Election over. CNN gearing up for a "major projection" - I would guess Ohio.
Congratulations President Obama! Good choice America!
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Election over. CNN gearing up for a "major projection" - I would guess Ohio.
Congratulations President Obama! Good choice America!
Rest in Peace TosaInu, the Org will be your legacy
Originally Posted by Leon Blum - For All Mankind
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The Midwest is opening up, and Fox called Ohio for Obama - but CNN, ABC, CBS, and AP have yet to report. McCain just won West Virginia.
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Wow. So he makes it a lot more expensive to have power, and then gives out even more money that that to cover the increased cost caused by the government's actions,
Well despite tony blairs big commitment to fight global warming the only thing that increased our energy bills was the ill advised foriegn policy of bush and blair, so i don't see why obama's plans would work any differently...
Isn't there a law that if you fit into a certain category you cannot vote anymore which would mean Gawain can't vote .
im missing something, i wasn't around when gawain left, is it something to do with non tax payment ? or a felony ?
On the bright side, I'm now rich. And can be expected to be taxed as such.
your income has suddenly jumped to 250k, great news, even with the reverse of bush's tax cuts your going to be alot better off!
Ohio for obama!!
Celebrate good times!!
Jag- what's with the sudden surge in interest for US politics? Here to support your glorious comrade?
Jag's always had a huge interest in us politics... you should have been here during bush's re election, i think he's jus less intrested in actually debating issues nw...
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I havent really posted here since you have been a member here - but those who know me form here know I have always had interest in US politics - I was as heartbroken in 04 as I am happy now. I always stay up to watch the US elections - Midterms as well as Presidential ones. After all I studied Politics at Uni and I am just a politics geek, it is fair to say! :p
Jag- what's with the sudden surge in interest for US politics? Here to support your glorious comrade?
President Obama!!!! Woot!
GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944
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I fear we're doomed!
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By last count, "rich" was household income of 90k. Mrs. Corleone and I cannot afford to pay at a 39% income tax rate and keep our house. Enjoy it, I'll be busy burning down black churches according to Louis.
"A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man."
Don Vito Corleone: The Godfather, Part 1.
"Then wait for them and swear to God in heaven that if they spew that bull to you or your family again you will cave there heads in with a sledgehammer"
Strike for the South
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Congrats to Comrade Obama. Now the entire country gets to see what its like to live in Detroit or East St Louis. The world can now celebrate, your Messiah has risen.
RIP Tosa
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Gah.
Well, there's still hope for Rossi, though that won't be settled tonight.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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This makes up for the heartbreak of '04
Arizona is tied!
This is a new dawn for american politics! obama is rewriting the landscape like reegan did!
New Mexico also for Obama!
In remembrance of our great Admin Tosa Inu, A tireless worker with the patience of a saint. As long as I live I will not forget you. Thank you for everything!
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Little hint to my fellow Americans, if JAG's celebrating an American election, it ain't good for America. Good night everyone....
RIP Tosa
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No votes counted there
CNN CALLS OHIO!
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Rest in Peace TosaInu, the Org will be your legacy
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Like I've said before, if nothing else, this proves once and for all MONEY WINS ELECTIONS. McCain deserved to lose for following public funding guidelines after Obama broke his promise to follow them.
"A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man."
Don Vito Corleone: The Godfather, Part 1.
"Then wait for them and swear to God in heaven that if they spew that bull to you or your family again you will cave there heads in with a sledgehammer"
Strike for the South
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Where are you getting your info? CNN shows McCain up by almost 20. Not that it matters since the urban centers aren't in, but its still a little early.
When it occurs to a man that nature does not regard him as important and that she feels she would not maim the universe by disposing of him, he at first wishes to throw bricks at the temple, and he hates deeply the fact that there are no bricks and no temples
-Stephen Crane
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CNN shows Obama up by 13..
Rest in Peace TosaInu, the Org will be your legacy
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Man and I thought you liked me?! :D
It's not as if I am a socialist or anything!
GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944
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Doh!
GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944
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Tempted to sig...
Rest in Peace TosaInu, the Org will be your legacy
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Well, in NJ Lautenberg crushed Zimmer. Looks like we'll have another 6 years of machine politics. I'm just bitter because Frankie screwed Rob Andrews over in the primaries...
In other words, congrats to Barack Obama and let's hope he can deliver on his main themes.
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"Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
"I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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CNN, i.e. TV, says McCain - 69 and Obama - 194.
#Hillary4prism
BD:TW
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And hold that everything depends upon having the “right” religion.
