So? Even with dragons, kings caused debt, houses rebelled and a court full of murderous intrigue was standard.
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So? Even with dragons, kings caused debt, houses rebelled and a court full of murderous intrigue was standard.
True, but the creditors wouldn't have pressed too hard on the issue of their owed money....
That, and I doubt the assassination of a king would have occurred if he had relatives with dragons waiting in the wings (no pun intended :D). Ditto houses rebelling and engaging in civil war.
Well there was the faith millitant uprising that tried to do so, Maegor I was killed on his throne through mysterious circumstances. Jaehaerys I paid for the building of the Nightswatch castle Deep Lake by paying with his wife's jewels, which suggests he didnt have the money to do it himself and didnt want to take out a loan for various reasons.
Anyway this is not the point, the Starks are wussing out of going through legal means and diverting the subject when called on it: discuss.
yup. tho kage is no doubt right about what he said of marching on road and off road. though i think he is mistaken that there are no road between the the Twins, Seagard and Riverrun. so even though they might not be as good as the Kingsroad they are still traveled roads so the orange line of Beskar would still be the fastest, even if you take into account a slower marching speed due to poorer roads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiaexz
and iirc there was also mention in the books of heavy (autumn?) rains which made the river swell to bigger proportions which had already swept other crossings over the forks.
I recall reading why it would have been impossible to hold the North without Dragons, take a look if you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
The Kings hand was killed with the highest legal protection available, I don't think "guest right" would make him feel any safer. I keep thinking if Tywin found out Joffrey killed a King's hand before he was crowned without a trial, he would have a had a aneurism and died.:laugh4:Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
OK,
1. this is completely pointless.
2. Source?
3. You're not even considering it.
1. Better then this boring and smashing head against wall topic.:shrug:
2. Mostly The Westros RTS game/Video game thingie.
3. Not my call.
*bang*bang*bang* What? *bang* I cant hear you *bang* I think I'm nearly through *Bang* I can feel the concrete getting softer *bang* I taste yellow. *Bang*bang*bang*Quote:
Originally Posted by White_eyes:D
thudOh.Quote:
2. Mostly The Westros RTS game/Video game thingie.
Oh come on, Robb's a momma's boy and you're his mother, get influencing.Quote:
3. Not my call.
that game looks so bad and totally rushed to be out for christmas and to lift on the wings of the succes of the series.
Yeah, it doesnt help that there arent any good SOIAF mods for the total war games.
Nobody listens to Cat when they are upset.:shame:Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
Cat is one of the most annoying povcharacters in the books. crazy *****
there is one under construction for mtw2Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
Cyanide is gonna make a RPG. I read about it in GI, actually sounds pretty decent and like it won't be rushed.
He's in space fighting the Klingons with James Bond and Batman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
I'm going to get back to proper GMing tomorrow and I'll reply to anything I haven't already (I notice some QTs have a lot of new posts, if you asked a question I didn't answer drop me a pm or ask it again further up the QT and I'll answer tomorrow.
Just wanted to clarify one thing first, the post in the Game Thread, no 91 by Greyblades, that caused a bit of fuss. I don't have a problem with it, like I've said a few times, not all the information in the game is freely available, and from the results Greyblades received the post was perfectly fine.
I said I would make a rule on declarations, any declarations on war must be made at least 24 hours before the deadline to be allowed.
I wonder how Beskar expects to do anything to the greyjoys without losing his blockade.
Easy, it is part of my plot to invade King's Landing when you think I am at Pyke.
Something unexpected came up last night and I wasn't able to do the gming I'd planned, doing so now.
I think that's all the pms needing replies dealt with, let me know if I missed any. Darn Ironborn plaguing me with pms while I was trying to get through them, can't trust those pirates. :tongue:
well you were much nicer when we were drinking scotch and i bribed you by offering 40 virgins to let me win.
Opening post of Game Thread updated with an FAQ.
will the phase be postponed more? i prefer not... :P
The round will end on schedule, it is likely I will be unable to complete the results by Monday though, Tuesday is more likely, as I'll be spending the New Year at my sisters and won't have much time to work on the results before Monday evening.
ok can we get a prolonged phase that first week of january then? like till the 10th or sumthing?
i thought the nights watch didnt partake in the squables of the realm, i think this means they will not sit in a jury like which is proposed in the game thread either?
