Anybody enjoying Game of Thrones? (HBO TV series)

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So, I sat and read the books in a craze. I still think this show is one of the best literary adaptations ever, with the absolute exception of Russian productions...

What I dislike is melodramatization...

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I don't like the faithful Shae character invented for the show. Not a single bit. I don't like Edric Storm cut out and the smith Gendry magnified. Melisandre out to get him amongst the myriad of foes etc. :no:

I would rather have Missandei as the 8 yo child than the brown chick. We have enough meat in the show.:

Still, all of that weigh little against my enthusiasm :2thumbsup:

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I refuse to believe that Jon is dead, be it just a denial... I don't think Stannis is dead either, the bastard is merely bluffing.

Expectedly we'll have some action on Skagos with Davos and Rickon.

I'm curious about what Danny & Drogon will do with the renegade Khal. A bbq would be in order but maybe they can be put to some use.

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About the excess of meat, hey, it's HBO :tongue:

Also welcome to the fold. Now you can wait with the rest of us for GRRM to finish writing the next book and keep your fingers crossed that he does it in this decade. :clown:

First trailer for Season 4. While I have been unable to enjoy it fully due to my :daisy: connection, no reason others should wait;
Also first glimpse of the Red Viper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZY43QSx3Fk

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Originally Posted by rajpoot

First trailer for Season 4. While I have been unable to enjoy it fully due to my :daisy: connection, no reason others should wait;

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It is mostly that youtube buffering change, where it only downloads a pre-set amount then it 'stops' and takes a little while for it to start again. So when I load, I get few seconds all perfect then it stops to buffer, then it decides to download a few more seconds, then it starts again, till the buffer hit that point in time ahead, then stops, then the video catches up and hits that point before it decides to continue to download again.

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Originally Posted by Tiaexz

It is mostly that youtube buffering change, where it only downloads a pre-set amount then it 'stops' and takes a little while for it to start again. So when I load, I get few seconds all perfect then it stops to buffer, then it decides to download a few more seconds, then it starts again, till the buffer hit that point in time ahead, then stops, then the video catches up and hits that point before it decides to continue to download again.

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It isn't a problem if you have a fast internet connection, so yeah. It could be because of shit connection.

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Originally Posted by Sp4

It isn't a problem if you have a fast internet connection, so yeah. It could be because of shit connection.

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You mean, 50mb/s is not fast?

Problem is probably the connection being too fast, as it takes less than a second to download to the 'buffer halt' mark for youtube, which stalls the downloading. It is a thing they implemented to 'save money' but it does cause a lot of inconvenience for the user.

Because you cannot simply 'pause' to let a clip or movie fully download either, since it only downloads to a certain point.

Actually my connection is only 512 Kbps, and that is on good days. Youtube might have problems but mine rise from my ISP. :sweatdrop:
And the worst part is that's the best non-commercial connection I can get.

I think we should set up a betting pool on whether GRRM actually writes the last two books before the screenwriters get there.

Cant wait for the season 4 to begin..

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I think we should set up a betting pool on whether GRRM actually writes the last two books before the screenwriters get there.

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I remember seeing a detailed analysis as to how he would have 7-8 years tops to finish the remaining two books if he even wants to just finish with the series. Does not look good for him considering the track record.
Then again I really don't see him allowing the TV series to finish the story before him. It will be bad for business.

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I remember seeing a detailed analysis as to how he would have 7-8 years tops to finish the remaining two books if he even wants to just finish with the series. Does not look good for him considering the track record.
Then again I really don't see him allowing the TV series to finish the story before him. It will be bad for business.

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I vaguel recall GRRM having stated that if he dies before he finishes the books, nobody will be allowed to continue working on the books after his demise, but that the people who are making the tv series know the plotlines and will continue making seasons until the story is finished.

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I vaguel recall GRRM having stated that if he dies before he finishes the books, nobody will be allowed to continue working on the books after his demise, but that the people who are making the tv series know the plotlines and will continue making seasons until the story is finished.

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I remember reading that too. in fact IIRC he said that he had already told the important plot points of the ending he had in mind to the top people making the TV series. But I don't think he will let them do that as long as he lives. GRRM is kind of touchy about his work. Look at how he opposes fanfic.

I know that writers cannot concentrate all their time on a series but it does concern me that GRRM has all of these side projects, seemingly leaving the main one by the wayside for the time being.

