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I just did not want to see 6 people to get lynched.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
So you pick the one of all of those, which is more proven to be an innocent.
(Wait, 5 people are lynched at the same time? I thought one of us was randomly lynched, instead of all five of us.)
:faq:
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Originally Posted by Ze Rules
Yes, but we can never know when you have some devious plan to kill 6 people.. well.. in-game that is. :clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
So you're now basing your vote change on the notion that the person running this game won't follow his own rules?
No.
But it's better to lynch someone ourselves then let game host to randomly pick one.
:inquisitive:
Is my infallibleness being questioned?
*** prepares earthquakes and lightning bolts ***
I agree, but the question remains why you decided to go with Jolt rather than any of the other 5 contenders. You have not yet given such an explanation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun
It seems that Beefy knew I was blocked the previous night, and the number of deaths decreased dramatically. He didn't want to reveal that fact so went for a blinding vote against me and hoped for someone to jump on the bandwaggon, this would suggest he is town. am I right Beefy? or have you got any other reason to vote for me, people doesn't like it when a person votes for another person without giving any reason for their choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by 187Beefyz
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Originally Posted by 187Beefyz
ATPG made himself a murder bait by saying all the stuff he said. Your accusation would also apply to all the other players that played numerous games with APTG, it just doesn't build up...
Frankly I don't think any of the favorites for this round look guilty.
Boudica seems innocent to me, I don't trust Sigurd (who voted for CA) as far as I can throw him, Quintus is helping out, and Beefy would be playing a better game if he was mafia (see Golden Rule) and Jolt doesn't stand out enough in my mind to be lynched.
I think I know who is Manfredo:grin2: but I will wait one more night to be sure.....(if I say...he could change his target and do nothing or be killed by others......:shrug:)
Vote: Woady
I think evidence points to my innocence, than my guiltyness (ie me being blocked the previous phase)
There seems to be better reasons to vote for people than the one I had thus
Unvote Boudica Vote Abstain
After carefully thinking this through I Unvote: Jolt and Vote: Abstain
~:handball:
...
:shrug:
Vote: Abstain
*Steps a distance away from Ibn-Khaldun, lest he be struck by forces of nature*
(I'll) Let Andres decide...
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Tally:
Jolt: 2 (Chaotix27, Yoyoma1910)
187Beefyz: 2 (Lord Winter, CountArach)
CountArach: 2 (Sigurd, Jolt)
Quintus.JC: 2 (187Beefyz, GeneralHankerchief)
shlin28: 1 (woad&fangs)
boudica: 1 (YLC)
woad&fangs: 1 (shlin28)
Voting concluded.
Stand by for execution.
The Scourge of Ephesus - Day 4 - Conclusion
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The Gate of Augustus - 8.30 pm
The tourists started to discuss again.
Arguing, quarrelling, bickering, discussing, they continued and continued but today, they didn't seem capable of reaching a consensus.
At the end of the day, four tourists had the same amount of votes.
The athletic man started to get nervous.
"Come on, this isn't possible. I just have a coin, I can break a tie between two people, but four... How will I do that?"
All of the sudden, Ignoramus stood up.
"I will make the decision!"
The gathered tourists stared at him. It was the first time since very long they heard his voice.
Ignoramus walked forwards and with a dramatical gesture, he turned to the four suspects. All of the sudden, he stopped.
"I, Ignoramus, have decided..."
He took a deep breath and stepped forward.
"That the person to be lynched today is...."
He stopped, took another deep breath and dramatically ran towards the suspects. Unfortunately, he stumbled. He tried to keep his balance, but fell on a rock. His face covered in blood, he stood up again, yelling: "This is proof! This means I was right, but he's using his unnatural powers to stop me. Ha! I will point at him now."
Ignoramus points at a pilar and walks up to it. "It is you! You! You!" And he hit the pillar with his fist. Unfortunately, this caused a piece of marble to fall down, crushing his skull, killing Ignoramus instantly...
