Asia ton Barbaron disscusion thread

Thanks for that keravnos, I'll get onto that right now. :2thumbsup:

EDIT: Bosporan sig updated- see Post #160

For those who can't use rapidshare:http://uploaded.to/?id=gquhe5

Okay, guys, we got our forums: here.

Every one imediatley add to favourites or face my anger!:whip:


And yes, I will be your benevolent Basileios of the Basileion Asia ton Barbarbaron. Well, fairly benevolent anyway...


Watch your spamming Malik:whip:

Watch your double posting,Pharnakes!

By the way,forums still are kinda ugly,so don't mess there.We will create everything slowly,And make admetos make a skin for the forums.Pharnakes posted the link too early >:(

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Originally Posted by Malik of Sindh

Watch your double posting,Pharnakes!

By the way,forums still are kinda ugly,so don't mess there.We will create everything slowly,And make admetos make a skin for the forums.Pharnakes posted the link too early >:(

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I am a bit embarassed to admit that your sig needs to have a "N" added to "BASILEIO". It is "BASILEION TES INDIAS"="Kingdom of India". I am really sorry about that. Don't know how I missed it. :embarassed:

Ill have Admetos fix it when hes online.Anyway,we got our forum going,more or less.We still need a skin though.Everyone is welcome now.

I also just realised that "Bosporou" should be "Bosphorou". Modern greek creeping in again.

A different transilteration is used from ancient greek to english than to modern greek.

You must also be made aware of the following fact. There is no small "y" in greek. "u" is used instead. So what in capital greek would be "ΒΑΣΙΛΕΙΟΝ ΒΟΣΠΟΡΟΥ" in lower greek would be "Βασίλειον Βοσπόρου".

I don't know which you will elect to use, "u" is more than fine, actually I would go with that, but I had to let you guys know.
"Basileion Bosphorou" as would be its transliteration in english (from ancient greek).

Thanks for your support Keravnos.Admetos didin't come online yesterday,and I didin't see him today either.Hope his mom didin't do anything bad to him :laugh4:.Honestly I think taking his RTW cd was enough punishment for being computer zombie.

Is there going to be a japanese faction too?
It would be great if the map is that big, that Japan is on the map :D

Check the first post,it shows the maps extent.Its Greece to Bengal.

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Originally Posted by LotW89

Is there going to be a japanese faction too?
It would be great if the map is that big, that Japan is on the map :D

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just to let you know... most people when they like Japan like the samurai and stuff...
well in this timeframe Japanese was beginning to use bronze and iron and the Yayoi tribe was pushing the Ainu up to Hokkaido...

this is not the sophisticated and feudal Japanese everyone loves for some reason but the tribal and I guess so-called "primitive" Japan... its the very early beginnings of Japanese civilization...

a parallel could be those tribes you see on the Baltic in EB, they had a culture and all but they were behind everyone else in terms of power and progress... but they had their own culture, wars, etc.... just like the Japanese in this time period..

Uhm, I know that Japan was primitive in this time, so I wonder if there will be a japanese faction...

btw: Yes, I like samurai, and I am a samurai & a little bit ninja, but you won't believe it I think ;)

Anyhow, the discusion is pointless, thers is simply NO way we are going to include China, Japan or anywhere signifigantly beyond the point we have reached. This decision is finnal and irevocable, any more mention of this or Galatains, will not be tolerated.


Simple enough people, do try and use your common sense and read the first post a bit before you reply.

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Originally Posted by Pharnakes

Anyhow, the discusion is pointless, thers is simply NO way we are going to include China, Japan or anywhere signifigantly beyond the point we have reached. This decision is finnal and irevocable, any more mention of this or Galatains, will not be tolerated.


Simple enough people, do try and use your common sense and read the first post a bit before you reply.

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true true, well said

Galatians.. *sigh* :shame:

ZOMG, OMFG You mentioned t3h Gal@7A1nZz!11!!one!!!!!1111!eleventeen!111!!!!!!!
BanZ0r3d!11!!


Never mind KuKulzA, there will be a realse with Galatains in it.:balloon:

For updated Bosporas and Indo-Greek sigs, go to this link.

This idea probably isn't really viable, since it would involve a lot more work than your current plan, but I think it might be more interesting to move your start date to sometime around 185 B.C., right after the collapse of the Maurya Empire. This would solve the Indo-Greek problem. Instead of the Mauryas, you'd probably have the Sungas and the Satavahanas in India, along with the Indo-Greeks. You'd have a scenario somewhat similar to the one in the west in 272, when EB starts, with a large empire that had recently fallen apart and been divided into several "successor" states, which might make for a better playing experience than having a large section of your map dominated by one of history's largest empires at the height of its power.

You could also probably put the Yuezhi on the map by this point, making them playable. You'd probably have to drop some existing factions for this to work (maybe Kyrene?).

This probably isn't a workable idea, though, as it might reduce the amount of overlap you'd have with EB, creating a lot more work for you.

I think there has been talk of this before, and as you say, it just adds extra work, if we did this,we'd theoretically be creating a mod *that we hope* will be up to EB standards with at the moment just three people. It just isn't viable.

WOOHOO FINALLY !!! EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST !!! :)

Prince

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Originally Posted by Pharnakes

ZOMG, OMFG You mentioned t3h Gal@7A1nZz!11!!one!!!!!1111!eleventeen!111!!!!!!!
BanZ0r3d!11!!


Never mind KuKulzA, there will be a realse with Galatains in it.:balloon:

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:laugh4: all in good humor my friend

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Originally Posted by Zerempil

This idea probably isn't really viable, since it would involve a lot more work than your current plan, but I think it might be more interesting to move your start date to sometime around 185 B.C., right after the collapse of the Maurya Empire. This would solve the Indo-Greek problem. Instead of the Mauryas, you'd probably have the Sungas and the Satavahanas in India, along with the Indo-Greeks. You'd have a scenario somewhat similar to the one in the west in 272, when EB starts, with a large empire that had recently fallen apart and been divided into several "successor" states, which might make for a better playing experience than having a large section of your map dominated by one of history's largest empires at the height of its power.

You could also probably put the Yuezhi on the map by this point, making them playable. You'd probably have to drop some existing factions for this to work (maybe Kyrene?).

This probably isn't a workable idea, though, as it might reduce the amount of overlap you'd have with EB, creating a lot more work for you.

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this would be interesting... but as of now with the timeframe that is official, we have a lot of the work cut-out for us, especially in the western area of the map... your suggestion sounds cool, but consider all the work we'll have to do as a result... accurately portraying the new factions and making everything run correctly, and having the models, scripts, etc. for the mod as is will be hard enough...

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Originally Posted by IndianPrince

WOOHOO FINALLY !!! EAST EAST EAST EAST EAST !!! :)

Prince

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Thanks,we will do our best.


Now about the starting date:We are not changing it.It was changed 3 times before(280 bc,268bc,260 bc),and 260bc is the date that suits this mod best.

Oh and AtB will have events(like reforms) and traits for generals/governons to simulate Mauryan decline.

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This looks like a fascinating mod. I will certainly keep an eye on it. Keep up the good work guys.:2thumbsup:

Thank you.If you guys would only post more suggestions...

Sorry, guys -- I don't have much to contribute at the moment to the development of this mod...but I wanted to say how much I have enjoyed reading through the information presented here! A-history-lesson-in-a-box!

I'm sending lots of positive vibes your way...keep up the amazing work and enthusiasm...:balloon2:

Thanks for all the support guys, and like Malik says, suggestions are more than welcome.

Are you going to develop new units or are you going to borrow other people's work for the Mauryan's ?

Cause right now that would be the smartest thing .

Yes,we are thinking of borrowing units from other mods,since we don't have any modelers or skinners.We will also borrowing chariots with 4 horses from FATW,they will only need a reskin.

personally I feel if we could get custom models for them that'd be ideal... but I'll search for willing modelers...

I would, but I'm an eastern noob. My knowledge of the east between 500 BC and today is limited to fireworks, ninjas, and Toyotas. At least I think they came in that order... :book: