04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Empoof

If you think GH is partnered with pzelda and is comfortable riding this wagon then you've never played with wolf GH before

---

he powerwolfs to a fault. just ask him about mion and shion...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Newyn

I can see Logic and merlin as villagers maybe, sell me on the other 2.

---

egix reluctance (trying to find the right word for this) towards Zack about reading them feels baseline villagery

Fable has a really good avatar, like really good.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Re: Choxorn

There's a concept about him on this set of communities (org, cfc, etc) called the Choxorn Line where anybody below his post count is officially labeled a slanker and anyone above him is ok.

Which is a roundabout way of saying yeah he's kind of a lowposter regardless of alignment, which is part of why I'm somewhat gun-shy on going for him today. His actual post content is mildly concerning, but the volume is not. Not yet, anyway.

---

This is the first I've heard of a Choxorn line. The rest sounds about right to me.

vote:pzelda

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by merl1n

i don't think i like ladd putting himself in the middle of a list of people that have been "villagery". i've included myself when talking about people i think are good before but it's always either at the start or the end, being in the middle feels artificial instead of natural

---

I've pointed out that ladd did this very thing!!!!
What say you.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Egix

Hmmm

I actually started on forum so I don't really recall ever experiencing this problem

I guess you'll just overcome it with experience.

---

Never have.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by El Barto

Thanks for the possibly pocketing defence, but what the hell are you doing with the tally?

---

It's not a tally, I'm saying tie Barto with Zelda.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Re: Choxorn

There's a concept about him on this set of communities (org, cfc, etc) called the Choxorn Line where anybody below his post count is officially labeled a slanker and anyone above him is ok.

Which is a roundabout way of saying yeah he's kind of a lowposter regardless of alignment, which is part of why I'm somewhat gun-shy on going for him today. His actual post content is mildly concerning, but the volume is not. Not yet, anyway.

---

I don't know if Choxorn should eponymize this line, since in the past most players clustered on that end of the distribution. :laugh:

tbf egix is my lowest villagery feeling on ladd's wagon. But I think it's potentially all villa on town!ladd and wolves aren't touching it.

Which gives me sad vibes for how today will end.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Got any mafia? Top town? Why?

---

Well, fun fact, there's a lot of people I don't know so I don't know how to read them yet. There's a lot of fluff there, from the people I know… Zack's playing so within his meta that he can be anything. Choxorn, well, as you point out, yes, but he's fluffy.
Cuthillius looks town, you… cannot tell, the rest is up for grabs.

But in my brain-fried state I want to vote Insaner simply because of -as I quoted- whatever he's doing with the tallies. Seriously, Monty posts one vote and in the immediate next one Insaner misrepresents Monty's vote in the tally, has been going on about how wolfy people who vote for me are, and then misrepresents Monty as voting for me.

Can we have a real one?
vote:Insaner

fake edit: freaking xposts there's over a dozen posts I haven't read since #631 already.

Vote Choxorn

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Montmorency

It's not a tally, I'm saying tie Barto with Zelda.

---

Look at my quote! You posted a vote for zelda and then he misquoted you… or did he? I know you in particular are in favour of allowing multiple usernames for voting.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Empoof

egix reluctance (trying to find the right word for this) towards Zack about reading them feels baseline villagery

Fable has a really good avatar, like really good.

---

I'm more of a fan of dya's avatar personally. Fable feels abit too wolfy to me.

Tally:
1 Montmorency (Pzelda,)
3 El Barto (Zack, Cuth, Newyn)
5 PZelda (Insaner, GH, monty, Dya, Ladd)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
4 Ladd (Fable, Logic, Egix, merl1n)
1 Insaner (El Barto)
1 CHoxorn (Empoof)

Not voting: Csargo

LMK if i've made a mistake.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by El Barto

Look at my quote! You posted a vote for zelda and then he misquoted you… or did he? I know you in particular are in favour of allowing multiple usernames for voting.

---

Hm. Usually tally manipulation, if caught, is like instalynch material.

Think it's more likely that he just didn't see Monty's vote when he was making that?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Empoof

If you think GH is partnered with pzelda and is comfortable riding this wagon then you've never played with wolf GH before

---

Perhaps this is correct. I'm wolf reading pzelda more tham I'm wolf reading GH. But I don't like GH's vote on him regardless of pzelda's alignment. He had him as null, then immediately voted him when I told him to sheep me but never commented on my read that I included in that post or any other posts of pzelda. If GH is a wolf, then I kinda feel like his vote looks more suspicious if pzelda is scum then if he's isn't, just because it wouldn't feel right to him to just blindly sheep a vote on a villager without ever talking about the person he is voting. Puts him in a bad spot when that person flips villager. But if pzelda is a wolf, then this vote in fact makes him look good, and they might even not be lynched as there are other competitive wagons and GH has other wolves on his team to save pzelda.

Maybe GH is just a villager, but like. Why avoid discussing pzelda in this case?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Insaner

Perhaps this is correct. I'm wolf reading pzelda more tham I'm wolf reading GH. But I don't like GH's vote on him regardless of pzelda's alignment. He had him as null, then immediately voted him when I told him to sheep me but never commented on my read that I included in that post or any other posts of pzelda. If GH is a wolf, then I kinda feel like his vote looks more suspicious if pzelda is scum then if he's isn't, just because it wouldn't feel right to him to just blindly sheep a vote on a villager without ever talking about the person he is voting. Puts him in a bad spot when that person flips villager. But if pzelda is a wolf, then this vote in fact makes him look good, and they might even not be lynched as there are other competitive wagons and GH has other wolves on his team to save pzelda.

Maybe GH is just a villager, but like. Why avoid discussing pzelda in this case?

---

Did you see later on where I ISO'd pzelda and started scumreading him on my own?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Newyn

I'm more of a fan of dya's avatar personally. Fable feels abit too wolfy to me.

---

thanks! it's a drawing shadon made of my cat (who happens to be sitting next to me)

Vote: Choxorn

I demand a free pass for the rest of the game if Cho flip mafia. Empoof is clearly just bussing his partner.

GH chill on Choxorn for me for science.

i am here but my brain is not

looks like I'll just have to self pres and not do any thinking since the wagon on me is there to stay

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Newyn

Vote: Choxorn

I demand a free pass for the rest of the game if Cho flip mafia. Empoof is clearly just bussing his partner.

---

I'll give you until day 4 and then we'll cite some game you bussed and it'll be thrown out.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Empoof

GH chill on Choxorn for me for science.

---

:stupido:

Vote: Choxorn

dya, what's your read on me?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ladd

i am here but my brain is not

looks like I'll just have to self pres and not do any thinking since the wagon on me is there to stay

---

you're lame.

Grab some tea.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Empoof

I'll give you until day 4 and then we'll cite some game you bussed and it'll be thrown out.

---

I've reformed honest. I havn't bussed since yesterday.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Did you see later on where I ISO'd pzelda and started scumreading him on my own?

---

No, can you quote it?

Tally:
1 Montmorency (Pzelda,)
2 El Barto (Zack, Cuth)
4 PZelda (Insaner, monty, Dya, Ladd)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
4 Ladd (Fable, Logic, Egix, merl1n)
1 Insaner (El Barto)
3 CHoxorn (Empoof, Newyn, GH)

Not voting: Csargo

LMK if i've made a mistake.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ladd

dya, what's your read on me?

---

idk yet. I haven't paid a ton of attention to you yet

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

I've read the pzelda iso for myself and am officially signing off on that wagon beyond "I'll sheep Insaner on it". My main problem can be best summarized by this post:



There is no attempt at following up on this. There is no hint of an attempt at following up on this. There's clarifications, a good bit about talking about MU people and meta and anything besides actual reads and takes on people, but there's very little actual solving spirit, and in my experience people making statements similar to the bolded and going absolutely nowhere with them is a pretty reliable scumtell.

---

Here, Insaner.

Click through to read the quote within.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

I've read the pzelda iso for myself and am officially signing off on that wagon beyond "I'll sheep Insaner on it". My main problem can be best summarized by this post:



There is no attempt at following up on this. There is no hint of an attempt at following up on this. There's clarifications, a good bit about talking about MU people and meta and anything besides actual reads and takes on people, but there's very little actual solving spirit, and in my experience people making statements similar to the bolded and going absolutely nowhere with them is a pretty reliable scumtell.

---

asd

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by dyachei

idk yet. I haven't paid a ton of attention to you yet

---

really?

I am about to be lunched

csargo usually no vote this late into the day?

I'm nervous

thoughts on el barto coming in and voting insaner when a primary vote target and there are other options with more votes?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by merl1n

thoughts on el barto coming in and voting insaner when a primary vote target and there are other options with more votes?

---

NAI, I think.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ladd

really?

I am about to be lunched

---

I should iso you but my motivation has been a little low today

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ladd

really?

I am about to be lunched

---

you pull some AtE stuff while I'm cfding and I'll be upset. I can't read emotion. Buck up, there's like 3 other wagons that are better than yours so regardless of your alignment work with me fucko

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Insaner

I'm nervous

---

i don't believe you

i'd be fine killing chox cause it feels like the orgers consenus wolf read amongst them but if zack/gh are lock in levels of confidence in reading him later itg I'd rather wait

I've only ISO'd 2 of the wagons and there are like 4 of them

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by merl1n

thoughts on el barto coming in and voting insaner when a primary vote target and there are other options with more votes?

---

No idea.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Hm. Usually tally manipulation, if caught, is like instalynch material.

Think it's more likely that he just didn't see Monty's vote when he was making that?

---

Hey what. Do you really think I would try to manipulate vote tally with this much time until EoD? This is bull.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ladd

i'd be fine killing chox cause it feels like the orgers consenus wolf read amongst them but if zack/gh are lock in levels of confidence in reading him later itg I'd rather wait

---

this makes a lot of assumptions

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by merl1n

this makes a lot of assumptions

---

like what?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ladd

i'd be fine killing chox cause it feels like the orgers consenus wolf read amongst them but if zack/gh are lock in levels of confidence in reading him later itg I'd rather wait

---

Zack/GH aren't living passed day 3 if they're town.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ladd

i'd be fine killing chox cause it feels like the orgers consenus wolf read amongst them but if zack/gh are lock in levels of confidence in reading him later itg I'd rather wait

---

Give him a day, I think.

Though if it ends up being you/him then I'm going for him.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

NAI, I think.

---

really? seems kind of suicidal to do if bad, removes your vote from a possible alternative and makes your wagon more relatively appealing

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Hm. Usually tally manipulation, if caught, is like instalynch material.

Think it's more likely that he just didn't see Monty's vote when he was making that?

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by merl1n

thoughts on el barto coming in and voting insaner when a primary vote target and there are other options with more votes?

---

As GH says, instalynch when playing on brainfried mode and not knowing what the real tally was.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by merl1n

i don't believe you

---

You are right. I'm not. Pzelda is going to flip scum. And so would ladd. I'm riding on my pzelda wagon till the end.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Empoof

Zack/GH aren't living passed day 3 if they're town.

---

Already planning the nightkill, eh.

Mafia CFD on Chox?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Empoof

csargo usually no vote this late into the day?

---

Yes.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ladd

like what?

---

that zack/gh are good, that everyone involved is alive? it seems to operate under the assumption that you can trust zack/gh to be correct when they could be bad

Kinda think Choxorn is the wolf wagon we're opting to leave.

Has all the signs.

Has the not great posts.

Probably got my teeth in the right thing.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Already planning the nightkill, eh.

---

I'm the 3p's kill

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by merl1n

that zack/gh are good, that everyone involved is alive? it seems to operate under the assumption that you can trust zack/gh to be correct when they could be bad

---

i think both are villas, esp zack and it seems unlikely they are both dead by d2

so I don't see the problem

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Insaner

You are right. I'm not. Pzelda is going to flip scum. And so would ladd. I'm riding on my pzelda wagon till the end.

---

so why did you say you were nervous? you've been pretty consistent and adamant about your reads, so it reads as a fake statement

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Empoof

Kinda think Choxorn is the wolf wagon we're opting to leave.

Has all the signs.

Has the not great posts.

Probably got my teeth in the right thing.

---

ok

vote:choxorn

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by El Barto

As GH says, instalynch when playing on brainfried mode and not knowing what the real tally was.

---

Yo. I posted what the actual tally was. Monty was just talking about what he wished the tally would have been. He confirmed it. I also messed up the tally a couple times before, but people corrected me and I changed them. Stopped doing them since because the votes are moving all the time.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Empoof

Kinda think Choxorn is the wolf wagon we're opting to leave.

Has all the signs.

Has the not great posts.

Probably got my teeth in the right thing.

---

I'm hopping off in a couple minutes back on pzelda, FYI.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Insaner

You are right. I'm not. Pzelda is going to flip scum. And so would ladd. I'm riding on my pzelda wagon till the end.

---

you really think I am w/w with pzelda?

Choxorn > PZelda > Barto is my order.

I'm not liking barto lynch for today anymore.

PZelda I'm getting weird wagon formation vibes about.

Hum dee dum.

I mean, I would more or less back Zack and GH on their Choxorn meta. So...

reading el barto now and it seems pretty empty?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

I'm hopping off in a couple minutes back on pzelda, FYI.

---

You disappoint me, good sir.

I'm gonna laugh so hard when it's Choxorn and he flips something like "Mafia N1 ONLY vig".

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by merl1n

so why did you say you were nervous? you've been pretty consistent and adamant about your reads, so it reads as a fake statement

---

IF PZELDA FLIPS TOWN I WILL CUT MY VEINS

JOIN ME IN GLOOOORYYYYY :charge:

https://media.tenor.com/images/bbf6a...4068/tenor.gif

Vote: El Barto

Vote: pzelda

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

I'm gonna laugh so hard when it's Choxorn and he flips something like "Mafia N1 ONLY vig".

---

I'll quote this post after his flip and vote you.

Might catch another wolf joining in

reading through choxorn now. idg why people feel the need to stir up another option when we had a bunch of options as is

not sure I can finish this before EOD so stopping now

would rather be able to be around the last few minutes

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ladd

you really think I am w/w with pzelda?

---

I think ur woof. I think pzelda is a woof. So I guess? But it's not an assosiative read.

Where's my "Empoof is the best at Day 1" clout

How do I teach these kids

pzelda > choxorn >>>>>>> el barto >> ladd

in order of preference

Tally:
1 Montmorency (Pzelda,)
3 El Barto (Zack, Cuth, Csargo)
4 PZelda (Insaner, monty, Dya, GH)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
4 Ladd (Fable, Logic, Egix, merl1n)
1 Insaner (El Barto)
3 CHoxorn (Empoof, Newyn, ladd)

LMK if i've made a mistake.

i guess pzelda can be lynched, but i think a lot of people pushing/voting them are suspicious

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

pzelda > choxorn >>>>>>> el barto >> ladd

in order of preference

---

So close

Hopefully my feelings about zelda are wrong then

Vote:pzelda

Kinda purely a "Ladd has almost 100 posts and if he did flip village and died cuz of me when I'm not paying attention and mostly memeing I'd feel shitty about that" vote and zelda's posts aren't great.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Insaner

Yo. I posted what the actual tally was. Monty was just talking about what he wished the tally would have been. He confirmed it. I also messed up the tally a couple times before, but people corrected me and I changed them. Stopped doing them since because the votes are moving all the time.

---

OK…? My vote on you is effectively null. If anybody can convince me to vote for any of the candidates, please do so, otherwise I'm staying put. I really cannot tell whom to vote and I need my remaining functioning neurons to switch gears right after EOD for a RL Thing™ so the less I wear them out the better.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Fable

Vote:pzelda

Kinda purely a "Ladd has almost 100 posts and if he did flip village and died cuz of me when I'm not paying attention and mostly memeing I'd feel shitty about that" vote and zelda's posts aren't great.

---

Looks like the cavalry arrived just in time, team. :charge:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by merl1n

i guess pzelda can be lynched, but i think a lot of people pushing/voting them are suspicious

---

didnt like their seeming incongruity and insaner might actually be right - he's not willing to take stances

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Insaner

IF PZELDA FLIPS TOWN I WILL CUT MY VEINS

JOIN ME IN GLOOOORYYYYY :charge:

https://media.tenor.com/images/bbf6a...4068/tenor.gif

---

livestream?