Monty, shouldn't be considered a soft claim. I was saying that today (right now) would be more active.
GH, unrelated to whatever gut read you have I'm curious how you would describe my wolf play to someone who's never played for me (like, explaining it to merl1n).
Honestly, I'd probably describe it as Not Your Town Game and then go into the process of describing your town game.
12-07-2019, 00:51
Empoof
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
I'm going to pretend votals don't exist for about 25 minutes and expect there to be a real one around then.
Straight up, I'm a bit annoyed that Insaner was like "I HAVE A PERFECT READ ON PZELDA AND HE IS ALWAYS MAFIA HERE" and then immediately walked it back to "well I've read him right 2 out of 3 games" but whatever, riding with this for now.
12-07-2019, 00:52
Empoof
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Honestly, I'd probably describe it as Not Your Town Game and then go into the process of describing your town game.
Do you think I was playing my town game in the DLP multiball game?
Can anybody voting Barto right now tell me why they, individually, think that Barto is scum? Just off the top of your head. No wagon formation nonsense, just tell me - what has Barto done this game that made you think that he is a wolf?
100% wagon formation vote from me. I havn't really played any games with them to have a solid read on them but I've played enough games with the people voting on him and I'm reading basically all of them town that I'm happy to just sheep them on it.
12-07-2019, 00:53
GeneralHankerchief
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Empoof
Do you think I was playing my town game in the DLP multiball game?
Straight up, I'm a bit annoyed that Insaner was like "I HAVE A PERFECT READ ON PZELDA AND HE IS ALWAYS MAFIA HERE" and then immediately walked it back to "well I've read him right 2 out of 3 games" but whatever, riding with this for now.
:on_charm:
12-07-2019, 00:54
merl1n
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
i have procured a distinctive avatar
12-07-2019, 00:54
Empoof
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I wasn't in that game, so yes? :wacky:
I thought you were following along with whatever filler post you gave to voxx at I think EoD1.
I kinda think that read is a little archaic but idk how much you know about how shitty I can play
12-07-2019, 00:55
Empoof
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Newyn
100% wagon formation vote from me. I havn't really played any games with them to have a solid read on them but I've played enough games with the people voting on him and I'm reading basically all of them town that I'm happy to just sheep them on it.
oh fuck is this SCOOBS?!
12-07-2019, 00:55
GeneralHankerchief
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Empoof
I thought you were following along with whatever filler post you gave to voxx at I think EoD1.
I kinda think that read is a little archaic but idk how much you know about how shitty I can play
Ah no, Voxx and I were DMing about something at the time and he asked me to do one. I forgot I even made it until this very moment.
12-07-2019, 00:57
merl1n
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Newyn
100% wagon formation vote from me. I havn't really played any games with them to have a solid read on them but I've played enough games with the people voting on him and I'm reading basically all of them town that I'm happy to just sheep them on it.
i think this is kinda good? blatant dodging of any accountability but doing so openly
12-07-2019, 00:57
Newyn
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Empoof
oh fuck is this SCOOBS?!
No, I'm Newyn. Scoobs is an absolute scrub from what I hear ~;)
12-07-2019, 00:58
Empoof
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Ah no, Voxx and I were DMing about something at the time and he asked me to do one. I forgot I even made it until this very moment.
alright.
Well, idk if we're going to get there on eachother today because I'm malaise and my tryharding at EoD will probably be right in line with wolfmeta.
But I'm down to try and save monty together if it comes to that.
12-07-2019, 00:58
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Newyn
100% wagon formation vote from me. I havn't really played any games with them to have a solid read on them but I've played enough games with the people voting on him and I'm reading basically all of them town that I'm happy to just sheep them on it.
I doubt anyone on his wagon has a read on him, lol (other than ladd who is a woof)
12-07-2019, 00:58
Empoof
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Newyn
No, I'm Newyn. Scoobs is an absolute scrub from what I hear ~;)
well i'm pocketed
12-07-2019, 00:59
GeneralHankerchief
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Empoof
alright.
