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I'm going to vote for Sasaki. His posts are very suspicious. He has been going after Kommodus for the whole game now, but with a sudden vote changing last round from Kommodus to GH and from GH to Caius. There's something fishy in his posting/voting methods this game.
Vote: Sasaki
Btw Peasant Phill, Xiahou started using that quote before the kills and it's likely that the latin quotes are a red herring. Its a rather historical quote.
Voting Closed
"Friends, Romans, Countrymen we have chosen today to kill one of our oldest and most revered members, Senator Indubitanter Peto known as Kommodus. As a punishment to such a veteran the senate we hereby decree he should be crucified at the steps of the senate as a reminder to the plebs that justice will be done. Retire now my friends and let us watch the punishment - justice has been done."
As they filed out there was a rumble and the floor began to shake. A rift suddenly appeared in the floor swallowing up Senator desidiosus known as the Destroyer of Hope. The rumbling ceased and the rift resealed itself. A voice boomed out "Foolish Mortals do not tempt the gods through inaction we will smite those who do not contribute!"
Votes
Kommodus = 5 (doc_bean, Craterus ,Sasaki Kojiro, Xiahou, Reenk Rionk)
Craterus = 1 (Jimbob)
Sasaki Kojiro = 1 (AggonyDuck)
abstain = 1 (Don Corleone)
Alive
Sasaki Kojiro
Don Corleone
Csar
doc_bean
Craterus
Reenk Roink
Xiahou
AggonyDuck
JimBob
Dead
Crazed Rabbit
Masy
Kagemusha
Dutch_guy
Peasant Phill
GeneralHankerchief
Executed
Ituralde
Caius Flaminius
Kommodus
Suicide
Proletariat
Wrath of God
Destroyer of Hope
I have decided the next night phase will be extra long - this night phase will end Noon GMT on Wednesday - everyone enjoy your holidays and hopefully we can come back and finish this game afterwards
Interesting. 9 left. Since csar can't vote and can't be killed, if there is one more wrath of god then we only have one lynch left. But I think everyone from the list has been active enough. Praetor should definitely claim next round though.
Ok Kommodus. Did you come up with any results at all from your system? I'm curious.
Oh don't worry, Sasaki has been on my target list since round 3. He'll die by our lynching next round. I've made it clear that Sasaki must die.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I'm finishing up my speech against him, it'll come after Christmas. :yes:
I never notice JimBob around, does he always post this little ?
I'm all for voting for Sasaki next round, he's been acting 'funny', or 'funnier' than usual anyway :inquisitive:
You think I've been acting funny and yet you voted for caius and kommodus without giving a reason?Quote:
Originally Posted by doc_bean
Its a little less than in Csar's game. In my own defense I'm still getting my feet wet in mafia. And this is the third day of winter break for me. I have not really spent much time at home or lucid. Come the next round I'll be getting back up to speed.Quote:
I never notice JimBob around, does he always post this little ?
:laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
EDIT: Merry Christmas everyone!
There's no date for the edit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kommodus
:inquisitive:
It happens sometimes if you edit real fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
@Kommodus: As I suspected, you didn't bother trying to find mafia because you were mafia.
Actually, it was Reenk that inspired me to add the latin phrase to add my own bit of flavor to the Senate setting.Quote:
Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
IIRC, it was often spoken by Cato during the lead up to the 3rd Punic War. He was concerned by Carthage's growing prosperity and was convinced Rome should finish them off. He made a habit of adding that statement at the end of all his speeches to drive the point home. :beam:
As to my next suspect, I'm not convinced of the wisdom in naming names before the rebels strike again... If we start to cast suspicion on an innocent Senator to the point they look likely to be executed the rebels need not consider them as a kill since we're likely to lynch the Senator for them. :shrug:
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
Hey, you said it yourself, you're always going to be suspicious :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I voted for Kommodus because I was tired of the endless debates of his 'morals' in this game, he took away the focus from finding the rebels, though he might have also been a rebel himself. Either way, I saw lynching Kommodus as a win-win situation (obviously one kind of win is a lot better than the other).
the night phase will end at noon tommorow - I hope everyone has had a great holiday and is fresh and ready to finish this game
well i had a 6 hour powercut from 11 till 5 and then i havent been able to get onto the org so todays kills are pushed back to tommorow - sorry all it was an act of a greater power than me... the north hertfordshire power board
Senator Novus Caro, known to his friends and enemies alike as jimbob, was the most learned man in all of Rome. His library was the largest collection of historical accounts known to the world, with the exception of the library at alexandria. He was convinced he could find the Rebels Identities by pouring through old scrolls, in a way he was right. He was reading a very interesting account of a battle against the gauls when a fellow senator sat down in front of him. Novus was a little confused he was sure he had ordered his slaves to turn everyone away. The Senator Spoke, "Good evening my friend Novus i come with an offer. Your Learned nature would be very useful to us when we rule all you have to do is agree to serve me and renounce the senate." "NO" screamed as he Realised who was sitting in front of him "you are a rebel and a murderer i will never serve you!". He drew his dagger and lunged at the Traitor but he had not looked behind him. As he lept up from the table a large Gaulish Slave slipped a leather cord around his neck and within seconds had squeezed all the life out of poor Novus. "Oh well it was worth a shot, you know what to do", the slave nodded and the traitorous senator left. in the Morning the words "Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc" were found written in Novus's blood across the walls...
Senator Craterus was scared out of his mind. He knew the Senate was doomed and was sure he was next. So sure in fact he had decided to flee with his mistress to his villa out of rome. in the Middle of the night they crept out to his litter and started to head out of Rome - they didnt make it far. Craterus Rolled over and felt something sharp bite into his skin. The Mistresses screams awoke the guards who found Craterus Shaking uncontrollable with white froth forming at his mouth. He was dead in minutes...
"well my friends" Csar announced "this is it our numbers our so small now - we have only 2 chances left and so this vote will be the most important yet. Let us not waste this for then all will be lost"
Alive
Sasaki Kojiro
Don Corleone
Csar
doc_bean
Reenk Roink
Xiahou
AggonyDuck
Dead
Crazed Rabbit
Masy
Kagemusha
Dutch_guy
Peasant Phill
GeneralHankerchief
JimBob
Craterus
Executed
Ituralde
Caius Flaminius
Kommodus
Suicide
Proletariat
Wrath of God
Destroyer of Hope
Don't vote Sasaki, Reenk or me, stand by for further information (gotta go...)
tumtumtum
this is a very strange game
Dutch_GuyQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir Moody
Reenk RoinkQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir Moody
SasakiQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir Moody
CraterusQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir Moody
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Originally Posted by Sir Moody
Farewell friends, countrymen, Romans, I know my end is near, I hope what little information I have gathered will help you root out the rebels. I will probably be killed tonight, but before that, I will make sure another suspect is lynched !
Damn, damn, damn. This sucks. If we lynch today, and we guess wrong, we're all but doomed. If we don't lynch today, we're certainly doomed. :no:
Doc_Bean's reveal is about the only thing we have going for us. If he's telling the truth, then the suspects are:
Don Corleone
Xiahou
Aggony_Duck
If not, then Reenk, Doc_Bean and Sasaki are also still suspects. I think we must have gotten one of them by now. The game should end when we nail the next one.
Reenk, you said you had a long laundry list of evidence against Sasaki that was irrefutable. Could you please share it now? If you're right, then there are 2 rebels left... Doc_Bean would have to be in on it, unless there's a twist..
Sasaki, you're always one of the best end-game players. What do you think?
Come on folks!!! We've only got one or two shots left!!! :wall:
I'm pretty sure it's AggonyDuck.
Duck has avoided taking a strong position on anything this game.
On Kommodus:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
That's a lot of words, they all try to make Kommodus seem innocent but they never say he is. Duck is just "not so convinced", "correct me if I'm wrong" etc. If you read that passage while disagreeing with him it won't jump out at you like stronger statements would. It's a technique for avoiding attention.
He also avoids saying he's suspicious of anyone. He wants everyone to think he thinks they are innocent. His first vote was for Craterus:
Note the lengthy qualifier "I don't think you're guilty but you have stay alive a long time". He follows this up in a later post with further qualification:Quote:
I do not think that it is in our advantage to abstain now. Thus I will cast my vote on someone and I've decided to cast my vote on Craterus. He has an uncanny ability to survive far in to the game, without really much posting anything and remaining as a great unknown throughout the whole game.
Vote: Craterus
Quote:
Craterus, I don't have anything against you except the fact that you have a tendency to stay under the radar and survive to the endgame. I've already played a couple of games where you have been a "unknown" at the end game and I'd rather not have such a situation again.
His vote for Reenk Roink is in the same vein.Quote:
EDIT: Forgot my vote. My vote goes for Reenk Roink. Of the two he is the one being a bit more suspicious, although what value that has remains to be seen.
Vote: Reenk Roink
He abstains against Caius:
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Kinda busy at the moment and I don't feel like joining the Caius bandwagon, so:
Vote: Abstain
He makes a strong vote against me but we'll get back to this one, as this is when I started pm'ing him.Quote:
I'm going to vote for Sasaki. His posts are very suspicious. He has been going after Kommodus for the whole game now, but with a sudden vote changing last round from Kommodus to GH and from GH to Caius. There's something fishy in his posting/voting methods this game.
Vote: Sasaki
We have this set of statements:
If the game is a lottery, then you don't have to have a strong position against anyone. Of course, the game is actually nothing like a lottery, but it's convenient for him to say so.Quote:
Anyway currently the game seems like a lottery as does the start of every mafia game. We'll just have to proceed on and eventually we should start to get a proper feel of the game and the different senators.
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Sadly the game at this phase is very much like a lottery. You choose someone at random and hope that they are rebels.
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At the moment this game resembles a lottery at best and well to be blunt, it really comes down to luck at the moment to lynch the rebels, so I suppose I am as good as any other suspect.
Now, his vote against me made me curious so I started pm'ing him.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Essentially it comes down to this: Mafia know who is guilty, so any argument they make against someone is contrived. AggonyDuck's arguments are contrived as can be seen by his waffling about trying to find a convincing one. Mafia also try to avoid attention. The biggest way to get attention is to accuse someone, people respond to accusation. He has tried to avoid this the entire game by abstaining or qualifying his votes.
Lynch him.
Craterus is a woman ;)
doc_bean has nothing to really gain personally by revealing at this stage so I believe him.
AggonyDuck does sound like a good lynch this round. Out of the three remaining innocents I believe that he and Xiahou are our mafiosi, unless of course we already nailed one via the executions (highly unlikely).
Talk about a catch 22
Said the Plebian...
Well to be quite honest I actually tend to talk like that quite a lot at times. Words like might, propably, believe, maybe etc. are propably among my most used words, atleast usually, but I suppose that in this context they could appear strange to some people. As long as I lack some degree of conviction I will most likely sound a bit unconvincing. It usually is one of my bigger problems. Anyway it is a possibility that you might be making a mistake by voting for me or you could possibly be saving the senate. Maybe it might just be so that I am innocent. Or perhaps I am just guilty and being vague just allows me to refrain from lying, which I might have avoided quite nicely. Either way I'm somewhat relieved by your accusations, because it might mean that this rather dreadful existance might come to an end. Hopefully you might understand that there is a definate possibility that I might be guilty to some degree and that I propably can't be arsed to fight for the meager possibility of a continuation in this game. By the way I still believe that the starting rounds are very much like a lottery when it comes to voting, because it is down to luck if you manage to lynch a mafioso in the early rounds. But at the same time it does serve the purpose of laying the groundwork for the game, but still the votes cast by the villagers are mere lottery in the end. What might be somewhat more important is how the votes might incriminate you in the end. Anyway as I might have been saying at some earlier point, there is a good risk that I might be somewhat guilty of the murders of certain senators against whom I propably held no sort of possible grudge and that the murders which might and could have been commited by me and my late accomplice might have been just due to some sort of semi-divine intervention and the voice of some higher power that possibly told me to kill senators, which I most likely did not enjoy, although there is no saying that some of the murders might have been somewhat enjoyable, especially the murder of GH, which might have been commited by me after his rather disturbing gut-vote. Well atleast I got some sort of revenge there, but at the same time I might have believed that there was a likely chance that I was doing badly and that I most likely would be executed at some point due to my possible mistakes, provided that I am a rebel of course. Anyway good riddance somewhat cruel world and hopefully this will all be over by the end of this vote. Damn...
Oh and I'd like to vote: Sasaki! I think his "evidence" is ridiculous and hearsay at best. Where are the murder weapons, finger prints and eye witness accounts? Until he presents them I will believe that he is guilty!:inquisitive:
I don't know. Sasaki makes some very good points, and even in his rebuttal, all Aggony says is "well, I talk that way sometimes". Contradicting yourself directly from one PM to the next, and from what you've posted publicly to what you say privately is very suspicious behavior. I still think Xiahou has a hand in all of this with the Latin phrases, but unless Peasant Phil or somebody else that understands Latin can offer more evidence, I have to vote for the guy that can't seem to speak straight...
Vote: AggonyDuck
P.S. Is there any chance that DocBean is lying? I'm just curious who the other mafia could be. Right now, Xiahou is my best bet, but frankly, the evidence against him isn't very good...
haha, forgot I'm still alive. Vote:AggonyDuck
He's confessed now anyway. I'm convinced Kommodus was the other mafioso and the game will be over once we lynch ducky.