Police abuses

I understand the fact that birds get killed by windturbines but the statement is a clear "sidekick" against the move towards clean energies which is in general a good thing imo

No one updates this thread any more because no one has the time, considering how often cops beat and murder people unnecessarily these days. There are like 3 or 4 new stories a week. And still rarely any accountability.

Try this one on then. The shooting on one Sammy Yatim, 18 year old Syrian immigrant. Shot 9+ times while brandishing a knife on a Toronto street car.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...ath-video.html

The officer, Const. James Forcillo, has been suspended with pay* pending an ivestigation of the shooting by Ontario's SIU, a provincial level civilian agency created to investigate just such a situation. Which only lays charges in 3% of cases. And is staffed mostly with ex cops. And the victims are mostly the mentally ill on a violent break, or someone in a very bad mental place.





*which is standard procedure according to the Police Protective Association (how's that for a union name).

Granted, we need to get the full story on this but:
Sammy was alone on the street car when gunned down;
Yes he had a knife out, but no one was close;

Have to see if this goes the same way as the RCMP incident :(

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Originally Posted by Xiahou

This is mind bogglingly stupid...

DNR Agents conduct armed raid to kill a baby deer

So, a concerned citizen takes a fawn to a no-kill animal shelter after it is abandoned by its mother. Unable to care for a wild animal (due to permits), they make plans to transfer it to a different shelter. Next, the DNR gets a couple anonymous calls about a fawn being seen at a no-kill animal shelter....
What would be an appropriate response? Maybe send an agent over to knock on the door and ask about it? Nah...
Instead, let's conduct aerial surveillance to confirm what the shelter would have readily admitted to. Then send armed agents to round up everyone there, locate the deer... and kill it.

That's a much better use of resources, huh?

The best part is their response to a reporter when asked why they wasted all those resources instead of trying to make a phone call:
Yep. Nursing a fawn back to health is no different than running a crack house. The exact same thing. :yes:

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So now it's official. The WI DNR is staffed with Grade "A" retards.

I don't see how this surprises any one. All breaches of the law, in any form, can result in the use of deadly force in the eyes of our overseers. Plus, the departments need to use up all that money so they can justify their budgets for the following year.

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Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny

Granted, we need to get the full story on this but:
Sammy was alone on the street car when gunned down;
Yes he had a knife out, but no one was close;

Have to see if this goes the same way as the RCMP incident :(

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Some witness's have said he was trying to make people stay on the street car. We'll see. Also there were people around, the cops. He was less than 21 feet from them. Meaning he was an imminent threat to them.

More from FL. Why is it police reports are always different from their victims? I guess people always lie about cops, huh?

http://www.pnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...=2013308070025

some more links
http://reason.com/blog/2013/07/25/co...-murdered-kill

http://reason.com/blog/2013/07/15/ne...fter-cops-beat

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Originally Posted by lars573

Try this one on then. The shooting on one Sammy Yatim, 18 year old Syrian immigrant. Shot 9+ times while brandishing a knife on a Toronto street car.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...ath-video.html

The officer, Const. James Forcillo, has been suspended with pay* pending an ivestigation of the shooting by Ontario's SIU, a provincial level civilian agency created to investigate just such a situation. Which only lays charges in 3% of cases. And is staffed mostly with ex cops. And the victims are mostly the mentally ill on a violent break, or someone in a very bad mental place.





*which is standard procedure according to the Police Protective Association (how's that for a union name).

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So an update on this. The cop who shot the kid has been charged with second degree murder.
Toronto const James Forcillo charged shooting death Sammy

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Originally Posted by lars573

Toronto const James Forcillo charged shooting death Sammy

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"Officers also deployed a Taser after the shooting."

Classic.

Kelly Thomas beating death: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdDuQtKhJv4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdDuQtKhJv4

The cops were acquitted of murder so they walked.

Then there is this:

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/09/ju...ties-arrested/


304 people killed by police last year. 12 already this month. (US)

One incident in the states burns through more bullets than all the bullets used by the entire German police IN AN ENTIRE YEAR.

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Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump

One incident in the states burns through more bullets than all the bullets used by the entire German police IN AN ENTIRE YEAR.

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Oh really? I don't think so.
Oh no, wait...

(It's about the links in the linked post for the tl;dr crowd)

I saw a fuller version of the film.

When it started something was said about we can legally kill you.

They guy picks up his bag and starts toward them, as ordered, and they throw a flash-bang. Then send the dog. The man pulls a knife and turns away. They then shoot him multiple times and turn the dog on him while he is on the ground.

They then handcuff the corps and shoot him some more.

They were all in bulletproof vests and kitted out like SF Operators.

Knives or not, I don’t see any justification for what they did. The man was never a real threat, and why do you have a SWAT team and K-9 for illegal camping?

Unfortunately many were soldiers. Some even SF Operators.

Also their training is much too aggressive.

There is no more to Serve and Protect.

It is a military op with an ROE the military would be grateful for and then some. Soldiers use more restraint than these people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR7MnqYYF2g


edit: But soldiers take prisoners, these people don’t seem to.

The United States is a disgrace to its people. Our police are criminals and the law is used as a cudgel against the law abiding. This is what we've become because of our acceptance of the wolves ruling the sheep.

I am not normally one to consider police trigger happy, but this example leaves me wondering.

Yes the fellow moves quickly to go for his license and the somewhat abrupt movement could have been misconstrued....but there was no warning or call to stop, just shots.

Of the three rounds, only one hits (hip and superficial) but I consider the action a bit abrupt. The officer was fired quickly thereafter and was just recently brought up on charges of aggravated battery.

Word to readers: Avoid any sudden movements in the presence of an officer....some have overly short fuses.

I also wish the cops were better shots.

Oh goodness.

My word to readers: Avoid policemen in the USA like the plague, and if you cannot avoid them, lay down on the ground and beg them to handcuff you. You may be 50% safer once handcuffed but no guarantees.

Also don't enter anyone's property unless you have a death wish, try to avoid government property as well. In an ideal case, avoid any kind of US property and stay in Mexico, it's much safer there.

Thought I would be beaten to this one. Not really 'Police Abuses' but a very unfortunate set of circumstances and how the law handles the matter.

John Crawford III shooting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9FtNOV6Qhk

Basically, the victim picks up a BB gun laying around and starts waving it around whilst he is on the phone for whatever reason.
Someone in the store calls the cops saying that this person is waving a gun around and threatening customers.
Police come in to see him.
Shoot.

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

I am not normally one to consider police trigger happy, but this example leaves me wondering.

Yes the fellow moves quickly to go for his license and the somewhat abrupt movement could have been misconstrued....but there was no warning or call to stop, just shots.

Of the three rounds, only one hits (hip and superficial) but I consider the action a bit abrupt. The officer was fired quickly thereafter and was just recently brought up on charges of aggravated battery.

Word to readers: Avoid any sudden movements in the presence of an officer....some have overly short fuses.

I also wish the cops were better shots.

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"Get your license! Oh crap, he's reaching for something! Shoot!"

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Originally Posted by Tiaexz

Thought I would be beaten to this one. Not really 'Police Abuses' but a very unfortunate set of circumstances and how the law handles the matter.

John Crawford III shooting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9FtNOV6Qhk

Basically, the victim picks up a BB gun laying around and starts waving it around whilst he is on the phone for whatever reason.
Someone in the store calls the cops saying that this person is waving a gun around and threatening customers.
Police come in to see him.
Shoot.

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The 911 caller said that he was pointing the gun at people and that he was loading it in the store.

Crawford was SWATed by the caller. He should be charged with two counts accessory to murder and the cop charged with murder of Crawford and the woman who died of a heart attack as a result of the shooting.

The video was 50 day before becoming public. It clearly shows that Crawford was just shot on sight because of the information provided by the 911 caller and a cop too quick on the trigger.

Yea I thought that guy was getting excited and saw what he wanted to see. His call got that guy killed.

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Originally Posted by Fisherking

The 911 caller said that he was pointing the gun at people and that he was loading it in the store.

Crawford was SWATed by the caller. He should be charged with two counts accessory to murder and the cop charged with murder of Crawford and the woman who died of a heart attack as a result of the shooting.

The video was 50 day before becoming public. It clearly shows that Crawford was just shot on sight because of the information provided by the 911 caller and a cop too quick on the trigger.

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Indeed, they should have safely evacuated as many people as they should in a discreet manner, then call for Crawford to drop the weapon. This would have minimised any harm to the woman who died due to the panic and stress, and allow Crawford the time required to respond to the request.

Walmart is to blame for allowing the air-rifle to be on display like that, unlike everywhere else which has them locked/require-staff assistance, it should have been kept in the box.

Crawford is guilty of not thinking straight whilst being distracted on the phone, and not have been waving the air-rifle around like it was.

The person on the phone should have been more responsible in what they reported to the police, or they should have contacted the stores security instead for them to get the police involved if required.

There were too many circumstances of what 'went wrong' and it resulted in their deaths. It is tragic, hence why I posted it in here.

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Originally Posted by Husar

Oh goodness.

My word to readers: Avoid policemen in the USA like the plague, and if you cannot avoid them, lay down on the ground and beg them to handcuff you. You may be 50% safer once handcuffed but no guarantees.

Also don't enter anyone's property unless you have a death wish, try to avoid government property as well. In an ideal case, avoid any kind of US property and stay in Mexico, it's much safer there.

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Check out the homicide rate in Mexico

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Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg

Check out the homicide rate in Mexico

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Not as bad as Canada, which is the only other option.

I'd much rather live in Canada. Mexico is a cesspool. There is a reason people move TO Canada and out of Mexico as fast as possible.