But when one really knows, one has no need of religion. - Mahavyuha Sutra
Freedom necessarily involves risk. - Alan Watts
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By last count, "rich" was household income of 90k. Mrs. Corleone and I cannot afford to pay at a 39% income tax rate and keep our house.
I guess it's lucky Obama disagrees on your definition of rich, and that he doesn't want you to have a 39% rate
The world can now celebrate, your Messiah has risen.
Indeed, the republican scourge that has infected the world for the last 8 years is over, the terrible foriegn policy which drove people in droves to the arms of our enemys is over, britian will be a far safer place without a strongman posturing in the white house and costing british lives, there will still be terrorists but without bush to drive them in thier hundreds to AQ britian will be several orders of magnitue safer
for this reason alone Obama is practically like a messiah, it is only in comparison to the former occupant of the white house
In remembrance of our great Admin Tosa Inu, A tireless worker with the patience of a saint. As long as I live I will not forget you. Thank you for everything!
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George W. Bush does not have the cleanest profile when it comes to that, does he ?
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I've always liked you, its your vision of the world that I don't approve of. But you still have an open inventation to stay at my house and go Civil War Battlefield touring.Man and I thought you liked me?! :D
It's not as if I am a socialist or anything!
RIP Tosa
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Nope, it won't be a Reagan-esque victory (check out the electoral maps from '80 and '84 - it was a complete blowout).
Obama got elected by moving drastically to the right in terms of rhetoric, so I'd caution people who see this as America moving left or giving a mandate to liberalism.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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I meant in Ohio specifically.
The excuses begin...Obama got elected by moving drastically to the right in terms of rhetoric, so I'd caution people who see this as America moving left or giving a mandate to liberalism.
Rest in Peace TosaInu, the Org will be your legacy
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Its a 15% now (website), not that it matters the cities should throw it to Obama.
When it occurs to a man that nature does not regard him as important and that she feels she would not maim the universe by disposing of him, he at first wishes to throw bricks at the temple, and he hates deeply the fact that there are no bricks and no temples
-Stephen Crane
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Deal my friend, I still plan on doing that at some point in the not too distant future too! :)I've always liked you, its your vision of the world that I don't approve of. But you still have an open inventation to stay at my house and go Civil War Battlefield touring.
I think you are wrong, really wrong and I think unless the GOP look at realistically why they have got their asses handed to them, they will continue to get battered like this. Remember in the Mid terms they got kicked and then again this year they are getting kicked - that simply doesn't happen over there in your great nation. People don't like the GOP at the moment.Nope, it won't be a Reagan-esque victory (check out the electoral maps from '80 and '84 - it was a complete blowout).
Obama got elected by moving drastically to the right in terms of rhetoric, so I'd caution people who see this as America moving left or giving a mandate to liberalism.
GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944
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I like you Jag. I remember you from WAY back.Man and I thought you liked me?! :D
It's not as if I am a socialist or anything!
Don't take comments from the angry cave-troll department too seriously. They've got a lot less to be blisteringly viciously upset about than progressives do. You'd think we'd just come out of 8 years of one of the most fantastically left-wing administrations in history, instead of the right-wing inverse.
God forbid.Obama got elected by moving drastically to the right in terms of rhetoric, so I'd caution people who see this as America moving left or giving a mandate to liberalism.
Agreed, the GOP needs to abandon the southern strategy, character assasination, fear tactic politics. The response the GOP has garnered to faltering public support for Republican candidates has been "I guess we didn't get vicious enough in our personal attack ads, let's imply he's a pedophile this time" and it didn't work.People don't like the GOP at the moment.
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Koga no Goshi
I give my Nihon Maru to TosaInu in tribute.
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Jag- I trust you've seen the map of Reagan vs Mondale? That was the very definition of a massacre. This already has proved to be far from that big of a win.
It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then, the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.
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The reaction of the conservative members is understandable. Us lefties did the same exact thing 4 years ago.
Obama now has 24 hours to celebrate. After that, he has to start living up to the faith the public have put in him. He had better put up an excellent and bipartisan cabinet.
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That was his re-election, but ya I get your point - his victory over Carter was similarily emphatic.
But still, I think there is a movement, which underpins this like that Reagan victory. I think it would be unwise for the GOP to think otherwise, or to think they simply were not Conservative enough or that the people will simply just come back to them. I say again, 06 the GOP got a beating and AGAIN tonight they are gettign a beating even WORSE. That never happens. But it is.
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GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944
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