Sufjan 10er [Game Thread]

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

It strikes me noone really wants Ender to be the chop in his wagon

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pretty much lol

https://c.tenor.com/OEAjbNBRLJYAAAAC...-hill-koth.gif


Mischief, Sunbae, Visor, Raskolnikov

in response to rask's point

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Originally Posted by Lantana

poe is rask taffy ender and is confused at rask town-reading him. could be w/w too

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

It strikes me noone really wants Ender to be the chop in his wagon

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I don't think Ender has been great (not that I think I have been either), so it's somewhat a matter of POE, and mechanics.
V reads + Eph being semi-cleared by the flip>
Ender and Insom are what's left.
I still think Insom is the more likely wolf there, but it's generally unadvisable to vote a vig claim (though I have in some cases of near certainty, in turbos, since it made the scum claiming to be the JOAT think I was the cop after the person I voted flipped W, which made it easy to win)
Though I will say, I have had the thought on a few occasions, with Ender, that half his votes seem like he's just sheeping others.
That's not exactly damning, though.

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Originally Posted by Mischief

I don't think Ender has been great (not that I think I have been either), so it's somewhat a matter of POE, and mechanics.
V reads + Eph being semi-cleared by the flip>
Ender and Insom are what's left.
I still think Insom is the more likely wolf there, but it's generally unadvisable to vote a vig claim (though I have in some cases of near certainty, in turbos, since it made the scum claiming to be the JOAT think I was the cop after the person I voted flipped W, which made it easy to win)
Though I will say, I have had the thought on a few occasions, with Ender, that half his votes seem like he's just sheeping others.
That's not exactly damning, though.

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A roque multiquote decided to join.

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

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Mischief, Sunbae, Visor, Raskolnikov

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lol pretty much

@EnderWiggin

cmon

fuck it i dont care about vig claims

Vote: insomnia

vote: insomnia

tada

Vote: Insomnia

if ive fucked up again for the second day in a row you better believe im gonna do it again tomorrow

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Originally Posted by Visor

if ive fucked up again for the second day in a row you better believe im gonna do it again tomorrow

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we are going to turbo you tmr :curtain:

lol us if insomnia is the vig and Ender the wolf.

Zack is going to kill us all

day 2 over, donut post

"I am done hosting games for dumbies"

the lunch is a tie, RNG says:

https://i.imgur.com/AZCBBah.png

:skull: 3 Mischief (EnderWiggin, Ephemeral, insomnia)
3 insomnia (Visor, Raskolnikov, Sunbae)

1 EnderWiggin (Mischief)

Mischief was eliminated.

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They were Sufjan Stevens, vanilla town!

https://i.imgur.com/ZJiAuSN.png?1

Night actions for night 2 are due in

Do not post until I explicitly say so.

Alive: 6/10
EnderWiggin
Ephemeral
insomnia
Raskolnikov
Sunbae
Visor

Dead:
Totally not Taffy - d1, vt
dyachei - n1, vt
Lantana - n1, mafia
Mischief - d2, vt

EnderWiggin was killed.

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They were Sufjan Stevens, vanilla town!

https://i.imgur.com/FJuOTZE.png?1

Raskolnikov was killed.

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They were Sufjan Stevens, vanilla town!

https://i.imgur.com/cQ5TTcq.png?1

Day 3 ends in

You may now post! :whip:

reminder that this game has no maj and no locked votes :bow:

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Alive: 4/10
Ephemeral
insomnia
Sunbae
Visor

Dead:
Totally not Taffy - d1, vt
dyachei - n1, vt
Lantana - n1, mafia
Mischief - d2, vt
EnderWiggin - n2, vt
Raskolnikov - n2, vt

hell yeah, not vig

raskol goat btw

i was so scared he was ACTUALLY the vig lmao

cmon cmon cmon vig claim

is it actually insomni? if so this may be the worst game i have ever palyed, ever LOL

god u r so fkin good raskol

i could kiss you

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i guess sunbae is the only person who would actually be here at this time

lol

i guess ill just.... wait till euroland shows up lol

if insomnia is telling the truth then i guess i think we should kill eph and then if thats wrong insomnia has to trust in my purity over sunbae

(i dont think killing both me/sunbae is a good idea)

if eph is the vig, i guess i think we kill insom then i hope eph believe me over sunbae

and if sunbae is the vig we always win because he trusts me i think despite be being the dumbest man alive

so cmonnnnn claim

we have a great chance to win this despite me being terrible lmao

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

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are you the vig???????????? lmao

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Originally Posted by Visor

are you the vig???????????? lmao

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Nah i just like the curtain emoji