Well, idk if we're going to get there on eachother today because I'm malaise and my tryharding at EoD will probably be right in line with wolfmeta.
But I'm down to try and save monty together if it comes to that.
Consider the alliance sealed.
12-07-2019, 00:59
Newyn
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by merl1n
i think this is kinda good? blatant dodging of any accountability but doing so openly
I would like to use my daily anti-claim kill on Empoof.
He claimed vote manipulator.
12-07-2019, 01:03
dyachei
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
insaner, why do you think he's wolf? is this gonna be like why you thought mendel was town?
12-07-2019, 01:03
merl1n
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Newyn
More just laziness tbh.
yes, it's lazy, but is it the kind of lazy you would do when bad? coming into the game and seeing people you think r good voting for someone, so voting for them feels more plausible than using other ppl as an excuse to vote someone when bad
12-07-2019, 01:04
GeneralHankerchief
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Empoof
Barto est?
EST+1 I believe, maybe 2.
Last I was aware he was in South America.
12-07-2019, 01:04
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
If Barto flips wolf here this is going to be yikes. But I'm not seeing it. Doesn't look like a wolf lynching wagon formation to me.
12-07-2019, 01:05
Empoof
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
EST+1 I believe, maybe 2.
Last I was aware he was in South America.
Alright I'll expect him to join at EoD then
12-07-2019, 01:07
Newyn
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by merl1n
yes, it's lazy, but is it the kind of lazy you would do when bad? coming into the game and seeing people you think r good voting for someone, so voting for them feels more plausible than using other ppl as an excuse to vote someone when bad
I'd probably would do it even if I was scum tbh. I'm the type of player who just does the least work I can whenever I think I can get away with it. Puts me in the poe during midgame alot of the time but I'm used to it by now.
12-07-2019, 01:08
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
insaner, why do you think he's wolf? is this gonna be like why you thought mendel was town?
I caught more wolves than you did in our hydra game.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Seriously though, I think he is very different from that game where he just entered by clearing pretty much every villager that posted up to that point. Here he seems much more hesitant to give reads/has less conviction, with weird tinfoils and shallow/no explanations for some of them. Since you were also in that game I feel like you should have an opinion on him.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insaner
Capage just feels... very different from the last game I played with him where we were both villagers. Like he isn't providing reads in order to expose the self evident truth of everyone's alignment here but rather just to look like he's contributing. There is little specificity behind his reads and the ones that do have an explanation aren't that hot either.
Like this read here is just frankly bull. You said you liked his posts, why would everyone else thinking the same make Zack suspicious? It makes no sense. It's like you are on that level where you aware that slapping a lazy town read on Zack might make you look suspicious so you want to add some sort of tinfoil to your read.
12-07-2019, 01:08
Montmorency
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
Things wolves say about other wolves
if barto is a villager, ignore
Hold ladd to possible m/m for zelda-bart if one flips scum.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Logic
Yeah, GH should have a lock-Logic read before EOD1. If I flip opposite of what he called me, GH is a wolf.
I know I've passed on most MU stuff. Walk me through how, as it sounds to me, GH became the next Pizza on your meta.
Quote:
Originally Posted by merl1n
i have procured a distinctive avatar
Cool.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insaner
If Barto flips wolf here this is going to be yikes. But I'm not seeing it. Doesn't look like a wolf lynching wagon formation to me.
Tie Barto and Zelda.
12-07-2019, 01:09
dyachei
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insaner
I caught more wolves than you did in our hydra game.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Seriously though, I think he is very different from that game where he just entered by clearing pretty much every villager that posted up to that point. Here he seems much more hesitant to give reads/has less conviction, with weird tinfoils and shallow/no explanations for some of them. Since you were also in that game I feel like you should have an opinion on him.
you were also VERY wrong about the ones you were wrong on. So excuse me if I don't have confidence in your reads without seeing a reason
I will update these for every phase change in the OP.
12-07-2019, 01:10
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
you were also VERY wrong about the ones you were wrong on. So excuse me if I don't have confidence in your reads without seeing a reason
Did you open the spoiler?
12-07-2019, 01:11
Empoof
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
reads in spoilers are a scumtell
it's in the bookofneeee
12-07-2019, 01:12
merl1n
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Newyn
I'd probably would do it even if I was scum tbh. I'm the type of player who just does the least work I can whenever I think I can get away with it. Puts me in the poe during midgame alot of the time but I'm used to it by now.
i can respect that i'm the kind of person that does the least work i can whenever i can get away with it when i'm being paid to do so
12-07-2019, 01:13
merl1n
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Empoof
reads in spoilers are a scumtell
it's in the bookofneeee
oh
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
dyachei bad y/n
12-07-2019, 01:14
dyachei
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
is there a way to ISO here?
12-07-2019, 01:14
Empoof
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by merl1n
oh
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
dyachei bad y/n
jury's out on dyachei.
I don't think she's currently readable so far.
12-07-2019, 01:14
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by merl1n
oh
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
dyachei bad y/n
Probably not, but I think there isn't enough content to say for sure.
12-07-2019, 01:14
dyachei
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
and yes, I read the spoiler
12-07-2019, 01:15
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Empoof
jury's out on dyachei.
I don't think she's currently readable so far.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
villagery mindmeld
12-07-2019, 01:15
GeneralHankerchief
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
I've read the pzelda iso for myself and am officially signing off on that wagon beyond "I'll sheep Insaner on it". My main problem can be best summarized by this post:
Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
I tried to play anonymously, but Insaner spoiled my identity meanwhile. Also, I haven't read a game of yours till the last champs and I remember you waiting there to get killed by mafia, essentially. Here, it's kind of same, actually. Maybe I should look harder at people dealing out free Zack townreads.
There is no attempt at following up on this. There is no hint of an attempt at following up on this. There's clarifications, a good bit about talking about MU people and meta and anything besides actual reads and takes on people, but there's very little actual solving spirit, and in my experience people making statements similar to the bolded and going absolutely nowhere with them is a pretty reliable scumtell.
12-07-2019, 01:15
merl1n
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Empoof
jury's out on dyachei.
I don't think she's currently readable so far.
how is her content level different from el barto to you
12-07-2019, 01:15
Empoof
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
Somebody was asking earlier about ISOs. This is the closest we've got: the ‘Who's posted?’ feature.
@ dyachei
12-07-2019, 01:15
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Empoof
jury's out on dyachei.
I don't think she's currently readable so far.
Search thread>Advanced search>Enter player's name and click "Search"
12-07-2019, 01:16
GeneralHankerchief
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
ISOing is similar to POG, dya.
Gotta go back to the Gameroom index, click on the number of posts, and click on the person's postcount in the window that pops up. One of the sticky threads (the offsite guide) provides pictoral help.
12-07-2019, 01:16
Empoof
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by merl1n
how is her content level different from el barto to you
I don't really understand the question, but I think that barto has given a decent amount of content
I disagree on Zack. He's just playing around. His push ob Barto wasn't based on a real read imho
Insaner posting twice as much as the rest of game has been my only impression
I guess this got explained meanwhile.
I reread Monty's wall thrice and the only thing, which pings me is the weird remark on GH.
I hope this got expanded.
Empoof's reads make me sleepy. I guess I need to cup of damn good coffee.
Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
I find Monty's unrelated thoughts to be some type of content for content. I'm not a big fan. Other than that, It's been a nice game so far. I don't even feel like throwing my vote around and killing someone.
Actually, Empoof has been the loudest voice so far and I like him for that. I read some mashes on MU and he's usually loud trying to powertown or powerwolf. Finding the difference might be hard but this has felt like a honest effort so far.
Townreads so far:
Empoof
Merlin
Insaner
Egix
Zack and Barto produced some activity and I definitely spotted them. The latter's definitely more lackluster of the two. Zack's late posts are solid and filled with micro reads. My only fear is that the read on him is so consensus. Barto's posts are trashier with more fluff, but I think that him going against the thread might be a good look.