There is nothing in the oath itself that says they can't act as impartial judges. And war has yet to be declared anyway.:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nights watch oath
What is exactly the trial about. "King" Joffrey is put on trial of murder of Ned Stark? How on earth that would happen?
First, atm he's not king, and second he personally ordered the murder of the King's Hand...
So basically, what authority permitted him to do so?
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What is exactly the trial about. "King" Joffrey is put on trial of murder of Ned Stark? How on earth that would happen?
Simple, Sandor clegane and Joffrey are going on trial because they killed Ned. the starks say its murder and we say it was a rightful execution, if we can prove Ned was a traitor Sandor and Joffrey are innocent, if not Sandor will be executed, joffrey goes to the wall
And yes Joffrey will attend, Tywin has enough dread to intimidate him into submitting "of his own voulition", little git deserves at least the chance of retribution.
Well...Ok.If it is accepted by the host, then go for it. Putting once claimant of the throne to trial, while he is son of your daughter.Well,ok.
Tywin doesn't expect to lose, also I think it will be a learning experience for the boy.
"There's always Tommen."
Yup if I win the starks are satisfyed and I keep clegane, if I lose the starks are elated and I lose joffrey. Win-win.
I don't think the Stark's would be satisfied.
"Rob, your father was killed because he was leaving King's Landing, escaping for his life and trying to protect his own daughters"
It is pretty easy what is going to happen. Either Tywin has a trap installed or Joffrey will really be going to the Wall, the Hound dead, and even less legitimacy for you.
Well, more like "Robb your father was allied to a known traitor and fleeing KL with his daughters in an attempt to link up with said traitor and put a bastard on the throne instead of the legitemate heirs."
Incidentally, thanks for putting Eddards letter in the announcement thread so I can use it as evidence.
Put a bastard on the throne? But I thought Ned hated Joff.
I meant Edric storm.
How can you link Ned Stark with Edric Storm? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
I mean, trying to link Stannis sure.. but Edric Storm?!
I link him to you and I link him to edric storm. Anyway it doesnt matter I dont need to outright prove he's a traitor beyond all doubt, just provide more/better evidence that he was than not and the nights watch judge will rule on my side.
Does no one else wonder how Jon will react?
Jon Snow as the arbitrator, this I got to see.
Or Uncle Benjen.
I reckon they'll let him do the head chopping.
I dont think that would ever happen.
Wishful thinking...or is it??:evilgrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiaexz
Yeah, there is no way that would happen....I was hoping more for the LC or the Maester at the Wall.:shrug:
Edit:Internet lag of doom double-posts again.:shame:
I don't see why.Quote:
Originally Posted by White_eyes:D
Until when do the orders have to be finished?
There's a timer in the Game Thread.
I am blind (or too tired): I cannot find the timer.
EDIT: Found now.
You know what I would find funny Joffery getting rather angry at his dear old grandfather and giving him the chop for have the gumption to put him on trial.
It's the Lannister's fault, spamming the thread with their nonsensical rantings. :tongue:
:rolleyes: Give it afew turns and then you'll see the extent of my Genius!
*crack-thoom* Muahahahahahah!!!!
*House Lannister has been defeated: Suicide*Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
*House lannister has been defeated: got so awesome all members ascended to the next plane of existance*
Good lord, its like you lot are taking my persona seriously.
Kage just pointed out to me that on this map, Nightsong belongs to me. I checked a wiki and it confirmed it.
Sigh...
You didn't check your QT though did you? Nightsong is sworn to you. The Dornish Marches do not really belong to any faction, they are more of a buffer between Dorne and the Stormlands, I could quite easily take them away from you and have them as an NPC faction.
As for what colour they should be, they are the Dornish Marches...
Any issues with the drawn map, blame me. But for any information for what belongs to you, use the Wiki or check your relevant role pm's.
I will however, be creating a new map based on the one you linked, thank you for that, it is far better than the one I based mine off (and could not tell what was actually what)
Oh so it's all Beskar's fault? Sorry john. Naughty Beskie.
meet The Stranger :)
http://www.tgdaily.com/entertainment...de-to-westeros
also i prefer this map
http://theuniblog.evilspacerobot.com...aw-d38yn2d.jpg
That is awesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stranger
Okay, this didn't go down well last time (and it is the reason I wanted to start the game in the New Year, I only started earlier due to popular demand so no complaining!) but I think it's best to give am extension this phase. I know I said I wouldn't but... shut up :tongue:. I will be away for New Year most of the weekend and won't get a chance to look at the orders until Monday, so it's pointless sticking to the deadline when it means two days with nothing happening.
No DOWs allowed though, a lot of players may not be online with new year and may miss it.
Timer above reset.
This is as much a schedule change as an extension, the game will run Wednesday to Sunday for orders from now on, more people are free and online over the weekends, so it makes sense to have the diplomacy on during Saturday and Sundays.
We pretty much finished our orders. So I am going to take a small break and get working on fixing that map with the additions from Double A and The Stranger (thank you to your both).
If you want to talk factionally or with something Urgent, please go ahead. However, don't totally change everything on its head as that would simply being annoying, as I have no intention of working on them over new years. :tongue:
by god i cannot stand 2 more days of this! i am getting paranoid
I have edited the faction map, it should be the same as Double A's version -
https://img577.imageshack.us/img577/...ofwesteros.jpg
(Slight differences due to terrain differences between the maps)
I apologise about any mistakes on the earlier one (and this one if there are any). They were sincere mistakes based on a really bad picture and some improvisation (such as the Dorne marsh going to Dorne) as I had no clue where the yellow line was on the source picture I used in relation to the big one.
nice but you didnt use my map :S
also you forgot to make the Shield Islands black... since they are now Greyjoy territory XD
jk
Huh, I could have sworn that the kingswood was King's-landing teritory.
edit: Wait, never mind my mistake. This confirms it is in fact inside storm's end's borders: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php...ers-30pcnt.png
Me too, especially as it is called "Kingswood".
Another nice map, thank you Greyblades.
Is that the Night's Watch, or the Green Lanterns?
That map is amazing in every conceivable way.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stranger
Would you care for some wine? It's not poison. Promise.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stranger
Shield Islands are occupied by Greyjoys.They have no rights for them at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stranger
yadayada Tyrell's are so *yawn...* *thunk* *zzzzzzzz*Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
ye! and it has a the most castles and such on it as ive seen on a map before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
Some nice artistic impressions
The Twins
http://gameofthrones.net/resources/4...-and-fire.html
More Pyke
http://gameofthrones.net/resources/4...-and-fire.html
More Winterfell
http://gameofthrones.net/resources/4...-and-fire.html
More KL
http://gameofthrones.net/resources/4...-and-fire.html
Harrenhall from Lakeside
http://gameofthrones.net/resources/4...-and-fire.html
Casterly Rock (:O)
http://gameofthrones.net/resources/4...-and-fire.html
The Wall
http://gameofthrones.net/resources/4...-and-fire.html
Hightower
http://gameofthrones.net/resources/4...-and-fire.html
Dragonstone
http://gameofthrones.net/resources/4...-and-fire.html
Eyrie
http://gameofthrones.net/resources/4...-and-fire.html
Monte Carlo?Quote:
There was no symbol, and I was -this- close to using zombies, but I decided to do "Lantern" instead then the Green Lantern logo came up so I used that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
"In brightest day, in blackest night,
No evil shall escape my sight,
Let those who worship evil's might,
Beware my power... Night-Watchman's Might!"
Approriate.
I like it too, Greyblades.
Now you know how they aim to fight off "the Others"
The only order where "dont eat yellow snow" is a life or death affair.
I think their flag and coat of arms are actually completely black.
im gone from 2-7 jan.
cya in a bit!
Cya!~:)
I can't promise that your islands will be in the condition you left them when you return. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stranger
I'll be starting sorting through the orders tonight after today's Premier League soccer, I'm hoping to have the results out tomorrow evening, approx 32 hours from now.