Anybody enjoying Game of Thrones? (HBO TV series)

[Mouzafphaerre]

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So, I sat and read the books in a craze. I still think this show is one of the best literary adaptations ever, with the absolute exception of Russian productions...

What I dislike is melodramatization...

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I don't like the faithful Shae character invented for the show. Not a single bit. I don't like Edric Storm cut out and the smith Gendry magnified. Melisandre out to get him amongst the myriad of foes etc.

I would rather have Missandei as the 8 yo child than the brown chick. We have enough meat in the show.:

Still, all of that weigh little against my enthusiasm

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I refuse to believe that Jon is dead, be it just a denial... I don't think Stannis is dead either, the bastard is merely bluffing.

Expectedly we'll have some action on Skagos with Davos and Rickon.

I'm curious about what Danny & Drogon will do with the renegade Khal. A bbq would be in order but maybe they can be put to some use.

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[rajpoot]

About the excess of meat, hey, it's HBO

Also welcome to the fold. Now you can wait with the rest of us for GRRM to finish writing the next book and keep your fingers crossed that he does it in this decade.

[rajpoot]

First trailer for Season 4. While I have been unable to enjoy it fully due to my connection, no reason others should wait;
Also first glimpse of the Red Viper.

[Beskar]

First trailer for Season 4. While I have been unable to enjoy it fully due to my connection, no reason others should wait;

It is mostly that youtube buffering change, where it only downloads a pre-set amount then it 'stops' and takes a little while for it to start again. So when I load, I get few seconds all perfect then it stops to buffer, then it decides to download a few more seconds, then it starts again, till the buffer hit that point in time ahead, then stops, then the video catches up and hits that point before it decides to continue to download again.

[Sp4]

It is mostly that youtube buffering change, where it only downloads a pre-set amount then it 'stops' and takes a little while for it to start again. So when I load, I get few seconds all perfect then it stops to buffer, then it decides to download a few more seconds, then it starts again, till the buffer hit that point in time ahead, then stops, then the video catches up and hits that point before it decides to continue to download again.

It isn't a problem if you have a fast internet connection, so yeah. It could be because of shit connection.

[Beskar]

It isn't a problem if you have a fast internet connection, so yeah. It could be because of shit connection.

You mean, 50mb/s is not fast?

Problem is probably the connection being too fast, as it takes less than a second to download to the 'buffer halt' mark for youtube, which stalls the downloading. It is a thing they implemented to 'save money' but it does cause a lot of inconvenience for the user.

Because you cannot simply 'pause' to let a clip or movie fully download either, since it only downloads to a certain point.

[rajpoot]

Actually my connection is only 512 Kbps, and that is on good days. Youtube might have problems but mine rise from my ISP.
And the worst part is that's the best non-commercial connection I can get.

[Fisherking]

I think we should set up a betting pool on whether GRRM actually writes the last two books before the screenwriters get there.

[Kagemusha]

Cant wait for the season 4 to begin..

[rajpoot]

I think we should set up a betting pool on whether GRRM actually writes the last two books before the screenwriters get there.

I remember seeing a detailed analysis as to how he would have 7-8 years tops to finish the remaining two books if he even wants to just finish with the series. Does not look good for him considering the track record.
Then again I really don't see him allowing the TV series to finish the story before him. It will be bad for business.

[Andres]

I remember seeing a detailed analysis as to how he would have 7-8 years tops to finish the remaining two books if he even wants to just finish with the series. Does not look good for him considering the track record.
Then again I really don't see him allowing the TV series to finish the story before him. It will be bad for business.

I vaguel recall GRRM having stated that if he dies before he finishes the books, nobody will be allowed to continue working on the books after his demise, but that the people who are making the tv series know the plotlines and will continue making seasons until the story is finished.

[rajpoot]

I vaguel recall GRRM having stated that if he dies before he finishes the books, nobody will be allowed to continue working on the books after his demise, but that the people who are making the tv series know the plotlines and will continue making seasons until the story is finished.

I remember reading that too. in fact IIRC he said that he had already told the important plot points of the ending he had in mind to the top people making the TV series. But I don't think he will let them do that as long as he lives. GRRM is kind of touchy about his work. Look at how he opposes fanfic.

[Hooahguy]

I know that writers cannot concentrate all their time on a series but it does concern me that GRRM has all of these side projects, seemingly leaving the main one by the wayside for the time being.

[Beskar]

I am still waiting for Lord Tyrell to be cast by @Kagemusha though, I think he re-enacted the role well. Not seen him at all in the series as of yet.

[drone]

I think we should set up a betting pool on whether GRRM actually writes the last two books before the screenwriters get there.

We should be able to generate a timeline. Season 4 is going to cover the 2nd half of ASoS, and probably a taste of AFfC. The TV series will probably maintain chronological pacing, so I assume Seasons 5 and 6 will cover AFfC and ADwD intermixed. Depending on pacing, I imagine Season 7 will finish AFfC and ADwD and end with the cliffhangers near the start of TWoW. I'm guessing The Winds of Winter gets published in late 2015-early 2016, which will be before the TV series gets there. But I don't see it happening for A Dream of Spring. The time between novels has grown after each one, it took 6 years to get ADwD out, so unless it's easier to clean up the loose ends I can't see the 7th book being out before a Season 9 premiere (spring 2019, which I think would be the latest they could push the storyline out).

[Kagemusha]

@Tiaexz. Mace has been cast: http://winteriscoming.net/2013/07/ro...s-mace-tyrell/

But that gentleman is far too pretty to re- enact yours truly. In any case i am happy to see more Tyrell´s during season 4 as we never got any insight from them in the books.

[Andres]

I know that writers cannot concentrate all their time on a series but it does concern me that GRRM has all of these side projects, seemingly leaving the main one by the wayside for the time being.

It gives the impression that he's bored with his own work. How can he no like it and how can he possibly not be craving for more?

Has he ever read his own books?

[Hooahguy]

It gives the impression that he's bored with his own work. How can he no like it and how can he possibly not be craving for more?

Has he ever read his own books?

Considering he knows how it ends, Im not surprised. This series has been going on for almost 2 decades, it would be hard not to be bored at least a little. Still distressing though that hes not devoting 100% of his time to the series, he also directs a number of the episodes so that is a distraction.

[Neric]

I believe that it has become more work and less fun for Martin to continue the series. There are so many boundaries because of the existing books, so that his creativity is somewhat limited. He might know how the story ends, but getting there with new ideas within the frame of the story so far, could be more of a grind for him.
I hope I'm wrong, however...

[rajpoot]

I believe that it has become more work and less fun for Martin to continue the series. There are so many boundaries because of the existing books, so that his creativity is somewhat limited. He might know how the story ends, but getting there with new ideas within the frame of the story so far, could be more of a grind for him.
I hope I'm wrong, however...

I for one would be fine if he does not put in any new ideas but just ties up the lose ends. It should not be very hard to do as long as he has planned ahead (which I am certain a writer of his caliber must have) and does not write himself into corners.
Also while it might be his writing style to digress from what appears to be the main story and going off on tangents, at this point he should probably think of trimming things down and keeping them more 'to-the-point'. As much as I enjoy obscure characters and lore, I doubt he will be able to wrap them all up properly. For instance I doubt we shall ever hear of the Lord Godric Borell of the Sisters again and yet GRRM devoted more than a few pages to him. That bit did little in the sense of character development or story progression. Just gave us some nice back lore about Ned Stark and his cool one liners. At this point though all that can be done away with. He really needs to start trimming down on these minor characters and tying up lose ends.

[Fisherking]

We know his backup ending. Lets hope it does not come to that!

I think most of us would rather have anything at all but that.

I don’t think too many people liked it when C.S. Lewis ended the world with Narnia. They wouldn’t much like the Red Comet wiping out this world any better.

[SwordsMaster]

I'm amazed he's still working on it at all. Didn't he mention in one of the interviews people were threatening him with violence if he didn't finish the next book by christmas? I mean, I know the internet can be a ridiculous place for a grown-up, but I'm amazed he didn't just write in SARS or something and wiped everyone out.

[Myth]

The next book is out on September this year.

[rajpoot]

The next book is out on September this year.

That is awesome news if he manages to stick to schedule.
Also not to nitpick but I would really appreciate it if you could tell me where you read this.

[Andres]

That is awesome news if he manages to stick to schedule.
Also not to nitpick but I would really appreciate it if you could tell me where you read this.

I don't care where he found that information. From now on, Myth is personally responsible for that book to appear in September 2014. If necessary, he'll have to write it himself

[Hooahguy]

The next book is out on September this year.

I demand a source or I will burn you at the stake!

[PROVOST]

Just been rewatching S2 and S3 in preparation for april and S4.

[King Jagiello]

All of the books are simply amazing and the TV show is just as good I think.

[PROVOST]

​I would rather have Missandei as the 8 yo child than the brown chick. We have enough meat in the show.

​We have enough meat in the show.

[Kagemusha]

There is never enough meat!