It was either naive, or PIS, to expect that I'd even get a tracking result at all. Why would anyone assume that?
It's possible, but not bloody likely if it were that straightforward.
10-01-2016, 10:16
Montmorency
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
A lot of irrelevant verbiage that doesn't come close to addressing the following likely course of actions:
I am town, I think GH is town, I offer you a way to prove your townieness based on your claims. You refuse. You block or have blocked General Hank (since you are the one suddenly pushing the idea of Mafia roleblocker).
Die. Vote: Pizza
10-01-2016, 10:30
Askthepizzaguy
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
It's a damned good thing we refused, btw.
We would have learned jack and shit if we played along. Which was the entire point of the suggestion.
10-01-2016, 10:35
Askthepizzaguy
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
GH and Pizza can have tonight to 'work their magic'. Should tell us a few things, if GH agrees to jailkeep Pizza, and Pizza agrees to track GH. If Pizza himself is town, then he should give an honest account:
[snip, etc]
I strongly recommend GH and Pizza follow this plan.
Easiest way to prevent both roles from being useful.
10-01-2016, 10:56
Montmorency
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Only if someone works to prevent GH from using his power, while also covering for himself and his partner.
Sounds like a certain jabroni here.
I agree with one thing: you played right into the trap. If you thought this would be some kind of Hail Mary to throw people off your evil behavior throughout, then I believe you are wrong, sir. I accounted precisely for this Pizza wildcard eventuality. That's why you have no choice now but to flip-flop onto me. It's why you couldn't kill GH at night.
Prepare for destruction.
10-01-2016, 11:06
novice
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by novice
Why didn't you say this during the day?
Pizza, why didn't you point out the flaws in Monty's plan when he suggested it?
10-01-2016, 11:10
novice
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Jailkeeper prevents townies from using their own powers. Vig can shoot townies. Tracker finds and suspects town power roles, yet cannot find a killer.
There was a day kill. I couldn't possibly track such a thing. The town vig shooting someone, if I track that person, I try to get him lynched.
All of the above can be roleblocked or evaded and all of the above can harm their own team.
It does fit nicely.
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Pelican's townieness and activity has been evolving in the wrong direction. It's easier for scum to appear town on day 1 than on day 4.
10-01-2016, 11:16
novice
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Monty, I mentioned a few town tells on you earlier. I can't remember you commenting on them. Did you?
10-01-2016, 11:24
Montmorency
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
It does fit nicely.
What did you take from that post? I couldn't find a coherent point to it.
Quote:
Monty, I mentioned a few town tells on you earlier. I can't remember you commenting on them. Did you?
I'm supposed to comment on them? I remember you mentioning admitting factual inaccuracies, can you iso the posts?
10-01-2016, 11:31
Askthepizzaguy
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by novice
Pizza, why didn't you point out the flaws in Monty's plan when he suggested it?
At the time, I was busy looking at people's activity levels. It also was just a suggestion, not a plan that had any backing.
10-01-2016, 11:53
Montmorency
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
It also was just a suggestion
Yes, normally you comment on suggestions. Unless you don't want to be tied to a response for plausible deniability. :yes:
10-01-2016, 11:54
novice
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Novice, I warn you that I will lynch you over GH any time.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
I'm supposed to comment on them? I remember you mentioning admitting factual inaccuracies, can you iso the posts?
Not necessarily, and it's not important now. I had a feeling you were tiptoeing around me so you could vote me based on the first quote. But you never actually voted me, so idk.
10-01-2016, 11:55
Montmorency
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
No, I was saying if it came to a decision between you and GH I would vote to lynch you (i.e. thunderdome). In the end, I also went after Winston, but that didn't turn out well.
10-01-2016, 11:57
novice
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
On a more serious note, I don't love GH's claimed actions. If he is mafia with Pelican (which doesn't seem that unlikely right now) then claiming to have jailed him 3 nights in a row is a pretty easy way to keep your claim safe, as well as the no result last night.
So you're killing GH next, right?
10-01-2016, 11:58
Montmorency
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
So you're killing GH next, right?
Is that an insinuation that DP101 is mafia, or an exhortation to lynch GH? I disagree either way.
10-01-2016, 11:59
Murska
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
So what did Winston do?
10-01-2016, 14:23
Askthepizzaguy
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
It takes 2 and a half hours to read this thread if you start from the beginning, and that's only if you put everyone who isn't alive on ignore mode first.
Five lynches left. My suggestion:
1. Lynch Monty
2. Lynch Cuth, Murska, atheotes any order.
3. Final round: Lynch any claimed power role still alive, or DP101.
I shall form my coalition out of completely awol players, Reidquat who isn't even a townie, GH and WH, or whoever agrees.
10-01-2016, 15:47
Cuthillius
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Meh. I still don't like Pizza, but Monty's reaction to that was bad.
Vote:Montmorency
10-01-2016, 16:05
Winston Hughes
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Going to be a busy weekend, but I should be around for a while tomorrow evening.
Given the potential it has to complicate things, I'm going to give a full claim now so you all have time to process it before eod:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
You can't just have your characters announce how they feel... that makes me feel angry!
The Town achieves victory based on its ability to achieve the goals listed below.
- The Mafia are eliminated.
- All hostile Third Parties are eliminated.
- At least one member of the Town survives the game.
Abilities:
Robot Devil (Robot Scan). At night, target another player to determine whether or not they are a robot.
Beelzebot (Partial Immunity). No robot can carry out a night action against you.
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If you have any questions, ask me privately.
:2thumbsup:
N1: Al Sipsclar - robot
N2: Murska - not robot
N3: GH - robot
N4: john - robot
10-01-2016, 16:34
Riedquat
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
It takes 2 and a half hours to read this thread if you start from the beginning, and that's only if you put everyone who isn't alive on ignore mode first.
Five lynches left. My suggestion:
1. Lynch Monty
2. Lynch Cuth, Murska, atheotes any order.
3. Final round: Lynch any claimed power role still alive, or DP101.
I shall form my coalition out of completely awol players, Reidquat who isn't even a townie, GH and WH, or whoever agrees.
:laugh4::laugh4: Good plan! Let me think about it! :laugh4:
10-01-2016, 16:36
Dp101
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by novice
So you're killing GH next, right?
That was the plan at the time. I might have to reevaluate after the pizza-Monty thing.
10-01-2016, 16:47
GeneralHankerchief
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Alright, I think we need to get the ball rolling. I had three successful jailkeeps in a row against Pelican. I move off him on Al Sipsclar and suddenly he avoids my prison. Either somebody actively impeded me (and usually a JK has priority), or it was a passive ability on Al Sipsclar's part.
Vote: Al Sipsclar
10-01-2016, 16:51
Riedquat
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
Going to be a busy weekend, but I should be around for a while tomorrow evening.
Given the potential it has to complicate things, I'm going to give a full claim now so you all have time to process it before eod:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
You can't just have your characters announce how they feel... that makes me feel angry!
The Town achieves victory based on its ability to achieve the goals listed below.
- The Mafia are eliminated.
- All hostile Third Parties are eliminated.
- At least one member of the Town survives the game.
Abilities:
Robot Devil (Robot Scan). At night, target another player to determine whether or not they are a robot.
Beelzebot (Partial Immunity). No robot can carry out a night action against you.
-----
If you have any questions, ask me privately.
:2thumbsup:
N1: Al Sipsclar - robot
N2: Murska - not robot
N3: GH - robot
N4: john - robot
:inquisitive: So... you believed me or not? I had already revealed john was a robot, why did you need to scan him again?
10-01-2016, 17:27
Winston Hughes
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riedquat
:inquisitive: So... you believed me or not? I had already revealed john was a robot, why did you need to scan him again?
I totally missed that.
10-01-2016, 18:17
novice
Re: Futuramafia [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Alright, I think we need to get the ball rolling. I had three successful jailkeeps in a row against Pelican. I move off him on Al Sipsclar and suddenly he avoids my prison. Either somebody actively impeded me (and usually a JK has priority), or it was a passive ability on Al Sipsclar's part.
Assumption One: I am who I claim to be, a town-aligned Jailkeeper.
Assumption Two: I am a somewhat competent Mafia player on occasion.
Operating under the premise the the above two assumptions are true, let us further speculate on why I have not disclosed my actions to this point. It could be because I was softly trying to influence the town's direction in favor of, or away from, a particular lynch target, while still trying to preserve my anonymity. It could be because I was breadcrumbing my role in a long-term effort to first set up my role and then drop the hammer when I finally had information of worth to reveal. It could be because I have no information of value from the actions I've taken so far. It could be because I'm waiting for more people to chime in on the issue first. It could be because I believe the mafia, as it currently stands, will be better served to adapt and react to the information disclosed than town.
Three of the five possible scenarios are correct here.