Player Chatroom (Off-Character Discussion)

[Iskander 3.1]

So we can't take part in Synedrion discussions if we aren't actually in Pella?

Also, for Hotseat User: EBPBM etiquette for taking a save is to only take it if you really need to, and try to post the new save within an hour so other players can get their move in.

[Maion Maroneios]

Antigonos will roger whatever Antigonos wants to, so you'd better be careful what you say! He might wake up one day and decide that Antipatros' life is expendable.

While I understand this was meant as a joke, I want to make something clear. There was, historically, a major difference between Hellenistic rulers of the East (Seleukeia, Aigyptos) and Makedonian Basileis. The former were considered above human, even deified sometimes. The Proskynesis (an act of worship) was frequently utilized by subjects of Eastern Hellenistic monarchs. In Makedonia, that concept was alien and frowned upon. The Basileus was considered equal in the eyes of the people, and was also addressed in a much more casual way than you would address, say, the Basileus of the Seleukeis.

Anyway, just wanted to point this out since you might confuse your job a bit with your title in WotB.

So we can't take part in Synedrion discussions if we aren't actually in Pella?

If your avatar is too far away from Pella, he won't be able to participate, no. Though he can send a representative. So basically if you can come up with a name for your representative in case of your absense from Pella, it's ok.

Oh yes and something else guys: please, mini and Beanerz, keep this stuff between you. We don't have to share this, really.

Maion

[Maion Maroneios]

Guys, a minor correction on a mistake on my part: The Arche-part of the Kataskopos and Proxenos, should be changed to a "iota" (i) instead of the "e". So it has to be Archikataskopos and Archiproxenos respectively.

Maion

[mini]

will do, but this is the ooc thread right? Expect some more pointless rambling in this topic in the future :p

[Maion Maroneios]

This isn't WotB neither BtSH, so it isn't an OOC. But if you mean like one, I suppose so.

Maion

[Maion Maroneios]

@ Beanerz: Saw you added the Dioiketes part to your character in the PD thread. Actually, you have no legitimate position, so you basically have no title (yet). The upcoming Synedrion is going to set more titles and generally sort several things out.

Maion

[/Bean\]

No problem. Did I forget to put a question mark? I just didn't know what my rank was, and then I had to go back to work so I havent done anymore to my SOT. So I'm a member of the Royal Family-is that considered my rank for the moment?

[HunGeneral]

There was, historically, a major difference between Hellenistic rulers of the East (Seleukeia, Aigyptos) and Makedonian Basileis. The former were considered above human, even deified sometimes. The Proskynesis (an act of worship) was frequently utilized by subjects of Eastern Hellenistic monarchs. In Makedonia, that concept was alien and frowned upon. The Basileus was considered equal in the eyes of the people, and was also addressed in a much more casual way than you would address, say, the Basileus of the Seleukeis.

Hmm. Do you think that could have changed if the Arche Seleukeia had somehow managed to conquer Makedonia and get them to accept the Basileus ton Basileon as there rightful ruler? (just curious)

The greeks are too treacherous, they must be destroyed!

Seconded!

They must fall.

About leaving other factions alive: I don't know... if it works realisticly we should but if they become obsolete I say: put them to rest. Our first priority should be however to conquer all of hellas.

[Maion Maroneios]

How many threads do you guys expect this game to eventually generate?

Dunno, but probably one more for character stories, one more for the Synedrion that are going to be held soon (that is, the voting procedure) and probably one more thread that will contain all annual reports that have been written in the "Savegames" thread. Oh yes and an "Agora" thread, where the Basileus or any other player can make public statements regardless of where they are stationed. Synedrion sessions, declarations of war and major diplomatic negotiations will be announced there for all to see. Also, speeches can be held for example by players.

Am I supposed to start the first session now, or are we still waiting for something? I'm a little unsure, by the way, about my opening speech. I suppose I should address the "Pyrrhos outside of Pella" situation and the KH nuisance, but what else is there that I have missed? As it seems important that I don't miss anything important, I want to check here this first time.

I have also understood it that I as the Basileus decide the length of the session on my own. Is that correct?

We will start soon, yes. I'll give you a nudge when to start. First, you will announce the Synedrion is going to start soon at the Agora thread I'm going to create, then you officialy declare the beginning (with date) of the session. Remember, this is going to be an emergency session where you won't be present (neither will Krateros, Kalos and Alexandros for that matter) and will have to talk through a representative. I will work as the coordinator of the Synedrion, much like I did in my ceased interactive AAR in the past.

There's also another thing you should do, something of vital importance; namely, you have to choose your Basilikos Grammateus formally during the session. He can be any player's character you decide. Either just Synedros, or maybe even a Strategos. Whatever, it doesn't matter. But make your decision and announce it when you start the session. Oh and don't forget you can't be the Basilikos Grammateus yourself, like Chancellor in WotB.

Hmm. Do you think that could have changed if the Arche Seleukeia had somehow managed to conquer Makedonia and get them to accept the Basileus ton Basileon as there rightful ruler? (just curious)

Nope. When Alexandros was beginning to get spoiled by his conquests and titles he gained (as well as the unimaginable sums of gold and silver, of course), he begun asking his Macedonians to worship him as a god (the Proskynesis I mentioned). This, of course, enraged his men who refused to do that. His later subjects though, especially locals I guess, would be used to deifying their monarch.

Maion

[johnhughthom]

There's also another thing you should do, something of vital importance; namely, you have to choose your Basilikos Grammateus formally during the session. He can be any player's character you decide. Either just Synedros, or maybe even a Strategos. Whatever, it doesn't matter. But make your decision and announce it when you start the session. Oh and don't forget you can't be the Basilikos Grammateus yourself, like Chancellor in WotB.

Who is better for this than your trusted older brother TCV?

[The Celtic Viking]

Thanks for the clarifications, Maion. Duly noted. (I didn't want to be Basilikos Grammateus anyway.)

Who is better for this than your trusted older brother TCV?

The highest bidder?

[Iskander 3.1]

Send him IC PMs! Makes it more fun!

[Maion Maroneios]

I didn't want to be Basilikos Grammateus anyway.

Just wanted to make sure the Basilikos Grammateus and Chancellor don't get confused with each other.

Maion

[navarro951]

CONGRATS ON THE YOUR OWN FORUM GENTS!

[Maion Maroneios]

CONGRATS ON THE YOUR OWN FORUM GENTS!

Thanks man!

Maion

[johnhughthom]

In reply to mini's post in the Synedrion.

The messenger leaves the hall.

Who are you talking to?


I'm not 100% sure what my role as Basilikos Grammateus entails, do I simply end each turn and post a report and the new save for the next turn or is there more to it? Also the game rules mention personal fortunes, but not how this is calculated, or have I missed something?

[everyone]

it seems I have no idea what to make Kalos say in the Synedrion. I'll just pretend that he's still there listening, instead of idling in Demetrias.

[Maion Maroneios]

That's your choise. I wouldn't worry too much about what you should say, though.

Maion

[Maion Maroneios]

By the way, I'm going to put up a poll very soon. Plus, keep your eyes peeled, for I will post a list with player's salaries and how to implement them in-game.

Maion

[Hotseat_User]

hah, thx Maion, i've entered this room to ask if my char will recive smth yet. Maybe the synedron have to discuss the 'national finaces' of macedonia ( err, stupid translation in my point of view... in german it would be 'Staatshaushalt' - but I think all of you get me. )
but if you make the poll and the list, this will be needed at a later point.