I am still waiting for Lord Tyrell to be cast by @Kagemusha though, I think he re-enacted the role well. Not seen him at all in the series as of yet.

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I think we should set up a betting pool on whether GRRM actually writes the last two books before the screenwriters get there.

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We should be able to generate a timeline. Season 4 is going to cover the 2nd half of ASoS, and probably a taste of AFfC. The TV series will probably maintain chronological pacing, so I assume Seasons 5 and 6 will cover AFfC and ADwD intermixed. Depending on pacing, I imagine Season 7 will finish AFfC and ADwD and end with the cliffhangers near the start of TWoW. I'm guessing The Winds of Winter gets published in late 2015-early 2016, which will be before the TV series gets there. But I don't see it happening for A Dream of Spring. The time between novels has grown after each one, it took 6 years to get ADwD out, so unless it's easier to clean up the loose ends I can't see the 7th book being out before a Season 9 premiere (spring 2019, which I think would be the latest they could push the storyline out).

@Tiaexz. Mace has been cast: http://winteriscoming.net/2013/07/ro...s-mace-tyrell/

But that gentleman is far too pretty to re- enact yours truly. :clown: In any case i am happy to see more Tyrell´s during season 4 as we never got any insight from them in the books. :yes:

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I know that writers cannot concentrate all their time on a series but it does concern me that GRRM has all of these side projects, seemingly leaving the main one by the wayside for the time being.

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It gives the impression that he's bored with his own work. How can he no like it and how can he possibly not be craving for more?

Has he ever read his own books?

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It gives the impression that he's bored with his own work. How can he no like it and how can he possibly not be craving for more?

Has he ever read his own books?

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Considering he knows how it ends, Im not surprised. This series has been going on for almost 2 decades, it would be hard not to be bored at least a little. Still distressing though that hes not devoting 100% of his time to the series, he also directs a number of the episodes so that is a distraction.

I believe that it has become more work and less fun for Martin to continue the series. There are so many boundaries because of the existing books, so that his creativity is somewhat limited. He might know how the story ends, but getting there with new ideas within the frame of the story so far, could be more of a grind for him.
I hope I'm wrong, however...

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I believe that it has become more work and less fun for Martin to continue the series. There are so many boundaries because of the existing books, so that his creativity is somewhat limited. He might know how the story ends, but getting there with new ideas within the frame of the story so far, could be more of a grind for him.
I hope I'm wrong, however...

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I for one would be fine if he does not put in any new ideas but just ties up the lose ends. It should not be very hard to do as long as he has planned ahead (which I am certain a writer of his caliber must have) and does not write himself into corners.
Also while it might be his writing style to digress from what appears to be the main story and going off on tangents, at this point he should probably think of trimming things down and keeping them more 'to-the-point'. As much as I enjoy obscure characters and lore, I doubt he will be able to wrap them all up properly. For instance I doubt we shall ever hear of the Lord Godric Borell of the Sisters again and yet GRRM devoted more than a few pages to him. That bit did little in the sense of character development or story progression. Just gave us some nice back lore about Ned Stark and his cool one liners. At this point though all that can be done away with. He really needs to start trimming down on these minor characters and tying up lose ends.

We know his backup ending. Lets hope it does not come to that!

I think most of us would rather have anything at all but that.

I don’t think too many people liked it when C.S. Lewis ended the world with Narnia. They wouldn’t much like the Red Comet wiping out this world any better.

I'm amazed he's still working on it at all. Didn't he mention in one of the interviews people were threatening him with violence if he didn't finish the next book by christmas? I mean, I know the internet can be a ridiculous place for a grown-up, but I'm amazed he didn't just write in SARS or something and wiped everyone out.

The next book is out on September this year.

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Originally Posted by Myth

The next book is out on September this year.

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That is awesome news if he manages to stick to schedule.
Also not to nitpick but I would really appreciate it if you could tell me where you read this.

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That is awesome news if he manages to stick to schedule.
Also not to nitpick but I would really appreciate it if you could tell me where you read this.

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I don't care where he found that information. From now on, Myth is personally responsible for that book to appear in September 2014. If necessary, he'll have to write it himself :whip:

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I demand a source or I will burn you at the stake!

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Just been rewatching S2 and S3 in preparation for april and S4.

All of the books are simply amazing and the TV show is just as good I think.

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​I would rather have Missandei as the 8 yo child than the brown chick. We have enough meat in the show.

