:

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Originally Posted by Empoof

take out ladd and put in merl1n

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motion rejected

we can put in merl1n though, I liked his post about changing his opinion with the lat poster, seems hard to fake as a wolf

zack
empoof
ladd
fable
merl1in

you got anyone else you are confident in?

merl1n is legitimately my absolute top town and anyone who has decided that we're using his "newness" as a crutch either hasn't read merl1n's posts or is a wolf.

Insaner, Hydra 2 probably has been my best town performance this year. Logic being the other head helped a lot too. Read Cupcake Wars, I got mislynched there d1. Willage decided to follow FTF, who was changing my posts in his quotes and tunnelled me in a super ridiculous fashion...The slot ended up flipping town too, but that's not really important here. I'm talking about to show that my meta differs slightly in every game and on different sites, It differs more. I guess gifs make me more townread in general.
You had other reasons for voting me, hopefully I get around to responding to these latter.

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Originally Posted by dyachei

low key liking fable right now but I never lock in a read on him early. His wolf game is way too respectable for that. So he's light village for now

there's just a right amount of fucking around while making reads. We'll see what happens as time goes on.

pzelda - talk to me about the zack read some more? I feel like him playing around is more indicative of a village game than his wolf game so I want to understand why you find it wolfy

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Tbqh I don't know Zack's wolf game. Playing around and people townreading him for it made me suspicious at first. But I think I managed to find the towness later in his response to Bart and through his conversation with me.
Does this mean you townread him as well?

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Originally Posted by ladd

just for some context since nested quotes don't seem to be a thing or I am not sure how to make them a thing anyway: this was me asking p about why he read monty wall thrice but didn't read cuth's

@pzelda

heyo, can you explain a bit more this post?

like you read empoof posts and he said something about monty that made you went back to re read his walls? I didn't really see empoof talk about monty much

also did you read cuth wall or not? that wall was very big so I feel you'd remember if you actually read it

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Yeah, the first longer post from poof. It had about five clear reads. It was the first thing in the game I found possible to break apart to find some alignment (looking back at it, I should have townleaned poof for making this first too). I think that my opinion on Cuth has been updated at least twice since. I mostly like him now and I even sheep his fable read.

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Originally Posted by Fable

Dya giving me a read after only one round of posting is....certainly a departure from the last few games we've played dunno how I feel about that.

I like csargo so I'm ready for them to flip wolf.

There are so many crab memes but no lobster memes. A journey for answers continues....

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There's a subtlety in Fable's posts I really like. Also, basically agree with Cuth's post (can't bother to search for it rn).
Dya making a read this early should be a good look for her, but the presence was too low to call it locked.

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Originally Posted by ladd

also I may actually like fable more than dya

maybe

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How about ladd?

If activity reads are a thing, he's started doing a lot to get in his active town range. He's def posting more than Dya.

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Originally Posted by Empoof

Well insaner is more townie but I don't feel like trusting their reads right now.

Insaner, I want you to very slowly over the course of a either a larger post or a few larger explanation posts explain how you saw barto as town as early as you did (this is cuth's question on who do you think spewed barto as town, which I believe the answer is inside of GH/ladd and that's fine I just want you to actually show it preferably with quotes), I'd like you to stop nitpicking cuth as you're flipflopping harder than my local diner when they make pancakes which is lowering your credibility for me to take you seriously, and I'd like you to repost barto's larger post or a series of posts explaining what inside them you thought was townie.

They're in contention today, it's someone who's name is going to come up. If you're going to hard defend them at least give me that much instead of a bunch of essentially gut town reads on them. If you had a larger explanation that I missed, quote it.

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You are correct here - when I was talking about Barto being spewed by wolfy people pushing him, ladd and GH are the people I had in mind. And also Cuth: who didn't actually Barto, but he didn't not push him either as he included him in his possible wolf list. But mainly I was talking about ladd and GH.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Barto defense is interesting because "being busier in another game" (which I don't dispute) doesn't stop him from making a funny vote as opposed to talking about his suspicion.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Barto claims being busy/distracted as a reason why he didn't just drop a vote on you for saying you were going to phonepost (him shading people for that here is NAI; long story)

If we accept this explanation at face value, then think about which takes longer: dropping a simple vote, or posting what he posted instead in response?

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Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

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Originally Posted by ladd

vote: el barto

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Originally Posted by ladd

zack n1 kill subbed

teammate el barto bussed

shaded empoof while weirdly defending my ither wolfmate gh

checklist of stuff to do is all done

I'll see you in 10 hours or so but if you need something @ me

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Originally Posted by ladd

wpuldnt really say I am that convinced

just think he was tge wolfiest early on

I agree with your read there and his early phone post just looked like a read wolves know they are making on a villa (insaner) so hold themselves back and put it out there more as information than actually something they wanna push

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Originally Posted by ladd

also just to clarify - I had the barto read before I read your posts on him, zack

you calling him out as well was one of the thing that made me think you are villagery

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I saw someone point out that those 2 weren't even the main pushers on El Barto - he was mostly pushed by Zack and you also agreed with it, and I since the two of you are my top villager reads, someone, maybe even more than 1 person, had argued that my point about Barto being spewed is moot since the people I think are wolfy that scum read Barto have actually barely pushed him. But to me, ladd's and GH stances on Barto look exactly like how wolves treat consensus scum read villagers - call them wolfy and then sit back while another villager (Zack) does all the dirty work of convincing others to vote them.


