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Now that we're getting started with the game, I believe we can start with some sub-threads for organizing ourselves. This is going to be a thread were you can talk (off-character) about anything you like, though still relevant to the game itself. Feel free to ask questions too.
Maion
[x] In as first
Wow dude, you are are first in everything I've done so far :tongue: A well-deserved balloon for you: :balloon3:
Maion
blame the economic crisis, I'm bored at work :)
They've blocked all sorts of fancy sites like facebook and youtube here, but the Org is still under the radar! :D
Aha, cool. Here at Uni, poker sites (including porn, of course) are the only blocked ones. Shame about the poker though, I like Facebook poker.
Maion
I'm in too :clown:
well first question: - will there be more threads like this one, e.g. for the synedron?
- and how is it with my position? I read the faq but do my char only recive tasks or can he interact in the synedron and on other channels too?
- 'cause he is currently working on an emergency-plan to safe Makedonia from the other so-called Hellenes :2thumbsup:
:juggle2:
Yes, there will be other threads like this one (Player Description, Synedrion) and yes, you can take part in any Synedrion session. Just make sure your avatar is within Pella when the session begins. For the sole purpose of just getting there for a session, I can utilize the teleportation cheat if you want.
EDIT: I suggest you fire up a Makedonian campaign just to see your character's traits and get a small description of him. I will create a specific thread for that purpose. This goes for everyone :clown:
Maion
@Hotseat_User
Check out any of the ongoing and established PBM's already in the Throne Room to see the layout and future threads likely to be in this PBM.
BtSH Forum
LotR Forum
WotB Forum
well ... another one :laugh4: in my games, I quickly got the impression that spys die like flys so in the game ... do my Char got seven lifes like a cat or should I just take the 100% targets? :sweatdrop:
and for the state of playing the PBM itself. Does every member move his char on its own and then pass the save to the next one regarding a list? Or does everyone move his char and send the save to the admin whose job it is to do exactly the same in the orginal? Bacause this is, what I understand while reading some threads :dizzy2: :oops: and I am shure that it is wrong.
edit: thanks Beanerz, have done that for some hour but my prof will kill me if I don't finish my essay in some time. so I had to stop forgetting my work while searching the .org *sneak-away* :whip:
There will be 1 thread for the save game.
So you say in that thread: "taking the save"
And nobody else will take the save until you upload a new save after your did your moves.
in short:
1) download save from the save thread (make sure nobody has taken the save at this point)
2) make sure you made a post stating you took the save
3) load the save ingame and make your moves
4) save the game after your moves
5) upload the save
6) make a post in the save thread (or edit the one you made in step 2) containing the link where you uploaded the new save
That's it :)
i'm afraid that when your character dies, your dead :)
You can still post as an anonimous synedron, until you can choose a new character.
We won't send you foolishly to spy some huge cities, at least I hope the Basileus won't. Because you will be under the direct commands of the Basileus and only him. Unless, of course, you are willing to shift your loyalty to someone else...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hotseat_User
Maion
nah! he will survive for some reason ^_^ hopefullyQuote:
Originally Posted by mini
well - he can just bring awerage informations about enemy garrision by standing next to the settlement while training himself on 100% targets, in schools/academys in Pella and on studytrips to far places - in the meantime, don't you know?!? *dream*
Mhh'kay, I'm out. Greets and thanks for advice, H_U;
He'll roger that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maion Maroneios
Sure he can and you will be asked to, of course (answering about the deliverance of intelligence).
Maion
haha, Maion, offtopic - we should do some serious business and stop spam. See you guys.
Antigonos will roger whatever Antigonos wants to, so you'd better be careful what you say! He might wake up one day and decide that Antipatros' life is expendable. :evilgrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hotseat_User
Hey dad, what about making me Heir?
You wont let your older brother, who bullied you when you were kids, let inherit everything you worked so hard for? :boxedin:
Woe be the day when Mini becomes a King...
I think you will find his big bro helped him in his early years. He would never have become the wonderous leader he is without the help support and guidance his elder sibling supplied.:laugh4:
More seriously my character will probably die first so you should have a good chance of becoming heir anyway.
I'd be a benevolent king!
WOE!
My wrath is only to be feared by my enemies!