The tourists looked at it in agony.
"Okay, okay, enough of this idiocy!" Rythmic said. "I will cast the deciding vote!"
He turned to the four suspects, who were starting to feel rather bored by now. Some of them preferred to be lynched over standing in the sun for an eternity until one of these clowns would finally take a decision.
With a sardonic smile, Rythmic said: "And the winner is..."
All of the sudden, Rythmic stopped.
"My heart..., oh no..."
He fell down, struck by a heart attack. Within 5 minutes he was dead.
The athletic man stood up.
"Ok, enough of this! Bring the four suspects to me. I have used my blade to make 4 straws. Each of you will draw a straw. The person with the short straw will be lynched."
He offered the straws to Jolt.
"You pick first."
Jolt drew the short straw...
"Ok, it seems like you're the one who's going to die... The blade or the gun?"
"Before I go," Jolt started, "I would like to thank my travel agent, for arranging this wonderful holliday. I mean, it all looked so real, the drama, the blood. You guys are fantastic actors. And the scenery! Wonderful! When I asked my travel agent to give me a special treatment, I didn't quite expect this. You there with the blade, can I take one last picture from you? You're so good, man!"
"The gun or the blade, you idiot!"
"Hahahaha! You guys don't know when to stop, do you? Fantastic! F-A-N-T-A-S-T-I-C ! If this were a movie, you'd all get a nomination for..."
The athletic man took the blade and with a blow quick as lightning, he chopped of Jolts' head.
"At last, this day is over. Let us all go to sleep."
The tourists looked at the fresh body.
"Will we burry him?"
"Why would we? Everytime we burry somebody, some madman digs him up again. Threw him somewhere out of sight. That should do."
The tourists all left the scene, looking for a place to sleep.
***
Tally:
Jolt : 2 (Chaotix27, Yoyoma1910) :skull:
187Beefyz : 2 (Lord Winter, CountArach)
CountArach: 2 (Sigurd, Jolt)
Quintus.JC: 2 (187Beefyz, GeneralHankerchief)
shlin28: 1 (woad&fangs)
boudica: 1 (YLC)
woad&fangs: 1 (shlin28)
Abstain : 3 (Ibn-Khaldun, El Diablo, glyphz)
Not voting: 8 (boudica, 'khaan, Rythmic, Tiberius, Quintus.JC, Caius, Seamus, Ignoramus)
Alive (19)
boudica
GeneralHankerchief
seireikhaan
shlin28
Tiberius of the Drake
187Beefyz
Chaotix27
Quintus.JC
YLC
Sigurd
woad&fangs
Yoyoma1910
Ibn-Khaldun
Lord Winter
CountArach
Caius
El Diablo
Glyphz
Seamus Fermanagh
Killed (5) :
777Ares777
TheFlax
White_Eyes :D
Reenk Roink
Askthepizzaguy
Lynched (4) :
TinCow
Tevashzat
FactionHeir
Jolt
WoG/Suicide (2):
Rythmic
Ignoramus
It's now night. PM's please
Night will last for +/- 23 hours 30 minutes.
Actually... I didn't know that. This suggest that I have to read write ups more carefully :shame:Quote:
Originally Posted by Quintus.JC
The writeups seem to indicate I was a scummy character, without justification. As such, I won't be contributing to the discussion anymore.
Good luck, town. At the end of the game, you will see I was town all along. But because of the writeups I refuse to waste your time defending myself or distracting you. If you actually want my opinion, you will have to ask for it. Otherwise I am operating under the assumption that you think I'm guilty, and the night murder numbers will prove otherwise.
If you come around, contact me.
EDIT: Reason not being because I'm upset at being dead or wrongly accused, but because I choose not to be a distraction to town post-mortem. Although the ambiguous/scummy behavior written for me in the writeup does not jive with the information I was given.
Oh well, bad luck on the dices. I suppose I can confirm that I was a townie all along, as was perfectly clear. Anyways, good game.
