The Scourge of Ephesus [Concluded]

**GeneralHankerchief** · 01-16-2009, 17:56

Responding to Sigurd a bit out of order.

I do however question the decision of not even trying to take you out as you are a threat to any bad guy in this game. Are you communicating with players outside this game? Do you discuss with others your choice of blocks? Have you learned that attempts have been made on the players you protect?

I don't let anybody know who my blocks are going to be for fear of the mafia finding out and acting accordingly. One person last night PM'd me with a choice of suggestion - I was noncommittal. Last night I also did PM one random person with my blocks relatively late in the night phase; with the intent of me dying, they would pass on my selections to you all. If that person said nothing, I would know that they were mafia and strongly hint in the thread as much. That's all I intend to do, for as you well know, I heavily distrust "pro-town" groups.

Also, Andres told me that if there was an attempt on of my protectees' lives, it would be narrated in the thread.

On the first night there was only one kill, most likely by one of the mafia. Compared to the other nights we lack two killers; the shadow vigilante and the other mafioso.
This night lacked only the shadow vigilante. There was the murder of Quintus, which would put the suspicion on me for being the other mafia that were blocked on night one.
This last night had two attempts with guns. I suspect that YLC is the vigilante aka the athletic man and that he possibly was attacked this night by the second mafioso. YLC's night action was canceled as he dodged the killer. You mentioned something about a report from Andres and that it said nothing of value. Do you suspect it will say something important if you in fact do investigate a killer?

I doubt it will. I've blocked for five nights now and have almost certainly hit at least one mafioso by now. I think the only clue will be is if there's an attack attempt.

I suspected you had a role in this game as did pizzaguy and hewas right. A GH without a role usually makes more noise. I would have unvoted you had I been on.

The problem, Sigurd, is that you knew I had been a bad guy in Spirit Mafia and still pushed the line of argument that I wasn't mentioning the fact that I wasn't a mafioso. Midgard was the only time I ever brought this up. So, after finally getting an anti-town role in September, I think that was more than enough to keep me satisfied until January (December, really, because of ATPG's game), especially since I didn't play much between then and now.

Pizzaguy thought I was mafia, not that I just more generally had a role. You agreed with that point, not the more general one. That's why it doesn't all add up.

**Sigurd** · 01-16-2009, 22:42

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

The problem, Sigurd, is that you knew I had been a bad guy in Spirit Mafia and still pushed the line of argument that I wasn't mentioning the fact that I wasn't a mafioso. Midgard was the only time I ever brought this up. So, after finally getting an anti-town role in September, I think that was more than enough to keep me satisfied until January (December, really, because of ATPG's game), especially since I didn't play much between then and now.

I have checked the game in question. I must admit I didn't remember it when I made my comments. I stand corrected. I made an erroneous evaluation of your track record.

Pizzaguy thought I was mafia, not that I just more generally had a role. You agreed with that point, not the more general one. That's why it doesn't all add up.

Yes I agreed with pizzaguy, thinking Andres would have favourized you as mafioso. It had been suficient time since your last comments of not being a mafioso. My brain told me that Andres could have given you a sinister role.

Still... I would hold on to my claim that I can't be mafia. The mafia hits were all in the night report. And no block of a killer were mentioned there. You are lynching an innocent with three votes. I am more suspicious of seireikhann now that he has opted to abstain as if waiting to cast the final vote on me should he tie.

[edit]: Wait.. am I in the wrong about the tally? I have not kept one this round.

**shlin28** · 01-16-2009, 22:44

Too busy to read through thread now, Vote: Ibn Khadun, for his votes without explainations last round.

**Yoyoma1910** · 01-16-2009, 22:46

No answer, and I probably won't be back before the end of the day phase, so:

vote:Ibn-Khaldun

**Yoyoma1910** · 01-16-2009, 22:49

Shlin, how do you always slip your posts in on me?

Maybe I should think less and type faster, as I spend like 5 minutes just thinking how to phrase 1

line.

Anyway, I didn't see Shlin's post before I posted mine.

**Ibn-Khaldun** · 01-16-2009, 22:50

I don't need to explain myself. (Because I can't prove that Yoyoma is one of the mafia who I think she is)

And when you lynch me you will lynch another townie.

**Sigurd** · 01-16-2009, 22:59

I guess I was wrong about the tally...

tally:
seireikhaan: 3 (boudica, Sigurd, Glyphz)
Sigurd: 3 (GH, YLC, w&f)

Ibn Khadun: 2 (Shlin, Yoyoma)
Abstain: 3 (seireikhaan, Chatorix, Lord Winter)

Not voting: 6 (Tiberius, Beefy, CountA, Caius, El Diablo, Seamus)

**Sigurd** · 01-16-2009, 23:01

Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun

I don't need to explain myself. (Because I can't prove that Yoyoma is one of the mafia who I think she is)

And when you lynch me you will lynch another townie.

You are not exactly in danger of being lynched just yet. But I am and would welcome any theories you might have. Why do you suspect Yoyoma is mafia?

**Quintus.JC** · 01-16-2009, 23:16

After reading through the thread quickly I would probably vote for Ibu-Khaldun if I were alive, but there is no certainty about his aligement. Only one thing is certain, the mafia will surely strike again unless you do something about it.

**Andres** · 01-16-2009, 23:31

Voting concluded.

Stand by for execution.

**Ibn-Khaldun** · 01-17-2009, 00:19

Now.. let's see..

Night 1:
Killed: 777Ares777

Could be totally random kill.

Day 1:
Lynched: TinCow : 7 (GH, shlin28, Reenk Roink, White_Eyes:D, Tevashzat, FactionHeir, Ignoramus)
Tevashzat : 6 (Quintus.JC, YLC, Sigurd, Yoyoma, TinCow, Seamus Fermanagh)

He got 'bandwagonned'?? I doubt it.

Night 2:
Killed: No kills

Mafia investigating/recruiting like someone proposed??

Day 2:
Lynched: Tevashzat : 8 (Reenk Roink, White_Eyes:D, YLC, Sigurd, Yoyoma1910, Ibn-Khaldun, TheFlax, glyphz)

The 'Runner-up' of previous lynch gets .. lynched. I have to admit that I voted only against him because I had no time to fully read all the posts and he seemed like his guilty. I think I was wrong.
Yoyoma voted for Teva last time and this time he gets lynched. Coincident?? I don't think so.

Night 3:
Killed: TheFlax, Reenk Roink, White_Eyes :D

Mafia probably had the chance to kill 3 certain townies and they used it.

Day3:
Lynched: FactionHeir : 2 (boudica, shlin28)

Jolt : 1 (Yoyoma1910)

You see who gets her vote and I wonder who was lynched the next day??

Night 4:
Killed: Askthepizzaguy

Vigilante kill as someone suggested. I think I agree. I also think this was a wrong move IF Vigilante killed him.

Day 4:
Lynched: Jolt : 2 (Chaotix27, Yoyoma1910)

No way, Jolt is lynched?? Coincident??

Night 5:
Killed: Quintus.JC

Quiet night with only one kill.

Day: 5
Lynched: Sigurd: 3 (GH, YLC, w&f)
Ibn Khadun: 2 (Shlin, Yoyoma)

Since I got her vote I guess I will die Day 6???
OR I get killed by mafia this night because I pissed off the wrong person??

Anyway, to me she seems to be the 'original' mafia who recruited some people to help lynch people who could reveal her. In the same time she is reducing townies in night too.
Those 'grave diggers' or what ever they are could have a secondary objective to justify their actions.