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GO SQUIRRALS, really just get the hell out of there
Dose anyone else see the irony of a Frenchman discussing the land theft of others? Particularly Canadian land theft?Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
After all Canada is a relatively new country. The original theft took place under French and or British control.
Also one could make a reasonable argument that excepting Île-de-France the whole country was snatched away from its rightful owners. :hmg:
[QUOTE=Fisherking;2053261613]Dose anyone else see the irony of a Frenchman discussing the land theft of others? /QUOTE]
Irony makes them French to begin with, it's like Belgium sweating pure testosteron. Hold them back
So is a lot of what you say about the Israel-Palestine conflict, I think that is PJ's point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beirut
The emphasis and repetition towards the end cannot distract from the fact that you're heavily backpedaling now. ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Beirut
Though it doesn't really matter whether your father destroyed a Jagdpanther or not, he probably did a good job anyway....
is that intended to:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beirut
a) advance the current debate,
b) merely act a 'pleasantry', or;
c) troll for a angry reaction,
just curious.............?
I stopped responding a while ago. There was no point when some one just regurgitates something blindingly like a Fox News talk-host, and doesn't address certain hypocrisies in their posts.
Well, from what I've seen, a lot of people here seem very concerned with the rights of displaced indigeous peoples.
Methinks the Palestinians have much more backing now then they did a few pages back. Either that of the people who back Israel are freely admitting the land was stolen and that the Palesting are getting screwed over by right of might.
Just having some fun, bubby. :smiley:Quote:
Originally Posted by Furunculus
agreed, this did rather become a purposeless thread rather than a vehicle for discussion and learning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
And that is the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beirut
I've read your posts for years Beirut, and even though you do not post here very often anymore, I remember that they were always insightful, measured responses - except when discussing this particular topic. I don't know if it triggers an emotional reaction in you, or if you think such methods further your point, but you become a one man propaganda machine for the Palestinian cause.
Now of course you are free to post whatever you like, but I just wanted to point out that people tune out such absolutist rhetoric and your opinion soon loses credibility.
Interestingly enough, the Allies eventually had great success in every theatre except one. ~;)Quote:
I don't see why. Since the Germans got whacked in every theater they fought in, that means someone was blowing those things up.
Was that the one between russia and finland?
Kind of you to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
I see a people imprisoned and suffering. How can I not jump to their defense?Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
My concern isn't whether people tune out; my concern is that people speak loudly and forcefully when they see people being victimized. There is a lot of stigma and stones thrown at people who support the Palestinians. It's important that those people doing the throwing never think for one moment that the other side will ever give in, tone down, or walk away in fear. This is a human rights issue. Absolutism is required.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
And you will be dropping this particular shoe when?Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
Sounds really bad that prison, really confuses me why all Palestians I know visit it every year. I'm invited for the summer, should I go it sounds kinda dangerous
Home is home, even if it's not the best place. And why should a person not go home just because someone else is making it a bad place to be?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
I think Palestinians going back to Gaza shows a lot of heart.
I totally think you should go. I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts afterwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
I would go, who cares if its dangerous you'll probably be fine and it would be fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Of course not. By Beirut's logic he would be justified in targeting RCArmy and RCMP facilities as they are armed components of the oppressor state. Beirut was very clear about the AIMING thing, PJ. Beirut has NOT succumbed to the "They hit our kids so we should hit theirs" philosophy -- he has merely noted that there are those who do think that.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
That was kinda sarcasm. I know it will be fun should I go and I know that I will have no problems whatsoever beyond sugar-overdose how can they eat that. Which is kinda the point, things aren't all that bad there, most certainly not a humanitarian disaster. And if there was any the only thing that sets it apart is that it are Israeli's doing it. Total silence on where it's much much worse. Not going by the wayQuote:
Originally Posted by Chuchip
Strange because UNRWA is still massively busy there. Must be a holiday camp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
I can find you plenty that it isQuote:
Originally Posted by alh_p
guess who is he UN there by the way, all money is byebye
Go on, tell me that they are all obese and therefore actually over-indulging.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Never said all, but they are the second fattest people in the universe and surroundings yesQuote:
Originally Posted by alh_p
http://www.duo.uio.no/sok/work.html?WORKID=18238Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Nutritional status and lifestyle among school adolescents in Gaza strip, 2003, Abudayya, Abdallah Hassan, University of Oslo
And for more points:Quote:
Results: The prevalence of underweight was 4.9%, overweight was 12.8%, obesity was 5.5% and stunting was 9.6%, the latter being higher among boys than girls. The prevalence of anemia was 48.1%. It was higher among girls than boys 51.4% and 44.2% respectively. Higher consumption in starch items was found compared to other important food items such as animal products, mainly meat, and dairy products as well as fruits and vegetables. Food frequency intake seems to be positively related to socio-economic status for all food groups.
However no relationship was found between the frequency intakes of the different food groups and BMI, except for starchy items that were negatively associated with BMI. Poverty and low level of education in parents was associated with the high prevalence of chronic
malnutrition (stunting). Adolescents’ lifestyle seemed to be affected by the urbanization as well as the political situation. A high sedentary lifestyle and physical inactivity was observed in this study. A relatively high number of dieting adolescents and skipping meals patterns was also observed. The prevalence of smoking was found to be relatively high in adolescents at this age.
Conclusion: Stunting, overweight/obesity and anemia are considered public health problems among the adolescents in Gaza and immediate actions to improve the nutritional status of this age group should be taken. Multi-sector coordination between different ministries and community NGOs in order to improve the nutritional status of the adolescents in Palestine should take place. The Nutrition
Department in the Ministry of Health should take the leading role and initiate this and take the initiative to develop a national plan which aims at improving the nutritional status and maintain well-being of young children and adolescents.
www.who.int/countryfocus/cooperation_strategy/ccsbrief_pse_en.pdf
Yes, a holiday camp.Quote:
Demographic and epidemiological transition is occurring. The fertility rate remains high at 4.6 children per woman, while infant and under-five mortality rates are low at 24.2 and 28.5 per 1000 live births respectively. Noncommunicable diseases are the major causes of mortality (heart disease 19.1%, cerebrovascular conditions 8.2%, cancers 9.9%, and a sharp increase in accidents from 9 per 100 000 in 1995 to 32.2 per 100 000 in 2004) together with perinatal conditions (9.7%).a Communicable diseases including pneumonia, respiratory infections, viral hepatitis (A, B and C) and tuberculosis account for 10% of deaths. HIV/AIDS is not yet a significant problem.
Mental health morbidity is increasing. Levels of psychological trauma and stress are high especially for children and young people. Almost 50% of children report personal experience of conflict-related violence or have witnessed violence. Aggressive behaviour among children and adolescents is increasingly reported. Since 2000 there has been a significant increase in the number of patients seeking treatment at community mental health centres.
Chronic malnutrition and dietary-related disease are slowly increasing. Iron-deficiency anaemia affects 25% of children under five and 33% of women of child-bearing age; stunting is increasing in children under five; premature and low birth weight are responsible for 25.9% of all reported infant deaths in 2004. Obesity nd chronic diseases related to diet are increasing in older groups. There is a significant health imbalance between West Bank and Gaza Strip. Infant mortality rates are 30% higher in Gaza (30.2 per 1000) than in the West Bank (20 per 1000) and mortality figures in Gaza have increased by 15% compared with pre-intifada figures.
The who huh
I hope Banqo isn't going to get all to angry with me, but it's really true. Inbreeding causes most of all that
Really? That's not what those SCIENTISTS and MEDICAL DOCTORS say above. Who should I believe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
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Poverty and low level of education in parents was associated with the high prevalence of chronic malnutrition (stunting). Adolescents’ lifestyle seemed to be affected by the urbanization as well as the political situation. A high sedentary lifestyle and physical inactivity was observed in this study.
Listen to daddy and start giving sources. :smash:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
I don't know if the extremely high obesity levels in Gaza are the result of inbreeding, but many other physical and mental problems are. For example, boys mistaken for girls:
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/me....id/index.htmlQuote:
Until last summer, both Nadir and Ahmed were -- for all intents and purposes -- girls. They wore female headscarves, attended girls' school and even answered to the female first names Navin and Ola.
Both Nadir and Ahmed were born with a rare birth defect called male pseudohermaphrodism.
Deficiency of the hormone 17-B-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (17-B-HSD) during pregnancy left their male reproductive organs deformed and buried deep within their abdomens.
At birth, doctors identified Nadir and Ahmed as girls, because they appeared to have female genitalia.
As a result, they spent the first 16 years of their lives dressing and acting like girls. It was a role that grew increasingly difficult to play, as they hit puberty and their bodies began generating testosterone, resulting in facial hair and increasingly masculine features.
"They used to travel by car to girls' school and back," says Nadir's father Mohammed Sadih Ahmed Saleh. "Because of their facial hair, it was difficult for them to go out into the street. Psychologically they were distressed."
[...]
There are an unusually high number of male pseudohermaphrodite births in the Gaza neighborhood of Jabalya, where Nadir and Ahmed live.
Dr. Jehad Abudaia, a Canadian-Palestinian pediatrician and urologist practicing in Gaza, says he has diagnosed nearly 80 cases like Nadir's and Ahmed's in the last seven years."It is astonishing that we have [so] many cases with this defect, which is very rare all over the world," Abudaia says. He attributes the high frequency of this birth defect to "consanguinity," or in-breeding.
"If you want to go to the root of the problem, this problem runs in families in the genes." Abudaia says. "They want to get married to cousins... they don't go to another family. This is a problem."
Pathological research on suicide bombers revealed that 90% suffered from severe mental or physical defects. Islamic / Afghan society having little patience with deformities, these social outcast wre driven into martyrs.
Many Islamic societies have high levels of consaguity. This creates unusually high numbers of people with mental or physical disabilities: the very people that are recruited / driven into martyrdom. In this manner, Islamic terrorism is closely linked with Islamic inbreeding. :book:
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Pathologist: Taliban Mostly Recruits Afghans With Disabilities For Suicide Bombings
KABUL, AFGHANISTAN--National Public Radio's Morning Edition reported Monday that most of the increasing number of Taliban suicide bombers in Afghanistan are believed to have had physical or mental disabilities.
NPR quoted forensic pathologist Dr. Yusuf Yadgari, who claims that, based on autopsies performed on the remains of recent suicide bombers, nearly 90 percent had a disability or medical condition such as leprosy.
"They are probably resentful because in Afghan society they are outcasts," Dr.Yadgari said. "They hold a grudge because many of them can't get a job. So, to make money for their families, they agree to become suicide bombers."
He added that it is often difficult to identify those who have successfully carried out suicide missions for the Taliban because they seldom carry identification, and family members seldom come forward to claim their remains.
News services have not been able to confirm Yadgari's claims, which were first announced in May of this year. Canada's Globe and Mail reported, however, that his findings were consistent with the number of would-be suicide bombers whose missions have failed, either because they have changed their minds or because they have been stopped by law enforcement or soldiers.
Oh yea duh I forgot about all that stuff you said earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
So where's the source to say that? Isn't that the biggest whopper in your piece -that Islamic societies are inbred? I'm not denying that many tribal (and other) societies will be but if you're going to use the book emoticon...Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
As to the degree of people with disabilities being suicide bombers, that to me speaks as much to the exploitative grooming of bombers. This is at odds with the use of videos etc to carry a message of "commitment to the cause" by Palestinian and others, to indicate "martyrdom" by a healthy individual, fully conscious of their decisions.