:laugh4: great write-up Andres.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Our lynches are getting worse by the looks of things :no:
RIP Jolt
Jolt didn't look the type... but who knows, nothing is certain in this game.
Keep this vote in mind, folks, as well as the last moment changes that created such a tie.
There will be no conclusive evidence from this one vote, but placed in context with others and other comments, it could well prove valuable.
G'night.
The Scourge of Ephesus - Night 5 - Conclusion
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The Gate of Augustus - 0.30 am
A man dressed in black wandered around in the vicinity of the Augustus' gate.
He touched his chest and remembered the old wounds.
"I've only just begun to fight!"
A sickening laugh could be heard over the archeological site. When it stopped, there was only silence. Even the wind stopped blowing.
The man ran away.
Quintus.JC couldn't sleep and so, he went to the Prytaneion that night.
"What a mess! What a bloody mess! Why are we all following those idiots? That athletic man and the old guy, only the stars know how much they annoy me! Like they know everything. Nothing is certain here. Nothing! Well, except for one thing, the heat. Why has it to be so damn hot!"
"Are you sure that is the only certainty?"
Quintus.JC turned around and saw a man, lurking in the shadows.
"Did you follow me?"
"So it seems... Or was that a rethorical question?"
"Did it sound like a rethorical question?"
"That certainly is a rethorical question!"
"Stop playing games!"
"But this is a game!"
"No, it's not, it's serious and it's about life and dead!"
"Dead... Everybody has to die, no?
"Well, eventually, yes."
"Aha! That's another certainty! You lied about there not being certainties, except the heat!"
"Are you calling me a liar?"
"Liars need to die!"
The man drew a silenced gun and shot Quintus.JC in the head. The man slowly walked to the body and looked at Quintus.JC surprised expression of unbelieve.
"Don't give me that look. You guys have been lynching each other for far sillier reasons than that."
Two more bullets reduced Quintus.JC face to pulp.
The killer lit a cigarette and slowly walked away.
***
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The Odeion - 2.00 am
A man was hiding in the shadows when he saw his target slowly walking into the Odeion.
He jumped out of his hiding spot.
To his surprise, the target wasn't surprised.
"I'm not so easy to kill, you fool!"
The target kicked the attacker on his right knee. A fist in his face put him down. Another kick on his right hand and the silenced gun was floating through the air.
The target took some distance, allowing the attacker to get up again.
"You're good. Very good," the attacker said, nodding respectfully to his target.
He then quickly turned around, picked up his gun and ran away, yelling:
"But you won't be so lucky next time!"
"Next time... Next time you die..." the target said.
***
The Scourge of Ephesus - Day 5
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The temple of Hadrianus - 8.00 am
The old man stood at the temple of Hadrianus. He seemed agitated and talked fast, making large gestures.
"Another one! I found another body! Quintus.JC! I had a hard time identifying him, since his face was one bloody mess! Things are starting to look bad! When will this nightmare end? We are doomed! I tell you all, we are doomed!"
"Oh shut up, old man," one of the tourists said.
"Please, have some respect for old age," the athletic man intervened. "It seems like our work isn't finished yet. Let's discuss these last events and try to find ourselves a suspect, shall we?"
The tourists started to become angry with the athletic man; they wouldn't accept his authority for much longer.
***
Alive (18)
boudica
GeneralHankerchief
seireikhaan
shlin28
Tiberius of the Drake
187Beefyz
Chaotix27
YLC
Sigurd
woad&fangs
Yoyoma1910
Ibn-Khaldun
Lord Winter
CountArach
Caius
El Diablo
Glyphz
Seamus Fermanagh
Killed (6) :
777Ares777
TheFlax
White_Eyes :D
Reenk Roink
Askthepizzaguy
Quintus.JC
Lynched (4) :
TinCow
Tevashzat
FactionHeir
Jolt
WoG/Suicide (2):
Rythmic
Ignoramus
It's now day. You can start voting. Day will last for +/- 24 hours.
GAH! When will it end? Why do I so accurately guess who is going to die each night? I say :daisy: you to the mafia, and the Vig/SK - stop trying to frame me, I'm not your shield! If I say I want Sigurd dead tonight, what are you going to do? If I say Boudica, what will you do?
*breathes* I see the win in front of me, and oh how bitter does it taste...
Sigurd and boudica blocked this round. Awaiting feedback PM. Leaning towards Sigurd.
-edit- Feedback PM received, nothing out of the ordinary.
Vote: Sigurd
I'll give my case in a few hours.
Are none of you even remotely wondering why GeneralHankerchief remains alive? :inquisitive:
Wait, seriously? :dizzy2:
I was under the assumption that he is who he says he is because people came forward to say that they were indeed blocked when he claimed they were. I don't think that I've ever seen a neutral/scum role be a roleblocker.
Yes...Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I don't dispute that he is the roleblocker. I seriously question his alignment and his continued survival...
And it really wouldn't be out of the ordinary to have a Mafia team with a roleblocker (Mafia need to neutralize pro town and Reenkesque roles...).
Well, I can't really say anything to counter that statement. The PM I received didn't specifically mention my alignment, thus, I'm assuming I'm pro-town. If I'm not, that's the way I've been playing, and that's the way I intend to continue playing.
Timestamp was 18:01, my time:
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Originally Posted by Andres
I've been thinking about it a bit more and am a little more open to your pro-town status GH. Not due to the supposed PM from Andres or anything, just that it seems reasonable that Mafia would let someone like you live to discredit him. It has happened before with detectives, and there would be much less of a risk involved with a role that can't (directly) point our the Mafia.
Still, if you're alive and there's 3 people left... :beam:
I trust GH. and I think its your nature to go after GH Reenk, so I trust you too.
The thought process of the mafia may be that GH is likely to be protected by a Doctor and as such he is staying alive. I am almost certain that we can trust GH - I find the idea of a mafia roleblocker to be unlikely/
Vote: Abstain for now, as we've got virtually no good leads, and I don't want to be WoG bait if Andres ends the phase before I can vote tomorrow.
Vote: Yoyoma
vote: Sigurd
why? Because GH said he had a case against him. If school is cancelled again tomorrow because of life threatening cold(O the joys of Wisconsin) then I'll change my vote. If I have school, I probably won't be able to participate for the rest of the day phase.
Okay, I'll admit it's not much. But it's just a general feeling I've had for a couple of days now combined with a few little signs in the thread.Quote:
why? Because GH said he had a case against him.
First of all his post count is way way low. At the time of this writing, he has 7 total, and two of them were made before the game officially started. There are two types of Sigurd that I remember, although this may be inaccurate/out of date. The first is the Sigurd with the high post count. This thread play means that he's either a dead/confirmed innocent and doing everything he can to screw over the mafia, or the "crazy townie", walking a fine line between safety and lynching and generally surviving for a long time. The second is the Sigurd with a low post count, playing more cautiously. Going by my memory, this is more likely to be mafia.
Now, Sigurd's given a couple of valid reasons for his inactivity, like .Org database failure, timezone differences, and work (including Gameroom duties). That's fine, perfectly acceptable. But stuff doesn't add up.
I'd like to call attention to this post, when he joined in on the bandwagon against me a few rounds back. One of the stated reasons was that I wasn't griping about not being a mafioso anymore, unlike Midgard. At the time, my quick defense of it was "Well, I got a bad guy role in khaan's Spirit Mafia", plus, of course, the Golden Rule game. However, Spirit Mafia got me thinking.
Sigurd has said several times across multiple threads that as part of his duties as Gameroom Assistant Moderator, he had to read every post. He's had this job since September 4th, when Tosa made the announcement. Spirit Mafia, however, ended on September 20th. If Sigurd had to read every post, surely the post-game role reveals and such from Spirit Mafia would be included in that, meaning that he would know perfectly well that I had been a mafioso before.
Now, of course, this line of argument isn't perfect. But I think this potential oversight, combined with the fact that I usually associate a low post count with mafiosery from him, combined with the fact that on both nights I've blocked him there has only been one kill, makes me think that he's a better lynch than anybody for today.
Since we're discussing/comparing activity on and off this game...
Vote: seireikhaanQuote:
Posts:
Caius 6
Lord Winter 5
seireikhaan 5
Tiberius of the Drake 5
@YLC: Do you plan on telling us why you voted for Yoyoma?
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Tally:
Sigurd: 2 (General Hankerchief, woad&fangs)
Yoyoma1910: 1 (YLC)
seireikhaan: 1 (glyphz)
Abstain: Chaotix27)
Interesting case GH, I haven't played with Sigurd enough to know better, but that does seem to fit my experience with him based on Spirit Mafia and Prometheus.
Unvote:Yoyoma
Vote: Sigurd
Also, not a stab at the big guy, but isn't "Gunnar" Nowegian?
glyphz, I'd attribute a lot of khaan's absence to hosting Chicago Soiree.
Probably for those overlooked hours of research I spent on that dang statue.Quote:
Originally Posted by glyphz
I have no idea how to vote at this point.
Indeed. But if I were to pick between duties between host and moderator, I'd guess a moderator's work is 'heftier?'Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
HUGE emphasis on 'guess,' as I know nothing about being one or the other
and certainly not belittling the effort/sacrifices made of hosting and maintaining a (large) mafia game
Besides I have a lot of respect for the moderators (and how they operate and maintain things) here in TheOrg, compared to other TotalWar sites.:rolleyes:
That's an interesting theory GH. I personally shall Vote: Abstain for the moment, until I hear Sigurd's defence.
I hope there are more than two play styles to my name. I try to act a little differently in every game I am in. However, as you point out, my post count is low. I am in more than one game this time. One reason is trying to be the responsible AM. Ya know, to give support to the games and their hosts. This is a new experience for me and I find it is stretching my capability.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I suspected you had a role in this game as did pizzaguy and hewas right. A GH without a role usually makes more noise. I would have unvoted you had I been on.Quote:
I'd like to call attention to this post, when he joined in on the bandwagon against me a few rounds back. One of the stated reasons was that I wasn't griping about not being a mafioso anymore, unlike Midgard. At the time, my quick defense of it was "Well, I got a bad guy role in khaan's Spirit Mafia", plus, of course, the Golden Rule game. However, Spirit Mafia got me thinking.
Sigurd has said several times across multiple threads that as part of his duties as Gameroom Assistant Moderator, he had to read every post. He's had this job since September 4th, when Tosa made the announcement. Spirit Mafia, however, ended on September 20th. If Sigurd had to read every post, surely the post-game role reveals and such from Spirit Mafia would be included in that, meaning that he would know perfectly well that I had been a mafioso before.
I might be a candidate, but you and the rest of us needs to compare what we know to what we learn trough the night reports.Quote:
Now, of course, this line of argument isn't perfect. But I think this potential oversight, combined with the fact that I usually associate a low post count with mafiosery from him, combined with the fact that on both nights I've blocked him there has only been one kill, makes me think that he's a better lynch than anybody for today.
You protected me and Quintus on the first night and me and boudica this night.
On the first night there was only one kill, most likely by one of the mafia. Compared to the other nights we lack two killers; the shadow vigilante and the other mafioso.
This night lacked only the shadow vigilante. There was the murder of Quintus, which would put the suspicion on me for being the other mafia that were blocked on night one.
This last night had two attempts with guns. I suspect that YLC is the vigilante aka the athletic man and that he possibly was attacked this night by the second mafioso. YLC's night action was canceled as he dodged the killer. You mentioned something about a report from Andres and that it said nothing of value. Do you suspect it will say something important if you in fact do investigate a killer?
I will not retaliate against you since your role is by far more valuable for the town than my vanilla townie role. I can do my analysis dead as alive. Being killed by mafia is the best option since I will be more or less confirmed innocent.
I do however question the decision of not even trying to take you out as you are a threat to any bad guy in this game. Are you communicating with players outside this game? Do you discuss with others your choice of blocks? Have you learned that attempts have been made on the players you protect?
We need to figure out if the athletic man/shadow killer, which I think is YLC, is bad for town. Up until now he has killed twice. Does he investigate on the nights he is not killing? that would count for night one and two and five.
I firmly believe that the two gun killers are very much alive as can be seen in last night's report.
Glyphz has a point. Seireikhaan is not active at all in this game and he was inactive, I think, before he started his game.
I get the feeling he is intentionally keeping a low profile. Is he hiding a pro-town role or a mafia role?
vote: seireikhaan
Sigurd, no offense, but I am not the Vigilante/Serial Killer/Athletic Man/Manfredo. I'm a normal bloody townie who has gotten each night kill right is all - most likely by the fact I announce whom I wish dead, and voile, it's done. I suspect of course that if I name you as my next hit wish, you won't die however. In which case, I would gladly opt for boudica, or even Yoyoma.
Yet, you made a veiled threat to Reeink Roink about an ability to end his life via vote or some night ability. Was this just a bluff?Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
I explained that earlier, before Pizzaguy buried it under his nonsense. I made that threat based on two things - a bluff, and to carry it out by drilling him during the night. Oddly, he died that night, and then when I made a statement about Pizzaguy, he too then died, quickly followed by QJC when I said something again. I've asked for either boudica's, Yoyoma's, or your head this night - I wonder who will be picked?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
I havn't been home all day and I have a paper to write now. I'll read the thread tommarow and post my options then. For now:
Vote: Abstain
Care to explain? Is this an ability you have in this game, or am I just not able to interpret what you mean. Drilling someone during the night ... ehm, I get a disturbing picture here - :wiseguy:Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
A bluff?!~:shock:Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
Pretty much pegged you as a vigilante, based on your exchange with Reenk , his demise(back then, you also dodged questions whether you were responsible), & later on Atpg's.
Drilling = Questioning to death Sigurd. Even the insane have to utter something of sense once in awhile. Get your mind out of the gutter, there's only one person I'd do that to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
I am a plain town, and I have never professed to be anything else. But I never really tried to defend myself and dodged all questioning because it would have ended up being a WIFOM me argument. Why the sudden focus on me Sigurd? It's common knowledge I am nothing but a townie, even Reenk knows that.
Sorry it was not common to me...Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
But my question remains unanswered; is the vigilante bad for town?
It seems he got rid of some shady players (no offense RR and Pizza). That Pizza has opted to drop out of the discussion should be some basis to indicate a pro-town alignment for the vigilante. RR will continue to seed doubts and smokescreens if he was a bad guy and would continue to be helpful if he was pro town.
Sorry for the inactivity guys- the combination of hosting the large game, getting back to UNI, frantically trying finish my application for RA, work, and the intimidatingly large amount of white noise I've had to read through in both this game and my own had made actually trying to get something constructive done almost impossible. I won't suicide; that's bad for the town, after all.
Vote: Abstain
-35 F with wind chill.
I'll be here today.
My vote is going to stay on Sigurd for now because there was only 1 kill on the nights that he was blocked. I would like to here more from Boudica. New players make me paranoid.
Actually, I suspect Yoyoma. So, I Vote: Yoyoma
:shifty:Quote:
Originally Posted by woad&fangs
At least you get off today. Someone else still had to go to classes and still has to go to work. :wall:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Not if you're mafia it's not. And then in the next post you start talking about the weather and school!Quote:
Originally Posted by seireikhaan
smells like a windy bluff.
vote: seireikhaan
Responding to Sigurd a bit out of order.
I don't let anybody know who my blocks are going to be for fear of the mafia finding out and acting accordingly. One person last night PM'd me with a choice of suggestion - I was noncommittal. Last night I also did PM one random person with my blocks relatively late in the night phase; with the intent of me dying, they would pass on my selections to you all. If that person said nothing, I would know that they were mafia and strongly hint in the thread as much. That's all I intend to do, for as you well know, I heavily distrust "pro-town" groups.Quote:
I do however question the decision of not even trying to take you out as you are a threat to any bad guy in this game. Are you communicating with players outside this game? Do you discuss with others your choice of blocks? Have you learned that attempts have been made on the players you protect?
Also, Andres told me that if there was an attempt on of my protectees' lives, it would be narrated in the thread.
I doubt it will. I've blocked for five nights now and have almost certainly hit at least one mafioso by now. I think the only clue will be is if there's an attack attempt.Quote:
On the first night there was only one kill, most likely by one of the mafia. Compared to the other nights we lack two killers; the shadow vigilante and the other mafioso.
This night lacked only the shadow vigilante. There was the murder of Quintus, which would put the suspicion on me for being the other mafia that were blocked on night one.
This last night had two attempts with guns. I suspect that YLC is the vigilante aka the athletic man and that he possibly was attacked this night by the second mafioso. YLC's night action was canceled as he dodged the killer. You mentioned something about a report from Andres and that it said nothing of value. Do you suspect it will say something important if you in fact do investigate a killer?
The problem, Sigurd, is that you knew I had been a bad guy in Spirit Mafia and still pushed the line of argument that I wasn't mentioning the fact that I wasn't a mafioso. Midgard was the only time I ever brought this up. So, after finally getting an anti-town role in September, I think that was more than enough to keep me satisfied until January (December, really, because of ATPG's game), especially since I didn't play much between then and now.Quote:
I suspected you had a role in this game as did pizzaguy and hewas right. A GH without a role usually makes more noise. I would have unvoted you had I been on.
Pizzaguy thought I was mafia, not that I just more generally had a role. You agreed with that point, not the more general one. That's why it doesn't all add up.
So many problems with this... :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
I would have loved the "questioning to death"; more material for my role and it would have probably got you going the way of TinCow when he tried to do the same. :2thumbsup: :yes:
Had you not been lynched by the mob, I would have probably gotten rid of you myself if I felt you weren't helpful to my and the towns cause.
It isn't common knowledge that you are anything by the way, and don't purport things I don't believe. I think there is a chance you may be bluffing in some way to get back at me because you somehow thought I was 'unhelpful' and 'confusing' (maybe to you I really was, but I would gladly accept that consequence to carry out my mission). However, I do think you certainly could be a killer or even Mafia. Nothing exonerates you yet, and there is certainly some evidence against you.
The only thing we can be somewhat convinced of is GeneralHankerchief's roleblocking ability, though I still have my doubts (and doubts about my own doubts) on if he is with the town.
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That's funny, because I find your activity from the last round suspicious, as well as your phasing of how you find me suspicious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun
I voted for Jolt because he said that he couldn't be mafia, since he wasn't around on the weekends. As if he couldn't presend his selection of targets. He chose to play this game, already knowing his own schedule, but not knowing his alignment. His argument, while he may have thought it valid, was a fallacy.
You voted, Shlin, because he thought there should be more pressure on you, then Jolt, to ensure who would be lynched. When this came under suspicion, you changed your vote to nothing. You move like a serpent, and you speak with a tongue that is forked.
Now you "suspect Yoyoma." May I ask at least why you would suspect him (which is me, although who it is matters little, in the sense that everyone should be under suspicion)?
Jack-Boot-of-Suspicion:Ibn-Khaldun
This was my first game, and I had no clue what could non-townies do in the beginning (As I was assigned to being a townie).Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoyoma1910
Secondly, I never said I couldn't be the Mafia. I just noted (And it is a fact, thus not an argument)
that I was unavailable during the three supposed mafia kills, day, therefore exempting me from the kills (Since I was unaware that targets could be pre-sent.)