I suppose we wait and see if it's actually Insom or Ephem

I would prefer for it to be Ephem because, well, I just want to be right

If it's Insomnia then well whatcha gonna do. Thought my case was pretty good but something something probabilistic game

should be a fun f4 while the vig freaks out and the rest of us sit here saying lmao as long as its not me idc

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

should be a fun f4 while the vig freaks out and the rest of us sit here saying lmao as long as its not me idc

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absolutely lol

interesting that the wolf killed raskol though, given both kills n1 and n2 my guess is the vig is actually just insomnia and he was trying to look like he was faking and us pushing insomnia maybe convinced the wolf he was faking?

im not sure what i wouldve done as a wolf

maybe the wolf decided fuck it i can win f4 in which does that mean sunbae is the wolf? :scared:

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Originally Posted by Visor

interesting that the wolf killed raskol though, given both kills n1 and n2 my guess is the vig is actually just insomnia and he was trying to look like he was faking and us pushing insomnia maybe convinced the wolf he was faking?

im not sure what i wouldve done as a wolf

maybe the wolf decided fuck it i can win f4 in which does that mean sunbae is the wolf? :scared:

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You can't make me do "if i were a wolf" posts, I refuse!

im pumped lmao

i know i shit the bed hard this game but we have a real chance to win now and im excited

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Originally Posted by Visor

im pumped lmao

i know i shit the bed hard this game but we have a real chance to win now and im excited

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I'm having a good time. I'm pretty solid with how I've played (working on things and getting experience with them is nice), the people have been good, it's been low key and chill, I've got some pet pictures, made new (hopefully!) friends, and now we'll just see which team wins. Was a nice change of pace from my super intense last game.

Like, it's day 3. I have 95 total posts. I've gotten good chats, jokes, and werewolfing in. Been a really nice balance of game/fun posts.

This is how I kinda wanna play from now on (though I'll get absolutely turboed the first time I post 40 times in a day on MU lol)

As for game stuff, can't really do much until I know which is the vig. If it's Ephem I'll just continue voting Insomnia because I think my case was solid. If it's Insomnia I'll have to try and put some effort towards whether or not Ephem can have been bussed on day 1 or if I just got snowed a bit from the Lan interaction with Visor.

I'm really hoping it's option A. I know Ephem villa read Insomnia so just because the Vig wasn't on Insom it doesn't have to mean it was InsomVig.

want it to be one way dot gif

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

Like, it's day 3. I have 95 total posts. I've gotten good chats, jokes, and werewolfing in. Been a really nice balance of game/fun posts.

This is how I kinda wanna play from now on (though I'll get absolutely turboed the first time I post 40 times in a day on MU lol)

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i probably wouldve had more fun in 48/24, theres so little time for interactions in 24/24 from an aus pov, so i felt a lot of pressure to solve instead of having fun and solving incidentally because i only really got one chance to interact with people before eod

might be a contributing factor to my play lmao (though not the main one - thats being big dumb)

i was so sure you were gonna ream me ala how i did in rocks fall lol, felt like a complete reverse of tha tsituation, i was so upset at myself after that eod lol, i thought mischief was voting insomnia. you made a great read on mischief too (unless you're a wolf smh)

though if insomnia IS the vig, (and you are the wolf) it accidentally big brained into increasing our win percentage by a ton

so edge of your seat stuff

on that note ,sorry for my awful tunnel mischief, i shouldve realised sooner you were just hitting notes i believe are generally wolfy and i wanted those to be right more than anything

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Originally Posted by Visor

i was so sure you were gonna ream me ala how i did in rocks fall lol, felt like a complete reverse of tha tsituation, i was so upset at myself after that eod lol, i thought mischief was voting insomnia. you made a great read on mischief too (unless you're a wolf smh)

though if insomnia IS the vig, (and you are the wolf) it accidentally big brained into increasing our win percentage by a ton

so edge of your seat stuff

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I of all people have no place to ream anyone about anything when it comes to mafia lol. But I wanna share one thing: I recently read a post in spec chat that really resonated with me and made me rethink how I was approaching some werewolf mentality things. It's this:

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I really hate that whole mindset/culture tbh

Making incorrect reads and decisions is an inherent part of the game. It isn't healthy to beat yourself up over them, in private or as a public show (because to be clear besting yourself up in thread about a bad decision made 36 hours ago IS for show). Take away where you went wrong or what you could've done differently, if applicable, absolutely, but the culture of self flagellation for mistakes around mafia sometimes is just

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It made me reflect on myself about how I often beat myself up incredibly bad. And this post was absolutely correct in that, being wrong sometimes is just part of the game and it's a-ok to just take a deep breath and move on to the next day/game.

I'm referring to the part about taking it easy on yourself and not the talking about it in thread part btw. Just like, hate hearing you thought I was gonna ream you or anything. Its just a game why do you heff to be mad dot video.

shouldn't be awake

but not the vig lol

Oh come on

During the overnight phase I'll start trying to figure it out then.

