The Blue and the Grey - an American Civil War IH

First off, allow me to introduce myself - My name is Vladimir Fred-nin, and I am a devout IH player on the TWC forum. I, in particular, like really bloody, war-based IHs, and I have hosted 2 moderately successful ACW games in the past on TWC. I thought I'd spread my infection influence to the .org forum, so here I present you with my civil war IH!

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Introduction:

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The year is 1861. Following the battle of First Manassas/Bull Run, the Northern and Southern half of the United States are at war over issues such as State vs. National legislature, and Slavery. 11 Southern States are fighting what they believe to be the 2nd American Revolution: North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas, Florida, Arkansas, Louisiana, Georgia, Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, and Virginia. They have declared their independence from 23 Union states, and after the first major battle, have proved their mettle in combat. There are 800,000 volunteers in the South against over 2 Million in the North, but they have yet to be organized. That is where the players come in.

Each Player will be a General leading an army from one of the two nations. The limit for army size for the South is 90,000 men and the North's limit is 120,000 men. However this certainly does not mean that players HAVE to choose big armies; For example, Confederate General Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson fought a series of successful battles against the Union and he had only a Division(less than 10,000 men) at his command(see Shenandoah Valley Campaign).

There will be a 'Turn' system; each player will say where he wants his/her army to go in that turn and what the army is to do. I will then use maps of major roads in the area and from that I can decide if they happen to clash with enemy forces.

The battle system is the following; say the Confederates have 10,000 men and the Union has 14,000. Each of the types of soldiers have a different fighting value from 10 to 1(10 being the worst, 1 being the best; I'll explain later). In this case the union has a value of, say, 8 and the confederates have a value of 7. To determine casualties, the number of one nation's troops is divided by the power value of the opposite side. Here is an example:

Confederates: 10,000 men/8 = 1,250 Casualties
Union: 14,000 men/7 = 2,000 Casualties

Then to determine killed and wounded, the number of casualties is divided by 3. This number is the killed soldiers. Then to find wounded, we subtract the number of killed from the remaining casualties. These remaining casualties are the wounded.

Confederates: 1,250/3 = 417 Killed, 833 Wounded
Union: 2,000/3 = 667 Killed, 1,333 Wounded

Recruitment:

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There is also a recruitment chart for numbers of men that can be recruited for each army per turn. Here it is for both nations.

Confederates:
Max of 5 Brigades per turn
1 Brigade = 3,000 Infantry
OR 2,000 Cavalry*
OR 1,500 Artillerymen + 50 Guns**

* Max of 10 Cavalry units per army
** Max of 2 Artillery units per army

2 Brigades = 1 Division
2 Divisions = 1 Corps
? Corps = 1 Army


Union:
Max of 5 Brigades per turn
1 Brigade = 4,000 Infantry
OR 2,500 Cavalry*
OR 1,800 Artillerymen + 60 Guns**

* Max of 10 Cavalry units per army
** Max of 2 Artillery units per army

2 Brigades = 1 Division
2 Divisions = 1 Corps
? Corps = 1 Army

Anyone is free to join and make their own armies, along with naming them whatever they wish.
PLAYERS WILL HAVE TO SPECIFY WHAT NUMBER AND TYPE OF BRIGADES ARE INCLUDED IN THEIR ARMIES.

EXAMPLE:

Army of the Potomac
10 Infantry Brigades
5 Cavalry Brigades
2 Artillery Brigades


Confederate Armies:
Western Department - Leader: Fisherking - 71,044 Men, 100 Guns
Army of Virginia - Leader: Kagemusha - 78,349 Men, 100 Guns
Army of Tennessee - Leader: Centurion1 - 87,633 Men, 95 Guns
Army of Western Virginia - CPU Army(controlled by me) - 68,536 Men, 100 Guns
Men left in recruiting pool: 386,000

Union Armies:
Army of Ohio - Leader: Franconicus - 82,312 Men, 113 Guns
Army of New York - Leader: Warman - 108,845 Men, 120 Guns
Men left in recruiting pool: 1,516,800


Soldiers lost so far:
CSA: 71,661
USA: 308,411
(This includes both Deaths and Captured men)

Although I do not fully understand:

Count me in!

Can I recruit the Army of Rhodes Island?

If you mean Rhode Island, then sure.

Just post how many brigades of what kind you have in your army(like the example in the recruitment section).

Can I raise the Army of Pennsvayina? (Pardon my spelling lol)

Sure, just post how many brigades and what type they are pl0x.

Okay, you need opposing forces to I’ll take the Confederate Western Department, if you don’t mind?

I will raise Confederate army of Virginia. If i understand correctly i can recruit 5 Brigades for it this first turn? If so i will raise 1st and 2nd independent artillery Brigade´s for the army. 1st Infantry division, consisting of 1st and 2nd Virginia infantry Brigades and an independent 1st Cavalry Brigade as core units of my Army of Virginia.

So the Blue Ones can recruit 5 brigades this year, right. Then I recruit two infantry brigades and leave the rest to my allies.

Perhaps I am mistaken but I don’t think we need tell everyone what we are recruiting or where we are moving.

If I read correctly each player can recruit 5 units. Not as a team.

but I guess he will say...

No, No, you guys misunderstood me.

In your starting armies you can take as many troops as you want. During the game, when/if players need more troops, they are allowed to recruit troops into their army. They are allowed to recruit a max of 5 brigades per army, per turn.

Here we go, Fisherking made his army correctly.

2 Artillery Brigades - 3,000 Men
6 Mounted Infantry Brigades(count as Infantry) - 18,000 Men
9 Cavalry Brigades - 18,000 Men
17 Infantry Brigades - 51,000 Men

90,000 Men total

Alrighty then.Army of Virginia:

2 artillery Brigades- 3000 men and 100 guns
8 Cavalry Brigades- 16 000 men
23 infantry Brigades- 69 000 men

88 000 men in total.

Army of Pennsylvania:

2 artillery Brigades- 3000 men and 100 guns
10 Cavalry Brigades- 25,000 men
28 infantry Brigades- 112,000 men


140,000 men and 100 cannon.

Warman, you did 2 things wrong:

1. as a northern army your army's troop limit is 120,000 men.
2. You used the stats for CONFEDERATE brigades, not union ones.

Alright, so the ARMY of RHODE ISLAND consists of
2 Artillery, 8 Cavalry and 15 Infantry Brigades.
In total 83,600 men and 120 guns. Enough to end the rebellion!

That should do nicely. ;)

Do we move troops publicly or PM you?

Fog of war?

is there still room?

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Franconicus

Alright, so the ARMY of RHODE ISLAND consists of
2 Artillery, 8 Cavalry and 15 Infantry Brigades.
In total 83,600 men and 120 guns. Enough to end the rebellion!

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Please come and try Union scum. Bayonet for the violators of our homes and cooking fires i say!

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Vladimir Fred-nin

Warman, you did 2 things wrong:

1. as a northern army your army's troop limit is 120,000 men.
2. You used the stats for CONFEDERATE brigades, not union ones.

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I did #2 wrong?

Quote:

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Union:
Max of 5 Brigades per turn
1 Brigade = 4,000 Infantry
OR 2,500 Cavalry*
OR 1,800 Artillerymen + 60 Guns**

* Max of 10 Cavalry units per army
** Max of 2 Artillery units per army

2 Brigades = 1 Division
2 Divisions = 1 Corps
? Corps = 1 Army

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Army of Pennsylvania:

2 Artillery Brigades 3600 120 guns
4 Cavalry Brigades 10000
26 Infantry Brigades 104000


117,600 men and 100 cannon.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Kagemusha

Please come and try Union scum. Bayonet for the violators of our homes and cooking fires i say!

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I do not talk with rebels! I let my guns talk!!

yall best worry the army of Tennessee is here now.

confederacy.
2 artillery units. 3000 men and 100 guns
6 cavalry units 12000 men
4 mounted infantry units 12000 men.
20 infantry units 60000 men

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Fisherking

Do we move troops publicly or PM you?

Fog of war?

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1. PM me, but not yet. The game has not begun.
2. What?

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

is there still room?

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Yes.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by ELITECubKingWarman88

I did #2 wrong?




Army of Pennsylvania:

2 Artillery Brigades 3600 120 guns
4 Cavalry Brigades 10000
26 Infantry Brigades 104000


117,600 men and 100 cannon.

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You used the stats for confederate artillery, not union artillery. You're fine now though.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

yall best worry the army of Tennessee is here now.

confederacy.
2 artillery units. 3000 men and 100 guns
6 cavalry units 12000 men
4 mounted infantry units 12000 men.
20 infantry units 60000 men

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Welcome to the game, I will add your force shortly :)

Hurrah!

Welcome Tennessee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RmkYHAvJ1o

Go PA!!

The game will probably start some time next week. I'm going to be busy this weekend, I'm going to a concert.

I will use the time to drill my soldiers! :bow:

That sounded sooooo wrong :P

TURN 1 HAS BEGUN, SEND ORDERS IN!

For this turn, all you need do is tell me where you want your forces to go.

will there be a mape for this game? even a rough one?