Oh wait, that's you :p
Hey, we're not enemies in this one are we? Tecnically we're not enemies in any of the PBM's. Its your paranoia that sees me as an enemy. You're filling the tick boxes for a good tyrant all the time :beam:
haha
No seriously, we aren't enemies anywhere.
But in btsh we just have different visions most of the times. Besides, someone has to reign you in there or you'll run rampant :p
and in MC my character feels unappreciated by trait, and historically Robert was the odd one out in the family, always in fights with brothers/father.
In this game we haven't had reasons to clash...yet.
Run rampant? With what? When we said TCM would have to be replaced, I didn't expect the space to be filled by the man I adopted into my family...:inquisitive:
I'm not even MC yet. Since I'm not an official Royal Family member like your characters, I'm waiting til I'm invited to the court.
And I'm hoping to make Alexandros far different to Cotta.
I'm not really replacing TCM, he opposed all you stood for for the sake of opposing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanerz
I just oppose anything I feel needs opposing ;)
And dude, you're William Rufus in MC..
You switched chars with culture drizzt fan because he had troubles with M2TW and had to get a new copy.
So he's playing young henry soon to come of age and you're Rufus.
And we still need new people to fill cecilia's husband.
So you're my younger brother, but favorite of the king. You just became count of Mercia and you're heir to the throne
So YEAH, my char bears a grudge to you :p
Oh thats me? Haha, I thought I was still Cecilia's husband.
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EDIT: I seemed to messed up my own spam...
Yeah I already thought somethign was wrong, ergo the multiple comments on the 'suspicious silenceness' of Rufus during the council
hmm, I can roleplay him when I get some free time soon. I'll just start 'Rufus had stayed quiet during the exchange..'
hehe, got another one: when I move my char by move_character to come to the synedron in time, can I use the unused waypoints right away after teleporting him back? you see, I'm kind of confused but also interested as hell.
ohh and TCV, you totally missunderstood me :yes: "He'll roger that." the he was referred to my character - he will do, whatever his king wants him to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking
What's the unused way points?
Only Maion is allowed to use move per console :)
ahh well, the he will send his dancer with some briefing if he's on the way :juggle2: thank you guys, just misread the article where Maion responded to my first questions.
I meant the green to red to blue? to yellow? moving range on the campaignmap. :smile:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanerz
he means move points Bean, the amount of distance a char can travel each turn ;)
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Originally Posted by mini
If you guys can't stop fighting about it I think it's only fair if everyone gets to be the heir. ~:flirt:Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking
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Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking
i didn't know the game engine allowed for multiple heirs at same time?
Lame I know.
I would have a question: how those this "upload save" work? I know you're supposed to make the save availeable to all players but how do you do that in the forums? (never did before...:sweatdrop:)
So we can't take part in Synedrion discussions if we aren't actually in Pella?
Also, for Hotseat User: EBPBM etiquette for taking a save is to only take it if you really need to, and try to post the new save within an hour so other players can get their move in.
While I understand this was meant as a joke, I want to make something clear. There was, historically, a major difference between Hellenistic rulers of the East (Seleukeia, Aigyptos) and Makedonian Basileis. The former were considered above human, even deified sometimes. The Proskynesis (an act of worship) was frequently utilized by subjects of Eastern Hellenistic monarchs. In Makedonia, that concept was alien and frowned upon. The Basileus was considered equal in the eyes of the people, and was also addressed in a much more casual way than you would address, say, the Basileus of the Seleukeis.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking
Anyway, just wanted to point this out since you might confuse your job a bit with your title in WotB.
If your avatar is too far away from Pella, he won't be able to participate, no. Though he can send a representative. So basically if you can come up with a name for your representative in case of your absense from Pella, it's ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iskander II
Oh yes and something else guys: please, mini and Beanerz, keep this stuff between you. We don't have to share this, really.
Maion
Guys, a minor correction on a mistake on my part: The Arche-part of the Kataskopos and Proxenos, should be changed to a "iota" (i) instead of the "e". So it has to be Archikataskopos and Archiproxenos respectively.
Maion
will do, but this is the ooc thread right? Expect some more pointless rambling in this topic in the future :p
This isn't WotB neither BtSH, so it isn't an OOC. But if you mean like one, I suppose so.
Maion
@ Beanerz: Saw you added the Dioiketes part to your character in the PD thread. Actually, you have no legitimate position, so you basically have no title (yet). The upcoming Synedrion is going to set more titles and generally sort several things out.
