Sorry to see you go Andres. Be sure to hurry back so you and I can be on the same side one day. :2thumbsup:
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Sorry to see you go Andres. Be sure to hurry back so you and I can be on the same side one day. :2thumbsup:
I am going to keep Andres' avatar alive for a little while, perhaps until the next Senate session, in case he is able to come back. However I will break his oaths and disperse his property in accordance with the will he just sent me. I'll take care of this later tonight.
see above (as in a while back) comment about holes being blown in my ship.
sorry to see you go Andres, hope you can come back sometime!
Sorry to see you go, Andres. Hopefully you'll be able to come back in time for Makedonios' execution.
You mean when Makedonios retires to Nicosia and sits on the beach sipping mint tea. :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignoramus
You mean your execution :evilgrin:.
:clown:
But seriously guys, I'm having some internet problems and work went from placid to hell in one day when a few guys decided to quite, and now I'm working for 2 people instead of idly by as an intern that was hired to sit on his bum...oh well, I should be on in the night, sorry to all those who grew accustomed to me omnipresence
What's that you say? You want to be kicked out of the feudal chain and declared war on next turn? :evil:Quote:
Originally Posted by YourLordandConqueror
:clown:
Alright, I need to leave earlier tomorrow than I thought. So I am going to open the save tonight. Since the poll is now closed, I assume this is ok.
So, my post in the Megas thread in a few minutes will officially open the save. Happy gaming and I'll see you guys in a couple days. :2thumbsup:
I will miss your ... personality in this game Andres. It made a good read. :bow:
Oh. Yes, relating to the actual gameplay, how many units am I allowed to take with me when I leave the capital, or none at all? What should I do in this regard?
Since Constantinople belongs to the Emperor you can not take any Units from its garrison unless you have the permission from OK. Same goes for every other settlement. You always need the permission of the person who the settlement belongs too.
Once you have taken the units you need the permission of the Megas to actually keep them. Since you don't own a Private or Royal Army all units you control once you are outside of a settlement are only there under the Megas discretion. He can abandon them at his own will.
So all things said, the only thing you are fully allowed to move right now is your avatar Andronikos Komnenos.
Cheers!
Ituralde
None I am afraid. You are only allowed to use "your" units, which means units from a garrison of one of your cities, or units from a Private or Royal Army, which require a certain rank.
*scratches head* Ok.
Im very sorry to hear that you are leaving Andres. I hope once things settle in real life, you will be back.:bow: Motep, since you dont own a army you dont have other units then your own bodyguards. That is why its is important to be part of the feudal chain, so the house can have more private armies.
How do I upload the .zip file?
http://www.mizus.com/files/pbmupload.php
Use this tool.:yes:
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Originally Posted by Kagemusha
Thanks!
Ok, I'm going to start working on a general advertisement/recruitment drive for LotR over the weekend. I will start putting up advertisement posts in some of the forums as part of this effort, and possibly on TWC as well. If anyone knows of specific people at the Org (or on other forums) who might enjoy LotR, you can help out by contacting them and promoting the game to them. I think this coming term should be a fun and exciting time for everyone, so it's the perfect time for new people to start joining in. The game is now developed enough to support over 40 players and the more we have, the more interesting it will get... so get out there and promote it to your friends!
Well.. perhaps some of those people who were interested in WotB, that we are trying to set up, will also be interested of LotR. Will post in my thread in EB sub-forum.
EDIT : nevermind...
Anyone else having trouble with the Org uploader?
I had to put my file on rapidshare for now, sorry for the inconvenience.
the backup one works fine: http://www.mizus.com/files/pbmupload.php
Looks like I've got some editing of the feudal heirarchy table to do...
Just as a side note...I am a Scholar
Ok, I think I've got the Feudal Table properly updated after the most recent upheavals. Please check the table and your bio to make sure it is correct. I will move around the in-game retinue titles next turn.
I think I am letting House Tepaki fall. Michail is unaligned.
Thanks, :bow:
Well.. Arianitis can always join the Asteri! :clown:
Efstathios will be happy to gain a vassal :laugh4:
Andres sorry to hear and after all that hard negotiation you will not be able to enjoy the spoils. ~:doh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Hope you get back soon we will keep your avatar parked just in case. I have been keeping a warm spot in Corinth. :grin:
Take care,
I am hoping my joining the new house can come with blessings and not cursings...:sweatdrop:
Sorry, Ignoramus, I do what I can to climb the ladder of power (plus, I would like to fight the egyptians in the warm an sunny desert)
I know it's not the 24th in the States yet, but Happy Birthday Tincow!
close enough. Happy Bday TC! :birthday2::balloon2:
Agreed. Enjoy yourself on your biryhday, Tincow!Quote:
Originally Posted by deguerra
Happy Birthday TC! :balloon: :balloon2: :balloon3:
Happy Birthday TC! ~:cheers:
It's still August 23rd my time. I have 1.5 hours left of being in my 20s.
Interesting birthday number I found the the 30 the most profound. It was a transitional year looking back.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Thirty is the new twenty, at least according to the popular expression, so don't feel too bad. :2thumbsup:
nevermind...
half an hour off...
Happy Birthday TC. I heartily recommend going the full black decor, over the hill routine at 30. It'll never be funny again. (I'm 32, but trust me :laugh4:)
:egypt:
Okay, Is now past. Happy Birthday, Tincow (for now, it is true for you!)
Happy birthday, Tincow! :balloon: :balloon2:
May be a bit inactive soon, exams/QCS/emotional torment.
lol.
edit: indeed, happy birthday!
Happy Birthday TC!!
You're at the top, enjoy it...there is only a one way to go now!! :balloon2:
Happy Birthday TinCow! :bow: :balloon:
Happy birthday Tincow! :balloon2:
Happy Birthday Tincow !!
Welcome to the roaring thirties !!
I wonder who will be the next Grandmaster of the Order if Makedonios can't raise his piety within the next ~10 turns.:clown:
EDIT: 700th post! :balloon2:
I think loss of piety due to illness was made exempt under the rules, since the SS 4.1 illnesses are decades long.
:egypt:
And I was so looking forward to see who becomes the next Grandmaster! :laugh4:
Happy birthday Tincow!:horn: I still have couple months left before i turn the same amount.
Heh, i turn that awful amount next year too!!!
Happy birthday TC.
I just spent 7 hours in a car, I have hardly slept in 2 days, and I have a hangover. I need to get caught up and then I will officially take the save back.
Thank you to everyone for your patience. Things should move smooth and quick from now on. :bow:
the slight delay was perfect PK.
i got my story up and in time. :balloon2:
Get some pain killers into you fella, that will make it all feel better again.
First off, Happy Birthday TC! :medievalcheers:
I'm hitting the big three-oh in early October myself.
I rewrote the rules a long time ago to exempt illnesses. We've also been exempting Nathanail's "slave to superstition" trait. SS's trait system is far too buggy to let it have that much control over the Order's internal politics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun
I'm glad people were able to make use of it. Seems that some things happened while I was gone. :2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieGiant
So basically you rewrote the rules so that you'd always be Grandmaster? :clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
Seeing as Pagan Magicians can also be removed I don't think there are any other ways to lower piety, and if there are they are very uncommon/dread related.
edit: Happy 30th TC :balloon:
If we end up owning Scotland then it's not that big deal but if we end up being Scotland then we have a problem in our hands! :clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
that's pretty funny :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun
No, if the "Knights" of the Order want a new Grandmaster, then I would step down. I don't mind if there are IC politics that change the internal makeup of the Order. What I did mind was losing power because of a buggy, lame, unrealistic, sickness trait system that I didn't even know about when I first wrote the Charter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elite Ferret
The "2 chiv, 3 piety" rules were to try to make sure a certain level of chivalry would remain alive in the Order. Being "sick" though was not something I intended and I thought allowing that to dictate rank would take away more than it gave so I re-wrote it. Since no one wants to lose positions due to "40 year pneumonia," there was no dissent in the Order over this.
:clown:
Just a quick comment on the current Laskaris-Tagaris argument in the Magnaura. The ghost of Markianos Ampelas fully approves the use of his name and legacy for political maneuvering, if such maneuvering is directed against Methodios Tagaris. :laugh4:
In response to the conversation in the Megas thread:
You guys are right. Sorry, I forgot about that. I will PM Ramses and Rowan the link. Per KP's wishes, it will be first come, first served, between those two players.
You're talking like manipulation on that order is a bad thing... :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Elite Ferret
Even the most holy and pious Pope had to declare himself 'infallible.' Ah, where's Lothar and Arnold when you need them? Oh, that's right... ruling the world. :laugh4:
wait... didn't Lothar and Arnold basically do the same thing with the Illuminati? :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
I am announcing my most likely withdrawal from LotR. It seems I have made it as least fun as possible for far to many people, so I think it best if I simply leave. I am sorry if this inconveniences people who were in the middle of any story line with me, I'll do my best to try and finish those. I am sorry for all I have done and I am sorry for what I will leave unfinished.
:bow:
Hey, if you feel as though one of those people is me, dont. I enjoyed it, I was seriously going to join, until Annios broke the oath, and Michail actually bothered to read the Charter. He was upset at Efstratios dieing as well. For the first time in his life Michail is being contacted with offers. :laugh4:
Maate, what are you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by YourLordandConqueror
I can't speak for anyone else of course, but I really don't think your statement is accurate.
It would be a blow to the game to have you leave YLC.
Please reconsider.
I have to agree one hundred percent!Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieGiant
what they saidQuote:
Originally Posted by Ituralde
before the argument on the Caesar's Armenian Cavalry gets any further, that was my fault.
Igno asked me to move his character. He did not specify to only move his character, but that may well have been his intention. To be honest, it never occurred to me to question whether the unit should be moved as well. I suppose in retrospect its obvious enough that one unit couldn't have been his army, but I really didn't think about it.
:oops:
I figured it was a mistake so I haven't pushed it OOC. IC however I believe it is entirely appropriate to blame his avatar for the mistake. If you don't want the law broken with your avatar, you need to be careful who you let control him. :beam:Quote:
Originally Posted by deguerra
A shame I didn't read this 10 minutes ago. Thank you for clarifying the situation. I want to make it known that intentional rule violations will be dealt with very harshly in the future. Laxity has not served this game well and so it's time to start imposing penalties.Quote:
Originally Posted by deguerra
Unintentional rule violations (as with the above) will not be punished, as long as they are not repeated. If they are repeated, they will be considered intentional.
Can I ask what will be the punishment then?Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Sorry TC, I should have clarified that sooner.
As for your measures, those seem fine to me. I'll be more careful in the future.
I will determine the punishment on a case by case basis. However, depending on the severity of the infraction they may include one or more of the following things:
1) Breaking of all oaths of fealty with a 5 turn penalty on re-swearing, and all the IC consequences that will result from this.
2) Loss of provinces.
3) Suspension from the game.
Thanks TC.
I'm bit smarter now. Hope that I wouldn't break any rules then. :beam:
Again, I don't want to be a hardass, but this game won't work properly if the rules are violated. I really hope no one takes any of this personally, because I like ALL of the players in this game, but I'm the guy in charge and so it's my responsibility to deal with this stuff. I will not impose any penalties without allowing a person to speak in their own defense, but if a rule violation is intentional and/or repeated, I simply HAVE to punish it. I know the rules are complex, so if anyone EVER has any questions about whether something is legal or not, all you need to do is ask me. I will do my best to respond very quickly.
just for the record, I understand your position, support it fully and thank you for all the hard work and willingness to be the bad guy in situations like these. :shame:
edit: me? sucking up to the event-er? never! :clown:
Just to clarify from my point and degurra's defence. I moved the cavlary unit at his request when I took the save because it hadn't moved from his save. I did not examine the stack or think there was an issue with the request. Though I am aware now of the rule moving avatas and the SOT. I can't keep abreast of all the rules everytime I am looking at the game. Hell I can't even remember the rank I have or what it involves.
I was unaware of the IC issues or politcal motives of avatars involved. I just followed a simple request from the last save. There is no agenda on my part or I feel on degurra's. There may have been some poor instructions in the initial request made has mentioned and technically should not have been made with the rule regarding avatar movement.
The mentioning of rules being broken should be made to an individual by pm rather then a very wide brush painting a picture that there is something more sinsiter involved when that is far from the truth.
The responses in here were made because it was brought up in the Magnaura. I have been heavily criticized in the not-so-distant past for doing nothing regarding rule violations, and the way it was initially brought up seemed to indicate that it was once again Igno who had broken a rule. I posted in the Magnaura in an attempt to head off a discussion that I expected to occur on that subject. I also PMed the parties involved. I then read deguerra's post indicating that he had made the move, not Igno, so I quickly back-pedaled, but decided to keep my public stance on rule violations out there just so that people would know that I am going to deal with it properly in the future. My posts were merely intended as information and not criticism of anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northnovas
Apparently I have once again botched my job as GM. Hopefully I'll get it right at some point in the future, because this is getting demoralizing.
Sorry, I realize my OOC joke in the Senate about us not punishing "rule breakers" OOC, was in bad taste. I didn't think about the fact that there have been some real OOC debate and tension about the issue.
My stance in the Magnaura with this has been IC only. But the OOC joke was in poor taste so I apologize. :bow:
It's not your fault, NN was right to call me on my actions. I should have taken a closer look at the situation and figured out what exactly had occurred before doing anything. Even then I should have done it privately and not through public posts. I am entirely in error on this. I've been under a bit of stress over the past week and I would like to think that it has impaired my judgment slightly and made me post before thinking. However, even if that's true it's still my responsibility and I'm the one who screwed up. It is therefore me who needs to apologize, not anyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
I do feel like I'm finally getting a hang of this job. I had no idea whatsoever that I was going to have to undertake this kind of a role when I created this game. I've been so used to econ21 handling all mod-related problems that it has all come as something of a harsh reality to me. I am adapting and learning from my errors and I do promise you that I will get it right in the future.