Thirdly, I had no clue I could presend a selection of targets (I suppose since I don't know what is to be a mafioso, and it would be rather odd to start killing left and right without knowing the evidences.) without knowing if I was under suspicion or not (That is wierd, since that way anyone could avoid WoG).
Since I didn't know the "preselection" of targets was a possibility for a mafioso renders my argument quite valid. Even if the argument was not valid for some, it became quite clear in the write-up of my death, that my character thought the whole thing was faked. >_> Clearing any doubts as to what allignment I had.
I believe you, I'm not saying you are a guilty party, however when someone tells me they couldn't be mafia because they don't meet the qualifications, a red light goes off.
No one really knows what other people know. And in law, ignorance is not a plea.
Many players try to make themselves seem more ignorant in order to hide their skills, especially ones who people aren't very familiar with. People do this is life too. It's how pool sharks make their money.
Mmmm... Looks like a open coffin funeral is out of the question.
I have checked the game in question. I must admit I didn't remember it when I made my comments. I stand corrected. I made an erroneous evaluation of your track record.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Yes I agreed with pizzaguy, thinking Andres would have favourized you as mafioso. It had been suficient time since your last comments of not being a mafioso. My brain told me that Andres could have given you a sinister role.Quote:
Pizzaguy thought I was mafia, not that I just more generally had a role. You agreed with that point, not the more general one. That's why it doesn't all add up.
Still... I would hold on to my claim that I can't be mafia. The mafia hits were all in the night report. And no block of a killer were mentioned there. You are lynching an innocent with three votes. I am more suspicious of seireikhann now that he has opted to abstain as if waiting to cast the final vote on me should he tie.
[edit]: Wait.. am I in the wrong about the tally? I have not kept one this round.
Too busy to read through thread now, Vote: Ibn Khadun, for his votes without explainations last round.
No answer, and I probably won't be back before the end of the day phase, so:
vote:Ibn-Khaldun
Shlin, how do you always slip your posts in on me?
Maybe I should think less and type faster, as I spend like 5 minutes just thinking how to phrase 1 :daisy: line.
Anyway, I didn't see Shlin's post before I posted mine.
I don't need to explain myself. (Because I can't prove that Yoyoma is one of the mafia who I think she is)
And when you lynch me you will lynch another townie.
I guess I was wrong about the tally...
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seireikhaan: 3 (boudica, Sigurd, Glyphz)
Sigurd: 3 (GH, YLC, w&f)
Ibn Khadun: 2 (Shlin, Yoyoma)
Abstain: 3 (seireikhaan, Chatorix, Lord Winter)
Not voting: 6 (Tiberius, Beefy, CountA, Caius, El Diablo, Seamus)
You are not exactly in danger of being lynched just yet. But I am and would welcome any theories you might have. Why do you suspect Yoyoma is mafia?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun
After reading through the thread quickly I would probably vote for Ibu-Khaldun if I were alive, but there is no certainty about his aligement. Only one thing is certain, the mafia will surely strike again unless you do something about it.
Voting concluded.
Stand by for execution.
Yeesh, you're all being foolish. For once, you've got actual evidence before you. We've got a confirmed role blocker. The confirmation comes from multiple people receiving night PMs from Andres, which are impossible for GH to fake. Thus, GH's ability to block is confirmed, and his pro-town nature is almost guaranteed (almost, because I never consider anything to be an absolute in mafia).
GH has produced evidence that there were fewer kills on nights when Sigurd, Quintus, and boudica were blocked. This evidence is very decent and is vastly superior to lynching based on posting and voting patterns. Get your heads out of your :daisy: and lynch the people listed above.
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But you are wrong. You should know better. The mafia can opt for not killing and make false clues such as this to slip under the radar. You have used it yourself in other games.
Besides Quintus is already dead.
GH said so himself... He was waiting for the feedback PM before making the vote. When it did not reveal anything he voted me based on gut feeling.
Seireikhaan is probably innocent. Should he survive I would let him live. Nobody plays that balsy if they are mafia.