Maion
No problem. Did I forget to put a question mark? I just didn't know what my rank was, and then I had to go back to work so I havent done anymore to my SOT. So I'm a member of the Royal Family-is that considered my rank for the moment?
You could add that, ok.
Maion
hey ho, I'm probably not at home till tomorrow early evening (CET) so if you want to progress, just move my char to one of the 100% citys in asia minor.
See you , H_U;
How many threads do you guys expect this game to eventually generate?
Counting or discounting polls?
If we have an election every year, then probably quite a few.
p.s. Are you going to join us, Mr. Cow?
TC's just retired from active PBMing
Counting. All threads created for the game, regardless of their purpose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanerz
Regrettably, no. I'm kind of burned out on PBMs at the moment and can't even summon up the will-power to do my write-up for the ETW successor PBM. I'll probably jump back into the games later this year once I'm feeling inspired again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iskander II
I can't answer for Maion, but I'd guess quite a few. It already looks very popular, and there may be voting every 4 turns, so more polls than some other games I imagine. Enough threads for a *cough*, sub forum..
Am I supposed to start the first session now, or are we still waiting for something? I'm a little unsure, by the way, about my opening speech. I suppose I should address the "Pyrrhos outside of Pella" situation and the KH nuisance, but what else is there that I have missed? As it seems important that I don't miss anything important, I want to check here this first time.
I have also understood it that I as the Basileus decide the length of the session on my own. Is that correct?
You missed the feather dancers at court in Corinth. Quite distasteful, it should be halted.
And my promotion.
Nah but seriously. You should, not introduce, but set up each of the characters, so that each knows what he's doing and where he's going. Your the king, so give orders, rather than let people decide what they want to do, and then have them sat around doing nothing because they havent got anything to do.
And I think we should discuss in here what our policies on capturing cities should be, and on the spawning of armies. I would prefer not to let any factions be destroyed utterly, because it stops any future rise of them. We shouldn't expand too quickly, and maybe do more raids on cities than actually capturing them all the time. What's everyone else's view?
The greeks are too treacherous, they must be destroyed!
They should at the very least retain Sparta, and we should (if they don't rebel to them anyway) give them Byzantion, Rhodes (I know), Crete, Thermon to represent the independent Greek states. Then it at least gives us an enemy to fight later rather than just the Eleutheroi, who everyone knows the problems with.
mhh nice idea Bean, but me for myself, I just think we should push them out of hellas and then feed them to further greatness ... well at least in asia minor, at sicilly or some where. but you got the point. - then we would blitz something. but I don't know, how the money thing is handled in PBMs, I just can't get out of debt without blitzing one other faction (Ep/Mak/KH)
Well to the ingame suggestions, my char has recently received some precisious informations. But will there be a own synedron-thread?
edit: found the synedron thread, but for the FD-minimod, is version 1.0 working for EB1.2 aswell?
Hmm. Do you think that could have changed if the Arche Seleukeia had somehow managed to conquer Makedonia and get them to accept the Basileus ton Basileon as there rightful ruler? (just curious)Quote:
Originally Posted by Maion Maroneios
Seconded!:yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by mini
They must fall.
About leaving other factions alive: I don't know... if it works realisticly we should but if they become obsolete I say: put them to rest. Our first priority should be however to conquer all of hellas.
All right, bean, you strap on some of those pots filled with Greek fire, run into Athens and throw yourself at the finest building you can find, and Everyone, you assist him but under AI control. Iskander, you take your fleet and randomly blockade any port of any random faction, wait one turn and then move on and do the same again. The rest of you can just attack each other at will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanerz
How's that?
Seriously though, as Maion said I'm technically an equal to you, so we must discuss things anyway. Otherwise, lets just skip the Synedrion completely and just let me reign supreme... not that I mind, of course, but I don't think that's how Maion designed the game. ~;p
About not destroying factions completely, it depends on the situation IMO, but generally yes, let them live. We're on the same page, in other words.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanerz
Dunno, but probably one more for character stories, one more for the Synedrion that are going to be held soon (that is, the voting procedure) and probably one more thread that will contain all annual reports that have been written in the "Savegames" thread. Oh yes and an "Agora" thread, where the Basileus or any other player can make public statements regardless of where they are stationed. Synedrion sessions, declarations of war and major diplomatic negotiations will be announced there for all to see. Also, speeches can be held for example by players.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
We will start soon, yes. I'll give you a nudge when to start. First, you will announce the Synedrion is going to start soon at the Agora thread I'm going to create, then you officialy declare the beginning (with date) of the session. Remember, this is going to be an emergency session where you won't be present (neither will Krateros, Kalos and Alexandros for that matter) and will have to talk through a representative. I will work as the coordinator of the Synedrion, much like I did in my ceased interactive AAR in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking
There's also another thing you should do, something of vital importance; namely, you have to choose your Basilikos Grammateus formally during the session. He can be any player's character you decide. Either just Synedros, or maybe even a Strategos. Whatever, it doesn't matter. But make your decision and announce it when you start the session. Oh and don't forget you can't be the Basilikos Grammateus yourself, like Chancellor in WotB.
Nope. When Alexandros was beginning to get spoiled by his conquests and titles he gained (as well as the unimaginable sums of gold and silver, of course), he begun asking his Macedonians to worship him as a god (the Proskynesis I mentioned). This, of course, enraged his men who refused to do that. His later subjects though, especially locals I guess, would be used to deifying their monarch.Quote:
Originally Posted by HunGeneral
Maion
Who is better for this than your trusted older brother TCV? :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Maion Maroneios
Thanks for the clarifications, Maion. Duly noted. (I didn't want to be Basilikos Grammateus anyway.)
The highest bidder? ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhoughthon
Send him IC PMs! Makes it more fun!
Just wanted to make sure the Basilikos Grammateus and Chancellor don't get confused with each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking
Maion
Cool, we got a sub-forum very quickly. Cheers TinCow.
Moo to yoo!
Yeah, just got pm'ed about it and I was very (pleasantly) surprised! Get ready for action now, guys :charge:
Maion
Now this sub-forum was a great suprise to start the day.:beam:
Just thought I should mention that I don't have much experience using phalanx based armies in EB, or RTW for that matter. Most of my campaigns have been as the Romani, Pahlava, Getai or Saba, all based on fast moving, fluid tactics. I had one Ptolemy (:shame:) campaign in 0.72 or so but it was a while ago. It may be best for me not to take charge of an army in the dangerous early game, although I'm more than happy to take one if the Synedrion decides.
Good, its good that we have possible generals varied in ability
CONGRATS ON THE YOUR OWN FORUM GENTS!
Thanks man!Quote:
Originally Posted by navarro951
Maion
In reply to mini's post in the Synedrion.
Who are you talking to? :clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
I'm not 100% sure what my role as Basilikos Grammateus entails, do I simply end each turn and post a report and the new save for the next turn or is there more to it? Also the game rules mention personal fortunes, but not how this is calculated, or have I missed something?
Maion Maroneios is now Forum Leader for the TVS subforum and has the ability to sticky and lock threads. He is also responsible for running the TVS game. If you have a problem with the game itself, please contact Maion Maroneios first. I will not be monitoring the daily progress of the game, so it would be best if you could try and resolve any issues with him first, and only bump it up to me if you are not satisfied with the result.
However, this only extends to gameplay itself. This subforum is provided for organizational purposes only. It is still a part of the Throne Room and all (both) Throne Room rules still apply. If there are general problems between players in this forum, please contact me directly. This includes inappropriate language, personal attacks, etc. Competitive games like this can sometimes cause a bit of OOC conflict. Try and remember that it's just a game; keep the conflicts in the IC realm, and be friendly and courteous at all times OOC.
As always, please also feel free to contact me if there's anything I can do to help out. Good luck! :2thumbsup:
Excellent! I believe we won't have any problems with behaviour, given that most of the guys that have subscribed I already know more or less. Of course, you never know... Anyway, I'll try and do my best as a Forum Leader henceforth! :2thumbsup:
@ Beanerz: Regarding Eb vs real life numbers, a more "relistic" feel is x10 for Huge numbers, so x20 for Large. Just my :2cents:
Maion
Takin bets on who will be cautioned first...I bet myself :laugh4:
And oh sorry, didn't realise we were on large..I'll shall pretend I said something different...Blackadder style
Are we supposed to be proposing edicts in the Synedrion yet, or are we just going to argue for a while? :sweatdrop::clown: