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Ok, if my deceased team mates want us to continue this as it is supposed, then trying to lynch the GF we will :bow:
You may be dead, but you're still part of the town team, so your voice should not be ignored.
Reenk, Beefy187 and taka, please forget about your "pact". Your loyalty should be with your team, the townies (well, this goes for 2 of you, one of you probably prefers to stick to this "pact")
Unvote : no lynch
Vote : Beefy187
Let's end this today.
I just realized something: I'm going to have to write a commentary for this colossaurus. :bigcry:
This is almost as unfair as saying I was trying to sabotage the town... :undecided: :sad:Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
I mean, I think it's pretty clear with the accusations made against me that I was in a damned if you do damned if you don't situation from the start, and I doubt I could look any less scummy so that my detractors would give me a break. I would guess they are the reason taka has been on my case.
This game is starting to take an unpleasant turn again, and although I really don't like my hand forced, I don't want to be called a spoiler, no matter how unfair the charge is...
Unvote: taka
Vote: Beefy (sorry Beefy :bow: you will probably get the dead support though)
I'm pretty sure I will get lynched if I leave it to the dead, but hey, I'm in that same hard place again. :shrug: :uneasy:
It's up to some of you to now change the image of me that you have presented.
Assuming the lynched doesn't get their vote, its going to be 10 votes for my lynch and 3 for yours Reenk.
Good to see the town with a common sense. Lynch the scummiest looking guy :yes:
This is exactly what I'm talking about. This is not a comment a townie would make after all that has occurred. He's using very basic reverse psychology, which is far too light an effort at this point in time. In this situation, the Godfather is far more likely to use this kind of subtlety. He's trying to finesse his way to a victory where brute force isn't an option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefy187
after so much analysis from everyone, it seems to me that beefy is scummy in their eyes which i concur to a certain point.
but it really strikes me on how reenk suddenly changes to beefy after swearing he would not do so AND after andres puts a vote on beefy first.
this was exactly something i was waiting to see if reenk would do - my so called "pact" with beefy was just to test if he would do something just like that.
im really torn between reenk and beefy, however i still think reenk is the smelly one
Are you freaking kidding me? You just didn't see how basically my hand was forced? :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by taka
I'm beginning to think taka is the Godfather after all. I don't believe you would have ever changed your vote.
Let me make a list of dead voters:
Voting for Reenk: Atpg, Chaotix, khaan, White eyes(?), Ichigo(?)
Voting for Beefy: Sasaki, TinCow, shlin, Aries(?)
Then we have the people who haven't said much, and those are who I'm most worried about.
Edit: taka, here is the test for you:
Unvote: Beefy
I don't understand what changing your vote at this point is supposed to prove.
Also, add Seamus to the Beefy deader vote.
Voting for Reenk: Atpg, Chaotix, khaan, White eyes(?), Ichigo(?), taka?
Voting for Beefy: Sasaki, TinCow, shlin, Aries(?), Seamus, Andres, QJC
Thats what I got soo far.
EXACTLYQuote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
so what about vote changing? you've been doing it for the past rounds, and not just changing once... or even twice, its like numberous times
i could change my vote onto beefy and then change it back to you the way you're doing it.
you constant vote changing IS one of the biggest reasons for me vote you and i don't think thats gonna change
Maybe we can have a tie today and then another tie the next day!
Good list, forgot QJC, I'm not so sure Seamus would go for you though (would you Seamus)? The thing is the two grunts will come into play... :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefy187
taka, what the heck is wrong with vote changing huh? :huh: If you honestly vote for someone or think he is suspicious because he vote changes, then I don't know what to say? I vote change when there is a better person to vote and for strategic reasons.
I think there is considerably more pursuasive power on the anti-beefy side. Plus, people would rather lose to a ballsy mafioso than a standard mafioso.
Whats the point of that besides causing a stalemate?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Ok.. Maybe that was a joke
I'm seriously reconsidering taka's guilt at the moment. I never liked anybody's but my case on Beefy in the first place, but taka has just given the worst reasons for suspecting me.
I am scum because I say I should have had you killed off (I should have obviously) or because I change my vote in the previous rounds and now.
Or because I vote for Beefy because you said you wouldn't change if I wouldn't and now you say I look scummy because I did?
Enough with this rock and hard place stuff! :laugh4:
For those who think Reenk is guilty, please consider last night's write-up:
The one thing that is remarkable about this is that it is so short. The above write-up was produced because it had to be produced. The person who wrote it took no pleasure in it, and it shows. This is not Reenk. Reenk could create a write-up that is replete with grammar errors and otherwise makes it impossible to ID him by its style. However, the one thing Reenk always does is be entertaining. This write-up is not entertaining in any way, and this is one area that I just don't see Reenk compromising on. A Reenk write-up would have been longer and the death far more interesting.Quote:
Day breaks in the Gameroom. All is quiet.
Quintus.JC walked home from the latest execution, thoroughly disturbed at everything that had went on. With his mind elsewhere, he prepared for another night of sleep that wouldn't come. Of course, it didn't, as he stared at his ceiling, contemplating long after the sun rose.
He didn't notice the sound of a window breaking, nor the sound of footsteps throughout his house, nor did he notice the door to his room being kicked in and a shadowy figure standing in the doorway, pointing a revolver right at him.
*BANG!!!*
QJC died.
I was lynched, Tincow, not murdered. I am not sure if GH will draw a difference between the two or not should he come to allow a "dead vote."
I have my suspicions of all 4. Currently, for the reasons noted, Beefy is in the lead. taka-san is a not too distant 2nd and Reenkster 3rd by half a length. Only Andres is lagging on my meter.
Seamus, all the dead get to vote, I think GH put it "all deaders" (too lazy to look it up).
Look at my writeups for Rise of the Mob as compared to my writeups for Mafia V (both games happened concurrently). Not only does the former have shorter writeups, but aside from a few, they aren't entertaining at all. I would certainly look to the writeups to cover my tracks. :grin2:Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Though it is good to see an effort to clear my name among the dead. I believe you did a lot more damage than Atpg in that matter. :laugh4:
Good to know that Cow can run faster then Reenkster:clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Sorry if I'm sounding silly. I'm in a silly mood right now
Yeesh, this is a first one for me. I've never had to convince someone that write-ups weren't theirs before! :laugh4: The examples you cite don't show what you claim.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
First of all, you were in two major games at the same time. Mafia V obviously took precedent, and you put a ton of work into those write-ups. I have no idea what other mafia games you're playing at the moment, but I highly doubt that any of them would take priority over this one. You would give this game your top effort, just like you did in Mafia V.
Second, even in Rise of the Mob, your write-ups are entertaining. Perhaps not to the same level as the Wanax, but they are still amusing in their own way. That's the game in which you actually produced the now-infamous bomb-vest kill. It's short, but it's amusing and clever in its own way. The fact that you would consider this to not be entertaining only further proves my point. Your standards on mafia entertainment are very high (for which we are all thankful, btw :bow:). Even your minor efforts are fun.
Third, your write-ups were short in Rise of the Mob because you were short on time, and even suicided out of the game for this reason. In the current situation, you've got a major game which is a revival of one of the most revered (or so I am told) mafia series in the Gameroom. You've survived all the way to the last phase, and you've produced absolutely monumental write-ups for the lynchings. You're putting a great deal of effort into this game, and thus even the time excuse you would have had for the shorter Rise of the Mob write-ups doesn't fit here.
In summary, if you were the Godfather, you would have written last night's kill write-up. There's no way you would have gotten this far, and then given that duty to one of your dead grunts. It would be a point of honor for you. This is also by far the 'biggest' game in the Gameroom at the moment, and one of the tops of all time already. You would not put in a half-baked performance here. You also have tons of time on your hands, so you wouldn't shirk the write-up for that reason. The result is simply that that write-up wasn't done by you. It's just lacking in the fun factor that is the focus of everything you do in mafia. Just because you've written shorter write-ups in previous games doesn't change that.
Well, yes the write up wasn't done by me, but I must disagree that there is any indication of it. :laugh4:
Of course there is my beloved bulletproof vest kill, which was my all time favorite but then in that game many of the kills are boring. The Sigurd kill is decent but short, but the other kills are pretty bad (Kommodus and Sasaki were awful :laugh4:, Csar/Ichigo extended them). I didn't even give descriptions for a couple of kills.
This was completely planned by the way, not because I was spending more time on Mafia V (in fact it's what got me caught too). In that game, what isn't shown is an incredibly long and complex PM trail where Sasaki acted like the mediator pretending to be my friend while giving all the info to Kage. I kinda figured Sasaki was playing me from the start (remember "Oh cool" Sasaki :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:) and so I tried to pull other strings but I had really screwed myself there. :2thumbsup:
The suicide was definitely not because of time issues again, it was because Ichigo and I wanted to mess with the town.
By the way The Wanax kills from #2 on in Mafia V were all written in a boring 2 hour psychology lecture. :laugh4: In fact, I have been a bit late in sending GH these Wanax executions.
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Edit - nobody at all will question taka eh?:
Vote: Beefy then :shrug:
Haven't really had time to gain a proper understanding of everything that has occured today, but I believe Andres and Reenk are probably innocent.
Beefy seems to be in real trouble, but Taka too has questions to answer. certainly his accusation of reenk for changing his vote is a little out of the ordinary. With four candidates, none cleared, and victory to the mafia with a wrong choice, you'd want to be sure of yourself, and to pressure others, by applying a vote, is one of the few methods that could result in more discussion....
I rather have Andres lynched then Reenkster. But unvoting Reenk will get me killed :sweatdrop:
taka can have his victory if he is the God Father. I gave up on him :laugh4:
I'm not in trouble. The towns are if they end up lynching me....
This is not like beefy at all. He is always fine with being lynched...Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefy187
Not on the last round :sweatdrop:Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
Good point Tincow. The last kill write-up was extremely different in length and style with the previous kill write-ups, which in a way suggests that White_Eyes was one of the grunts.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
In another way I feel the write-up could indicate towards Taka, whom has never hosted (don't if true or not) a mafia game before. All the other three Andres, Beefy and Reenk would of been no stranger to write-ups, and could provide long and detailed write-ups with similarities to ones being produced before White_Eyes' lynch.
I know there are many other possibilities why the write-up could be so different, but in the end it does still point towards Taka. Although I'd still stick my vote to Beefy if it comes down to it. As Pevergreen pointed out Beefy seems very talkative and uncomfortable with being lynched, normally Beefy doesn't seems to argue this much, also the GF has played magnificently that many townies appears to agree of letting the GF win the game because of his brilliant play. The Beefy I know would do that, and probably wouldn't mind letting the GF win based on the skill of the GF, and despite Beefy's argument of being in the last round, it just doesn't seem right to me.
There's a chance I may not be around at exactly 14:00 to end the lynch (taking advantage of the snow to play Axis & Allies with friends :2thumbsup"). However, voting will still close at that time.
Voting closed.
Give me a while.
Eagerly anticipating.... :beam:
Brilliant game btw GH, this will undoubtly be remembered as one of the classics. We own this to you GH and the godfather (for staying alive for so long), who ever you may be. :bow:
Amazing game!!!
Can't wait to see who the GF is!
My suspects... partially influenced by the last few pages are in this order
1. Reenk
2. Beefy
3. Taka
4. Andres...
Whoever it is did a damn good job of it...