Motion Detect 15er #2 GAME THREAD

if i find illario has improved by eod then my preferred yeet right now would probably be lapras

i know some people townread that slot, i'd like to hear why

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Originally Posted by Vulgard

if i find illario has improved by eod then my preferred yeet right now would probably be lapras

i know some people townread that slot, i'd like to hear why

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nutella would also be an option i guess

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Oh yeah Syn randed town.

Vote: Vulgard

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thank you ender very cool

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Originally Posted by Vulgard

votes on nutella are fine because i don't think she has played the game yet and the longer that is the case the more likely it is that she's a wolf (she is a polarized player)

she can towntell if she's town so i'm not concerned about this causing her to be MLed

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this is a nice hedge

who is your gardener

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Originally Posted by Syn

this is a nice hedge

who is your gardener

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please don't be like pizza

last game i played here, pizza tunneled me for the majority of the time he was alive because i was hedging, and then he desperadod into me on day 2 and died because i was town

i'm sincerely hoping that everyone else who was in that game learned something from that lol
(i know you weren't in that game but i'm making you aware)

pizza is a god

i would love to be like pizza

god is dead

i didn't stutter

however making one pizza post would irreparably ruin me and cause enough psychic damage to level a city block

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Originally Posted by Lapras

Visors entry is completely NAI + hes visor and robyn (congrats on your transition btw!!) loves meta n gamestate reads n this aimt right

Cape imo town tells a bunch when town. Better to wait on him solving to make a read. Also basically said nothing thst feels rvs towny

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hmm who is behind this SSS-tier majestic pokemon

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Originally Posted by Lapras

Yes but i wanna see how long it takes for ppl to work it out

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Oh I think I know ok

alt reading is my forte as we all know

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Nothing actually. Visor and Syn are just memeing.

BUt illario is a wolf :curtain:

I'll think about ur offer.

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hwy illario out of the three

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Originally Posted by Vulgard

I'm realizing I asked my question poorly, but idk how to ask the question I was trying to ask WELL

maybe I'll just explain what I was trying to do

basically, the fact you called Robyn's townreads a stretch made me wonder if you were saying that because you thought Robyn was forcing reads in RVS as a wolf, or because you were trying to prevent early (good) reads from a villager taking hold

the way in which you called Robyn's reads a stretch made me suspicious because I thought it was tonally wolfy, but since my tonal reads are terrible, I didn't want to rely on that, so I asked a question about your comment

the problem is that I asked the question in such a way that your answer doesn't really help me determine what you were motivated by, lol. gut instinct on your initial post is still "wolf," your response could come from both alignments

Vote: Lapras I guess I'll place my vote here for now, but I don't actually feel super confident about it, and I'll likely change it

(I realize me outright saying that will make this vote have 0 pressure, but ideally, I'd like to be transparent here because this is not an obvious read and it took a lot of time to explain help)

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this is a post written by vulgard

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Originally Posted by robyn

also lapras and vulgard aren't w/w

and both town most likely

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agree w/this

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Originally Posted by Visor

Raskol is a wolf because he would never say I am town so early as town :curtain:

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ok this is something

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Originally Posted by Vulgard

i think robyn's thought process is a town thought process because it's weird and slightly awkward but not in a wolfy way imo
hopefully i don't get burned on this read lol

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i didn't think robyn saying their previous reads were fake was wolfy in this context, so illario calling it wolfy was suspicious to me, and looking back on his reads i feel like he gave too many but that line of reasoning is kinda stupid

the former is only wolfy if robyn is indeed town, it's actually towny if robyn's mafia and i'm wrong, but i currently think i'm right

this read is quite biased but i do still want to share the thought

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there was that MU game with two vigs a while ago where rask was killed day 1 and flipped mafia

i feel like his posting rn is similar to that game but i'd need some comments on this from other players, there are some people here who were in that game

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i kind of like this take but im not fully there. i have a hard time reading illario though

the rask take in addition to visor's is cool though

vote: Raskolnikov

for now


robyn/vulgard/lapras/achro are p towny

achro/illario/cape middling

syn/wisdom bleh

wait i put achro in two tiers i meant to put visor in the top one lol

at least i think thats where i wanted to put visor but i have more to read

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

I don't think you are aware about how your tone feels here compared to when you are pocketing (u can call me dumb for noticing your - or zacks - pockets and falling for them... whatever), so I might disagree with you about it being AI.

it's not like it's something I'll die on tbh. But I noticed the difference and wanted to out a stance.

And I think it is producing AI stuff. (ur opinion on Vulgard/Lapras rn?)

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

And I was the only slot pushing his wolfy ass at all that game.

insert polarisedmeme here. Now,

let me figure out if u outing a quick tr is scummy in that context. generally people who are more paranoid probably wouldnt openly tr me that quick and early.

