Election over. CNN gearing up for a "major projection" - I would guess Ohio.
Congratulations President Obama! Good choice America!
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Election over. CNN gearing up for a "major projection" - I would guess Ohio.
Congratulations President Obama! Good choice America!
The Midwest is opening up, and Fox called Ohio for Obama - but CNN, ABC, CBS, and AP have yet to report. McCain just won West Virginia.
Wow. So he makes it a lot more expensive to have power, and then gives out even more money that that to cover the increased cost caused by the government's actions,
Well despite tony blairs big commitment to fight global warming the only thing that increased our energy bills was the ill advised foriegn policy of bush and blair, so i don't see why obama's plans would work any differently...
Isn't there a law that if you fit into a certain category you cannot vote anymore which would mean Gawain can't vote .
im missing something, i wasn't around when gawain left, is it something to do with non tax payment ? or a felony ?
On the bright side, I'm now rich. And can be expected to be taxed as such.
your income has suddenly jumped to 250k, great news, even with the reverse of bush's tax cuts your going to be alot better off!
Ohio for obama!!
Celebrate good times!!
Jag- what's with the sudden surge in interest for US politics? Here to support your glorious comrade?
Jag's always had a huge interest in us politics... you should have been here during bush's re election, i think he's jus less intrested in actually debating issues nw...
I havent really posted here since you have been a member here - but those who know me form here know I have always had interest in US politics - I was as heartbroken in 04 as I am happy now. I always stay up to watch the US elections - Midterms as well as Presidential ones. After all I studied Politics at Uni and I am just a politics geek, it is fair to say! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by makaikhaan
President Obama!!!! Woot!
I fear we're doomed!:sweatdrop::sweatdrop::sweatdrop:
By last count, "rich" was household income of 90k. Mrs. Corleone and I cannot afford to pay at a 39% income tax rate and keep our house. Enjoy it, I'll be busy burning down black churches according to Louis.Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly
Congrats to Comrade Obama. Now the entire country gets to see what its like to live in Detroit or East St Louis. The world can now celebrate, your Messiah has risen.Quote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
Gah.
Well, there's still hope for Rossi, though that won't be settled tonight.
CR
This makes up for the heartbreak of '04
Arizona is tied!
This is a new dawn for american politics! obama is rewriting the landscape like reegan did!
New Mexico also for Obama!
Little hint to my fellow Americans, if JAG's celebrating an American election, it ain't good for America. Good night everyone....Quote:
Originally Posted by JAG
No votes counted there :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly
CNN CALLS OHIO!
Like I've said before, if nothing else, this proves once and for all MONEY WINS ELECTIONS. McCain deserved to lose for following public funding guidelines after Obama broke his promise to follow them.
Where are you getting your info? CNN shows McCain up by almost 20. Not that it matters since the urban centers aren't in, but its still a little early.Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly
CNN shows Obama up by 13..Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Winter
Man and I thought you liked me?! :D :balloon2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
It's not as if I am a socialist or anything!
Doh!Quote:
Originally Posted by JAG
:2thumbsup:
Tempted to sig... :tongue:
Well, in NJ Lautenberg crushed Zimmer. Looks like we'll have another 6 years of machine politics. I'm just bitter because Frankie screwed Rob Andrews over in the primaries... :furious3:
In other words, congrats to Barack Obama and let's hope he can deliver on his main themes.
CNN, i.e. TV, says McCain - 69 and Obama - 194.Quote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
By last count, "rich" was household income of 90k. Mrs. Corleone and I cannot afford to pay at a 39% income tax rate and keep our house.
I guess it's lucky Obama disagrees on your definition of rich, and that he doesn't want you to have a 39% rate
The world can now celebrate, your Messiah has risen.
Indeed, the republican scourge that has infected the world for the last 8 years is over, the terrible foriegn policy which drove people in droves to the arms of our enemys is over, britian will be a far safer place without a strongman posturing in the white house and costing british lives, there will still be terrorists but without bush to drive them in thier hundreds to AQ britian will be several orders of magnitue safer
for this reason alone Obama is practically like a messiah, it is only in comparison to the former occupant of the white house
George W. Bush does not have the cleanest profile when it comes to that, does he ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I've always liked you, its your vision of the world that I don't approve of. But you still have an open inventation to stay at my house and go Civil War Battlefield touring.:2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by JAG
Nope, it won't be a Reagan-esque victory (check out the electoral maps from '80 and '84 - it was a complete blowout).Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly
Obama got elected by moving drastically to the right in terms of rhetoric, so I'd caution people who see this as America moving left or giving a mandate to liberalism.
CR
I meant in Ohio specifically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rythmic
The excuses begin...Quote:
Obama got elected by moving drastically to the right in terms of rhetoric, so I'd caution people who see this as America moving left or giving a mandate to liberalism.
Its a 15% now (website), not that it matters the cities should throw it to Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
Deal my friend, I still plan on doing that at some point in the not too distant future too! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
I think you are wrong, really wrong and I think unless the GOP look at realistically why they have got their asses handed to them, they will continue to get battered like this. Remember in the Mid terms they got kicked and then again this year they are getting kicked - that simply doesn't happen over there in your great nation. People don't like the GOP at the moment.Quote:
Nope, it won't be a Reagan-esque victory (check out the electoral maps from '80 and '84 - it was a complete blowout).
Obama got elected by moving drastically to the right in terms of rhetoric, so I'd caution people who see this as America moving left or giving a mandate to liberalism.
I like you Jag. I remember you from WAY back.Quote:
Originally Posted by JAG
Don't take comments from the angry cave-troll department too seriously. They've got a lot less to be blisteringly viciously upset about than progressives do. You'd think we'd just come out of 8 years of one of the most fantastically left-wing administrations in history, instead of the right-wing inverse.
God forbid.Quote:
Obama got elected by moving drastically to the right in terms of rhetoric, so I'd caution people who see this as America moving left or giving a mandate to liberalism.
Agreed, the GOP needs to abandon the southern strategy, character assasination, fear tactic politics. The response the GOP has garnered to faltering public support for Republican candidates has been "I guess we didn't get vicious enough in our personal attack ads, let's imply he's a pedophile this time" and it didn't work.Quote:
People don't like the GOP at the moment.
Jag- I trust you've seen the map of Reagan vs Mondale? That was the very definition of a massacre. This already has proved to be far from that big of a win.
The reaction of the conservative members is understandable. Us lefties did the same exact thing 4 years ago.
Obama now has 24 hours to celebrate. After that, he has to start living up to the faith the public have put in him. He had better put up an excellent and bipartisan cabinet.
That was his re-election, but ya I get your point - his victory over Carter was similarily emphatic.Quote:
Originally Posted by seireikhaan
But still, I think there is a movement, which underpins this like that Reagan victory. I think it would be unwise for the GOP to think otherwise, or to think they simply were not Conservative enough or that the people will simply just come back to them. I say again, 06 the GOP got a beating and AGAIN tonight they are gettign a beating even WORSE. That never happens. But it is.