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For this remark 'full is full'
Wow you can get convicted in a court for saying "full is full" !!!!!!!!
Blimey that has to be one for the record books .
So young Mr. fragony , when did you develop this strange taste for embellishment of the truth ?
He wasn't that extreme really. :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: who are you trying to kid ?:inquisitive:
EDIT: nevermind
I'll find some Janmaat quotes to put things in a more accurate perspective.
Wow you can get convicted in a court for saying "full is full" !!!!!!!!
Blimey that has to be one for the record books .
That I agree with. Also: 'own people first', should have added that. I know wikimedia isn't the best source but I edited a link in the post above.
'Zijn verkiezingsleuzen 'Vol = Vol' en 'Eigen Volk Eerst' leidden tot veroordelingen wegens discriminatie'
I know wikimedia isn't the best source but I edited a link in the post above.
Well in that case visit some fascist websites , or some anti-fascist ones , that way you can get lots of information on Hanmaat from both sides .
Could you just clarify one point for me Frag ? when the police catch someone in the act of firebombing somewhere you don't like then you call it a malicious prosecution over nothing , when the police fail to catch someone firebombing somewhere you do like then you call it not even investigated .
Could you explain the reasoning in that ? there must be some reasoning involved , it must make some sort of sense .
So can you explain it in simple words as it seems to make no sense at all .
Well in that case visit some fascist websites , or some anti-fascist ones , that way you can get lots of information on Hanmaat from both sides .
I don't think these sites will be unbiased, and I don't like their company.
Could you just clarify one point for me Frag ? when the police catch someone in the act of firebombing somewhere you don't like then you call it a malicious prosecution over nothing,
That bombing never took place, he saw the mosk was guarded and drove back. Friends had informed the police that he wanted to, *beng* 3 years in jail. I can rape a whole kindergarten and get less. So malicious prosecution over nothing indeed.
, when the police fail to catch someone firebombing somewhere you do like then you call it not even investigated .
Because it wasn't.
Could you explain the reasoning in that ? there must be some reasoning involved , it must make some sort of sense .
If you can make sense of it you are a better man then me.
I don't think these sites will be unbiased,
Thats the idea Frag , you get the views and quotes on him from people who agree with him and people who disagree with him , its called balance:idea2:
That bombing never took place,
Irrelevant , he conspired to commit a crime , he made incendiary devices with the intention of committing a crime , he went out equipped to commit a crime ,he tried to commit a crime .All of which are convictable offences .
Because it wasn't.
Bollox .Why do you feel the need to lie ?:no:
What, are 'fascist' party has been using that slogan since as long as I can remember, I hope they sued for plagarism !Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
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"he can't occupy any important office, because he is of jewish descent."
(Janmaat speaking about former minister Hirsch Ballin)
I also found several sources that say he was against black players playin in the national soccer team. Unfortunately I couldn't find a literal quote.
The reason why Janmaat quotes are so rare is of course the fact that he was largely ignored.
Oh and Fragony, why is it that both the SP in the 80'ties and Bolkestein made similar criticism, both WAY before Fortuyn entered national politics, and were not prosecuted?
Kralizecc , the difference is some people can make comments about immigration without resorting to hate speech and racial discrimination and some cannot .
That is why some people are prosecuted and some are not .
Thats the idea Frag , you get the views and quotes on him from people who agree with him and people who disagree with him , its called balance:idea2:
Radical lefties and neo nazi's, no thanks.
Irrelevant , he conspired to commit a crime , he made incendiary devices with the intention of committing a crime , he went out equipped to commit a crime ,he tried to commit a crime .All of which are convictable offences .
Would be if Samir A wasn't released, because he only intended to blow stuff up. Exactly the same thing but different treatment. And, there were also a few churches torched back then, no arrests whatsoever, was of course a reaction. One of those churches is where I live, and the police knows who did it. And even if it could be punnished, 3 years is way out of proportion, you get less for beating someone to death.
Bollox .Why do you feel the need to lie ?:no:
I don't.
That is why some feel his name should be cleared, exactly that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kralizec
The SP (at the time) and Bolkestein were against bulk immigration and current integration politics. Janmaat was a xenophobe, an anti semite, a racist. Simple as that.
That said, he didn't deserve the treatment he got.
I don't.
Really , thats strange as you have done it yet again here.....
Would be if Samir A wasn't released, because he only intended to blow stuff up. Exactly the same thing but different treatment.
Radical lefties and neo nazi's, no thanks.
Yet you wish to defend fascists for what they say without even knowing what they say , strange .
That is why some feel his name should be cleared, exactly that.
:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: you don't get it at all do you , just as you cannot grasp that a case with evidence to support the charges will have a diferent legal outcome than a case where the evidence does not support the charges . You think that any statement concerning imigrants is the same as racist comments concerning immigrants :dizzy2: