Wishlist for CoD: MW2

I am compiling a wishlist for what we, as a community want in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2.

I will add your guys' suggestions to the list as we go.

Heres my wishlist:


-Map editing/construction set similar to Hao 3's Forge

-Better thermal/night vision. As it stands now, the night vision can almost never be used to reliably detect a persons heat signature.

-Addition of new guns. I'd love to see the STG-44 (or, in-game in CoD4, MP-44) replaced with an XM8. More variety would be nice too.

-Maps that actually require night-vision. In CoD4, night vision was almost exclusively an impairment in MP. How about a couple maps that you ahve to use night-vision on, due to pitch blackness?

-Better ACOG scopes. I cannot use ACOG scopes right now, because I have a hard time switching between iron-sights, red-dot sight, and ACOG scopes. If they added a cross-hair instead of an arrow in the ACOG scopes, they would be much more useful.

-Multiple weapon attachments at once. There is no reason I cannot have an M203 grenade launcher on the underside of my barrel, and a red-dot sight above it.

-More weapons used by true armies rather than insurgents or crappy armies. I'd like to see less and less RPD's and more and more H&K MG4's. Give us more good-guy weapons!

-More accurate machine guns. I cannot stress this enough. If I cannot hit an enemy with an M60 from perhaps 50 feet away (with a red-dot sight, mind) while going through my ammo, only to have him pop up for a second and shooting me as my gun starts shooting at wild angles, despite my aim staying on their position.

-Custom Server Choice. By this, I mean that, in addition to the standard match-making already present, there would be a list of custom games you can choose from. This way, people can create their own game variants and maps, and allow anyone to play them.

-Picture taking and movie playback. Similar to halo 3's mechanism.

-CoD: WaW's assistance system. In this system, rather than getting 1/5 of the points for aiding somone in killing a person, you get an amount of points proportionate to the damage you do to the enemy. I hate when I have maybe 2 shots left to kill someone, then some douche-bag on my team steals my kill and gets full credit, while i get 2 points.

-CTF Game Mode. Simple enough: Get into the enemy base, steal the flag, bring it back to your base. In CoD, this could be represented by an intel laptop or something similar.

-Vehicles. I know what everyone is about to say: Remember the tanks in CoD: WaW? Yes, I do. Personally, I think it adds an extra challenge, and means that you have to compromise between firepower and whatever you want. However, tanks and any other vehicles could not possibly be over-powered in CoD:MW2; in an urban environment, odds are that the only thing you could do is stay at one end of the map, with your team controlling any buildings around you. This forces the enemy to either try to rocket-snipe you and risk getting blown to pieces immediately, or forces them into the side-buildings to get a good shot. With Humvees and APC's, you could quickly get players around in more open maps. Which brings me to the next wish:

-Open desert/oasis maps for Humvees and light vehicles to drive around. of course, these would have buildings as well as cover in the more open areas, but not too much. Probably best used for Domination and CTF.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Prussian Iron

-Better thermal/night vision. As it stands now, the night vision can almost never be used to reliably detect a persons heat signature.

---

Night vision doesn't detect a person's heat signature, whether thermal vision that can be worn on the head actually exists I do not know, only seen it in Splinter Cell or other semi-sci-fi. :shrug:

im writing an article on all known features for MW2 in the next issue of the gahzette. stay tuned.
by the way, its not COD:MW2, just MW2.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

im writing an article on all known features for MW2 in the next issue of the gahzette. stay tuned.
by the way, its not COD:MW2, just MW2.

---

No it's not.

hm. thanks for the info. now i need to change my article a bit.

More diverse and bigger maps, generally there is a set format for maps where by there's two ways round, crossfire and bog for example, it would be nice to have a bigger tactical element.

More diverse weapons, also no m16. I don't appreciate a gun which can kill me in one shot, 2 shots maximum.

There the main ones to be honest, also some new perks would be nice. I want it to feel like a new game, not just a cod 4 re-skin..

no the m16 will be in its been confirmed.

a price that means i won't automatically reject the game on principle until its lying at the bottom of the bargain bin.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

no the m16 will be in its been confirmed.

---

:wall:

My blood boils every time I die at the hands of an m16 user. No gun should ever bee one shot kill..

if you are so annoyed about the m16 use it you can use it as well. personally use the m4 for bigger maps and the mp5 for smaller ones. beats those m16 n00bs any day of the week. they may also be using the stopping power perk.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

if you are so annoyed about the m16 use it you can use it as well. personally use the m4 for bigger maps and the mp5 for smaller ones. beats those m16 n00bs any day of the week. they may also be using the stopping power perk.

---

Yup, standard set up. M16, stopping power and steady aim. I see people in 10th prestige still using it and I can't understand why, I would get really bored of using the same gun over and over.

I personally like diversity, at the minute im currently using the MP40 as my assault rifle, mp5 and p90 for silenced classes, and a scorpion with an acog scope for general purpose. You wouldn't think the last one would be any good but surprisingly it is..

wait wait wait....MP-40 as an assault rifle, but MP5 as well????

i think you mean the MP-44 (STG-44) in CoD4



also:I used to use the M16(beastly with a red-dot sight), but once I got the G-36C and M14, I kinda said screw it.

BTW: adding to the list: 1-Shot kill sniper rifles at higher levels. I swear to god, if i shoot someone in the chest with a .50 Caliber sniper rifle and do not kill him 1 more time, i will go insane.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Prussian Iron

BTW: adding to the list: 1-Shot kill sniper rifles at higher levels. I swear to god, if i shoot someone in the chest with a .50 Caliber sniper rifle and do not kill him 1 more time, i will go insane.

---

dude, what are you talking about? i get 1 shot kills with the .50 cal all the time. only if the target has juggernaut does it take more than one hit.

do you have stopping power? i traded out stopping power for overkill, so i can have an M14 instead of a pistol.

nope. i have uav jammer and deeper penetration.

hmmm......... i know deep penetration doest effect damage, only if it goes through walls, but could it possibly add just that tiny little bit of damage left? with the higher muzzle velocity and sharper bullets?

if not, then it makes nos ense that we would have different damage for the same gun.

where do you usually hit? i almost always hit the upper torso/head.

with my barret, ive hit the mid-upper torso.

also ive noticed that if you hit the heart or lungs, its instant kill, as opposed to a lower hit which just hurts like hell.

interesting.

now, back to topic. i want a better filtering system for the servers, like an option to choose a min and max ping level. as of now the filtering system is pretty shallow.

probably my biggest annoyance ever:

a way to mute people in the pre-game menu. it is so annoying when i just want to play, and a couple guys are blasting crappy music and just about yelling through their damned microphones, forcing me to turn off the volume until i can mute them in-game.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Prussian Iron

probably my biggest annoyance ever:

a way to mute people in the pre-game menu. it is so annoying when i just want to play, and a couple guys are blasting crappy music and just about yelling through their damned microphones, forcing me to turn off the volume until i can mute them in-game.

---

pc version ftw: theres no in-game menu for the idiots to chat on. :beam:

Has anyone seen the new multiplayer trailer? Customizable kill streaks, grenades that stick to your opponents, and some kind of portable homing missile you can use against airstrikers. Sounds good, but the settings (at least the ones I've seen) are too open and I'm worried that the game is becoming too Battlefield-ish.

customizable kill streaks? mixed blessing i think. perhaps they should make it a default kill streak rewards until a mid-level like 30, then make it so that you can only customize kill streaks after 10 kills. then they really deserved it.

heli-dogs anyone?

sticky grenades? i thought those were just for tanks. of course, we all know that the grip magically goes and clips onto their shirt.

portable homing missile? i think if it was like a weapon that had only 10 shots, replaced perk 1, and was only unlockable at the highest level, maybe it could work. then again, the flamethrower in CoD5 isnt too terribly overpowered; type-100 will beat it with double tap.

i beleive the sticky grenade will be like the plasma grenade in Halo3. probably will only work if the enemy stays perfectly still or something. i trust that IW wont make it too overpowered. and theyll probably make it some sort of perk.

the difference is:
plasma grenade and halo 3=sci-fi obviously fake never going to happen no matter what

CoD: Modern Warfare 2=(somewhat) realistic shooter based with real, existing weapons and equipment.

modern grenade that sticks to personnell= lame+unrealistic.

then again, ive never been able to stick someone with a sticky grenade in CoD5, so maybe it will be an extremely rare thing?

what would be great is if you could hold 'throw grenade' button and click the melee button at the same time when behind an enemy, and it would then be clipped onto the back of their necks. detached heads anyone?

well first of all, Semtex is a sticky plastic explosive, so a nade covered in semtex isnt such a far off idea.

1 problem:

if you threw it, wouldnt it stick to your hand first? unless you covered everything but 1 part, and you carried it around in your hand to make sure you have the right part.

I want the insane gore of World at War https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIqZ1TFRPMk

hellz yeah! I can't imagine theres anything quite like watching a helicopters M230 Chaingun ripping and tearing to pieces some random guy, as you watch on with both horror and glee.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Prussian Iron

what would be great is if you could hold 'throw grenade' button and click the melee button at the same time when behind an enemy, and it would then be clipped onto the back of their necks. detached heads anyone?

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Fragony

I want the insane gore of World at War https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIqZ1TFRPMk

---

No. Just no. :help:

This isn't Gears of War, there's no need to be so over the top in the gore level especially since the engine is much more photo-realistic. High gore levels in games like that just make me entirely uncomfortable.

Don't have a problem with it it's just a game. I like the gore in WAW, it even serves a purpose, WAW has this whole war is hell going for it. When you shoot someone with a heavy weapon I want feedback, and boy does WAW give it, makes the action so much more satisfying if you can utterly destroy them.

too much gore makes it a bit silly.

When you empty a LMG on someone and he still has all limbs attached is kinda silly. In WoW you can really mess them up good, I like. Usually you don't notice how gory it is but once in a while you get a truly horrific kill, or the absolutely sickening sound of your buddy being shot in the head, deary. It's hardcore bloody fun. Can't get enough of the bayonet hehe *SWOB*

I don't mind the gore, makes it all the more intense. Will there be zombie mode in this? I've had a lot of fun with that.

I think the majority of players will want gore, especially the ones who came from WaW. i mean, if i shoot a guy with a .50 caliber bullet in the face, his face should not still be there.

i do hope they dont go Gears of War gore on us, but not too much less than it. maybe i'm just sick and twisted like that :P

I'm betting they won't bring back zombie mode, but they would be able to bring over everyone from WaW if they did. I think just about everybody in the world would love to noscope zombies with a barret repeatedly.

no zombies. its been confirmed.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

no zombies. its been confirmed.

---

A shame, that was one of the few things that I truly enjoyed in WaW.

well IW wanted to stay away from WaW. but there are rumors that instead of zombies, it will be aliens.

aliens? not sure how to react to that...wouldn't they have guns after breaking out of Area 51? lol :P

makes sense though: has anybody ever seen a movie where there has ever been al qaeda zombies? no? it's because they can't become zombies duh! everyone knows that wearing a red headband, unfashionable sunglasses, and living in a cave makes you immune to zombies.

new vid!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4PMRFkx07g

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

new vid!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4PMRFkx07g

---

Absolutely amazing.

Suddenly all the hatred I have for WaW is washed away. Bring on MW2! :2thumbsup:

edit: The guy clearing the way with the riot shield? Yeah. Awesome.

OMG THAT IS AWESOME!!! I love that they included a bunch of new guns, not the same old "Ok, take a bunch of american guns, a bunch of russian guns, some British guns, and then throw in a couple miscellaneous guns from other countries"
whereas now its more like:
"Ok, find every gun you can in moden militarys and put it in."

Plus, that supply drop would be pretty nice, especially fi you didnt have bandolier.

new vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8toHfZm6jNE&feature=sub

D.C is in flames. :help:

Apparently MW2 is all done, as the devs were spotted playing their game on Live a few nights ago.

November is shaping up to be an absolute treat. Assassin's Creed 2, MW2, and Dragon's Age: Origins all within a few weeks of one another. How am I ever gonna find the time for them all? :sweatdrop:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Monk

Absolutely amazing.

Suddenly all the hatred I have for WaW is washed away. Bring on MW2! :2thumbsup:

edit: The guy clearing the way with the riot shield? Yeah. Awesome.

---

hrmph. Why the hate, WaW does nothing wrong it is just extremely violent, the campaign is tight like drum and the multiplayer improves upon modern warfare. They did afine job taking it to pacific. The pacific WW2 has always come acros as more savage and nightmarish, maybe that is just me but WaW delivers in spades, such hostile and alien place

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Fragony

hrmph. Why the hate, WaW does nothing wrong it is just extremely violent, the campaign is tight like drum and the multiplayer improves upon modern warfare. They did afine job taking it to pacific. The pacific WW2 has always come acros as more savage and nightmarish, maybe that is just me but WaW delivers in spades

---

The AI is a true and utter joke in WaW's campaign. You don't notice it in the soviet campaign because the Germans aren't scripted to banzai charge you at the drop of a hat. The AI doesn't really know how to handle it and will do it at odd times (with odd targets in mind). It makes the pacific campaign really easy, the only thing holding you back is the grenade spam on the higher difficulties.

The pacing is all over the place like it was in CoD4, but there's no real characterization for me to grasp onto. In CoD4 there was a general over arching storyline that made both the SaS and the Marine's Force Recon missions feel almost like they were apart of a greater whole. In WaW we're going back to how things were in previous CoD games in that the narrative of the game is "there's a war on" and that's it. The two campaigns aren't related in any way other than being set in ww2, and what happens in the pacific isn't effecting what's happening on the Eastern front. I found it to be two steps backward after Infinity Ward's step forward.

Multiplayer, though, was a huge improvement over CoD4's, grenade spamming was much less common and the "War" mode was particularly fun. But the multiplayer replayability was hurt (in my eyes) by the time period. I loved all the weapons and mods you had in WaW's predecessor and seeing nearly half the arsenal reduced to bolt action didn't make me enjoy the combat too much.

By the end of WaW i hated it, to the point I later sold the game. Now my "anger" has cooled, but I still wouldn't play it if given the chance.

all fair criticism, did'nt really notice but yeah. I never played part 1 and 2, maybe I let them get away with more. On points mentioned modern warfare wins hands down.

EDIT: nvm, i read the date wrong. still, a month is so close!!!

i cant wait to find out the system requirements.

ur gettin it for PC?

no doubt im getting it on the Xbox, or maybe the PS3. i can only play the xbox once a week....so ps3 might be better bet.

oh no!!!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

oh no!!!

---

Much anger in that one over a two week delay. The news is disappointing to be sure, but let's not burn the world down just yet.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Monk

Much anger in that one over a two week delay. The news is disappointing to be sure, but let's not burn the world down just yet.

---

well considering i am forced to get it for PC...
it wont matter for me anyways. i wont get my laptop back until at least january.

oh....i have a great idea of how you will pay me back for the Metallica videos:

I'm going to continually send you plot details of every mission as i progress through them!! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

I'd be in warfare heaven if they'd give me a freaking fire selector this time...

while i agree that a fire selector would be nice, its not really that hard to use assault rifles on burst or semi-auto by just controlling your trigger.though having a realistic (non burst-only) M-16 would be awesome!

Deep breath!

Straight from FourZeroTwo, there's no delay for PC MW2. Seems like the internets lied to us. What a shock! :laugh4:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Monk

Deep breath!

Straight from FourZeroTwo, there's no delay for PC MW2. Seems like the internets lied to us. What a shock! :laugh4:

---

*faints*

hey, check this poster:

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images...9830_front.jpg

in the background is s destroyed capital building. i hope its not something that obvious. maybe an alternate ending depending on your actions?

i doubt it. the COD series have always been linear.

well thats true.

however in cod 5 you had the choise to either save roebuck or the other guy in the last american mission (haven't played campaign in ages. but i got the achievement!!) so hopefully. i just think taking it to washington dc would be a little too obvious. so is in the ME, but you dont just burn down DC.it would make more sense to go somewhere in maybe SE Asia or Pakistani/Indian jungles.

COD: MW2 minimum system requirements for PC:
Hard Drive Space : 16 GB free hard drive space
Operating System : Windows® Vista/XP
Processor : AMD 64 3200+ or Intel Pentium® 4 3.0GHz or better
RAM : 512 MB RAM (XP) / 1 GB RAM (VISTA)
Video Card : Shader 3.0 or better 256 MB nVidia® GeForce™ 6600GT / ATI® Radeon™ 1600XT or better

Not sure if this video is genuine but it was uploaded on game trailers. Also quality is poor.

WARNING, fairly graphic.

http://www.gametrailers.com/user-mov...footage/333509

I'm not actually sure if I agree with such a level being in the game if this is in fact genuine. I mean, I'm normally the sort of person who laughs at those people who claim video games are a bad influence but if this is genuine this level seems pretty chilling to me..

I'm just......speachless. I can't believe that they would do that. I hope it's either:

A. Not actually in the game
B. At least not in the American version

Look, me and my dad think playing Gears 2 and going on a chainsaw rampage all over the enemy is awesome and hilarious, but this....geeze it makes me wanna puke almost.

And why do they make you be a terrorist who has to do it? I'd be fine if I had to be like some Special Forces people or something that followed them, and saw the dead people but not actually killing anybody but the terrorists.

If it is in when I get the game, I'll do either one of two things:

1. Just run through the level, not looking, and not killing anyone until the fight with the police comes.

2. If killing everyone in the airport is a required objective (which I think I saw pop up in the top left corner, but hope not) than I'm just skipping the campaign. Infinity Ward will not make me kill all those innocent computers. I would rather pay someone to do it for me, than to have to do it myself.

wow. just saw the footage.

well thankfully we wont have to do it:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/104/1040095p1.html

http://www.destructoid.com/official-...k-153453.phtml

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Activision

The leaked footage was taken from a copy of game that was obtained illegally and is not representative of the overall gameplay experience in Modern Warfare 2.

Infinity Ward’s Modern Warfare 2 features a deep and gripping storyline in which players face off against a terrorist threat dedicated to bringing the world to the brink of collapse. The game includes a plot involving a mission carried out by a Russian villain who wants to trigger a global war. In order to defeat him, the player infiltrates his inner circle. The scene is designed to evoke the atrocities of terrorism.

At the beginning of the game, players encounter a mandatory “checkpoint” in which they are warned that an upcoming segment may contain disturbing elements and they can choose not to engage in the gameplay that involves this scene. Consistent with its content, the game has been given an “M” for Mature by the Entertainment Software Ratings Board. The rating is prominently displayed on the front and back of the packaging, as well as in all advertising.

---

So that likely means we have to still hear it, we just dont need to do anything.

Personally, I'm going to walk backwards looking at the ceiling until the police part comes up.

No more disturbing than WaW forcing you to gun down Germans as they tried to flee or watching as your comrades slaughter PoWs and encourage you to kill men trying to surrender.

I'm just not sure what purpose such a segment would serve. Maybe they want us to get into it and really feel some hate for our adversary?

Either way it just doesn't make sense. I mean games like GTA for example, we've all gone on a random rampage but the way it's done it doesn't feel realistic, you can detach yourself from it. I just think game play like this is a step to far. There has been far to many cases in recent years of people going into schools ect and doing this kind of thing.

Quite frankly I think the only way the scene could be more controversial is if they made you hijack a plane..

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Monk

No more disturbing than WaW forcing you to gun down Germans as they tried to flee or watching as your comrades slaughter PoWs and encourage you to kill men trying to surrender.

---

much more disturbing; here is what happens in that scene in WaW:

1. WaW takes place 65 years ago.
2. We can detach ourselves from that, because they are "the bad guys"
3. You have to admit that the Sergeant (Reznov?) makes it a little funny
4. Those scenes aren't on such a large scale. there are maybe 2-3 scenes of that? and those scenes are very short, and 3 people and at largest maybe 10 for the scene in the fields where you get molotovs.


Here is what happens in that scene from MW2:

1. It takes place in a post-9/11 world where everyday innocents are killed for no reason by terrorists.
2. You and 4 other terrorists cold-heartedly slaughter hundreds of innocent people in an airport
3. Crawling, mangled people trying to escape are shot
4. The screaming is extremely unnerving.


If anyone remembers a while back I had that thread "Is there something wrong with me?" because I had this horrible gory dream. That is what I imagine this scene will be like, only the people never did anything bad and you kill hundreds.


Like I said; I'm going to turn the sound off, and walk backwards looking at the ceiling until the firefight occurs.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Prussian Iron

much more disturbing; here is what happens in that scene in WaW:

1. WaW takes place 65 years ago.
2. We can detach ourselves from that, because they are "the bad guys"
3. You have to admit that the Sergeant (Reznov?) makes it a little funny
4. Those scenes aren't on such a large scale. there are maybe 2-3 scenes of that? and those scenes are very short, and 3 people and at largest maybe 10 for the scene in the fields where you get molotovs.

---

No, I do not.

The violence portrayed in WaW was very intense, enough so that even though it took place over six decades ago it had a powerful message: War is ugly. There are also more than three scenes, but listing off the ones I remember wouldn't prove a point. The original point is that WaW encouraging war-crimes is just the same as this imho.

Quote:

---

1. It takes place in a post-9/11 world where everyday innocents are killed for no reason by terrorists.
2. You and 4 other terrorists cold-heartedly slaughter hundreds of innocent people in an airport
3. Crawling, mangled people trying to escape are shot
4. The screaming is extremely unnerving.

---

I'm really failing to see the difference. Was it any less bad when the soviet commander demanded you to kill surrendering germans near the subway, but if you refused he ordered them burned alive with molotovs and mocked you?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

"You should have been merciful and saved those animals some misery."

The Call of Duty series already took steps down this road in WaW. The only difference this time around is that Infinity Ward seems to understand not everyone wants to interact with this sort of scene, instead of shoe-horning you into the situation and further punishing you if you don't play along like Treyarch did. :shrug:

well, if it is the same than why is there a big outrage with this and not with WaW?

and you were never forced to kill POW's or surrendering germans in WaW either. you could, but you could also look away for 5 seconds.

you don't seem to get that there is now an entire level devoted to killing civilians.

maybe you just think different than everyone else, but nobody else seemed to care much about WaW's few scenes where POWs or surrendering enemies were killed by you.


this isnt a debate. im not arguing this any further.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Prussian Iron

well, if it is the same than why is there a big outrage with this and not with WaW?

---

I dunno, no one was paying attention? :laugh4:

Quote:

---

maybe you just think different than everyone else, but nobody else seemed to care much about WaW's few scenes where POWs or surrendering enemies were killed by you.

this isnt a debate. im nto arguing this any further.

---

I just don't feel the two things are that different. :shrug: While I very much dislike the scene, I don't understand why there's so much outrage now instead of then.

Call of Duty: Brütal Warfare?

Really seems a bit useless, playing the bad guy, but whatever. :shrug:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Husar

Call of Duty: Brütal Warfare?

Really seems a bit useless, playing the bad guy, but whatever. :shrug:

---

apparently its part of the story.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

apparently you were, in the mission, a CIA or whatever agent who was with the bad guys, trying to get close to marakovs ring of advisors or something along those lines. or so i read somewhere.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

apparently its part of the story.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

apparently you were, in the mission, a CIA or whatever agent who was with the bad guys, trying to get close to marakovs ring of advisors or something along those lines. or so i read somewhere.

---

I read that too, but you die at the end. apparently they knew.

Still, I wouldn't kill people like that just to infiltrate his inner ring. I would instead have called the police as soon as possible, and wear some sort of defining clothing. at least then they would be caught as soon as they got off the elevator; maybe I'd have one other guy not get caught too so it didnt look suspicious. we would run and they wouldn't get us. then I'd continue infiltrating.

apparently the CIA isn't as smart as a 14 year old boy.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

apparently its part of the story.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

apparently you were, in the mission, a CIA or whatever agent who was with the bad guys, trying to get close to marakovs ring of advisors or something along those lines. or so i read somewhere.

---

Makes sense.

And then they kill the CIA agent to make it look like an American plot and as a result support gathers for the ultra nationalist movement.

Guess it does kind of fit in..

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Prussian Iron

I read that too, but you die at the end. apparently they knew.

Still, I wouldn't kill people like that just to infiltrate his inner ring. I would instead have called the police as soon as possible, and wear some sort of defining clothing. at least then they would be caught as soon as they got off the elevator; maybe I'd have one other guy not get caught too so it didnt look suspicious. we would run and they wouldn't get us. then I'd continue infiltrating.

apparently the CIA isn't as smart as a 14 year old boy.

---

wow you clearly have no idea about espionage. when you are undercover and trying to get infiltrate an organization, you do NOTHING to make them suspicious. you act EXACTLY as they do, even if that means some un
apparently IW and CIA are much smarter than a 14 year old. :wink:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

wow you clearly have no idea about espionage. when you are undercover and trying to get infiltrate an organization, you do NOTHING to make them suspicious. you act EXACTLY as they do, even if that means some un
apparently IW and CIA are much smarter than a 14 year old. :wink:

---

:sweatdrop::sweatdrop::sweatdrop:

It's an FPS. You kill people all the time. I don't care if you think it's "justified" to kill Germans, Russians, or lizardmen from the Earth's core. You're killing them.

I pains me to hear someone say that. It absolutely destroys me to know that someone can happily mow down thousands, but cry crocodile tears when something like this is thrown their way. Maybe it puts things into perspective. No matter how evil someone can be (And sometimes that is even arguable) a life is a life.

IW had another controversy when people learned you would get nuked, I believe. I thought it was a chilling truth of our day and age.

Here's my wishlist:

Dedicated Servers.

/thread.