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Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre

​We have enough meat in the show.

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There is never enough meat! ~D

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There is never enough meat! ~D

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I seem to recall there being a lot more clam bakes than sausage fests on the show, but South Park does make a decent point.

http://youtu.be/e-ryQPZuYSQ

season 4 is coming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5iS3tULXMQ

Great stuff! Cant wait for the new season. Thanks for posting this!:yes:

Second trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2ZNaLQD60Y

Trailer #3: Secrets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIASaUUwklk

Looking at the trailers, I think they are going to yada-yada a fair amount of A Feast For Crows/Dance with Dragons and keep with the main character story lines (those still alive that is :rolleyes:). I imagine they will cut the Kingsmoot/Greyjoy succession, Asha/Yara is already off the book storyline anyway and they can probably shoehorn in the Iron fleet with a more compact role. I don't expect to see Quentyn Martell at all either. So my revised timeline estimation is shorter by at least a season and a half.

Edit-> And no, I don't work for Grantland.

Trailer #4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1Y_qhzxn2c

Decided to rewatch the season 1 in anticipation. Littlefinger is such a loveable bastard.

Great first episode. The opening of the episode was probably the most poignant opening of all the seasons till date.
The new Daario is much more fitting than the clean shaved dude from last season. Oberyn is not what I imagined though. Also it's not cool that they made the Thenns into cannibals. Anyone think this is going to have an effect on the Rickon storyline later on?
It was also good to see Janos Slynt again.

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Because it means we will see him lose his head, and that is one of my favourite bits from the books till now.

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Great first episode. The opening of the episode was probably the most poignant opening of all the seasons till date.
The new Daario is much more fitting than the clean shaved dude from last season. Oberyn is not what I imagined though. Also it's not cool that they made the Thenns into cannibals. Anyone think this is going to have an effect on the Rickon storyline later on?
It was also good to see Janos Slynt again.

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Because it means we will see him lose his head, and that is one of my favourite bits from the books till now.

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I thought they did a good job with Oberyn, he came off as a passionate, unpredictable man with a vendetta, which is exactly what he is in the book. He's going to be a pain in Lannister posteriors this season.

Not too worried about the Thenns, I think they might be trimming the storyline this way.

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Skagos is supposedly inhabited by cannibals, so it fits. Alys might not be too happy about it though...

They kept Thorne at the Wall as acting commander and Slynt is there already, so the leadership for the coming attack is already off the book. I suppose the Night's Watch election is going to be a lot different.

Bronn continues to own it, not sure why they gave Pod the new haircut. The Arya/Sandor storyline is also fun, somehow I don't think Ayra is going to Braavos.

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The Arya/Sandor storyline is also fun, somehow I don't think Ayra is going to Braavos.

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Hmm, the trailers do show the 'Titan of Bravos' though... Then again, isn't Sandor supposed to be wounded with the wound starting to fester later on?

Does anyone know why the change of actor for the character Daario Naharis -


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Supposedly the first actor wanted more money, and they didnt have the budget for it so he quit. Hence the new actor.

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Hmm, the trailers do show the 'Titan of Bravos' though... Then again, isn't Sandor supposed to be wounded with the wound starting to fester later on?

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Forgot about the Titan. In the book, the fight with Polliver a) got Ayra Needle back and b) got Sandor injured. He looked fine riding away, but it did look like he took one in the back before he got knocked down in the fight.

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Does anyone know why the change of actor for the character Daario Naharis -

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In other casting news, the Mountain gets a new face yet again (some ginormous Norwegian guy), and the guy playing Ilyn Payne got cancer so he's written out apparently (from the trailers looks like Bronn becomes Jamie's sparring partner).

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Does anyone know why the change of actor for the character Daario Naharis -

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In the books Daario sports a flamboyant blue beard, and is an experienced mercenary with quite a few years behind him, more akin in age to Jorah Mormont than to Danaerys.
IMO the dude they picked now is much more fitting than the one they picked last season. He looked a little....weird...to me. Too effeminate for some reason. Maybe the lips. I don't know.

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Supposedly the first actor wanted more money, and they didnt have the budget for it so he quit. Hence the new actor.

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No, the original actor got the chance to replace Jason Statham in "Transporter 4" http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014...ame-of-thrones

I thought Michiel Huisman was great on Treme. Let's hope he's as good here as he was there.