Games basically Insomnias call at this point. Now how does one say "hey buddy, I know I've incessantly tunneled you but uh, be sure to kill the other two people and trust me plz n thanks"? Asking for a friend

smh I really liked my Insomnia case as well

Can I get partial "well PRs are wolfy" credit?

i'll just call it by figuring out which of visor's or sunbae's posts I hate the most when they decided to make the mechanically suboptimal play :wowee:

i'd like for it to be nl just so i can continue the trend of having spot on initial calls only to let myself be dissuaded by people i trust:whip:

what if we triangle vote and have insomnia pick twice so we dont have to do anything and just keeep chatting

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just kidding

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unless?

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but nah

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or maybe?

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:belly:

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

i'd like for it to be nl just so i can continue the trend of having spot on initial calls only to let myself be dissuaded by people i trust:whip:

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I think the only person I really dissuaded was Visor about Mischief. Unless that's not talking to me in which case yeah :whip: em good

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

I think the only person I really dissuaded was Visor about Mischief. Unless that's not talking to me in which case yeah :whip: em good

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But I did start to waver at the end so I don't even think I get full marks

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

I think the only person I really dissuaded was Visor about Mischief. Unless that's not talking to me in which case yeah :whip: em good

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i mean it wasn't directly but it still counted in my heart smh

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

what if we triangle vote and have insomnia pick twice so we dont have to do anything and just keeep chatting

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just kidding

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unless?

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but nah

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or maybe?

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:belly:

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i'm all for it tbh

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

Insomnia,

I acknowledge your claim, but I think you're lying. I will not rocks fall this one though and will play ball because we're in a position to do that and it's mechanically the abc correct move.

Who do you think is a wolf? You're voting Mischief as a placeholder, think voting to save you is a good look, and have stated you're voting there because "the options" are Ender and Mischief and you town read Ender for their play near eod yesterday. If you ignored everything and just said "I'm voting my best wolf read" who would it be and why?


Vote: Ender

I don't have a strong reason to wolf read here but I have strong reasons to villa read everyone else. I think this is most likely a villager and it's Insomnia, especially after the claim, but if Insomnia is the vig then I think it has to be here. If it is the answer, I guess the early poking votes between Lan/Ender ("wolfiest slot so far" early) and the "I might vote you at eod" but never doing so was just distancing, but it's a very weird end of day by Lan to defend Insomnia hard/not defend Ender and being so hectic on Ephem. I can't say I really understand it if so.

As for Mischief, I think the reasons to wolf read there are just kind of not good. I think it's the product of momentum in the sense that it was an early wolf read that's just kind of stuck with people. You had the early "abe simpson" thing which I think can be explained by it being a new site, the push on Visor early which I think was weird for people on the outside but makes sense if you think Mischief believes Visor has better meta on him (I also think pushes of "this person should know me better than to think I'm being wolfy" are just kinda towny in general?), and the way Mischief grumbled about it once multiple people told him that's unreasonable also makes sense. So you had a first half of day 1 where people just kinda locked in "yeah thats weird" in the back of their mind and went about their day and now that there's one wolf left it's "well maybe it's the weird thing I remember". I don't think the lack of interaction with Lan is wolfy despite multiple others thinking so. The way the day played out I think they just *have* to do something if paired together. I don't think "you didn't explain in detail why my interactions look bad" is a reasonable case (I'm a bit miffed that this was said while ignoring my effort to showcase it). I just think from my experience that this is a villager being piled on today for things that aren't wolfy because the answer is obvious and we're trying to poke around in worlds in which it's not.

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by the gods only to vote him at the last second :shrug:

nl was mumbling something similar about making the correct play before his fuck the claims post

lol

society

In my defense, I didn't believe him.

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

nl was mumbling something similar about making the correct play before his fuck the claims post

lol

society

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yea lol

god i was just.... super not convinced that ender actually flipped wolf to the point i felt actively bad about killing him

i felt so bad that i was willing to punt the game away apparently lol

strongly tempted to call sunbae the worse looking of the two on that alone simply because I feel like for sunbae the whole rocks fall thing would hold more significance and v!him would be far more hesitant to do the gamble all over again

but that's probably assuming quite a bit about how much emotional attachment sunbae still has to that decision

>me in every other game

trust the process, believe the claim

>me in this game

fuck all yall YOLO

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

strongly tempted to call sunbae the worse looking of the two on that alone simply because I feel like for sunbae the whole rocks fall thing would hold more significance and v!him would be far more hesitant to do the gamble all over again

but that's probably assuming quite a bit about how much emotional attachment sunbae still has to that decision

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To be clear, when I said a rocks fall situation that is talking about counterclaiming because I think they are lying. Which I did not do despite wanting to. I have, in fact, kept that game in mind and was, in fact, hesitant to do the gamble all over again.

I didn't just chop lissa. I saw lissa claim angel and said no way I don't believe you I am the angel.

i think if ender was someone i wast really villa reading, or if raskol also thought he was a wolf, i wouldve just gone along with it

but i didnt really think he flipped wolf and raskol didnt either and i trusted raskols read on him too, so i was super conflicted about what to do that eod

in hindsight its all villas lmao

but i couldnt kill mischief cause sunbae was convinced (correctly) he was a villager, and i believed in his read enough, i couldnt kill insomnia because of the ivig claim and i couldnt kill ender because i didnt think he flipped wolf

idk. just felt bad all round lol

it definitely wasnt good play, and i probably shouldve articulated my distress at the situation so something couldve been done

my bad

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Originally Posted by Visor

i think if ender was someone i wast really villa reading, or if raskol also thought he was a wolf, i wouldve just gone along with it

but i didnt really think he flipped wolf and raskol didnt either and i trusted raskols read on him too, so i was super conflicted about what to do that eod

in hindsight its all villas lmao

but i couldnt kill mischief cause sunbae was convinced (correctly) he was a villager, and i believed in his read enough, i couldnt kill insomnia because of the ivig claim and i couldnt kill ender because i didnt think he flipped wolf

idk. just felt bad all round lol

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I think at one point I posted about how Im voting ender, have no reason to do so, but I legally can't vote Insomnia and everyone else is more solidly towny

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but then i learned i can in fact legally vote insomnia

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they can't prevent you from doing so

btw, im not kidding about triangle strategy

out til overnight, based on previous game days might not get to talk to some of you again til post game so gg was fun

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

out til overnight, based on previous game days might not get to talk to some of you again til post game so gg was fun

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glgl, pleasure as always

Vote: Sunbae

my mind is here, based on admittedly very little and barely processed info with a side dish of assumptions about sunbae's inner workings

the actual rereading should prob happen tomorrow

at the end of the day i'm just glad i'm not insom having to make a call like this lol

impo, insomnia should pick twice, as long as i am neither of those picks

:)

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Originally Posted by Visor

it definitely wasnt good play, and i probably shouldve articulated my distress at the situation so something couldve been done

my bad

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i'm def not free from blame for being MIA 90% of the time, esp at eods to do anything about... anything that matters really

but so it goes

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

Vote: Sunbae

my mind is here, based on admittedly very little and barely processed info with a side dish of assumptions about sunbae's inner workings

the actual rereading should prob happen tomorrow

at the end of the day i'm just glad i'm not insom having to make a call like this lol

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lol amen

it is so freeing to not have the one making the end decision

i dont envy insom lmao

https://i.imgur.com/LhVKa2O.png




gosh that is a super niche meme but the one person is gonna love it

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

During the overnight phase I'll start trying to figure it out then.

Games basically Insomnias call at this point. Now how does one say "hey buddy, I know I've incessantly tunneled you but uh, be sure to kill the other two people and trust me plz n thanks"? Asking for a friend

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bump, friend still asking

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

https://i.imgur.com/LhVKa2O.png




gosh that is a super niche meme but the one person is gonna love it

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now i'm curious and want an ELI5 of the meme

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Originally Posted by Visor

glgl, pleasure as always

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It's been really fun. Glad you got to play instead of host this time.

Its from a game called "Triangle Strategy" and the gist is the 4 people are all allied but the three on the bottom keep trying to go in three different directions and the person on top has to make the ultimate decisions (player character)

games S tier fwiw, tactics style combat and incredible story

checks steam

realizes it's not on steam and goes to google

cue burst of anger after seeing it's a Switch exclusive

insert long rant about how everything should be on PC

mfw:shame:

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Originally Posted by Visor

lol amen

it is so freeing to not have the one making the end decision

i dont envy insom lmao

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lets just all collectively laugh at insom for getting the short end of the stick while we meme

this is meant as an addendum to sunbae's proposal and i find absolutely no flaws with it, moral or otherwise

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

checks steam

realizes it's not on steam and goes to google

cue burst of anger after seeing it's a Switch exclusive

insert long rant about how everything should be on PC

mfw:shame:

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:bigcry:

pc goat

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Originally Posted by Visor

fuck it i dont care about vig claims

Vote: insomnia

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this is a brilliant chaotic evil post for the alignment chart

it further fuels my hearts desire for nl to be the last wolf

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

this is a brilliant chaotic evil post for the alignment chart

it further fuels my hearts desire for nl to be the last wolf

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:shame:

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Originally Posted by Visor

:bigcry:

pc goat

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i agree and definitely not because I simply can't afford to invest in several consoles even though I only care about 2 or 3 games for each of them