Barto's big post and my comment on it:

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Originally Posted by El Barto

OK, a few thoughts from a Barto that really needs Focusyn but won't take it so that the John Carpenter film that's about to start can actually disable my remaining neurons and make me fall asleep before 5 a.m. for once in my sorry life.

There's a lot of players whom I cannot read (ladd, Egix, dyachei -mostly-, Insaner, Empoof, merl1n, Fable -mostly-) because I haven't played with them -well, dyachei and Fable a bit, but it's been ages. So I'll play it by ear.
There's something weird there.

Zack's being aggressive and his read on me seems to have caused an interesting chain reaction from easy bandwaggoners (notice how *he* isn't voting me ;))…

… and then you voted Choxie, at least, but Fable's reaction makes me still suspect him.

newyn/Choxorn's N/A for now but only because it's D1. I've seen mafia duos get by with mutual tunnelling before.

GH's stopping by to post an announcement that he cannot post is odd.

Cuth… my x-postspidey sense tells me that's the real Cuth, at least he's solving, leave alone for now.

Monty… I think he tried to defend me? Odd. But then he voted for me (post #193) without even saying why, just jumping on the bandwaggon. I cannot take earlier D1 votes as terribly serious but Monty's I can because he does a lot of analysis and then plonks down the vote on me. Ty Monty and vote:Montmorency (Fable, get active, man). Counterwaggon roll, choo-choo!

Has anybody seen pzelda? He's the only one not posting.

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This post from Barto is alright. He just sees the things that look odd to him and spills it out into the thread. It looks natural. I think his jab at consensus #1 town read Zack is villagery because the wolves already know they won't be lynching him. Also calling someone odd for trying to defend you is probably >rand villager although I don't really have many examples to back it up.

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I'm trying to think if I can give you something more other than it just seems natural to me. The answer is sadly no =/ It just strikes me as him giving his... unfiltered? impressions of things. He isn't trying to force any conclusions with his comments which makes it look genuine. He has very little volume and I know it's not a good town case but I think the reasons to wolfread him are way, way worse. It's literally just Zack's two post read where he said that El Barto was wolfy for not voting me along with his joke. That's literally it. It's an okay read to make 5 minutes into the game, but I just checked and Zack actually never updater his read, the only time he gave something else was this post:

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This is the same thing choxorn did to newyn that I disliked cause it just feels fake, and masquerades as promoting productivity when it's actually completely unproductive

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Which is like, sure it's unproductive, but villagers cast votes on non contributors all the time as well. He never commented on Barto's read post.


Sorry it took so long, got distracted a couple of times.

:party3:
5. Zack

~:grouphug:
17. merl1n
15. Empoof

:beam:
11. ladd
16. Insaner

~:):blank:
10. Fable
14. Newyn
12. Cuthillius

:blank:~:handball:
2. Csargo
7. Logic
1. Montmorency

:anxious::blank:
4. Choxorn
6. GeneralHankerchief
9. Pzelda
8. Dyachei

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13. Egix

:boxing:
3. El Barto

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cya! ~:wave:

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Which is like, sure it's unproductive, but villagers cast votes on non contributors all the time as well. He never commented on Barto's read post.

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it's still passive and something he could easily do as a wolf

barto is a pretty confrontational villager. not feeling that at all here

kind of a weird read but I kind of like that GH stepped away from the game after the hydra game ended. feels like if he were wolfing he'd be more likely to try hard after a loss there

almost feels you're TMIing barto town tbh

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kind of a weird read but I kind of like that GH stepped away from the game after the hydra game ended. feels like if he were wolfing he'd be more likely to try hard after a loss there

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you really think so?

he seemed pretty tired to wolf by the end

also see ya, zack. Hopefully we are still both around tmr but our free times this game don't seem to coincide much

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it's still passive and something he could easily do as a wolf

barto is a pretty confrontational villager. not feeling that at all here

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This looks confrontational to me.

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Originally Posted by El Barto

OK, I'm parking my vote here for now. Be more constructive or else.

vote: Fable

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(you're not incuding me to change my vote, Fable-san) :bow:

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Zack's being aggressive and his read on me seems to have caused an interesting chain reaction from easy bandwaggoners (notice how *he* isn't voting me ;))…

… and then you voted Choxie, at least, but Fable's reaction makes me still suspect him.

Monty… I think he tried to defend me? Odd. But then he voted for me (post #193) without even saying why, just jumping on the bandwaggon. I cannot take earlier D1 votes as terribly serious but Monty's I can because he does a lot of analysis and then plonks down the vote on me. Ty Monty and vote:Montmorency (Fable, get active, man). Counterwaggon roll, choo-choo!

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I feel like I should have a more defined read on Barto as he might be my counter-wagon.
At this point, I don't find him wolfier or townier in any of the games I played with him on CivFanatics. He feels pretty much random to me at this point.


Also, I'm tired, taking a nap, hopefully I will wake up in time, uwu.