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No, the original actor got the chance to replace Jason Statham in "Transporter 4" http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014...ame-of-thrones

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No, the original actor got the chance to replace Jason Statham in "Transporter 4" http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014...ame-of-thrones

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Aye, you are right, I stand corrected.

Well........

Ep 2 was interesting.



I liked the ending a LOT.

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Well........

Ep 2 was interesting.



I liked the ending a LOT.

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'Twas good. Can't wait for some of the other's to go the same way!

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'Twas good. Can't wait for some of the other's to go the same way!

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The next one with such an awesome ending will probably involve a lavatory and a crossbow. :wiseguy:

It's weird, I saw episode 1 yesterday and will watch episode 2 tomorrow, but I really didn't expect this particular event to happen already; I anticipated it around episode 4. Huh.

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It's weird, I saw episode 1 yesterday and will watch episode 2 tomorrow, but I really didn't expect this particular event to happen already; I anticipated it around episode 4. Huh.

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I thought it came early as well, but this would reinforce the notion that they plan on accelerating through the next couple of books.

All hail King Tommen, first of his name! :crown:

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The Deaths can be rather gruesome though...

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The Deaths can be rather gruesome though...

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They overdid the makeup. For a moment there I actually felt sorry for him.

Also BTW Bronn is turning out to be one of the most awesome characters in the show.
Loved the chat between Jamie/Loras and Oberyn/Cersei/Tywin, he sure can hold his own.
And does anyone else think the Shae story arc might be different from the books?

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She actually seems to love Tyrion here. I think she might end up dying early

Double post. Sorry.

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The ending to the fourth episode. Stuff that hasn't even been explicitly mentioned in the books iirc.

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so the others are clearly more like humans than let on in the books. The dude who picks up the baby and transforms it looks like Darth Maul without the colourful face. Maybe they're just humans who have turned to worshiping the great other (whoever that is), like melisandre says.

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The North storyline is now spoiler-proof.

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That different?

Latest episode wasn't all that great, the CGI with the flag was particularly bad.

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That different?

Latest episode wasn't all that great, the CGI with the flag was particularly bad.

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Yeah, B never went to C in the books.
There are a couple of characters involved in the books not brought in with B.
The books were very sketchy on Whitewalkers, they don't even say why they want babies but people 'guessed'.

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That different?

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I'm assuming they are just adding in stuff to keep the Bran storyline visible. The mutineers at Craster's don't play a part in the books, they just hang out for a while then get killed (by a character that has already been written out of the show). Jon stays at the Wall, Ghost eventually just shows back up, and Locke isn't in the books (he's been a fill-in for a mercenary captain in Jaime's storyline). Bran just trudges through snow for months until he reaches his anointed destination. The White Walker/baby thing isn't in the books (no referential POV), I think this is all based on talks with Martin about their origins.

The Bran time line is messed up, all the stuff going on elsewhere is from the third Book, while his adventures are coming from the fifth. This is probably due to the fact that walking through snow for days makes for poor ratings, but it looks like they are dragging Jon's line off to mesh. No idea what they are going to do.

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The episode names suggest Tommen gets crowned ep5, maybe Stoneheart in ep6, lots of Littlefinger in ep7, Oberyn v Clegane in ep8, battle for the wall in ep9, and Tywin's Elvis impersonation ep10. Up north, no clue. Daenerys's timing is also a little accelerated, maybe she rides Drogon in ep10.

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Personally I think that Tywin's Elvis impersonation will be at the end of episode 9. Bad things tend to happen in the 9th episodes...

Or good depending on who you're rooting for.

Two big ones in one season. Will make Ned Stark and the first season look like a joke.

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I honestly thought they will save Tywin till the next season. Also isn't the first time Daenerys rides Drogon after he crashes the games in Daznak's pit? Like way near the end of the fifth book... :dizzy2:

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I honestly thought they will save Tywin till the next season. Also isn't the first time Daenerys rides Drogon after he crashes the games in Daznak's pit? Like way near the end of the fifth book... :dizzy2:

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Yes.

