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    This is mind bogglingly stupid...

    DNR Agents conduct armed raid to kill a baby deer

    So, a concerned citizen takes a fawn to a no-kill animal shelter after it is abandoned by its mother. Unable to care for a wild animal (due to permits), they make plans to transfer it to a different shelter. Next, the DNR gets a couple anonymous calls about a fawn being seen at a no-kill animal shelter....
    What would be an appropriate response? Maybe send an agent over to knock on the door and ask about it? Nah...
    Instead, let's conduct aerial surveillance to confirm what the shelter would have readily admitted to. Then send armed agents to round up everyone there, locate the deer... and kill it.

    That's a much better use of resources, huh?

    The best part is their response to a reporter when asked why they wasted all those resources instead of trying to make a phone call:
    "If a sheriff's department is going in to do a search warrant on a drug bust, they don't call them and ask them to voluntarily surrender their marijuana or whatever drug that they have before they show up," Niemeyer said,
    Yep. Nursing a fawn back to health is no different than running a crack house. The exact same thing.

    Edit:
    While I'm at it, here's a story about a man who saved the life of a bald eagle.... and faces possible jail time for it.
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    Idiots.
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    I like this little blurb at the end of the eagle-article:

    Eagles and other raptors have faced difficult times under the Obama administration, as clean-energy subsidies fuel wind turbines that can decapitate and injure the birds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastDays View Post
    I like this little blurb at the end of the eagle-article:



    I don't want to drag the thread off-topic, but that is factually accurate. In this case, there is nothing partisan about the truth.

    From LiveScience:
    Wind turbines kill more than 573,000 birds each year in the United States, according to The Associated Press, including federally protected species like bald eagles and golden eagles.

    Even bats are falling victim to wind-turbine blades: The Pennsylvania Game Commission estimates that more than 10,000 bats are killed in the state each year by wind turbines, the Wall Street Journal reports.
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    The article about the fawn has no sources listed at least I don't see any.
    The article on the eagle links to Yahoo, but guess what: Page Not Found.
    WISN is a primary source. They're a local news station, they covered the local story. Watch the video in the article for their news cast on it. Other articles would be largely based on their reporting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastDays View Post
    I like this little blurb at the end of the eagle-article:

    You mean the obvious bias of putting it up in the article or the fact that birds do get killed by windturbines?

    For the stupidness. Sounds like really big cases of "letter, not the spirit of the law".

    Edit: Xiahou, it's very possible to be partisan while still telling only truths. It depends of context and what facts you decides to give. And in this case it's an out of topic blurb with the intention to link Obama to it (and therefore the whole article by association).
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    I understand the fact that birds get killed by windturbines but the statement is a clear "sidekick" against the move towards clean energies which is in general a good thing imo
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    No one updates this thread any more because no one has the time, considering how often cops beat and murder people unnecessarily these days. There are like 3 or 4 new stories a week. And still rarely any accountability.
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    Try this one on then. The shooting on one Sammy Yatim, 18 year old Syrian immigrant. Shot 9+ times while brandishing a knife on a Toronto street car.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...ath-video.html

    The officer, Const. James Forcillo, has been suspended with pay* pending an ivestigation of the shooting by Ontario's SIU, a provincial level civilian agency created to investigate just such a situation. Which only lays charges in 3% of cases. And is staffed mostly with ex cops. And the victims are mostly the mentally ill on a violent break, or someone in a very bad mental place.





    *which is standard procedure according to the Police Protective Association (how's that for a union name).
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    Granted, we need to get the full story on this but:
    Sammy was alone on the street car when gunned down;
    Yes he had a knife out, but no one was close;

    Have to see if this goes the same way as the RCMP incident :(
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    Quote Originally Posted by lars573 View Post
    Try this one on then. The shooting on one Sammy Yatim, 18 year old Syrian immigrant. Shot 9+ times while brandishing a knife on a Toronto street car.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...ath-video.html

    The officer, Const. James Forcillo, has been suspended with pay* pending an ivestigation of the shooting by Ontario's SIU, a provincial level civilian agency created to investigate just such a situation. Which only lays charges in 3% of cases. And is staffed mostly with ex cops. And the victims are mostly the mentally ill on a violent break, or someone in a very bad mental place.





    *which is standard procedure according to the Police Protective Association (how's that for a union name).
    So an update on this. The cop who shot the kid has been charged with second degree murder.
    Toronto const James Forcillo charged shooting death Sammy
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    Nothing quite like criminalizing acts of kindness.


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    Yes but it does show the spirit in which this newspage operates and makes me think twice about taking anything they say 1:1.
    Are there other sources for these stories?

    The article about the fawn has no sources listed at least I don't see any.
    The article on the eagle links to Yahoo, but guess what: Page Not Found.

    Yes it's an article from June and could be off Yahoo by now, still, how do I verify this "news"? Don't get me wrong, if these stories are true they do reveal terrible instances but I only have two websites with pretty clear "agendas"* promoting them...

    *also the "agendas" of their visitors...
    I like this little blurb from the comments:

    Today deer, tomorrow at your door to take your guns away. Its coming, just keep voting dem liberals
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastDays View Post
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    Yes it's an article from June and could be off Yahoo by now, still, how do I verify this "news"? Don't get me wrong, if these stories are true they do reveal terrible instances but I only have two websites with pretty clear "agendas"* promoting them...
    Good point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    This is mind bogglingly stupid...

    DNR Agents conduct armed raid to kill a baby deer

    So, a concerned citizen takes a fawn to a no-kill animal shelter after it is abandoned by its mother. Unable to care for a wild animal (due to permits), they make plans to transfer it to a different shelter. Next, the DNR gets a couple anonymous calls about a fawn being seen at a no-kill animal shelter....
    What would be an appropriate response? Maybe send an agent over to knock on the door and ask about it? Nah...
    Instead, let's conduct aerial surveillance to confirm what the shelter would have readily admitted to. Then send armed agents to round up everyone there, locate the deer... and kill it.

    That's a much better use of resources, huh?

    The best part is their response to a reporter when asked why they wasted all those resources instead of trying to make a phone call:
    Yep. Nursing a fawn back to health is no different than running a crack house. The exact same thing.
    So now it's official. The WI DNR is staffed with Grade "A" retards.
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    I don't see how this surprises any one. All breaches of the law, in any form, can result in the use of deadly force in the eyes of our overseers. Plus, the departments need to use up all that money so they can justify their budgets for the following year.
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