(note the dichotomy here between what u do and what you are willing to suss people for)

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ngl this whole conversation is so hard for me to follow so im kinda ignoring it

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

Lost confidence when other town read him in addition to one post, let's see if I find it

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

I think Visor sounding a bit deflated 10 posts into the game is town AI.

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

That's mostly based on how much he went Commander Visor as wolf in our last game though, but I think that he has an easier time to fake that than the Less Wim - Town Edition Visor he seems to be right now.

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ok wisdom v



also yeah i definitely know who lapras is idk if he decided to out after visor asked but its drzeus

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Something extraordinaire just happened.

I read "deflated", really thought about flatulences, and now I am pooping.

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you either decided to just out yourself as wolf or allowed macdougall to post on your account

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

I don't think you are aware about how your tone feels here compared to when you are pocketing (u can call me dumb for noticing your - or zacks - pockets and falling for them... whatever), so I might disagree with you about it being AI.

it's not like it's something I'll die on tbh. But I noticed the difference and wanted to out a stance.

And I think it is producing AI stuff. (ur opinion on Vulgard/Lapras rn?)

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

And I was the only slot pushing his wolfy ass at all that game.

insert polarisedmeme here. Now,

let me figure out if u outing a quick tr is scummy in that context. generally people who are more paranoid probably wouldnt openly tr me that quick and early.

(note the dichotomy here between what u do and what you are willing to suss people for)

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

Lost confidence when other town read him in addition to one post, let's see if I find it

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

I think Visor sounding a bit deflated 10 posts into the game is town AI.

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

That's mostly based on how much he went Commander Visor as wolf in our last game though, but I think that he has an easier time to fake that than the Less Wim - Town Edition Visor he seems to be right now.

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Originally Posted by Vulgard

i think i'm still voting rask lol

Vote: Unvote

the illario read really boils down to him finding robyn's think about faking their reads wolfy because i really don't think it's wolfy in context and it's the sort of thing wolves would latch onto fmpov

main thing holding me back here is that i could be wrong on robyn in which case illario is just town for this but i currently have robyn as town so yeah

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why do you think they can't both be town?

i see the rationale on illario calling the fake reads thing wolfy being wolfy but i don't think it's impossible they're both town

oh shit that multiquoted a bunch of things still, getting used to site sry

lapras is 100% drzeus

source a: read his posting style lol its obv, only dz types in that exact way

source b: search lapras in mu discord

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Originally Posted by Syn

current thot during ketchup is vulgard/illario w/w

let's see if the next two pages change this

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this is a silly but possibly real thought for syn to have

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

question for the class: ww?

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i'm not really feeling it

anyway rask maybe town for now sure

vote: achro

lets spice it up

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Here's the cinch.

Vul randed wolf.

illario probably didn't.

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reverse that my upside down friend

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Normally I read Achro's posts and I'm like "Not sure I agree with it but it's a post."

This game I just don't read Achro's posts.

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he really hasn't said anything of substance afaict

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Originally Posted by Vulgard

the post from lapras i found tonally wolfy was this one

the last line seems a bit tacked on, like the type of fake deeper thought that wolves seem to enjoy tossing in every now and then
and the first two lines just seem more dismissive than they should be? in a sort of patronizing way as i interpreted it
idk if anyone else sees this

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hmm yeah i can see this take

knowing it's dz i think he is ever so slightly in town meta but it's very very light so far

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Originally Posted by Vulgard

i was prodding him for information and had to mull over his responses which is why i stopped asking more questions

ultimately i'm not super satisfied with them. i think his approach to robyn is a bit hands-off here and he doesn't seem like he's actually trying to read robyn (particularly shown by him not questioning their apparent misinterpretation of how he plays). he says that there are games where he doesn't make himself very findable as town but robyn doesn't know them so their stance is fine, however i feel like him not asking any questions about it at all is still lacking in inquisitiveness. he has a fair few light reads, but he doesn't really seem to be investigating anything and he seems rather hands-off.

i don't really think this makes him lock mafia and i think he can play like this as town, but i'm expecting him to dig his heels in and myself to start thinking he's town at some point if he's actually town, which hasn't happened yet

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Originally Posted by Vulgard

the way this read on syn came about for you probably makes you town and the two of you are likely not w/w by extension of the same reasoning so that's nice

i'm town tho

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in which vulgard continues to be transparently town and posting good vulgardy thoughts

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Originally Posted by nutella

this is a silly but possibly real thought for syn to have

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all of my thoughts are real because i am a real boy

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Originally Posted by nutella

anyway rask maybe town for now sure

vote: achro

lets spice it up

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how did rask go from outed wolf to town in ten minutes