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I honestly thought they will save Tywin till the next season. Also isn't the first time Daenerys rides Drogon after he crashes the games in Daznak's pit? Like way near the end of the fifth book... :dizzy2:

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Yes, it's pretty far ahead, but now that she has Meereen how are they going to wrap up her season? Nothing big happens between the two events. I believe they are going to bypass the Iron Islands story, we don't know how Euron and Victarion fit in yet so they can paste that in later if it has any major effect. Asha/Yara is already searching for Theon, and Theon is already heading for Moat Caitlin, they are moving quickly there. I'm guessing the Dorne storyline will also be trimmed as much as possible, Quentyn's quest is wasted minutes and the Arianne plot doesn't really have any effect on the existing story yet (I want Hotah though!). Next season will probably have Tyrion/Aegon, Sam at the Citadel, Jaime to the riverlands (more Blackfish please), Cersei's fall (and walk), Varys' return, Arya's training, Bran with Bloodraven, and the Slaver's Bay battle. I have no idea how the Jon/Stannis/Wall situation is going to fall out with this last episode.

Actually Dany's story can be stretched a bit by

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putting in that one Wise Master she gets married to and spending some time on developing her romance with Daario. I can wager they will spend a lot of time showing her governing the city, all the assassinations that start taking place in Meeren before she marries and how her dragons will grow more vicious and get out of hand. I'm thinking her story arc this season will end with her dismissing Jorah Mormont. And the next with her getting married.

There's a rumour going around that the person from the end of episode 4, the one who changes the baby is none other than the

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Night King. Whoever that is, he is certainly not the same as the other Others that we have seen to date, and neither are the people standing with him in the background. For one they all actually appear to be wearing black, that kind of gives weight to the theory that they were once from the Night's Watch

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There's a rumour going around that the person from the end of episode 4, the one who changes the baby is none other than the

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Night King. Whoever that is, he is certainly not the same as the other Others that we have seen to date, and neither are the people standing with him in the background. For one they all actually appear to be wearing black, that kind of gives weight to the theory that they were once from the Night's Watch

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It is in the books, regarded with certain myths. If you want to go searching for more about it.

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The Night's King was a nights watchman who married a female wight he found beyond the wall and used her magic to enslave the nightswatch, took over the gift and declared himself king, before being killed off by the combined efforts of the Starks and wildlings. The problem with the idea that he is the same leader of the wights we saw is that he appeared after the long night meaning the wights had been around long before he showed up and he was quite explicably said to have been killed.

Also he looks like this:Attachment 12836

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Cersei's fall (and walk)

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I CANNOT WAIT FOR THAT.

..Ahem. Sorry got a bit excited there. Not read the books, but I've twice accidentally received spoilers, (one for the Red Wedding saw a map with all the characters' deaths and one for the whole latrine, Tyrion across the sea, Cersei gets her just deserts).

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Ah, the return of the Arryns, what joy. I swear I haven't wanted to skip a scene more than I have thiers, at least the previous ones had tyrion to counter their... foibles.

Strange that the least active faction comes accross as the less likable than even the lannisters.

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Ah, the return of the Arryns, what joy. I swear I haven't wanted to skip a scene more than I have thiers, at least the previous ones had tyrion to counter their... foibles.

Strange that the least active faction comes accross as the less likable than even the lannisters.

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Not sure why you feel this way, the Petr/Lysa "love story" is the best (don't put your daisy in crazy!).

I guess the Craster's detour was just a way to a) get Ghost back to Jon, b) put a little action into the Wall storyline before the battle, c) give Bran a "decision" scene, and d) get rid of Locke. Normal service resumed. :shrug:

Poor Hodor :sad:

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Poor Hodor :sad:

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Hodor's a bad:daisy:
At least with Bran inside him.
You know what I mean.

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Hodor's a bad:daisy:
At least with Bran inside him.
You know what I mean.

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I'll put it this way.

You suddenly lose control of your body, being forced to kill someone with your barehands against your will, your upbringing is a gentle giant who wouldn't even hurt a fly, and there in your hands bloodstained with a mans corpse splayed infront of you.. I really felt for the guy. :sad:

Good episode. In his confession I was hoping Tyrion would bring up making the bald man cry into Cersei's turtle stew, but a great scene nonetheless.

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I don't think Stannis is going to the Wall. The Titan got his screentime though, so I will again predict Ayra is not going to Braavos either. Whatever role the Iron Bank plays, I'm guessing they will tie it into Stannis directly now, the Night's Watch deal with the Bank and the Wildlings up North will probably be dropped from the story. And Daenerys will ride Drogon in ep 10. :yes:

Seems weird they are cutting out those large chunks though. No wonder it feels like they are racing to the end of the books.