Cuth made a long post I skipped, then returned to it and read the last sentence:
I'm not a big fan of the wording here. I agree with the read, tho.
The rest is of players consists the bottom pile. I guess monty and gh stand out but not in a good way. GH might be too much of a MU champs meta read, but Monty's just been making fluffy unrelated posts.
Vote: Montomercy
I kind of hate that he says insaner is posting more as like the only real comment there but then has him as a townread so far but zack is just messing around?
I will update these for every phase change in the OP.
Native timer don't work?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Empoof
Vote PZelda
yes.gif
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
I kind of hate that he says insaner is posting more as like the only real comment there but then has him as a townread so far but zack is just messing around?
vote: Pzelda
No no no, too many votes!
12-07-2019, 01:22
Newyn
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
merlin, can you explain exactly why you believe ladd to be scum?
12-07-2019, 01:23
Visor
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Native timer don't work?
yes.gif
No no no, too many votes!
the timer is a magical fickle being of immense power
i will try messing with it for the night phase but ive only had poor results in the past
12-07-2019, 01:23
Empoof
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
If all the votes on ladd were on choxorn I think I'd feel better walking into this.
But I guess I'm gonna hope for an attention EoD
12-07-2019, 01:24
dyachei
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
I disagree on Zack. He's just playing around. His push ob Barto wasn't based on a real read imho
Insaner posting twice as much as the rest of game has been my only impression
I guess this got explained meanwhile.
I reread Monty's wall thrice and the only thing, which pings me is the weird remark on GH.
I hope this got expanded.
Empoof's reads make me sleepy. I guess I need to cup of damn good coffee.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Empoof
If all the votes on ladd were on choxorn I think I'd feel better walking into this.
But I guess I'm gonna hope for an attention EoD
talk to me about choxorn?
12-07-2019, 01:25
GeneralHankerchief
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Empoof
If all the votes on ladd were on choxorn I think I'd feel better walking into this.
But I guess I'm gonna hope for an attention EoD
Pretty much same.
Would feel kinda bad about Choxorn going down but that's mostly because I think I can get him with another day. Would certainly prefer him to ladd if it comes to it.
12-07-2019, 01:26
merl1n
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Newyn
merlin, can you explain exactly why you believe ladd to be scum?
i can try but it's more a feeling than something i can explain well. he made a bunch of posts that made me feel a similar way after reading them. like he'd ask a question or make a statement but it felt like there was no purpose or intent to the thing he posted. then there was him constantly claiming to be bad and making jokes about it and it felt like a deflection from the fact that he wasn't actually doing anything then he made sure to remind us multiple times about how he actually does care about the game now and it just all felt like performance art
logic made a post that explains some of the things i agreed with better than i can
12-07-2019, 01:26
Empoof
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
talk to me about choxorn?
Was sheeping zack mostly, iso's lackluster/flat, remember disliking some idea they were putting out on a holistic sense
12-07-2019, 01:27
El Barto
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
My brain hurts after trying to make sense of some 370 posts. Does anybody want to ask me anything?
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
also @El Barto have we played together before? did you have a different username?
Takhitty on MU, actually.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
4 votes for Bart, 4 votes for Zelda, 3 votes for me. Satisfying compromise?
Can anybody voting Barto right now tell me why they, individually, think that Barto is scum? Just off the top of your head. No wagon formation nonsense, just tell me - what has Barto done this game that made you think that he is a wolf?
Thanks for the possibly pocketing defence, but what the hell are you doing with the tally?
12-07-2019, 01:28
GeneralHankerchief
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
My brain hurts after trying to make sense of some 370 posts. Does anybody want to ask me anything?
Got any mafia? Top town? Why?
12-07-2019, 01:28
dyachei
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Empoof
Was sheeping zack mostly, iso's lackluster/flat, remember disliking some idea they were putting out on a holistic sense
are they someone that tends to slank as a wolf?
12-07-2019, 01:29
Empoof
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
I feel like I've played with tahkitty before. Or hosted some game you were in.
I have questions on how you feel about current wagons / any updates on opinions
12-07-2019, 01:29
Empoof
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
are they someone that tends to slank as a wolf?
No idea, haven't ever played with them before
12-07-2019, 01:30
dyachei
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
i kind of like the 1 post by them that challenges insaner but there's like...no content to look at
You're going nowhere with your scum-reads, as if you are afraid to commit. However:
You've got some subtle shade on Pzelda that looks like you are reluctant to vote there.
You hedge on calling a post of mine good content wise, but wolfy in tone.
You are reluctant to to do anything with a probable Barto scum-read, instead deferring to others for meta.
You give a out of nowhere ">rand Fable/Barto W/W" and don't follow up.
I feel like you are taking pot shots to see what sticks rahter than actually solving.
this was the post of logic's that i thought made logic good and that i agreed with almost all of. the last line in particular put into words what i was thinking when i saw ladd post
12-07-2019, 01:31
Empoof
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Oh yeah it was the whole "who are these wolfy people pushing barto?" line they were trying to soft push insaner for.
Felt like it dragged longer than it should have.
12-07-2019, 01:31
dyachei
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
pretty sure if i've played with takhitty it was in some larger game or something because i dont remember it well
12-07-2019, 01:31
GeneralHankerchief
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Re: Choxorn
There's a concept about him on this set of communities (org, cfc, etc) called the Choxorn Line where anybody below his post count is officially labeled a slanker and anyone above him is ok.
Which is a roundabout way of saying yeah he's kind of a lowposter regardless of alignment, which is part of why I'm somewhat gun-shy on going for him today. His actual post content is mildly concerning, but the volume is not. Not yet, anyway.
12-07-2019, 01:32
dyachei
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Empoof
Oh yeah it was the whole "who are these wolfy people pushing barto?" line they were trying to soft push insaner for.
Felt like it dragged longer than it should have.
see i didnt mind that much but there's like nothing else he's done
12-07-2019, 01:32
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
soery
fell asleep, I am 1 page behind
12-07-2019, 01:33
Empoof
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Re: Choxorn
There's a concept about him on this set of communities (org, cfc, etc) called the Choxorn Line where anybody below his post count is officially labeled a slanker and anyone above him is ok.
Which is a roundabout way of saying yeah he's kind of a lowposter regardless of alignment, which is part of why I'm somewhat gun-shy on going for him today. His actual post content is mildly concerning, but the volume is not. Not yet, anyway.
Good to know, thanks.
Still think he's kinda wolfy.
12-07-2019, 01:34
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
I've been clicking on a few isos but I'm too tired rn to reevaluate anything. I'm too rooted in my pzelda/ladd/GH/Cuth wolves world, I doubt I can proceed without flips. My latest read lists mostly stands, with the changes being: Cuth is now a wolf read, Logic is a confident villager, Egix>dya>Fable all feel kinda villagery but just don't have enough content to lock them in.
12-07-2019, 01:34
Newyn
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Not really a fan of Choxorn's posts but they're pretty much rand today so doesn't really give us much even if he flips scum.
Still a better lynch than ladd though.
12-07-2019, 01:34
Empoof
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
soery
fell asleep, I am 1 page behind
your wagon is full of villagers :oops:
12-07-2019, 01:35
Empoof
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insaner
I've been clicking on a few isos but I'm too tired rn to reevaluate anything. I'm too rooted in my pzelda/ladd/GH/Cuth wolves world, I doubt I can proceed without flips. My latest read lists mostly stands, with the changes being: Cuth is now a wolf read, Logic is a confident villager, Egix>dya>Fable all feel kinda villagery but just don't have enough content to lock them in.
If you think GH is partnered with pzelda and is comfortable riding this wagon then you've never played with wolf GH before
12-07-2019, 01:36
Newyn
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Empoof
your wagon is full of villagers :oops:
I can see Logic and merlin as villagers maybe, sell me on the other 2.
12-07-2019, 01:36
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Empoof
your wagon is full of villagers :oops:
as always
which is why I have given up on going hard after my voters when iften theree is not even 1 a wolf there